Well, take it easy buddy. You’re educated and don’t seem that bright to me. I think he’s preying on emotional headcases . YMMV.
Trump on Rogan
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Why don’t you explain? Obviously you don’t know. An influx of more people in communities demand more supplies and as that supply shrinks prices go up. His tariffs philosophy has been used to threaten high prices on incoming goods in order to encourage better negotiations with other countries. When a better deal is negotiated, it helps both countries. It’s not one-sided
To level set, I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 or 2020, am still not a fan, but did vote for him this time.
What took me a long time to learn is he is a New York Real Estate guy who is always negotiating and that you simply cannot take him literally. That is different than saying he is lying. (but yes, he does lie from time to time but don't they all. Kamala's big one last night was that Trump can ban abortions nationwide without congress. But I digress)
He said crazy stuff about leaving NATO if Europe didn't carry its weight and not defending Europe against Russia. People went nuts, said he lost his mind, said he was in Putin's pocket. But what happened? Europe started spending more on defense and we stayed in NATO.
I suspect tariffs the same thing. It's not that he doesn't believe in them to some extent, but he is playing chess by making threats, and he will likely get most of what he wants without tariffs.
This is hilarious. Harris can't even explain her own policies....And you demand answers from Trump supporters?
Just days ago, Harris said she was going to make things cheaper, by doing what we need to do, to bring costs down. And you are questioning Trump voters??
Maybe Pharmdawg is the reason all of these Walgreens and CVSs are closing. 🤪
Ok, Pharm. I’ll play..
But, here are the rules.. no conjecturing on what MIGHT happen. We have to discuss real data. And it needs to be non-partisan. You up for it?
Real facts:
In 2011, Barack Obama put tariffs on Chinese Solar modules, ranging from 15% -250%
In 201, Obama put additional and new tariffs on Chinese and Taiwanese solar modules
In 2017, Donald Trump put tariffs of 25% on solar modules from effectively the rest of the world.
In 2022, Joe Biden renewed the Trump tariffs.
Real fact:
Over that duration, the cost of imported solar panels FELL approximately 85%
“A significant portion of the cost declines over the past decade can be attributed to an 85% cost decline in module price. A decade ago, the module alone cost around $2.50 per watt, and now an entire utility-scale PV system costs around $1 per watt,” said NREL Senior Financial Analyst David Feldman. “
The data irrefutably shows that tariffs did not result in an increase in price of the tariffed product in the U.S. Rather, it forced the Chinese government into a more robust, and unsustainable, pattern of increased subsidization of a targeted key “China 2025” industry.
In fact, one of the largest drivers of the price decline was China’s illegal (by WTO rules) subsidation of their industry that led to approximately 4x over-capacity relative to global demand.
The strategic consequence: after a decade of growing Chinese advantage, reflected as a percentage of domestic market share, over the last 36 months, US manufacturing has INCREASED, as a percentage of domestic market share, as China has continued to fall.
I don’t think anyone has said that tariffs are a quick fix, but they are 1 tool that can effectively be used to shift the cost burden back to China in areas in which the Chinese believe are strategic to their economic interests. The bet is that the Chinese economy is more dependent on the U.S. buying its goods cheaply , than the U.S. economy is on buying Chinese goods cheaply.
We have spent the better part of 40 years offshoring our manufacturing. To expect the hangover from a 40-year binge to pass rapidly is unrealistic. This is detox, not a morning after from a wild night.
You figured it out. Same thing with dealing with these crazy foreign leaders like Kim, Putin and Lee. He manipulates them through the media
That's it on the nose.
His detractors take him literally, but not seriously.
His supporters take him seriously, but not literally.
Once one makes the paradigm shift from taking everything only at face value and start looking at the goals, the perception of the man changes. I may find some comments cringy at face value, but can't argue with the intended result.
Well, I agree, that interview is amazing. There were so many comments from Trump of such hair-raising stupidity that it’s amazing the guy has an even-money shot at being POTUS again.
There is a lot to chose from, but the discussion of water in California was a real highlight. Just shear idiocy on display. It’s a great example of what happens when you combine deep ignorance and limitless hubris. No understand of any aspect of the issue, but he’s convinced he can fix it while offering up zero in the way of a plan. We just need to get all that Canadian water that is wasted into the Pacific down to California, natch.
Trump’s response to whether he won the last election or not perfectly summed up his position on the matter. Blithering nonsense.
To my comment earlier in the day, the issue with the first fifteen minutes that I had was the Rogan asked Trump a relatively simple question, which was what his first day in the WH was like. His answer was wandering mess, from the Lincoln bedroom to Lincoln’s height and large bed, to Abe and Mary Todd’s depression to Lee’s battle record and on and on with topics having zero to do with Trump’s first day in office. Trump’s famous weave is just marketing talk for an inability to come close to staying on topic.
Final thought. The discussion of Trump’s ear post-assassination was interesting. Fair to say that Rogan struggled to see a scar.
So tell us what you really think. Congratulations, you have four more years to hate DJT. I hope your daughter ran well today
Wow. That's what you got out of all of that? Not trying to be snarky, but your quoted post above reads like you were assigned to find something...anything...to find fault with. It's a pedantic mess.
I wish you applied similar standards to anything that Harris has said the last two weeks. The CNN Townhall alone was ripe for criticism.
He actually answered that question succinctly. The 'extra' was just that..."extra". Your complaints here are clearly colored by an overwhelming bias/predetermined opinion on Trump. It's a cliche, but I think it's clear now that he could literally announce the cure for cancer & you'd find something to take issue with.
You have just done the unthinkable using what liberals call unsupported assertions, otherwise known as facts.
Mass deportation easy- they are costing billions to support. They are given food shelter plane tickets phones while out poor suffer. They are not working so no construction to society or taxes. They clog up our hospitals where they don’t pay. Kids in school that don’t speak English which diminishes our kids education. Plus all the crime and devastation. The illegals being deported will save billions. Legal immigration is fine. Illegal invasion is NOT!
Tariffs are to encourage businesses to open and produce goods in the US by allowing them to compete against the slave produced goods from China. In addition it is a bargaining tool. Those countries put tariffs on our imports so they don’t purchase from us. Time we do the same.
Manufacturing must be done here. All our feel phones could have a kill switch installed where cons can cut off service with the flick of a switch for all we know. Most of our medicines are made out of the country. That is both a risk that they are inferior or could be poisoned and if war breaks out they could easily cut us off leaving many without life saving medicine. Some things MUST be made here to protect us. The more made in the US the more jobs and taxes paid the richer and more stable our nation is. I think it’s pretty simple.
Open borders are treason and should be treated as such against those in power who did it
It is hard to lie when you don’t ever give a straight answer.
Trump triggers some people by opening his mouth and once that happens, the brain shuts down
I blame Trump in part for this as many of us were just so exhausted by him in 2020 and wrongly convinced ourselves that Biden would be a sane moderate
Conversely, Biden (and now Harris) gets the credit of curing many of us of being triggered by Trump, as their incompetence and lawfare have made us listen to Trump a bit more carefully and reflect back on his years in office and the conditions in the country and the world in a favorable light.
If Trump loses, which now seems unlikely but not out of the question, it will be due to a huge turnout by single females who are most easily triggered and are blinded by the (false) accusations that Trump wants (and can accomplish on his own) a nationwide abortion ban.
Very good points. The moderate democrats are so hell bent on destroying Trump that they are giving away fundamental truths and giving into the radical left to accomplish this goal. I do not understand how you can vote for open borders without properly vetting immigrants, the we can’t define a woman lie and the transgender movement, government restriction and regulation of free speech, the continued push to divide us as a nation( we are no longer Americans we are instead special interest groups or oppressors), undermine democracy through using OSHA, DOJ, packing the court etc.
They are so focused on a man who lead the country fairly well during his 4 years. Yes he is an ass, he is arrogant and many other adjectives. But he is also a capable negotiator and he talked a lot and often said things that were wrong and off base. But his actions and the things he accomplished were greater than his words and missteps. Most of his worst moments were brought on by his opponents desire to ruin him at all cost. Evil and underhanded deeds have brought on more and increasing evil and underhanded deeds. If you are looking for a politician who is upright and you can be proud of you will always be disappointed.
When our counties septic system is in such bad shape I will gladly allow an ass, jerk, egotistical person. Washington has become an overflowing septic tank caused by both parties. The left keeps trying to flush the toilet with lies that are said in polite way. The republicans just want to point out the lefts missteps and point to the past. I want someone that will bring a plunger and I don’t care if the offend anyone including myself if they can upset the Apple cart enough to get everyone’s attention. We need to quit worrying about the politicians and worry about what needs to be done to keep our country moving in the right direction. We can and should set the agenda and we should not let the parties and those in control make us choose between 2 options that neither side wants.
He did it his first term and prices didn't go up. At some point, reality smacks you in the face and you have to admit the crap you hear on MSNBC is crap.
I saw a clip, amazing that he's given the floor to explain the voter fraud and never does.
Yea that was my biggest issue with him and has been the entire time really. Nothing new (lest we forget Russian interference for 4 years ala Hillary) with presidents but I’ll admit him moreso than others.
Iron Range woman charged with voting twice
The 40-year-old allegedly submitted a ballot for her dead mother, an "avid Donald Trump supporter" who wanted to vote for him.
www.duluthnewstribune.com
@Savannah_Dawg - thought it was always only Dems??
Wait a minute wait a minute… you are saying that he did it in his first term and prices didn’t go up…. Read what you stated very slowly…
But you realize that manufacturing in the US costs far far more than in other countries right? That’s why people move it to India,Mexico, Pakistan, China etc… this will ultimately increase the costs of good far greater than what we pay now for our imports. And people in the US don’t want those jobs!! Why do you think all of the Haitians in Springfield are there?! Factory jobs.
You can’t say “immigrants BAD” but also want to onshore manufacturing where you need… hmmmm… Immigrants.
Look at Trump - even he has all his crap made in China. The fact that he is whining about China and then gets Bibles made there, where there are companies that can do it in the US is the ultimate double standard and just shows you he is FOS and isn’t “America First”… he is “Trump first”
You keep missing the point. We keep saying bad illegal unvetted immigrants. There is a major difference and I think you know that.
It is like the difference between FDA approved medicines and compounded. The compounded might be okay and good but you have no real idea what you might be getting.
I think you either watched the wrong one and/or should have watched more. The actual question was about being "robbed", which includes more than just "voter fraud" and his answers touched on that.
He said some voting rules were changed without legislative approval, mentioned extending the voting time, and counties receiving unsigned ballots as examples. His 'had to admit' is a reference to the state courts finding that rules were changed without the proper legislative process.
He noted the small number of votes that could have changed the entire result (22K) and then noted as an example the number of intel officials that incorrectly denied that Hunter Biden’s laptop belonged to him.
Rogan then asked “You say you have all this evidence that 2020 was rigged. Why haven’t you put this evidence in a consumable form?”
Trump said there have been books written on it. “We have an author named Hemingway, who is a great writer,” Trump said. “She wrote a book on it,” referring to The Federalist’s Mollie Hemingway and her book Rigged: How the Media, Big Tech, and the Democrats Seized our elections.
When discussing that critics say Trump’s complaints about the election results were heard in court, but Trump said judges never heard the merits of the cases: “They would say, ‘You don’t have standing,” Trump said. They didn’t rule on the merits. The merits never got there. The judges didn’t have what it took to turn it over.”
Trump can't explain voter fraud because there was no fraud.
Trump wins over swing voters with Joe Rogan interview: Analysis — Newsweek
Former President Donald Trump appears to have won over swing voters after his interview with podcaster Joe Rogan, according to new analysis conducted for Newsweek.
Man you try to make something negative out of everything Trump says. You may be a smart guy but too me this makes you sound ignorant and boring. Never seen or heard anything like this.
Great.
I watched enough of it. Saying something happened does not mean it happened. He gave no proof. He was given the floor and said, "go read a book". Like I said in another post, I don't speak MAGA.
The success of Tariffs are the reason the big banks got together and planned out the federal income tax and the federal reserve.
Our country was incredibly successful before that and tariffs were commonly used and known to be very effective. The first national tax was instituted to help offset expenses for the civil war but then discontinued.
Who owns the banks and the companies? Blackrock. Who owns Blackrock, the Rothchilds and the top 100 families in the world. Know your history people.
The American People are extremely hard working and so many work their whole lives to have their work stolen through taxes and bank interest. This is a real problem and the fed has also stolen the value of work through inflation and the devaluation of the dollar.
In my humble opinion as an Economics major the Federal Reserve and Income Tax are 2 of the greatest legal means to steal the wealth of the working person. It's an incredible tragedy.
Tariffs are great. Eliminating the federal income tax is great.
Our country was incredibly successful before that and tariffs were commonly used and known to be very effective. The first national tax was instituted to help offset expenses for the civil war but then discontinued.
Who owns the banks and the companies? Blackrock. Who owns Blackrock, the Rothchilds and the top 100 families in the world. Know your history people.
The American People are extremely hard working and so many work their whole lives to have their work stolen through taxes and bank interest. This is a real problem and the fed has also stolen the value of work through inflation and the devaluation of the dollar.
In my humble opinion as an Economics major the Federal Reserve and Income Tax are 2 of the greatest legal means to steal the wealth of the working person. It's an incredible tragedy.
Tariffs are great. Eliminating the federal income tax is great.
What did you watch the first 3 minutes. You libs don’t ever go read the facts. You always have to say what if this happened or this is what should have happened, never any facts.
He lied about 2020 election saying He won election & finally admitting He knew He lost. People stormed Capitol, some died, are in prison, had State voting laws changed by State Legislation & worst of all His lie has divided this Country to I wonder if it can be healed.Only GOD knows & only GOD can help us! GO DAWGS
