You left wing socialistic commies need to see "Coming Home" movie. Worker's party rule in China

[oletex]

is the back drop of this award winning film by Chinese movie maker. Concerns a couple disunited for 20 years because their daughter betrayed the dad to the local party official in order to get the lead role in a dance production. He did 20 years during and after the Mao Cultural Revolution of the sixties and seventies. He was a college professor and his crime was speech that indicated disloyalty to the party.

Sad part is the party hack who got the "confession" from his child wanted his beautiful young wife and became a party precinct captain and reported him for anti-worker's party ideas and he was sent away. While the precinct chief/snitch then forced himself upon the young wife who could not report him because of his position.

 

[FeralDawg]

I think there's a disconnect with people and politics in that they always see
what they perceive the good side of a type of movement but miss all the bad
parts. It's like a weird kind of blindness. I can see how these utopian visions
like the treefort village takes place but it never turns out that way. Millions have
been lined up and killed by Socialists and Communists but somehow loons
keep showing up for Bernies speeches to listen rather than stone that dolt.
I swear they are like lemmings, and as sure as I post that some supposed scholar
will post how my historical perception is all wrong and no one has 'directly' died because of Socialism or Communism, and they'll argue it endlessly and besmirch America as another failed enterprise and it's somehow our fault... but I digress.

 

[HeulenHund2]

I think there's a disconnect with people and politics in that they always see
what they perceive the good side of a type of movement but miss all the bad
parts. It's like a weird kind of blindness. I can see how these utopian visions
like the treefort village takes place but it never turns out that way. Millions have
been lined up and killed by Socialists and Communists but somehow loons
keep showing up for Bernies speeches to listen rather than stone that dolt.
I swear they are like lemmings, and as sure as I post that some supposed scholar
will post how my historical perception is all wrong and no one has 'directly' died because of Socialism or Communism, and they'll argue it endlessly and besmirch America as another failed enterprise and it's somehow our fault... but I digress.

Site a post arguing in support of a communist state..EVER.
This is the straw man of straw men, jousting air, there isn't even a windmill to joust.
I'm not sure if there is a Democratic Socialist who supports Sanders for POTUS who posts here, but confusing Bernie's politics with communism is just plain silly.

 

[FeralDawg]

Whatever, Helen. Hit Dawg yelps. Knew you'd post. I almost put YOUR name in it.
You sure you haven't seen any posts about how Socialism works better than Capitalism. Or 'unfettered' capitalism as the POTUS and his like call it?
And certainly the fundamental transformation or America cheered on by the ruling
class certainly may have your blessing but not mine.
Straw man. Sure. Controlling health as a way to corral the yahoos is a sure fire example of governmental control, but keep drinking the kool-aid. They won't
bother you. Between the Bush's, the Clinton's and this new form of 'I know what's best for you' Prezzy we are fundamentally changed, but not for the better.
And have you MISSED AgEnd saying how wonderful Sanders is?

 

[oletex]

Site a post arguing in support of a communist state..EVER.
This is the straw man of straw men, jousting air, there isn't even a windmill to joust.
I'm not sure if there is a Democratic Socialist who supports Sanders for POTUS who posts here, but confusing Bernie's politics with communism is just plain silly.[/QUO

"CITE"............AgEng disagrees with you. In any event what part of jailing Americans because they are affluent goes over your head? What part of supporting Daniel Ortega's murderous regime in South America, going to his meetings and birthdays to show support right up to when the people suffering under the commusint system threw the whole gang out. Which part of his long avowed support of the Castro dictatorship in Cuba and fighting against sanctions aimed at stopping them from jailing and murdering political dissidents have you not heard of? And did you agree with his visits to Moscow to show support for that communist regime again and again, even honeymooning there. As usual one party, stamp out dissent, worker's party zealotry is in denial til they get control.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Whatever, Helen. Hit Dawg yelps. Knew you'd post. I almost put YOUR name in it.
You sure you haven't seen any posts about how Socialism works better than Capitalism. Or 'unfettered' capitalism as the POTUS and his like call it?
And certainly the fundamental transformation or America cheered on by the ruling
class certainly may have your blessing but not mine.
Straw man. Sure. Controlling health as a way to corral the yahoos is a sure fire example of governmental control, but keep drinking the kool-aid. They won't
bother you. Between the Bush's, the Clinton's and this new form of 'I know what's best for you' Prezzy we are fundamentally changed, but not for the better.
And have you MISSED AgEnd saying how wonderful Sanders is?

Only fools and thieves believe ''unfettered'', or more accurate, un-governed capitalism is wise. That is a child's or a Ayn Rand groupie's thinking. There is no magic fairy that oversees economies.
Common sense = communism, sell me another line of BS.

Sanders isn't a communist, that is a big element in my point. I wouldn't vote for him, but he is a Western Europe type democratic socialist, which is a far cry from communism.

 

[oletex]

Only fools and thieves believe ''unfettered'', or more accurate, un-governed capitalism is wise. That is a child's or a Ayn Rand groupie's thinking. There is no magic fairy that oversees economies.
Common sense = communism, sell me another line of BS.

Sanders isn't a communist, that is a big element in my point. I wouldn't vote for him, but he is a Western Europe type democratic socialist, which is a far cry from communism.

Ok I want to believe you. Why, if he is not a communist, does he support the Castro dictatorship? Why did he unabashedly throw in with the Sandinista communists under Daniel Ortega? Why did he visit Russia and the Kremlin to celebrate May Day festivities? And why does he support Putin? Why would he desire to jail wealthy people on Park Ave and Wall street and yes, even on main street who are job and wealth creators even if they take advantage of the legal system to make obscen gobs of money.

 

[jenkinscreekdawg]

"CITE"............AgEng disagrees with you. In any event what part of jailing Americans because they are affluent goes over your head? What part of supporting Daniel Ortega's murderous regime in South America, going to his meetings and birthdays to show support right up to when the people suffering under the commusint system threw the whole gang out. Which part of his long avowed support of the Castro dictatorship in Cuba and fighting against sanctions aimed at stopping them from jailing and murdering political dissidents have you not heard of? And did you agree with his visits to Moscow to show support for that communist regime again and again, even honeymooning there. As usual one party, stamp out dissent, worker's party zealotry is in denial til they get control.

fcup i often wondered how the castro brothers feel now ( looking back ) at how they screwed up their country . i know fidel said a coupla years ago that they have never been able" to pay their way " . i'm sure the ruling bunch has pretty much what they want; but the rest of the folks have suffered and are still suffering . it's a dam shame !

 

[FeralDawg]

Sanders is selling the Communist way like the communists wanted...a little at a time. Makes it more palatable. Whether you call it communism, socialism, leftism,
progressivism or liberalism. You realize liberal USED to be a dirty word, right?
Then the new buzzword was progressive? Long before Liberal the first word was Progressive. That's right. The goal of the Marxist is to keep switching words while they move goal posts. Same end. Destroy the Constitutional Republic we have.

Let me ask you this: Are you more free today than 20 years ago?
Free to make simple decisions? With LESS government intrusions?
Taxation? Proportionately better off? Is your debt to income ratio more or less?
Nothing personal, but I despise W. for making it WORSE so it's not a D versus R thing for me. I mistrust the tools running the show here are understanding where we seem to be headed. The POTUS is CERTAIN where he wants it to go. He made it crystal clear. All about control because he knows better than us how much freedom he thinks we deserve.

 

[1966septemberdawg]

Sanders is selling the Communist way like the communists wanted...a little at a time. Makes it more palatable. Whether you call it communism, socialism, leftism,
progressivism or liberalism. You realize liberal USED to be a dirty word, right?
Then the new buzzword was progressive? Long before Liberal the first word was Progressive. That's right. The goal of the Marxist is to keep switching words while they move goal posts. Same end. Destroy the Constitutional Republic we have.

Let me ask you this: Are you more free today than 20 years ago?
Free to make simple decisions? With LESS government intrusions?
Taxation? Proportionately better off? Is your debt to income ratio more or less?
Nothing personal, but I despise W. for making it WORSE so it's not a D versus R thing for me. I mistrust the tools running the show here are understanding where we seem to be headed. The POTUS is CERTAIN where he wants it to go. He made it crystal clear. All about control because he knows better than us how much freedom he thinks we deserve.

Our freedoms are being chiseled away a little at the time. We are forced to purchase gasoline laced with ethanol, told what type of light bulbs we are allowed to sell and purchase, told we must conform to the new government provided health system, etc.
We are less free each and every day these "progressive's" shape our national policies. I am saddened by the quick loss of the freedoms we have witnessed in the past 20 years, but the last 6-1/2 years have really have snowballed those drastic freedom killing changes.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Ok I want to believe you. Why, if he is not a communist, does he support the Castro dictatorship? Why did he unabashedly throw in with the Sandinista communists under Daniel Ortega? Why did he visit Russia and the Kremlin to celebrate May Day festivities? And why does he support Putin? Why would he desire to jail wealthy people on Park Ave and Wall street and yes, even on main street who are job and wealth creators even if they take advantage of the legal system to make obscen gobs of money.

First off, Sanders does not support Putin, he lobbied for a coalition for sanctions against Russia. He simply has his own ideas on how to deal with them.
Second, this whole thing regarding Cuba and The Sandinistas comes from an interview he did 30 years ago after visiting Nicaragua. He accurately stated WE had supported a brutal dictatorship that was overthrown by The Sandinistas and Nicaragua had few options. He also stated accurately that there were some moderates in high places in The Sandinista government, this soon played itself out.
As for his comments on Castro, who also replaced a US puppet. Sanders stated that he had done some positive things like educating kids and making healthcare available to the poor. There's nothing bad, or even inaccurate in those statements.
We do have a not so proud history of supporting despots in Central America. I can point that out without supporting communism.
The senior Republican Senator from Utah, Oren Hatch, once said ''We shouldn't just kill everybody like We used to in Central America'', those comments were made after 9-11 when he was making a case for targeted assassinations of Muslim terrorist.

 

[oletex]

First off, Sanders does not support Putin, he lobbied for a coalition for sanctions against Russia. He simply has his own ideas on how to deal with them.
Second, this whole thing regarding Cuba and The Sandinistas comes from an interview he did 30 years ago after visiting Nicaragua. He accurately stated WE had supported a brutal dictatorship that was overthrown by The Sandinistas and Nicaragua had few options. He also stated accurately that there were some moderates in high places in The Sandinista government, this soon played itself out.
As for his comments on Castro, who also replaced a US puppet. Sanders stated that he had done some positive things like educating kids and making healthcare available to the poor. There's nothing bad, or even inaccurate in those statements.
We do have a not so proud history of supporting despots in Central America. I can point that out without supporting communism.
The senior Republican Senator from Utah, Oren Hatch, once said ''We shouldn't just kill everybody like We used to in Central America'', those comments were made after 9-11 when he was making a case for targeted assassinations of Muslim terrorist.

Well please allow me to share with you that in fact he and Putin share the same dream, that is their support of the Soviet Union being intact and a counter point to Nato. Putin dreams of restoring it and Sanders was absolutely gaga over the Communist Soviet Socialist Republic. If sharing the same dream is not support then damnation.

And no it did not come from an interview. It came from a trip to Nicaragua to celebrate the Sandinista regime and congratulate Daniel Ortega and his gang of Marxist hoodlums while they were jailing dissidents and making people disappear off the streets. Kidnapping and beating and shooting people without any due process. And your Bernie affirmed his aquiesence with his presence and several supporting interviews.....In Nicaragua! Oh, I'm sure there were people among the Sandinistas who were not as ready to murder the people who they felt didn't have their minds right and were reluctant to be deported to the countryside to harvest cane and live in collectives. Their always are. But the simple fact is those are not the people who crazy Bernie visited nor are they the ones who extended the invite. Cottonmouths are not as poisonous as rattlesnakes and they not as deadly as Cobras. So lets lay down with a nest of a mixture of them because some are cottonmouths and there are maybe even a copperhead or two among them. There are moderate snakes in the crowd.

And I can surely understand why you would equate Sen Oren Hatch to the murderous marxists who killed over 40 million citizens in Russia and the Soviet Union and over 50M of their own people in China. Not to mention the purges of say 5m each in places like Cambodia and Vietnam. Has Oren ever confessed? But you just go ahead and blame America which has been the last best hope of oppressed people of the world. Blame Oren Hatch who does support our constitutional Republic. Blame our military for standing up to murderous regimes in the world and protecting people like you who despise individual freedom because you may feel like you have been screwed somehow. That in a nutshell is where I am coming from, I love having the right to succeed or be a failure due to my lack of using judgement or be a self made idiot. Cause I own it either way. Folks like you can't own it due to your sense of not being able or willing to compete. Trust me the world will be a much darker place when and if you people bring the American middle class down and institute one party, government is your mom, dad, and maker and the tiny rulling elite knows best.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Well please allow me to share with you that in fact he and Putin share the same dream, that is their support of the Soviet Union being intact and a counter point to Nato. Putin dreams of restoring it and Sanders was absolutely gaga over the Communist Soviet Socialist Republic. If sharing the same dream is not support then damnation.

And no it did not come from an interview. It came from a trip to Nicaragua to celebrate the Sandinista regime and congratulate Daniel Ortega and his gang of Marxist hoodlums while they were jailing dissidents and making people disappear off the streets. Kidnapping and beating and shooting people without any due process. And your Bernie affirmed his aquiesence with his presence and several supporting interviews.....In Nicaragua! Oh, I'm sure there were people among the Sandinistas who were not as ready to murder the people who they felt didn't have their minds right and were reluctant to be deported to the countryside to harvest cane and live in collectives. Their always are. But the simple fact is those are not the people who crazy Bernie visited nor are they the ones who extended the invite. Cottonmouths are not as poisonous as rattlesnakes and they not as deadly as Cobras. So lets lay down with a nest of a mixture of them because some are cottonmouths and there are maybe even a copperhead or two among them. There are moderate snakes in the crowd.

And I can surely understand why you would equate Sen Oren Hatch to the murderous marxists who killed over 40 million citizens in Russia and the Soviet Union and over 50M of their own people in China. Not to mention the purges of say 5m each in places like Cambodia and Vietnam. Has Oren ever confessed? But you just go ahead and blame America which has been the last best hope of oppressed people of the world. Blame Oren Hatch who does support our constitutional Republic. Blame our military for standing up to murderous regimes in the world and protecting people like you who despise individual freedom because you may feel like you have been screwed somehow. That in a nutshell is where I am coming from, I love having the right to succeed or be a failure due to my lack of using judgement or be a self made idiot. Cause I own it either way. Folks like you can't own it due to your sense of not being able or willing to compete. Trust me the world will be a much darker place when and if you people bring the American middle class down and institute one party, government is your mom, dad, and maker and the tiny rulling elite knows best.

A lot of words with little fact. Sanders went to Nicaragua, Nixon went to China, both were diplomatic missions.
Your blathering nonsense is as vapid and empty as your ability to distinguish what goes on in your damaged mind and what is real.
It wasn't our military in Central America by the way, at least not for the most part. It was The CIA with the use of former military mercenaries, and THEY were as murderous as any enemy We've faced since WWII in many cases. It was naked gun boat diplomacy, and much worse.
Are You really ignorant of how many democratically elected leaders were ousted by The CIA and replaced by strong arm dictators who agreed to let US businesses run roughshod over their economies, land and workers ? They ousted 2 elected governments just in Nicaragua and installed dictators before The Sandinistas. Willful ignorance isn't really ignorance as much as it is dishonesty, in your case, I'm guessing you're dishonest with yourself.
If facts bother you, tough shit.

 

[FeralDawg]

I work with a guy from El Salvador who swears we very seriously DID just simply kill everyone in our way and meddle in the governments of all of those central American countries. Did I do it? Personally? No. But the fact that our current admin still has the gall to meddle in Cuba after all we know is crazy.
Do you personally support that? The left seems to think it's fantastic!
Even after the Castros said "We will take 95% of every American dollar spent in our country and the little guy will get hardly any".
They said it in public and are brazen because they know the rest of America can do NOTHING. This is a rule just like King George and you have to seriously hate
this country to think the rule of a king is fine. Our little colonies went to war with
a world power to avoid this crap.
So Barry says 'my pen and phone' and it's done. You good with that? Even though everything he's touched (investments in green energy, 1.6 Billion in ObamaCare money disappearing, foreign policy disasters) has led to nothing more than a continual fleecing of the US?
Have you started wondering yet why the interest rates still can't be raised?
Why no one other than the elites are better off than ever? If you really think we're good explain how what he's done has helped the American middle class. I just
can't see it. He telecasts that he will NOT work with the Pubs. Hell, Bubba wasn't that stupid. He got a lot from Newt and the boys. Barry is not gonna do what he was sent to Washington for.

 

[oletex]

A lot of words with little fact. Sanders went to Nicaragua, Nixon went to China, both were diplomatic missions.
Your blathering nonsense is as vapid and empty as your ability to distinguish what goes on in your damaged mind and what is real.
It wasn't our military in Central America by the way, at least not for the most part. It was The CIA with the use of former military mercenaries, and THEY were as murderous as any enemy We've faced since WWII in many cases. It was naked gun boat diplomacy, and much worse.
Are You really ignorant of how many democratically elected leaders were ousted by The CIA and replaced by strong arm dictators who agreed to let US businesses run roughshod over their economies, land and workers ? They ousted 2 elected governments just in Nicaragua and installed dictators before The Sandinistas. Willful ignorance isn't really ignorance as much as it is dishonesty, in your case, I'm guessing you're dishonest with yourself.
If facts bother you, tough shit.

LOL! Sanders slobbers all over commies because he is...you guessed it...a comm-u-nist. All your goofy attempts to insult are mindful of 16 year old teen girls in an internet squabble. So if that is not you then you might want to consider that. We are arguing politics here and that is the end of it. No more calling on people to meet you at the BP, hell you even got me mixed up in/with one of your meet and fight solutions. It ain't all that.

BTW, the American military has protected you and your right to be as ingenious or slovenly as your free will and drive will allow. In the far east, mideast, Europe, Hawaii, Alaska, Gulf of Mexico, the Atlantic seaboard and California Pacific coast and yes Russia. I'm unaware of any military ventures south of Cuba or in South America so where you came up with that I haven't a clue. No problem though. We were arguing your desire for big government, state owns everything, welfare solutions, everyone in government housing, socialism and communism, one party stamping out any dissent and disagreement vs my beloved individual freedom and yes free will of the human spirit choice.

You are so fervent in your statements and vitriol that I truly think you believe that stuff. It is popular among independents and republicans to believe that extreme leftists really don't believe it but maybe you do. If so that does confuse me. I have answers for any of your talking points but really believing that crap when given other choices like the free enterprise system, individual freedom and the best place in the world to live that lifestyle is confusing. People are generally selfish so the only answers I can come up with are you are a wannabe taker since you feel you didn't or couldn't get your fair share. That has been my position all the time. You have makers and takers. The makers like the system the way it is since they have something they have made. The takers are angry and want to take from the makers. They feel they have been screwed. Lots of minorities, poor, uneducated and some blue collar unions. And yes unmarried women and some who have fallen through the cracks. Some through no fault of their own. That's pretty much what I REALLY THINK! Since nothing else makes sense.

Oh another thing that confuses me is why the takers, including what appears to be you, would want to trade an almost perfect system where if you go your azz to work and dig, dig, dig you can get well off and if you choose to be a taker the welfare system makes it possible for you to survive. You see without big producers there is nothing to divide. All the communists systems in the world have starved themselves into some form of capitalism or went out of business or threw themselves to the mercy of capitalistic countries to survive. So why would you want that. Once you throw away the baby and the bath water there is nothing left. No freebie. It ain't like you're gonna get your condo at West Palm, your Bentley and country estate and vacation home in Cashiers. I mean it ain't happening. Some one really does have to pay for that stuff. And if we are all takers because we fired the makers nothing exists. I've seen that first hand since I was in the military in the 60's. Pitiful.

 

[HeulenHund2]

I work with a guy from El Salvador who swears we very seriously DID just simply kill everyone in our way and meddle in the governments of all of those central American countries. Did I do it? Personally? No. But the fact that our current admin still has the gall to meddle in Cuba after all we know is crazy.
Do you personally support that? The left seems to think it's fantastic!
Even after the Castros said "We will take 95% of every American dollar spent in our country and the little guy will get hardly any".
They said it in public and are brazen because they know the rest of America can do NOTHING. This is a rule just like King George and you have to seriously hate
this country to think the rule of a king is fine. Our little colonies went to war with
a world power to avoid this crap.
So Barry says 'my pen and phone' and it's done. You good with that? Even though everything he's touched (investments in green energy, 1.6 Billion in ObamaCare money disappearing, foreign policy disasters) has led to nothing more than a continual fleecing of the US?
Have you started wondering yet why the interest rates still can't be raised?
Why no one other than the elites are better off than ever? If you really think we're good explain how what he's done has helped the American middle class. I just
can't see it. He telecasts that he will NOT work with the Pubs. Hell, Bubba wasn't that stupid. He got a lot from Newt and the boys. Barry is not gonna do what he was sent to Washington for.

Obama is doing the opposite of meddling in Cuba. He's ending Our century plus long interference in their affairs.

 

[oletex]

Obama is doing the opposite of meddling in Cuba. He's ending Our century plus long interference in their affairs.

You're right. What business is it of ours if Russia gives them or stations nuclear miss 90 miles away and Castro was imploring him to use them during that crisis. Or that Castro invited The Soviets to put a half million troops there. What business is it of ours if Castro releases and puts on boats a half million murderers, rapists, thieves, drug dealers, mentally ill, aides ridden and terminally unemployed and dumps them on us? What does it concern us if Castro allows South American drug dealers to use the Island as a jumping off post to America with their drug loads. And more. You are either acting or confirming something. I really don't believe you are a simple minded person. So come on.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

Site a post arguing in support of a communist state..EVER.
This is the straw man of straw men, jousting air, there isn't even a windmill to joust.
I'm not sure if there is a Democratic Socialist who supports Sanders for POTUS who posts here, but confusing Bernie's politics with communism is just plain silly.

He's endorced communist policies . And so you don't endorce him...what about the corrupt skank Hillary....same thing

 

[HeulenHund2]

He's endorced communist policies . And so you don't endorce him...what about the corrupt skank Hillary....same thing

I don't endorse any of the 2016 candidates, I'm not sure If I'll vote, but I'd have to vote for Hillary over any in the Republican field if I did vote. Donald Trump leading shows just how FUBAR that party is right now.

 

[HeulenHund2]

You're right. What business is it of ours if Russia gives them or stations nuclear miss 90 miles away and Castro was imploring him to use them during that crisis. Or that Castro invited The Soviets to put a half million troops there. What business is it of ours if Castro releases and puts on boats a half million murderers, rapists, thieves, drug dealers, mentally ill, aides ridden and terminally unemployed and dumps them on us? What does it concern us if Castro allows South American drug dealers to use the Island as a jumping off post to America with their drug loads. And more. You are either acting or confirming something. I really don't believe you are a simple minded person. So come on.

Our gun boat policies in Cuba pre-dated Castro by 80 years. We didn't plot against Castro because he was with The Soviets. He brought in The Soviets after going to Washington to try to strike a pact and being turned away.
In his world the mightiest power on Earth was 90 miles off shore and wanted to kill him.
It's really the same thing that was going on all over Latin America.

 

[oletex]

Our gun boat policies in Cuba pre-dated Castro by 80 years. We didn't plot against Castro because he was with The Soviets. He brought in The Soviets after going to Washington to try to strike a pact and being turned away.
In his world the mightiest power on Earth was 90 miles off shore and wanted to kill him.
It's really the same thing that was going on all over Latin America.

So as usual it's all America's fault with you lefties. YAWNNNNNN. America's military,, blah, blah, blah. We should be more like the Soviets, and send in the tanks like they did in the sixties and seventies and recently in Georgia and Ukraine and helping their barrel dropping buddy, Syria's Chemical Ali, finish his genocide. Along with their allies the Cuban army and the Iranian army.

Lookit. You are a confirmed leftist and want some sort of revenge against America and the people who have made it the greatest country for freedom loving people on earth and you can't help yourself. That much is clear. One other thing is clear: you nor any of the millions upon millions who have lived in this great land and have zero clue as to how good you've got it are not going to EVER be among the very few elite rulers of the big government takeover if and when it happens here. Your circumstances will be much, much worse as the gap between the ultra rich and the commoners will explode even more than it has under Obama. That gap has absolutely doubled or even tripled under BO. You are being conned by people who want ultimate power. Do you not know why rates have remained at near zero? So the George Soros' and the wall street bankers can gain billions and billions for themselves and Obama is in their pocket. The middle class who is the benefactor of the poor and less fortunate are under seige. And disappearing. That was where the money was, not among the rich during America's heyday. They build small businesses and employ the underclass and all boats rise. Everyone gets a washing machine and a Chevrolet. But the struggle for control is now and has been between the middle class and the ultra rich for control of the wealth of America. And the ultra rich have manipulated you and are using you to get it ALL! They want a society of elites and the vast population equally poor. Drain the middle class of the wealth is job 1. Then control you with government benefits and little government jobs. Like the famous saying in Russia: the government pretends to pay us and we pretend to work. The same way they have destroyed inner city blacks by enslaving them to the dem party. How has that worked out?

Oh and btw, only the crazed and frankly insanity we saw last week on the debate stage can save someone like D Trump. Sanders, Hillary and O'Mally have somehow managed to make him appear more normal and responsible. By seeing his rhetoric and raising him x 100! Adding $18 trillion to the national debt in one small move to give everybody free stuff. Laughfreakingoutloud! You poor, gullible people.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

I don't endorse any of the 2016 candidates, I'm not sure If I'll vote, but I'd have to vote for Hillary over any in the Republican field if I did vote. Donald Trump leading shows just how FUBAR that party is right now.

LOL oh that's priceless...sez the guy who "would" vote for Hillary Clinton.

 

[Fivehade]

biggest moonbat thread ever

 

[HeulenHund2]

So as usual it's all America's fault with you lefties. YAWNNNNNN. America's military,, blah, blah, blah. We should be more like the Soviets, and send in the tanks like they did in the sixties and seventies and recently in Georgia and Ukraine and helping their barrel dropping buddy, Syria's Chemical Ali, finish his genocide. Along with their allies the Cuban army and the Iranian army.

Lookit. You are a confirmed leftist and want some sort of revenge against America and the people who have made it the greatest country for freedom loving people on earth and you can't help yourself. That much is clear. One other thing is clear: you nor any of the millions upon millions who have lived in this great land and have zero clue as to how good you've got it are not going to EVER be among the very few elite rulers of the big government takeover if and when it happens here. Your circumstances will be much, much worse as the gap between the ultra rich and the commoners will explode even more than it has under Obama. That gap has absolutely doubled or even tripled under BO. You are being conned by people who want ultimate power. Do you not know why rates have remained at near zero? So the George Soros' and the wall street bankers can gain billions and billions for themselves and Obama is in their pocket. The middle class who is the benefactor of the poor and less fortunate are under seige. And disappearing. That was where the money was, not among the rich during America's heyday. They build small businesses and employ the underclass and all boats rise. Everyone gets a washing machine and a Chevrolet. But the struggle for control is now and has been between the middle class and the ultra rich for control of the wealth of America. And the ultra rich have manipulated you and are using you to get it ALL! They want a society of elites and the vast population equally poor. Drain the middle class of the wealth is job 1. Then control you with government benefits and little government jobs. Like the famous saying in Russia: the government pretends to pay us and we pretend to work. The same way they have destroyed inner city blacks by enslaving them to the dem party. How has that worked out?

Oh and btw, only the crazed and frankly insanity we saw last week on the debate stage can save someone like D Trump. Sanders, Hillary and O'Mally have somehow managed to make him appear more normal and responsible. By seeing his rhetoric and raising him x 100! Adding $18 trillion to the national debt in one small move to give everybody free stuff. Laughfreakingoutloud! You poor, gullible people.

I love America, I hate when it's bought by moneyed and fraternal interest to do it's bidding, especially when that bidding is as Un-American as it has been so many times in Latin America.
You're either a dupe or You're ok with deposing one elected government after another, murdering workers and others who just wanted out from under the yoke of United Fruit and others who used our flag and the power it held for profiteering poor agrarian workers, I'm not.
There was no greatness in beating down poor farmers and their leaders in the name of higher profits for international companies. If you believe there was..you're a damn fool or an amoral waste of space.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

I love America, I hate when it's bought by moneyed and fraternal interest to do it's bidding, especially when that bidding is as Un-American as it has been so many times in Latin America.
You're either a dupe or You're ok with deposing one elected government after another, murdering workers and others who just wanted out from under the yoke of United Fruit and others who used our flag and the power it held for profiteering poor agrarian workers, I'm not.
There was no greatness in beating down poor farmers and their leaders in the name of higher profits for international companies. If you believe there was..you're a damn fool or an amoral waste of space.

WTF you talking bout willis? Murdering workes? profiteering on poor agrarian workers"? LOL someone is using a thesaurus

 

[HeulenHund2]

WTF you talking bout willis? Murdering workes? profiteering on poor agrarian workers"? LOL someone is using a thesaurus

Someone is fairly well educated in old school ways. I can't work links on a computer, but I can THINK.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

Someone is fairly well educated in old school ways. I can't work links on a computer, but I can THINK.

Maybe....But I've yet to see evidence of it...

 

[HeulenHund2]

Maybe....But I've yet to see evidence of it...

I've seen plenty of evidence of your cartoonish thinking.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

I've seen plenty of evidence of your cartoonish thinking.

Well of course you have....you function in bizarro world

 

[HeulenHund2]

Maybe....But I've yet to see evidence of it...

I've seen plenty of evidence of your cartoonish thinking.

Well of course you have....you function in bizarro world

Only when I read your silliness.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

I've seen plenty of evidence of your cartoonish thinking.


Only when I read your silliness.

Again,...of course you do. I live in Realville and you live at 1600 Moronslyvania Ave

 

[HeulenHund2]

Again,...of course you do. I live in Realville and you live at 1600 Moronslyvania Ave

You live in Ignorantville, at the corner of Angry and Moron.

 

[oletex]

WTF you talking bout willis? Murdering workes? profiteering on poor agrarian workers"? LOL someone is using a thesaurus

When he get's excited he fires in all directions Rolo. He got into it with a guy then invited him to meet and fight at the BP. There's a hell of a joke there someplace. I didn't log back on til the next day. Immediately he fires off an insult asking why I didn't show or at least agree to show at the BP! Understanding I was never in the falling out he had with some poster. I'm glad the guy is pro-gun control. I think I shall ignore him from this point on.

 

[HeulenHund2]

When he get's excited he fires in all directions Rolo. He got into it with a guy then invited him to meet and fight at the BP. There's a hell of a joke there someplace. I didn't log back on til the next day. Immediately he fires off an insult asking why I didn't show or at least agree to show at the BP! Understanding I was never in the falling out he had with some poster. I'm glad the guy is pro-gun control. I think I shall ignore him from this point on.

If you have any sense at all, which is doubtful, you should recall You commented you'd ''like to meet me'' in context it was clear what you meant. I then pulled the old joke of meeting you at the BP station of your choice. Who knows, maybe the ankle high joke went over your tiny head.

 

[CountryClubDawg]

If you have any sense at all, which is doubtful, you should recall You commented you'd ''like to meet me'' in context it was clear what you meant. I then pulled the old joke of meeting you at the BP station of your choice. Who knows, maybe the ankle high joke went over your tiny head.

It was me who cordially invited you over to my tailgate for a "beer summit", joking around. You joked back to meet you at the BP. I took it as all good fun. Y'all relax and a good back and forth.

Now back on topic.

 

[HeulenHund2]

It was me who cordially invited you over to my tailgate for a "beer summit", joking around. You joked back to meet you at the BP. I took it as all good fun. Y'all relax and a good back and forth.

Now back on topic.

It was meant in good fun on this end as well.

 

[oletex]

If you have any sense at all, which is doubtful, you should recall You commented you'd ''like to meet me'' in context it was clear what you meant. I then pulled the old joke of meeting you at the BP station of your choice. Who knows, maybe the ankle high joke went over your tiny head.

No, Helen. That is my point. Twas not me who made that post. LOL! Was some guy I believe who said something about driving a big F series pickup. You and he swapped threats. The thread is likely still around. You have too many demons in your head son. Slow down.

 

[CountryClubDawg]

No, Helen. That is my point. Twas not me who made that post. LOL! Was some guy I believe who said something about driving a big F series pickup. You and he swapped threats. The thread is likely still around. You have too many demons in your head son. Slow down.

Relax, fcpup! It was me. We were joking around. I don't even live in Georgia any more. I'm at least 6 hours away from Athens and have no intention of driving my F-350 over there for a game. I just like giving Heulen a hard time because he can take it and gives it back. It's all good.

With this new format it is extremely easy to carry a conversation with someone, so see a couple post above where Heulen and I already resolved your issue. Do we need another beer summit?

 

[oletex]

Relax, fcpup! It was me. We were joking around. I don't even live in Georgia any more. I'm at least 6 hours away from Athens and have no intention of driving my F-350 over there for a game. I just like giving Heulen a hard time because he can take it and gives it back. It's all good.

With this new format it is extremely easy to carry a conversation with someone, so see a couple post above where Heulen and I already resolved your issue. Do we need another beer summit?

I'm pretty relaxed. Retired. Mostly walk to the mail box for a living anymore. I do this for entertainment and got some laughs out of the back and forth. I can only imagine 2 stumbling goobers getting it on @ a BP. LOL! Ain't happening. But our friend is good for a shebang a day it seems. I just happened to do a drive by and he assumed I was you and ambushed. Excuse me for being cautious with a guy who (his words) never throws the first lick but has thrown the last one many times. Sounds like a serious guy to me.

 

[HeulenHund2]

I'm pretty relaxed. Retired. Mostly walk to the mail box for a living anymore. I do this for entertainment and got some laughs out of the back and forth. I can only imagine 2 stumbling goobers getting it on @ a BP. LOL! Ain't happening. But our friend is good for a shebang a day it seems. I just happened to do a drive by and he assumed I was you and ambushed. Excuse me for being cautious with a guy who (his words) never throws the first lick but has thrown the last one many times. Sounds like a serious guy to me.

I'm pretty relaxed. Retired. Mostly walk to the mail box for a living anymore. I do this for entertainment and got some laughs out of the back and forth. I can only imagine 2 stumbling goobers getting it on @ a BP. LOL! Ain't happening. But our friend is good for a shebang a day it seems. I just happened to do a drive by and he assumed I was you and ambushed. Excuse me for being cautious with a guy who (his words) never throws the first lick but has thrown the last one many times. Sounds like a serious guy to me.

I've licked ole Col Ingus a time or 2, but it was, I trust, a mutually enjoyable expiration of energies for both parties. Other than that, I've grown docile as a baby bunny in recent years.