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Andrew Jackson said it best about secession and treason...

Did you just say that?

You really have no clue, do you? It is what you want to believe or it fits something you want to prove.

No, it didn't end and still goes on today in Africa. It is part of the African culture. It is vicious and cruel. The U.S., the CSA, didn't start slavery of Africans, it participated in it starting in the 1600's. The largest percentage of slave owners were in the north. The first slave bought on our soil was by a black Angolan man, not a white man. Per capita, more slaves were bought and owned by freed slaves than by white people. Less than 4% pf the white population in the south owned slaves.

Honestly man, do some research and stop seeking out just those that you want to believe. Agenda bends history. Just read history and listen to what those people were saying then. The people that lived then.

Slavery was an abomination. And slavery as we knew it then is over in this country.

So is abortion, but of course, killing a human being in that case is a choice.

If you throw me some facts, I will continue. Otherwise, I am threw discussing your opinion with you.
Honestly all you're doing is forming weird logical strawmen and just repeating them over and over again on the smallest slivers of truth , which you them exploit toward propping up some ignorant theme

Go ahead and stay ignorant all you want
 
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Not really an opinion...its truth ....the civil war was fought over the enslavement of human beings, which ended because of the war being lost by the enslavers...funny how you insert YOUR opinion and ignore those of the people that were there, fighting a war to end slavery

Because no one north of the Mason-Dixon Line had slaves...and the fact that Grant didn't release his slaves until 1869 (because "good help is hard to find"...his words) is just something we can sweep under the rug because he's a solid dude...
 
Honestly all you're doing is forming weird logical strawmen and just repeating them over and over again on the smallest slivers of truth , which you them exploit toward propping up some ignorant theme

Go ahead and stay ignorant all you want

I have introduced actual quotes from that era from men who lived it. I have given factual info with references.

You give opinion based on what you want as truth and what some liberal history teacher brainwashed you into believing.

And somehow, I am the one making this stuff up......

You have always had a liberal slant social. You can't concede any point, fact or not, if it doesn't agree with you. What is up with that?

I am done. All these folks have all the sudden become the smartest people in the world.

If history doesn't exist, say it didn't happen.
 
Your opinion. But if you read the quotes from southern elected officials, the slavery issue was going to phase out without the abolishment movement. The only way for the south to survive financially was to mechanize. If you read transcripts from the floor of our congress during that time, you would understand that. That alone was going to shut down the plantation slaves.

The great crusade myth we sell our kids now was from the black perspective, not our country's. Our country, white government and money, used the slave issue as a political and financial threat. The north hated the black race and did not integrate before, during or right after the war. The black race was held in contempt. There was more integration of races in the south. Black women were literally raising white children on behalf of white families. These women were loved and taken care of, as would any employee close to a family today. So, not every slave was even involved in the great crusade to abolish slavery.

The civil war was fought for state sovereignty and rights. Financial issues fueled it towards war. Just read and learn. I respect your opinion, but it isn't factual, unless you read commentary opinion from history revisionists.

Of course, we are arguing over something that affects absolutely no one now, except those who wish to whitewash history and heritage and revise works of some great people in our past.

Revisionist history only serves those who wish to install agenda.
Provide one - just one - of those quotes. The Southern slave population increased by half a million from 1850 to 1860. Southern states were demanding that it be expanded into the territories. Slavery was not going away anytime soon in the South.
 
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