You are correct. We should not have to be responsible or whatever for someone else issue.
I just believe that the lord above would want us to help others, as much as we can.
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You are correct. We should not have to be responsible or whatever for someone else issue.
I just believe that the lord above would want us to help others, as much as we can.
What is correct?
We are responsible for our decisions and we should be. We should help those less fortunate for sure. The government should not do that the people should.
I seriously applaud you and your wife providing for yourselves. If people had to choose between saving and spending and they spent the money it would be on them. But most people would spend it, sometimes out of necessity. It would have been foolish for the government to have set up a plan which was going to fail for many people.Born the last year of the baby boomers, as a young man I was anything but rich or sophisticated. What was engrained within me, however, was a sense that I, and I alone, was personally responsible to take care of myself and plan for my future. My wife and I practiced delayed gratification and invested 15-25% or more every year in our 403B. I'm still not sophisticated, but ....I have broken the cycle of generations and taught my children what I did, while letting them know we will only be leaving them a little bit of what is left when we die, so you better do the same as we did. If not, they will learn the consequences of stupidity.
If most of the population would have spent the money sent to SS whose fault is that? Play stupid games and win stupid prizes. Btw, what did they do in Washington with that money?? They couldn't keep their hands off of it! Now neither Republicans or Democrats are willing to do what's necessary to make it solvent...both parties are content to keep passing the buck to the next generation but that won't last but so long.
And I'm not looking up to Tommy but simply applauding him for say something many of us have been saying for decades!! You are looking up to FDR and have probably bought the lie taught in schools that his RAW Deal brought America out of the recession.
Washington invests the funds and collects the money and pays it out. There was no intention to accumulate a large amount of money, but no one spent it; that's not the problem.
Now the politicians made changes along the way which were not smart and you are 100% correct that they don't want to touch it
Once again congrats on what you have done.
Yea, but the credit score of people doing the right thing in this country is not good.
It's probably why Social Security was invented in the first place vs. letting the people do it.
But we are responsible for our actions and should be. That is the very reason we need to Lord. He holds us accountable and by God’s grace and the Lords shed blood we are not bound by our sin. But we are to answer for it and we are responsible for what we do.
What did they do with it then. Linden Johnson put SS in the general fund I think to help fund his Great Society bill. Which has failed miserably.
Yes sir. This is very true.
We are also "our brother's keeper". That may mean at times, tough love, or it may mean sharing the very blessing he gave you.
I agree with you. We are paying for people who don't take care of their health. All we have is the hope for a longer and healthy life.
But that doesn't apply to Social Security. It was created to be part of one's retirement. If people weren't forced to be part of it, then more of their financial burden would fall on the rest of us. Not a perfect solution but part of the problem is later politicians have not done a good job with the changes and needed changes.
I don't see what this has to do with Social Security and I am not getting into a discussion of economic policy.
I am not disagreeing with those statements at all. But we are accountable for our decisions and the Lord has put us where we need to be for our good. We must be accountable and do our best and when are not held accountable we do not learn and we do not become humble and trust the Lord. Being our brother’s keeper does not absolve them from their responsibilities at all. Thus we are all responsible for our actions.
You will have to be more specific. The collected payroll taxes are invested in special securities backed by the federal government (thus the money goes to the Federal Government) and they have been used, but not spent in the usual sense. When the securities are due, the money is repaid to Social Security. It's an accounting system and not the same as a company retirement plan where the funds have to be segregated.
BTW, Lyndon Johnson is the one who signed the Medicare and Medicaid bill.
