Welp. This was bound to happen but the Dept of Education

[LawDawg86]

Fair enough, thanks. Something happened in Texas that I thought was interesting. The school board voted to implement a curriculum that includes Bible verses for language arts age k-4 in public schools I believe. It’s not mandatory but the schools that use it get extra money, I think that’s the general gist. When I found out I felt like that would open the door for law suits on religious freedom/discrimination grounds. Was I off in that reaction or what do you think the response would be to that?

Top of my head that seems like it will get challenged and the school board will lose.

 

[DarthJaynus]

Top of my head that seems like it will get challenged and the school board will lose.

Got it, thanks for you insight man!

 

[LawDawg86]

Got it, thanks for you insight man!

I basically had a hotline to Pat Robertson's attorney for every time a Principal took away a bible or made someone take off a Jesus/cross shirt.

 

[DarthJaynus]

I basically had a hotline to Pat Robertson's attorney for every time a Principal took away a bible or made someone take off a Jesus/cross shirt.

So I’m assuming it’s similar logic right? Like they can’t take away bibles but they also can’t make children in public school read the Bible either? Am I on the right track here?

 

[LawDawg86]

So I’m assuming it’s similar logic right? Like they can’t take away bibles but they also can’t make children in public school read the Bible either? Am I on the right track here?

Correct. Public schools can teach religious history, philosophy, etc. What they can't do is encourage one religion over another, nor allow the practice of religion in the public schools. Certainly can't "make" any student read the Bible (or Quoran, etc.).

 

[DarthJaynus]

Correct. Public schools can teach religious history, philosophy, etc. What they can't do is encourage one religion over another, nor allow the practice of religion in the public schools. Certainly can't "make" any student read the Bible (or Quoran, etc.).

That’s what I thought. Thanks again for humoring me

 

[Captain]

I've never said there wouldn't be lawsuits over Title IX. I still believe that common sense will prevail. You can't take 98% of the revenue generated by men's football and require that it be given 50% to women whose sports lose money. This is far different from ensuring that (1) women have equal opportunity and that (2) the scholarship counts are the same.

Women's sports have never been treated fully equally with men's sports, and it isn't required by Title IX.

This is one of many memos, regulations, and orders being made in the last hours of the current administration. It's non-binding. The department that issued the memo likely won't even exist in a year.

You missed the point, again. I believe we can acknowledge our football program is well funded and lacks for nothing. Nor do any of our women’s programs, minor sports programs, i.e. , tennis, golf, swimming, track.

Title IX does require men’s and women’s sports be treated equally. Equally can defined in various ways. It doesn’t mean women must receive the same “money” as men. It does mean physical facilities, coach compensation, equipment, transportation, be on an equal or similar basis. Are you familiar with the complaint and lawsuit by Suzanne and Andy against the AA alleging discrimination in pay? Or the Fed audit of the Ath Dept back in Damon’s first year? They actually counted basketballs, socks, softballs, bats, baseballs, uniforms.

I agree, the next Adm is likely to rollback some of the recent targets, changes, expansions.

 

[Captain]

What a world we live in. The existence of government agency whose mission is to ensure proper and equitable education of our youth, is considered a bad thing. SMH. Do there need to be some reforms, sure. All government agencies and departments should continually be looked at and changed, if needed, do better serve the public. Let's not get carried away with our actions or our rhetoric.

“Equitable” education? 😳

 

[Athens is Heaven]

The assistantships and fellowships in science, engineering, and math are largely grant funded. The grants are secured from outside entities by faculty members. The students working on these grants (via assistantships/fellowships) are temporary (length of the grant) University employees.

An overwhelming majority of the graduate positions are purely merit (academic performance, research interests, and prior experience) based with no regard for gender. It is true that women have started to overrepresented in some of these fields, but that is simply due to more women choosing these degrees (and attending college in general), not a sex based/biased selection process.

I'm a big supporter of Title IX. It has provided a lot of educational opportunities to women via sports that otherwise wouldn't have been there. That in my opinion is a great thing. All that being said, revenue from NIL (compensation for the university generating revenue through tv and other marketing avenues) should be split in an equitable manner based on the amount of revenue generation of each sport.

This is what happens when the government gets involved. And I can’t understand why so many want that.

The government and lawyers want some of that money the universities are making.

 

[808 Dawg]

The government and lawyers want some of that money the universities are making.

You realize that if the Feds wanted money from the Universities, they would simply just give less to the Universities. Also, you realize that all reputable universities are non-profit, so they are not making money. In fact, all state universities are heavily subsidized by their respective state legislatures.

 

[808 Dawg]

“Equitable” education? 😳

And.... It is shocking for someone to think that there should be some core curricula, learning standards, and student welfare that are common to all students?

 

[Athens is Heaven]

You realize that if the Feds wanted money from the Universities, they would simply just give less to the Universities. Also, you realize that all reputable universities are non-profit, so they are not making money. In fact, all state universities are heavily subsidized by their respective state legislatures.

I am talking about the AA and the TV money football brings in.

 

[MepoDawg#]

The government and lawyers want some of that money the universities are making.

Yes, coming from the student-athlete.

 

[LawDawg86]

1. Not binding
2. Last day act of the current admin - fact, not politics
3. Already political backlash