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correct, if there had been anything that was truly a threat, the fbi would have been called in long ago. It doesn’t make sense that they would have waiting this long if it was meaningful, and if it was, then the govt is at fault for their procrastination of retrieving.
The first subpoena was four months after Biden's inauguration. They gave Trump, an ex-President of the United States, every courtesy to comply. He kicked them in the nuts. They went to get the stuff. /howhardisthistounderstand
 
The first subpoena was four months after Biden's inauguration. They gave Trump, an ex-President of the United States, every courtesy to comply. He kicked them in the nuts. They went to get the stuff. /howhardisthistounderstand

yeah after how many months? 18 or so? Lol. Yeah sounds like some really high level nuke code spy shit to me. The fact they waited so long along with the fact they took so many non-related documents makes it evident they were fishing for Jan 6. The fact they waited so long proves it was of no concern. But keep dreaming.
 
its too early to make too many judgements on this raid,.. but certainly by now the FBI and DOJ have very little credibility,...

Hunter Biden will never be prosecuted just because,

But 2 people that found Ashley Bidens diary abandoned in a half-way house get 5 years in jail, one of the biggest crimes was crossing state line with a diary,...
 
The excuses have run out on why DJT had these documents. I’m not sure what the defense can be. And before anyone says Hillary’s emails. Both things can be wrong. This is what happens when you stay centered and can look at both sides of the aisle.
Doesn’t have to explain if he declassified them. Witch hunt as usual. They will charge him with something because they can. FBI is corrupt toward Republicans and has been for years. Completely sold out to Dems. It’s pathetic.
 
Highly redacted, as you would expect.

Likely the most substantive information that isn't redacted is regarding the level of classification of the documents that Trump had in his possession. We are talking extremely sensitive documents, including related to human intelligence, I.e. spies.



This makes the breaking story regarding a russian speaking woman who claimed to be a Rothchild (and isn't) who ingratiate herself with Trump and crowd at MAL that much more concerning. Tough day for DJT.



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Now this could be interesting (or possibly nothing). Trump has filed a motion to not allow the FBI to read any material that was taken that was not the sensitive information sought by the FBI. It was reported that the sensitive information was intermingled with other documents. There may be many reasons why Trump doesn’t want the other information read but to put it in the actual motion is something.

 
Now this could be interesting (or possibly nothing). Trump has filed a motion to not allow the FBI to read any material that was taken that was not the sensitive information sought by the FBI. It was reported that the sensitive information was intermingled with other documents. There may be many reasons why Trump doesn’t want the other information read but to put it in the actual motion is something.

I’m also intrigued to know what his notes were written on docs.
 
common sense?
We are talking about a man who said
"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?

"So it'd be interesting to check that."
Pointing to his head, Mr Trump went on: "I'm not a doctor. But I'm, like, a person that has a good you-know-what."
Do I really need to start quoting Biden? Has he been able to put sentences together yet. Or Kamala. Is she still butchering the English language. “Corn pop was a bad man”. Your tds is showing. I could continue. But I wouldn’t be able to stop repeating stupid shit biden has said until sometime next week.
 
The first subpoena was four months after Biden's inauguration. They gave Trump, an ex-President of the United States, every courtesy to comply. He kicked them in the nuts. They went to get the stuff. /howhardisthistounderstand
How hard is it for you to understand urgency?
 
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Do I really need to start quoting Biden? Has he been able to put sentences together yet. Or Kamala. Is she still butchering the English language. “Corn pop was a bad man”. Your tds is showing. I could continue. But I wouldn’t be able to stop repeating stupid shit biden has said until sometime next week.

quote him all day long. Doesn’t change the passage above and trump and docs he shouldn’t have are the topics at hand.
 
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I just hope that whenever the next power swing occurs, there is MASSIVE revenge taken out against the left or anyone associated with them. I’m talking cut throat stuff that crumbles their families and lives.
 
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I just hope that whenever the next power swing occurs, there is MASSIVE revenge taken out against the left or anyone associated with them. I’m talking cut throat stuff that crumbles their families and lives.
So you believe Trump had a right to take and refuse to return multiple boxes of government documents, including very highly classified material? What’s the FBI supposed to do, ask for the documents back a fourth time and say pretty please?
 
At some point, information about the classified documents will be leaked or come out in a court case. I think we will have a better idea at that point on what he wanted to do with the documents. If he had information that could blow the cover of intelligence assets around the world or information on our weapons systems, this is going to get really bad (well, worse than it is now).
 
We really really really really really really [takes deep breath] really got him this time guys.

Why are some people so desperate to take 45 down over something, anything? Doesn't matter what the crime, he's got to be guilty at some point, right?

I've been saying I expect 45 to be arrested by October, possibly in September, but in time to wreck Republicans before November. What happens after that is the mystery.

Of course, the hunt keeps people distracted from the coming financial collapse. Let's ignore stuff that matters like scarcity of goods, hyper inflation, reduction of rights, new government controls, and other things that truly apply to all of us. DC is still trying to force a Covid-19 vaccine mandate for students 12 and up with no remote learning option.

Nah, it's not good enough to beat 45 at the ballot box, he's the single greatest threat to democracy on the planet even as a private citizen. Our corrupt and inept government is just fine.

Stay tuned.
 
deflection. Both are wrong.
correct, if there had been anything that was truly a threat, the fbi would have been called in long ago. It doesn’t make sense that they would have waiting this long if it was meaningful, and if it was, then the govt is at fault for their procrastination of retrieving.

they don’t even GAS about those papers. The president had plenary powers to do as he wished anyway. BTW, Hillary was not president ever and had none of those privileges. This is all about one thing once you read the warrant which gave the fbi such broad authority. They were fishing. They want something connecting him to Jan 6. That’s what this is about.

it is entertaining watching these dems get their hopes up though. Will end as it always does for them when they set their sights on trump. Every time they screw with him, he gets more popular and garners more support. I don’t get it, like that superhero that gets stronger the more he’s attacked. 3 months ago I thought trump was about done but the dems brought him back to life.
Agreed, He may be the only person that can clean up Bidens screw ups. His personality is not my favorite, but he says what he means and means what he says. Everyone in the world knows That. He is a big stick.
 
We really really really really really really [takes deep breath] really got him this time guys.

Why are some people so desperate to take 45 down over something, anything? Doesn't matter what the crime, he's got to be guilty at some point, right?

I've been saying I expect 45 to be arrested by October, possibly in September, but in time to wreck Republicans before November. What happens after that is the mystery.

Of course, the hunt keeps people distracted from the coming financial collapse. Let's ignore stuff that matters like scarcity of goods, hyper inflation, reduction of rights, new government controls, and other things that truly apply to all of us. DC is still trying to force a Covid-19 vaccine mandate for students 12 and up with no remote learning option.

Nah, it's not good enough to beat 45 at the ballot box, he's the single greatest threat to democracy on the planet even as a private citizen. Our corrupt and inept government is just fine.

Stay tuned.
Who created the financial crisis and everything else that’s going on this country. Biden, the socialis.
 
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We really really really really really really [takes deep breath] really got him this time guys.

Why are some people so desperate to take 45 down over something, anything? Doesn't matter what the crime, he's got to be guilty at some point, right?

I've been saying I expect 45 to be arrested by October, possibly in September, but in time to wreck Republicans before November. What happens after that is the mystery.

Of course, the hunt keeps people distracted from the coming financial collapse. Let's ignore stuff that matters like scarcity of goods, hyper inflation, reduction of rights, new government controls, and other things that truly apply to all of us. DC is still trying to force a Covid-19 vaccine mandate for students 12 and up with no remote learning option.

Nah, it's not good enough to beat 45 at the ballot box, he's the single greatest threat to democracy on the planet even as a private citizen. Our corrupt and inept government is just fine.

Stay tuned.
Y'all need to cut The Donald some slack.

He just wanted to steal a few souvenirs from the White House, to remind him that he used to be President of the United States, to comfort him in his old age.
 
quote him all day long. Doesn’t change the passage above and trump and docs he shouldn’t have are the topics at hand.
We both know this is just a mid term magic trick. Look away from the cluster f you guys have created. I wish they would leave trump alone. He would probably go away. You guys are like a moth to a flame. Not a thing will happen here. And you have done nothing but weaponize the three letter divisions of the government now for political gain. Desperate to hold on to both houses. Which you just might. So you can plunge us into even a deeper and darker hole. The timing of this along with the hearings is hilarious. And you guys can’t get enough. I am sure you will reply, but trump f’ed my mom. And he did bad things. And deserves to burn in hell etc. Please don’t respond about the dumb policies and ridiculous mistakes this admin has made. Hiding Kamala and Biden as much as they can. As a country we are a laughing stock. Don’t address any of that. Just keep on with your trump addiction. (Did you enjoy that stock market plunge yesterday. In response to the inflation bill, which is going to make inflation worse. Haha. How can you support your elected morons. Will they ever do one thing right?)
 
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I can’t wait until the Repubs come back kick everyone’s asses. All you silly, liberal, baby-killing lunatics. Gonna be hell to pay. Bunch a damn crazy socialists gonna get what they wanted. ‘Elections have consequences.’ To quote another asshat
 
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I can’t wait until the Repubs come back kick everyone’s asses.
That is the sticky thing to me. If you are a proponent of the rule of law, you don't correct corruption by ignoring the rule of law and going on a vendetta. Iows, I don't want Biden's or Obama's attorneys shaken down in a fishing expedition. I simply want a new congress to practice competent, effective oversight over the fed agencies and an executive branch that fires admins that unlawfully obstructs legal proceedings and or breaks laws while being in charge of enforcing the law.

Iows, the fact that Eric Holder was able to tell congress to pound sand and ignore subpoenas and Brennan and Clapper could lie their asses off doesn't mean I want Pubs or DJT officials to be able to do the same. If congress has a right to issues subpoenas, I want the subjects to either testify and be held accountable if they commit perjury or to legally quash the subpoena. It's a tough deal to be sure but I'm not interested in voting for one group of tyrants to replace another group of tyrants.
 
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We both know this is just a mid term magic trick. Look away from the cluster f you guys have created. I wish they would leave trump alone. He would probably go away. You guys are like a moth to a flame. Not a thing will happen here. And you have done nothing but weaponize the three letter divisions of the government now for political gain. Desperate to hold on to both houses. Which you just might. So you can plunge us into even a deeper and darker hole. The timing of this along with the hearings is hilarious. And you guys can’t get enough. I am sure you will reply, but trump f’ed my mom. And he did bad things. And deserves to burn in hell etc. Please don’t respond about the dumb policies and ridiculous mistakes this admin has made. Hiding Kamala and Biden as much as they can. As a country we are a laughing stock. Don’t address any of that. Just keep on with your trump addiction. (Did you enjoy that stock market plunge yesterday. In response to the inflation bill, which is going to make inflation worse. Haha. How can you support your elected morons. Will they ever do one thing right?)
What is really funny is if anyone points out Trumps ignorance you are automatically a Democrat. Trump is a dumbass who can't get out of his own way. Before you reply with your "TDS" nonsense I've never voted for a Democrat to be president.

It may be hard for you to understand but some people aren't so blinded by their politics they are still capable of an objective thought.
 
What is really funny is if anyone points out Trumps ignorance you are automatically a Democrat. Trump is a dumbass who can't get out of his own way. Before you reply with your "TDS" nonsense I've never voted for a Democrat to be president.

It may be hard for you to understand but some people aren't so blinded by their politics they are still capable of an objective thought.

THIS,
 
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What is really funny is if anyone points out Trumps ignorance you are automatically a Democrat. Trump is a dumbass who can't get out of his own way. Before you reply with your "TDS" nonsense I've never voted for a Democrat to be president.

It may be hard for you to understand but some people aren't so blinded by their politics they are still capable of an objective thought.
You won’t let him go. So he can go away. That is my point. It is a sickness for most democrats. It is every post. Three fourths of the threads here are about him. It is tds. Those are the numbers and the facts. If he did it and gets in trouble so be it. But we all know what this is. You do too. Right now if you throw in on the other side. You have to be a Democrat. Or just an idiot. Until you talk about someone else. What do you want me to call it. You prove my point with every post about him.
 
I still think it was a trap.

At some point the FBI and DOJ are going to have to show their hand or let it go (like Hillary).

If these documents included nuclear intel that puts us all at risk then why has the response been so slow?

Given that every attempt to take down Trump from 2 impeachments to a TV miniseries on J6, why be discrete on this one issue?

Someone has something to hide. Why?

By confiscating the documents the DOJ is going to have to finish the drill, right? Let's get to it.

What’s in the boxes?
What’s in the boxes? Old Playboys.
 
What is really funny is if anyone points out Trumps ignorance you are automatically a Democrat. Trump is a dumbass who can't get out of his own way. Before you reply with your "TDS" nonsense I've never voted for a Democrat to be president.

It may be hard for you to understand but some people aren't so blinded by their politics they are still capable of an objective thought.

Fake news. I have seen Trump personally criticized by virtually every "conservative" poster on the chat. (I'm not a Pub or conservative for that matter) He's been criticized for his personal behavior and mean tweets, etc. He's been criticized by some for supporting a 2 state solution and not knowing when it's time to shut up and let surrogates to the dirty, heavy lifting. He's been criticized for spitballing in public settings when the words of a POTUS are too important for him to ramble in public. And yes, many if not most Trump supporters I know and or see posting here aren't happy that Trump was the guy carrying the banner for America first policies.

I have also seen and agree with the idea that IF a crime was committed and an investigation led to Trump, he should face the SAME penalties anyone else in the same situation would face. However, I do believe that from the beginning he was targeted by forces that are required by law or the ethical standards in their profession to remain non partisan and that is more dangerous to our republic than anything a single former POTUS can accomplish. We're either a nation of laws where EVERYONE is afforded equal protection under the law and the free press operates according to journalistic standards or we're something else where the FBI asks private media to suppress facts in order to ensure a preferred candidate wins an election. I think what you and many others fail to realize is the support for Trump really isn't support for Trump the man or POTUS but support for the guy that is fighting what we believe is systemic corruption in our fed gov.
 
What is really funny is if anyone points out Trumps ignorance you are automatically a Democrat. Trump is a dumbass who can't get out of his own way. Before you reply with your "TDS" nonsense I've never voted for a Democrat to be president.

It may be hard for you to understand but some people aren't so blinded by their politics they are still capable of an objective thought.
All I said was you have tds. You said you were a democrat. Plenty of non democrats call out trump. I call him out regularly. But to do that without also pointing out what is currently going on with the actual president makes it hard to believe you aren’t a dem.
 
What is really funny is if anyone points out Trumps ignorance you are automatically a Democrat. Trump is a dumbass who can't get out of his own way. Before you reply with your "TDS" nonsense I've never voted for a Democrat to be president.

It may be hard for you to understand but some people aren't so blinded by their politics they are still capable of an objective thought.
Give me a post about how the country is doing. Without a mention of trump. Just because I want to focus on the actual president, And the current problems. Novel concept right. I am blinded by politics. But the folks with pitchforks going after someone who can’t hurt you anymore are the ones seeing clearly. Sure. Makes sense.
 
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What is really funny is if anyone points out Trumps ignorance you are automatically a Democrat. Trump is a dumbass who can't get out of his own way. Before you reply with your "TDS" nonsense I've never voted for a Democrat to be president.

It may be hard for you to understand but some people aren't so blinded by their politics they are still capable of an objective thought.
Pretty sure that everybody has done “dumbass” things before. But I certainly wouldn’t describe him as being a “dumbass”.
 
Fake news. I have seen Trump personally criticized by virtually every "conservative" poster on the chat. (I'm not a Pub or conservative for that matter) He's been criticized for his personal behavior and mean tweets, etc. He's been criticized by some for supporting a 2 state solution and not knowing when it's time to shut up and let surrogates to the dirty, heavy lifting. He's been criticized for spitballing in public settings when the words of a POTUS are too important for him to ramble in public. And yes, many if not most Trump supporters I know and or see posting here aren't happy that Trump was the guy carrying the banner for America first policies.

I have also seen and agree with the idea that IF a crime was committed and an investigation led to Trump, he should face the SAME penalties anyone else in the same situation would face. However, I do believe that from the beginning he was targeted by forces that are required by law or the ethical standards in their profession to remain non partisan and that is more dangerous to our republic than anything a single former POTUS can accomplish. We're either a nation of laws where EVERYONE is afforded equal protection under the law and the free press operates according to journalistic standards or we're something else where the FBI asks private media to suppress facts in order to ensure a preferred candidate wins an election. I think what you and many others fail to realize is the support for Trump really isn't support for Trump the man or POTUS but support for the guy that is fighting what we believe is systemic corruption in our fed gov.
DHD, you left out "he's been criticized for trying to overthrow the United States government."
 
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Pretty sure that everybody has done “dumbass” things before. But I certainly wouldn’t describe him as being a “dumbass”.
Well... he lost to Joe Biden. Without his self inflicted wounds he wins pretty easily I believe. There is a fair amount of stupidity involved in that as well I'd say.
 
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Well... he lost to Joe Biden. Without his self inflicted wounds he wins pretty easily I believe. There is a fair amount of stupidity involved in that as well I'd say.
He did say some stupid things as all presidents Do. He lost primarily because of election corruption. In 15-20 big dem counties. It’s undeniable.
 
So you believe Trump had a right to take and refuse to return multiple boxes of government documents, including very highly classified material? What’s the FBI supposed to do, ask for the documents back a fourth time and say pretty please?

Retired FBI boss disassembles Trump search warrant: Feds ‘going to regret this’​

Retired Assistant Director Kevin Brock says FBI didn't exhaust other means or appear to have established probable cause for search.

https://justthenews.com/politics-po...-chief-raid-trump-home-i-think-they-are-going
 
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