1) she’s a chick so lots of chicks will vote for her
2) she looks black so lots of blacks will vote for her
3) all media (except Fox News, Newsmax) are completely rooting for her rather than actually question thr Biden Harris record.
What is the narrative for how Harris will win?
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2) she looks black so lots of blacks will vote for her
3) all media (except Fox News, Newsmax) are completely rooting for her rather than actually question thr Biden Harris record.
1) he hates the same people that mediocre, uneducated whites do;
2) that’s it - he has no other qualifications.
As LBJ said, you convince the sorriest white man that’s he is better than the best brown man, you can pick his pocket all day long.
Trump did not reduce the deficit.
He didn’t repeal and replace Obama Care. He talked so much shit about that when he was campaigning.
He didn’t pass, or even get around to proposing, an infrastructure bill. He talked so much shit about that, too.
He didn’t build a wall and Mexico didn’t pay for what he did.
He didn’t drain the swamp. Although his stupid decisions in terminating or cutting certain agencies certainly f’d the country badly - glad he let some of the water out of the infectious disease science “swamp”. Good call.
Our trade deficit with China increased as a result of his ego driven, stupid tariff “wars”. The overall increase in US trade deficit for goods and services during his term was the worst in history.
He didn’t increase manufacturing jobs. His ego driven, stupid policies accomplished nothing. Manufacturing jobs had been increasing gradually for several years. He turned that around quickly.
Inflation was gonna happen no matter who was President in 2021. Biden has made a hash of it, but the idea that there would have not been severe inflation under Trump is nonsense. It was inevitable and global.
He hates the same people you do. That’s it.
Oh yea - he’s an immoral, despicable person.
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My BIL is from NYC and he has told me many stories of Trump and his charity towards people there. All without seeking recognition for doing so. Trump has his flaws, as we all do, but he is far from a immoral despicable person.
1. I hate to tell you, but I am pretty sure that they hate you. You just don’t know it I guess. Your age group and what you represent without them knowing you makes you hated for no reason.
2. He is more qualified than Kamala. He has already been president for four years. Kamala has been bad at every single job she has done. Literally the worst approval rating for a vp ever. For you. It is only that she isn’t trump.
3. Lbj said that in the 60’s. It was relevant then. It isn’t relevant anymore unless you cower to fear porn racism. Which is old and systemic racism claims have gone away because it doesn’t hold water. Which is why state by state are slowly getting rid of dei. We have seen what these kind of irresponsible hires can do. It keeps proving itself over and over.
4. Things were better under Trump. The economy was recovering in October 2020. Go look it up. What happened next you can’t devalue because it doesn’t meet the Orangeman bad narrative. The buck stops with the president. We have the most credit card debt ever right now. People are mortgaged to the hilt. That wasn’t the case. Biden didn’t stop using the credit card. The global economy is bs. We should be leading. If our economy was better. I bet the world’s would be too.
4. Biden pissed off opec and they gave him the middle finger. Kamala can’t spell opec. If you really want her dealing with Putin or xi, well I don’t have the words for you my friend to describe how insane that really is.
5. I will have his accomplishments posted. It has been before. And it is long. @TheOriginalSoCalDawg please post that list when you can. You are nitpicking. If you got that from any left reporting paper or source, I have proved over the last month hardly anything posted by the left is true about Trump, Biden or Kamala. You can’t say it is because they are lying like dogs about her now.
6. I am so glad football season will be a distraction from politics. Sane people I watch post defense of Kamala. We have seen a trump presidency. Kamala is an idiot of the highest order. This has been proven time and again. The left didn’t even want her to be the vp according to pelosi and Schumer less than a year ago. She is nothing more than a never trumper candidate. If you keep voting for progressives to run our country, it will get even worse. It isn’t about who Trump is or isn’t. It is about what he will not support. The people who elected a vegetable to be president probably should sit this one out. It isn’t like we weren’t all screaming at you that he wasn’t all there. Someone told you. Why were you too blind to see. Don’t be too blind to see again. For the love of god.
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Did he take classes at Trump University?
“A federal court approved a $25 million settlement Tuesday with students who said they were duped by Donald Trump and his now-defunct Trump University, which promised to teach them the "secrets of success" in the real estate industry.”
Or just contribute to Trump’s charitable foundation?
“A New York judge ordered President Donald Trump to pay $2 million to settle claims that he used his personal foundation as a piggybank to advance his personal and political interests. The settlement stems from a lawsuit filed last year by New York’s attorney general, which accused the president of a pattern of “persistently illegal conduct” involving the Donald J. Trump Foundation. Donald Jr., Eric, and Ivanka were also named in the case. After the lawsuit was filed, Trump defiantly insisted he would never settle the case.”
I’m not trying to talk you into voting for Harris. I’m pointing out the folly of supporting Trump .
Just tell me which of the substantive points that I made are incorrect.
He promised to reduce the deficit. He promised to repeal and replace Obamacare. He promised an infrastructure bill, and a wall paid for by Mexico. He promised that he would bring back lost manufacturing jobs. He promised he would stare down China and reduce the trade deficit. Zero success. All bullshit.
To his credit, he’s not promising anything this time other than mass deportations. As best I can tell, he has no other ideas, no policies, no vision for the next run. He has not mentioned it if he does - too busy whining and lashing out. That’s his platform - literally all he has offered so far is “I’m awesome and the greatest of the great, my opponents are horrible, so vote for me or the world will explode”. That’s an accurate summary of his campaign message.
He’s gonna win, and it will be the same as last time. At the end he will have accomplished nothing substantive. He will divide the country every chance he gets in order to excite his dufus supporters and distract them from his failure to deliver on his promises. Our national security and place in the world order will be diminished as he hires and fires cabinet members based upon immature, egotistical whims.
And as it happens again, the enlightened among us will know with absolute certainty that he cares only about himself and wouldn’t piss on 99.99% of the suckers who vote for him.
Curious about why it was okay for Democratic voters to go for several other candidates over Harris for 2020, but if a voter doesn't support her in 2024 then they're racist and misogynistic.
Good points. I still think Trumps will win, but it will be a race to the finish.
Oooohhh you are so smart and sooooo enlightened only with dim untrue talking points not actual facts.
As for you self righteous morality hit on Trump, tell us about Harris. We know for a fact she shacked up with a married man while he was still married along with all the other sordid things about her.
Here is a fact about you. You are just a puppet of dim lies and propaganda and would vote for a literal skunk as long as it’s not Trump. Lmbo. Kill the country but stop Trump.
Let’s break down the enlightened part of this post. I have seen this so much on this board. It is a post most lefties and middle dwellers use to shut down their posts. An attention getter.
Name me one person at the top of the lefty list that would piss on you if you were in fire. I will hang up and listen to crickets. That is just tds. Biden? He is a fifty year politician. He and Jill went head first into the first election knowing his brain was f’ed. And don’t tell me no they didn’t, because they were doing it again. Until forced out. He even told you he had to give up personal ambition. Whoops. He wanted the power. Are you gullible enough to tell me Biden even acts like he cares about you? Don’t think pelosi gives two shits about you. Talking about being an all day sucker. Trump has been around 8 years. Those two have suckered the left for fifty. Schumer? lol. Schiff? Aoc? lol. Wait, wait I got one. Talib. She said she cares about her own people more than you. I think we can put that statement to bed because it doesn’t hold water. We are all suckers. You voted for a vege who doesn’t care about you. Own it.
Trump is popular amongst his most ardent base because at least he acts passionate that it is about the American people. He gave back his salary. I can point to way more things that narcissistic dude has done since he became a politician for the people than Biden or pelosi.
Biden was a chameleon. He was an ardent moderate. Damn near Republican. I had friends say I am voting for him because of this. I tried to tell them you aren’t listening. He is a shell of himself. This man destroyed the border. After 2008, he called sanctuary cities dumps. This is what they turn into. 🤦♂️
You think Kamala cares about you at all. She was the most liberal politician on planet earth. You are a middle guy. She cares about you in November. Once you pull the lever she isn’t governing for one millisecond for you. This is the same women who was ok looking like a flat out whore for Montell Williams to move up the ladder. He was holding hands with her and another woman like he had two dates and they were both his girlfriends. Can you honestly tell me for one second they care about you more than trump cares about his voters? Hell no. That should be a dead issue. At best it is a push.
He promised to fix the border and end the wars so far. And fix the economy. Continue to keep the Supreme Court conservative leaning. Pretty simple and about it. Kamala ran from the border the first time around. You want her negotiating with the Middle East or Putin. Middle eastern terrorists would just assume kill her. They don’t respect anything she would say. It is disgusting how they treat women. But it doesn’t make it less true. He would have repealed Obamacare. He was advised it could cause a nightmare. Same with not releasing the jfk docs. He took advice. As brash as he is and narcissistic, that took some restraint and care. He went against his constituents for the greater good. But who is counting right. Orangeman bad.
In the same way that few Democrats wanted Joe Biden when the 2020 cycle started, but then closed ranks around him once it became clear that he would be.
But I don't see anyone calling Ds who are reluctant racist/misogynistic (doesn't mean there aren't some, and some calling them out). And, honestly, I have seen plenty of legitimate criticism of Kamala (and there's plenty of valid criticisms that haven't even surfaced). She's still got a lot to prove. But she is a different politician/candidate in 2024 than in 2020, and a lot has changed.
As for Republicans, Trump made his bed with Vance, who reinforces a lot of those sort of criticisms, so I don't know what to tell you about that - and one would be hard pressed to deny that there have been racist/misogynistic attacks, given that we have seen plenty in this chat.
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There's certainly real racist and misogynistic people out there. My point is why is it automatically that reason for not wanting Harris?
And yes, she's a different politician today. My question in earlier posts has been what has she accomplished in the past 3.5 years that makes her a better and more qualified candidate? Simply serving as VP isn't enough. What did she accomplish as VP that would make a reasonable person say she wasn't ready in 2020 but is ready in 2024?
I think that's a legitimate question as she was pretty invisible during this administration and one of the biggest things she was in charge of is now being dismissed.
I don't think it is, automatically, unless you are a racist or misogynist, in which case one might have reacted automatically. (Hence Speaker Johnson having to tell people to cut out the DEI stuff. Whether or not you think that constitutes racism / misogyny, I think it was Johnson's code to warn R electeds off more salacious attacks.)
I am not clear why being VP isn't enough. It's a seat in the room where the most difficult policy decisions and debates happen. We'll find out what she's taken from it on the campaign trail.
I don't really give her points for being the VP or take many points away based strictly on being the Veep. I think most can agree that it's the Veep's job to help the POTUS execute his agenda and should get a pass for actions that are clearly filling that role. Iows, if it was Biden's policy to open the borders and she was appointed as the lead person to fill that role, her job is to either fill that role, decline that role or resign.
Having said that, we also don't ignore her past record and statements. We know there are plenty of public statements made by KH that give us info in regards to who she is and where she stands politically and it isn't racist or misogynistic to make these statements and actions a part of a campaign to illustrate the difference in how the 2 candidates will govern.
True, we have done little to resolve the issues with machines. Also, the Dems are also registering illegals to vote. With over 40 million illegals in this country even a small percentage can flip the election. I think Biden only won by 170,000 votes in a few key states.
I think we should visit the misogynist angle. Being serious here and not arguing. There is a lot of leaders in the world she will be dealing with. In a pretty important time. Middle eastern leaders, opec, xi, putin etc. it isn’t right. What we do in this country is not what happens everywhere else. It doesn’t change that fact. She will be dealing with several different groups that don’t respect women at all. I guess we really don’t know what will happen till we have a women president. Which is going to happen. That being said, that is an angle that can’t and shouldn’t be ignored. Right or wrong.
Folks on the right have a history of name calling ("tree huggers", "snowflakes"). That doesn’t automatically make it untrue. Biden was the one who said he was going to make a woman VP in March 2020. That statement alone makes it a DEI selection. He also promised to appoint a black woman to the Supreme Court which underscores his intent of DEI based actions.
Democratic Debate March 15 Part 2
Dr. Sanjay Gupta: ... Gupta and this is CNN. Dana Bash: Welcome back to the CNN-Univision Democratic Presidential debate, live from Washington DC. And as we noted, Arizona will vote on Tuesday. We solicited questions from undecided Democratic voters there. One is from Amy Langenfeld, who is a...
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From that point on there was pressure for him to double down and specifically pick a woman of color. This is all well documented.
'It is historic': Women of color dominate Joe Biden's list for vice president
Joe Biden is coy about his vice president list, but his consideration of women of color is a milestone. Experts say it shows progress and the need for more representation.
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So while name calling and brushing with broad strokes certainly happens, that doesn't make the statements untrue in this specific case.
