I read it. So he hopes to isolate China. They are certainly not isolated now. We are isolating ourselves. Lol
Maybe it works out.
1) Now a 10% tariff looks like a "good deal". 2) China is isolated.....
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Maybe it works out.
I don’t know if I believe this post, but to think that other countries will not listen when China speaks is foolish.
They will.
This is why you need to surround yourself with people who will challenge your ideas, rather than sycophants.
What exactly is “winning” looking like? I’d love a clear answer from anyone. Because our stock market has lots trillions, inflation is about to tick up, mortgages are still high, like what are we doing?
Yeah. Trump could easily eff up the entire world order for the next 100 years.
It seems his acolytes have forgotten that WE created the existing world order and it benefits US. This next version will not be fits us as much I’m sure.
U.S. Plans to Use Tariff Negotiations to Isolate China — The Wall Street Journal
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent wants trading partners to limit China’s involvement in their economies in exchange for concessions on reciprocal tariffs
apple.news
Plans were better when you didn’t just piss off the entire world. I give about a 0% chance of this happening.U.S. Plans to Use Tariff Negotiations to Isolate China — The Wall Street Journal
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent wants trading partners to limit China’s involvement in their economies in exchange for concessions on reciprocal tariffsapple.news
Germany sending billions to Russia for fuel and then billions to Ukraine to fight the evil tyrant is a head scratcher. The EU dealing with China and blocking out the US? These are our "allies"? The left's anger at Trump for placing tariffs on our "allies" is a little misplaced.
If liking or not liking Trump was the deciding factor in dealing with the US…..you would be right. But economic / defense realities exist…..creating leverage. Combine this with the fact that it is universally known that China is a bad actor in trade……
World leaders act on behalf of their citizans…..not their like or dislike of Trump. As it should be. It is what makes him an effective negotiator. Leverage is the key. Not popularity.
Not really. Germany dramatically reduced their gas purchases from Russia from like 65% prior to the Ukraine war. It's hard to cut that to 0%, but they buy substantially less than before the war. Something like 10% or so now.
The EU was our 'ally', but Trump has decidedly broke and trust or goodwill there.
EU looks to be closing in on a deal with US to buy more LNG from us…..and less from Russia.
He was an asshole in the first term also. Nothing new. Now they are ramping up defense production and reconsidering their green energy policies to buy more from us. A good result….following being pissed about Trump words. Rinse. And repeat.
The US is a non-reliable partner now for the next 3.5 years. Untrustworthy and unpredictable. So while China may not be the first choice of our former allies, they represent the best alternative in many instances and much of our former trade will be replaced by China during Trump's term.
Let it play out. You can bump when the EU shuns the US in favor of Communist China. I won’t hold my breath.
They are only importing liquid natural gas from the US, which is still not a significant % of natural gas use.
Anything that moves the needle towards the US economy and away from Russia / China is a win, no? At worst it represents leverage in the Ukraine discussion w Russia, and trade discussion with China.
Horse shat. The U.S. terms are clear attainable. Yeah, piglets squeal when the sow knocks them off the teat but that doesn't mean the piglets (even though mad) won't start eating out of spite. The EU and our other luke warm allies know they had a pie in the sky deal before and they know they can still have a great deal if they want one with the U.S.. Iows, no American should be happy that we've been subsidizing their social programs by providing discounted defense, allowing them to restrict our products without returning the favor and dealing with the tyrants that we are paying to keep in check.
Trump broke their trust and goodwill with us? They depend on us for defense and few ever pay their share. And while we are protecting them from Russia they send billions to the Russians for fuel and put unfair restrictions on our goods. They then raise hell when we want to tariff them back. Not sure who broke the trust but it was broken before 2025.
