We live with an irrational sense of safety.

[RedNBlackNtheDay]

I have an ancestor lying dead and buried in Stewart Co., GA; killed in the border skirmishes of the Indian Wars.

His sons fought in the War Between the States. One was captured in the Vicksburg Campaign and spent the remainder of the war in a POW camp up north. The other, my direct ancestor, died in Williamsburg, VA during the Peninsula Campaign.

The latter’s son worked to save the remnants of the family farm during Reconstruction and never amounted to much more than what others would later deem as ‘poor white trash’. His son, my grandfather, turned to running liquor during the Great Depression to keep his family of five together and fed after cotton prices tanked.

The point is that we’ve never been safe. Life is real and it’s dangerous and it’s often devastating. We have become absorbed by the narcotic of distractions… but, evil is real and is likely not as far from your front door as you’ve convinced yourself.

The problem is thinking that others will handle the dirty work for you. We need to wake up and realize that WE are on the frontlines… in fact, we never left.

We just didn’t want to know that for a while.

 

[1gadave]

Well put

 

[donalsonville_dawg]

It’s it complete opposite to me: I think we have an irrational fear of a lack of safety. Isolated events happen, but at the end of the day the past decade or so has been the safest time to live in the US ever statistically. We’ve never been more safe and to live in irrational fear is to live without freedom.

 

[PXG]

It’s it complete opposite to me: I think we have an irrational fear of a lack of safety. Isolated events happen, but at the end of the day the past decade or so has been the safest time to live in the US ever statistically. We’ve never been more safe and to live in irrational fear is to live without freedom.

Amen.

 

[fprex]

I have an ancestor lying dead and buried in Stewart Co., GA; killed in the border skirmishes of the Indian Wars.

His sons fought in the War Between the States. One was captured in the Vicksburg Campaign and spent the remainder of the war in a POW camp up north. The other, my direct ancestor, died in Williamsburg, VA during the Peninsula Campaign.

The latter’s son worked to save the remnants of the family farm during Reconstruction and never amounted to much more than what others would later deem as ‘poor white trash’. His son, my grandfather, turned to running liquor during the Great Depression to keep his family of five together and fed after cotton prices tanked.

The point is that we’ve never been safe. Life is real and it’s dangerous and it’s often devastating. We have become absorbed by the narcotic of distractions… but, evil is real and is likely not as far from your front door as you’ve convinced yourself.

The problem is thinking that others will handle the dirty work for you. We need to wake up and realize that WE are on the frontlines… in fact, we never left.

We just didn’t want to know that for a while.

Live shot of me getting ready for the playoff games.

 

[Georgia Knight]

Historically, peace, order, and security are complete outliers.

Society takes them for granted without appreciating the contitions that created it, natural for those conditions to erode.

 

[paintdawg1]

I have an ancestor lying dead and buried in Stewart Co., GA; killed in the border skirmishes of the Indian Wars.

His sons fought in the War Between the States. One was captured in the Vicksburg Campaign and spent the remainder of the war in a POW camp up north. The other, my direct ancestor, died in Williamsburg, VA during the Peninsula Campaign.

The latter’s son worked to save the remnants of the family farm during Reconstruction and never amounted to much more than what others would later deem as ‘poor white trash’. His son, my grandfather, turned to running liquor during the Great Depression to keep his family of five together and fed after cotton prices tanked.

The point is that we’ve never been safe. Life is real and it’s dangerous and it’s often devastating. We have become absorbed by the narcotic of distractions… but, evil is real and is likely not as far from your front door as you’ve convinced yourself.

The problem is thinking that others will handle the dirty work for you. We need to wake up and realize that WE are on the frontlines… in fact, we never left.

We just didn’t want to know that for a while.

So so true RedNBlack........we just take everyday life here in the States as a given, I was stationed in Beirut, we set up a perimeter around the airport, we dug in for a little over 18 months, must of filled up over a million bags of sand for our bunkers. Getting fired at on a daily basis by radical Shiite Muslims and Hezbollahs IJO( Islamic jihad Organization) and not being able to return fire ( my only gripe with the Reagan administration) it made me think many days how lucky and fortunate we as Americans have it in every day living, but still knowing that, its never a good idea to be out on the streets anywhere at 3:15 AM, especially NOLA.

 

[rectomo]

Live shot of me getting ready for the playoff games.

OK, here's my wallet.

 

[Harry Thornton]

Safety is relative. If you live on English Ave in Atl, or Crenshaw BLVD in Compton, you have a very different view of safety than someone in Athens or Buckhead or Calhoun (where I live).

It’s just when white folks get killed that we start thinking about lack of safety. There are many millions who stare death in the face every day in our cities.

 

[NetParDawg]

Safety is relative. If you live on English Ave in Atl, or Crenshaw BLVD in Compton, you have a very different view of safety than someone in Athens or Buckhead or Calhoun (where I live).

It’s just when white folks get killed that we start thinking about lack of safety. There are many millions who stare death in the face every day in our cities.

Correct. To your point, even in the same town. East Albany v West Albany. Two different confidence levels.

 

[fprex]

Safety is relative. If you live on English Ave in Atl, or Crenshaw BLVD in Compton, you have a very different view of safety than someone in Athens or Buckhead or Calhoun (where I live).

It’s just when white folks get killed that we start thinking about lack of safety. There are many millions who stare death in the face every day in our cities.

Oh, snap. You're going to hit a nerve, Harry!

 

[RedNBlackNtheDay]

Safety is relative. If you live on English Ave in Atl, or Crenshaw BLVD in Compton, you have a very different view of safety than someone in Athens or Buckhead or Calhoun (where I live).

It’s just when white folks get killed that we start thinking about lack of safety. There are many millions who stare death in the face every day in our cities.

If you mean Buckhead (30625), maybe.

 

[Harry Thornton]

Oh, snap. You're going to hit a nerve, Harry!

I figure it’s safer posting what I just posted than posting about tattoos😁

 

[wwforest]

So so true RedNBlack........we just take everyday life here in the States as a given, I was stationed in Beirut, we set up a perimeter around the airport, we dug in for a little over 18 months, must of filled up over a million bags of sand for our bunkers. Getting fired at on a daily basis by radical Shiite Muslims and Hezbollahs IJO( Islamic jihad Organization) and not being able to return fire ( my only gripe with the Reagan administration) it made me think many days how lucky and fortunate we as Americans have it in every day living, but still knowing that, its never a good idea to be out on the streets anywhere at 3:15 AM, especially NOLA.

I'm reading a book on that right now by Jack Carr.

 

[fprex]

I figure it’s safer posting what I just posted than posting about tattoos😁

Harry Thornton with the fireworks this afternoon!

 

[NewnanDawg44]

Safety is relative. If you live on English Ave in Atl, or Crenshaw BLVD in Compton, you have a very different view of safety than someone in Athens or Buckhead or Calhoun (where I live).

It’s just when white folks get killed that we start thinking about lack of safety. There are many millions who stare death in the face every day in our cities.

Pathetic that you would choose an event like this to inject race into the conversation.

 

[fprex]

I figure it’s safer posting what I just posted than posting about tattoos😁

Now you did it. We've been moved to the Chat! Get out!

 

[Harry Thornton]

Pathetic that you would choose an event like this to inject race into the conversation.

Just stating the obvious. And I don’t think you understand the definition of “pathos.”

 

[Harry Thornton]

Now you did it. We've been moved to the Chat! Get out!

Ooops! I didn’t mean to.

 

[Southern_brand]

It’s it complete opposite to me: I think we have an irrational fear of a lack of safety. Isolated events happen, but at the end of the day the past decade or so has been the safest time to live in the US ever statistically. We’ve never been more safe and to live in irrational fear is to live without freedom.

I can agree with this; however, I think this has caused many to think safety is the norm and feel there is no need to prepare.

 

[Southern_brand]

I'm reading a book on that right now by Jack Carr.

Name of it?

 

[paintdawg1]

I'm reading a book on that right now by Jack Carr.

I might need to check that out myself, thanks! I lost 3 brothers( USMC Brothers) on that bloody day in October 1983, I went through boot camp at Parris Islad and ITS at camp Lejuene with them, just regular young kids like you and i were at one time. Timing and luck of the draw is everything. Our intentions were good as we were working with the French and a few Brits over there, but Reagan essentially sent us over there as sitting ducks. I do think, or hope, we learned a valuable lesson going forward when intervening in the Middle East. They are just a different animal, always have been , always will be.

 

[NewnanDawg44]

Just stating the obvious. And I don’t think you understand the definition of “pathos.”

The obvious? You said people only start thinking about public safety when WHITE people are killed. Do you not remember George Floyd? Trayvon Martin? Michael Brown? Rodney King?

Should I go on? You could not be more wrong.

 

[HuntinDawg]

The point is that we’ve never been safe. Life is real and it’s dangerous and it’s often devastating. We have become absorbed by the narcotic of distractions… but, evil is real and is likely not as far from your front door as you’ve convinced yourself.

The problem is thinking that others will handle the dirty work for you. We need to wake up and realize that WE are on the frontlines… in fact, we never left.

We just didn’t want to know that for a while.

It’s it complete opposite to me: I think we have an irrational fear of a lack of safety. Isolated events happen, but at the end of the day the past decade or so has been the safest time to live in the US ever statistically. We’ve never been more safe and to live in irrational fear is to live without freedom.

I actually agree with both of you. These are 2 different sides of the same coin and not mutually exclusive at all. Nothing in the first post is about irrational fear. We can easily give up our freedoms due to irrational fear AND the irrational belief that we can legislate or somehow guarantee our safety. We can't. Also, no matter how well prepared you are (or think you are) to take responsibility for your own safety, life is fragile and we are all incredibly easy to kill (unless you have a security detail and even then...).

 

[Harry Thornton]

The obvious? You said people only start thinking about public safety when WHITE people are killed. Do you not remember George Floyd? Trayvon Martin? Michael Brown? Rodney King?

Should I go on? You could not be more wrong.

Buddy, I didn’t mean to piss you off. I’m sure you’re a good man and Dawg Fan. Have a great 2025 my man and let’s root the Dawgs on the victory today.

 

[wwforest]

Name of it?

Targeted Beirut by Jack Carr. Very well researched and written. Joe Rogan also has a podcast with Jack Carr, a Navy Seal.
The battalion medical doctor was from Milledgeville, ROTC at UGA, played trombone at Crystal Pistol at six flags for a summer job. He was killed there. Lt John Hudson.
@paintdawg1

 

[NewnanDawg44]

Buddy, I didn’t mean to piss you off. I’m sure you’re a good man and Dawg Fan. Have a great 2025 my man and let’s root the Dawgs on the victory today.

You didn’t piss me off. And you are entitled to your opinion. I happen to disagree with your opinion on this. I hope that doesn’t piss you off. It’s ok to disagree on things.

 

[wwforest]

I might need to check that out myself, thanks! I lost 3 brothers( USMC Brothers) on that bloody day in October 1983, I went through boot camp at Parris Islad and ITS at camp Lejuene with them, just regular young kids like you and i were at one time. Timing and luck of the draw is everything. Our intentions were good as we were working with the French and a few Brits over there, but Reagan essentially sent us over there as sitting ducks. I do think, or hope, we learned a valuable lesson going forward when intervening in the Middle East. They are just a different animal, always have been , always will be.

Thank you for your service. I was a Senior at UGA when that happened.
Very good index in the book. You would probably recognize many of them. And a list of those killed.

 

[Southern_brand]

Just stating the obvious. And I don’t think you understand the definition of “pathos.”

Let me provide a different take. I don’t necessarily think race is a primary factor here. When something is considered “normal,” less is done to remove the normalcy of it. For example, crime is “normal” in poorer regions and not “normal” in affluent areas. Therefore, when a crime is committed in a poor neighborhood, it’s treated differently than if a crime is committed in an affluent neighborhood, regardless of race. Folks typically don’t have a desire to make a change until a crime is committed closer to their door. So as long as a crime is committed across town, their mindset and way of life isn’t bothered. But if a crime is committed much closer, their mindset is different. The problem is, affluent people are generally the ones that are in positions to create change and make a difference. So, as long as crime is distant from affluence, the mindset is that there is no reason to change anything. Now, to your point about race being a factor, it’s just unfortunate that the demographics of poorer neighborhoods do tend to be more minority heavy. However, there are also white folks in poorer neighborhoods and entire regions of poor who’re folks. One example would be Western NC.

My point is that race isn’t what causes freak-outs. Proximity to affluence is what causes the freak-outs regardless of the skin color of those in affluence.

 

[Southern_brand]

Targeted Beirut by Jack Carr. Very well researched and written. Joe Rogan also has a podcast with Jack Carr, a Navy Seal.
The battalion medical doctor was from Milledgeville, ROTC at UGA, played trombone at Crystal Pistol at six flags for a summer job. He was killed there. Lt John Hudson.
@paintdawg1

I know Jack Carr. Have listened to his podcast, just haven’t read his books yet.

 

[NewnanDawg44]

Let me provide a different take. I don’t necessarily think race is a primary factor here. When something is considered “normal,” less is done to remove the normalcy of it. For example, crime is “normal” in poorer regions and not “normal” in affluent areas. Therefore, when a crime is committed in a poor neighborhood, it’s treated differently than if a crime is committed in an affluent neighborhood, regardless of race. Folks typically don’t have a desire to make a change until a crime is committed closer to their door. So as long as a crime is committed across town, their mindset and way of life isn’t bothered. But if a crime is committed much closer, their mindset is different. The problem is, affluent people are generally the ones that are in positions to create change and make a difference. So, as long as crime is distant from affluence, the mindset is that there is no reason to change anything. Now, to your point about race being a factor, it’s just unfortunate that the demographics of poorer neighborhoods do tend to be more minority heavy. However, there are also white folks in poorer neighborhoods and entire regions of poor who’re folks. One example would be Western NC.

My point is that race isn’t what causes freak-outs. Proximity to affluence is what causes the freak-outs regardless of the skin color of those in affluence.

Well said. My objection to the other poster was to simply inject race without and nuance is unfounded and devoid of actual facts.

 

[RedcoatOf94]

Safety is relative. If you live on English Ave in Atl, or Crenshaw BLVD in Compton, you have a very different view of safety than someone in Athens or Buckhead or Calhoun (where I live).

It’s just when white folks get killed that we start thinking about lack of safety. There are many millions who stare death in the face every day in our cities.

And that's a crying shame too. Anytime we try to take the steps to stem the crime or improve life in those areas the "community leaders" cry RAAAAAACISSSTT!!

 

[ugaboz]

Safety is relative. If you live on English Ave in Atl, or Crenshaw BLVD in Compton, you have a very different view of safety than someone in Athens or Buckhead or Calhoun (where I live).

It’s just when white folks get killed that we start thinking about lack of safety. There are many millions who stare death in the face every day in our cities.

those many millions you speak of are they all non-white?
asking for a friend

 

[ugaboz]

Pathetic that you would choose an event like this to inject race into the conversation.

some always do