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Trump to date has done nothing to be compared to Hitler but MSM, liberal raling heads, democratic politicians, and the DOJ who all have been caught in lie after lie after lie tell Americans "he's Hitler" and many believe them?

I guess critical thinking was never on the table
 
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Trump to date has done nothing to be compared to Hitler but MSM, liberal raling heads, democratic politicians, and the DOJ who all have been caught in lie after lie after lie tell you "he's Hitler" and you believe them?

I guess critical thinking was never on the table
The good news is they are all praying for and hoping for a full recovery of the orange Hitler. Huh? What?
So they are complete liars or they like Hitler I guess.
 
The dangerous rhetoric must stop!!!! Trump is not Hitler or is he a "threat to democracy!" What will the LEFT run on now????
We have posters on this board that are seemingly otherwise extremely intelligent people worried that Trump will try to become POTUS for life. As far as I know, he's never even mentioned something like hiding behind a curtain while a mouthpiece delivers his words.
 
We have posters on this board that are seemingly otherwise extremely intelligent people worried that Trump will try to become POTUS for life. As far as I know, he's never even mentioned something like hiding behind a curtain while a mouthpiece delivers his words.
I know about 30 people that fit that category. Otherwise very levelheaded reasonable people but are completely blinded in unreasonable fear & anger with Trump. The true definition of Trump Derangement Syndrome
 
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Trump to date has done nothing to be compared to Hitler but MSM, liberal raling heads, democratic politicians, and the DOJ who all have been caught in lie after lie after lie tell Americans "he's Hitler" and many believe them?

I guess critical thinking was never on the table
pretty simple, what they accuse others of they are guilty of. Who is the threat to "democracy"?
 
Yes, it’s called projection. It’s what the dems do. They are good at visualizing just how bad things can get because it’s their plan. Then they just project on to anyone opposing them.
 
You conveniently forgot the rest of the story. Try again:
MILWAUKEE, July 15 (Reuters) - Eight years ago, in the lead-up to the 2016 presidential election, J.D. Vance was a bitter critic of Donald Trump.
Publicly, he called the Republican presidential candidate an "idiot" and said he was "reprehensible." Privately, he compared him to Adolf Hitler.
But by the time the former president tapped Vance to be his running mate on Monday, the Ohio native had become one of Trump's most ardent defenders, standing by his side even when other high-profile Republicans declined to do so.
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James David Vance's transformation - from self-described "never Trumper" to stalwart loyalist - makes him a relatively unusual figure in Trump's inner circle.
Democrats and even some Republicans have questioned whether Vance, who wrote a bestselling memoir "Hillbilly Elegy" and is now a U.S. senator from Ohio, is driven more by opportunism than ideology.
But Trump, who survived an assassination attempt at a Pennsylvania campaign rally on Saturday, and many of his advisers see his transformation as genuine.
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They point out that Vance's political beliefs - which mix isolationism with economic populism - dovetail with those of Trump, and put both men at odds with the old guard of the Republican Party, where foreign policy hawks and free market evangelists still hold sway.
Republican Senator John Barrasso of Wyoming, whom Vance has described as a mentor, told Reuters that Vance shifted his views on Trump because “he saw the successes that President Trump as president brought to the country.”

In particular, Vance's vocal opposition to U.S. aid for Ukraine in its war with Russia has delighted Trump's most conservative allies, even as it has upset some Senate colleagues.
"He understands what Trump is running on and, unlike the rest of the Republican Party in Washington, agrees with it," conservative commentator Tucker Carlson, a vocal Vance supporter, told Reuters.
Vance, 39, was born into an impoverished home in southern Ohio. His pick may help boost the Trump campaign's Rust Belt bona fides in a race that will be determined by voters in a handful of battleground states, including nearby Pennsylvania and Michigan, though his conservative views may be a turn-off for moderate voters.

"To the extent that he can do anything for the ticket, it would be to recapture being the voice of the American dream," said David Niven, an associate professor of politics at the University of Cincinnati who has worked as a speechwriter for two Democratic governors, referring to Vance's rise from poverty to U.S senator and vice presidential candidate.
After serving in the Marine Corps, attending Yale Law School and working as a venture capitalist in San Francisco, Vance rose to national prominence thanks to his 2016 book "Hillbilly Elegy." In that memoir, he explored the socioeconomic problems confronting his hometown and attempted to explain Trump's popularity among impoverished white Americans to readers.
He was harshly critical of Trump, both publicly and privately, in 2016 and during the opening stages of his 2017-2021 term.
"I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler," he wrote privately to an associate on Facebook in 2016.
When his Hitler comment was first reported, in 2022, a spokesperson did not dispute it, but said it no longer represented Vance's views.
By the time Vance ran for Senate in 2022, his demonstrations of loyalty - which included downplaying the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol by Trump's supporters - were sufficient to score the former president's coveted endorsement. Trump's support helped put him over the top in a competitive primary.
In media interviews, Vance has said there was no "Eureka" moment that changed his views on Trump. Rather, he gradually realized that his opposition to the former president was rooted in style rather than substance.
For instance, he agreed with Trump's contentions that free trade had hollowed out middle America by crushing domestic manufacturing and that the nation's leaders were too quick to get involved in foreign wars.

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"I allowed myself to focus so much on the stylistic element of Trump that I completely ignored the way in which he substantively was offering something very different on foreign policy, on trade, on immigration," Vance told the New York Times in June.
In the same interview, Vance said that he met Trump in 2021 and that the two grew closer during his Senate campaign.
Vance declined to be interviewed by Reuters for this article and his spokesperson declined to comment for it.
The Ohio senator's detractors see his shift in views as a cynical ploy to ascend the ranks of Republican politics.
"What you see is some really profound opportunism," said Niven, the politics professor.
One issue where his position appears to have converged with Trump is abortion.
Vance implied in a 2021 interview that victims of rape and incest should be required to carry pregnancies to term, and in November he described a vote by Ohioans to add the right to abortion care to the state's constitution as a "gut punch."
This year, he said he supports access to the abortion pill mifepristone, a view that Trump shares.

RELATIONSHIP WITH TRUMP​

Before Vance developed a relationship with the former president, he grew close with Trump's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr, according to several people familiar with their relationship.
Vance first caught Trump Jr's eye when he opposed aid to Ukraine during the Ohio Senate primary in 2022, according to one of those people, a position that put him at odds with the other Republicans in the race.
Vance's personal relationship with Trump developed for the most part during the Republican presidential primary earlier this year, that person said. Vance's decision to endorse Trump in January 2023, well before some other vice-presidential hopefuls, served as an important demonstration of loyalty, that person added.
In February 2023, Trump and Vance visited East Palestine, Ohio, the site of a toxic train derailment, a trip that raised Vance's national profile. They portrayed Democratic President Joe Biden's decision at the time not to visit the working-class community as a betrayal of middle America.
The White House noted at the time that federal agents were on the scene almost immediately after the derailment, and that visiting a disaster site can distract from local recovery efforts. Biden eventually visited East Palestine roughly a year later, in February 2024.
Behind the scenes, Vance has helped convince wealthy donors to open their wallets to Trump, according to two people with knowledge of Trump's fundraising operations. Vance, for instance, helped put together a Bay Area fundraiser in June hosted by venture capitalists David Sacks and Chamath Palihapitiya, one of those people said.
Off the campaign trail, some of Trump's highest-profile allies - including Donald Trump Jr, Carlson, and Steve Bannon - have been delighted by Vance's brief tenure on Capitol Hill. All of those individuals have legions of conservative followers, and their approval may help drive Republicans to the polls.
Vance's skepticism of corporate America, support for tariffs, weariness of foreign entanglements and his youth make him a leading voice of a new Republican Party that is more focused on the working class than big business in the eyes of supporters.
"I think that in terms of bringing to the ticket, he can articulate the pain that American families are feeling better than almost anybody else," said Senator Barrasso.
Vance has been criticized for just copying Trump.
"Vance is an echo to Trump," said Niven, "not a new voice."
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Reporting by Gram Slattery and Helen Coster;Editing by Ross Colvin and Alistair Bell
 
& he's since course corrected & acknowledged how wrong he was. People are allowed to do that
If only Dems could admit when they are wrong.
I am sorry to make that statement as they are never wrong and my statement is a threat to their democracy and egos.
 
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Constantly calling someone Hitler has the effect of minimizing the actual evil of the real Hitler. It dishonors all those people who died at his hands and those who died trying to stop him. Even the worst vitriol concerning Donald Trump as portrayed by the media and the leftist in this country do not come close to actual hate and terror perpetrated by Hitler.
 
Trump to date has done nothing to be compared to Hitler but MSM, liberal raling heads, democratic politicians, and the DOJ who all have been caught in lie after lie after lie tell Americans "he's Hitler" and many believe them?

I guess critical thinking was never on the table
Trump is not Hitler. But he certainly enjoys singing from his and Mussolini's song book. But no Trump is not Hitler and I don't expect him to invade Poland if he is sadly reelected.
 
Trump is not Hitler. But he certainly enjoys singing from his and Mussolini's song book. But no Trump is not Hitler and I don't expect him to invade Poland if he is sadly reelected.
He's not going to invade anyone. He's one of the only politicians resisting war & Vance wants war even less than Trump. Most politicians in both parties want us sending troops to Ukraine on top of many more billions of dollars

Loving your own nation, being proud of where you are from, wanting to put your country first before all others (that's what every elected official regardless of country should do). That is admirable. And a helluva lot better than failing at being world police yet again.

Pushing back against corruption in the deep state, DOJ, and DC. Calling out the bs, lies, and manipulation of the media. I see that as good. Wanting strong borders and national security while keeping American jobs in the hands of Americans. Sounds good too
 
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He's not going to invade anyone. He's one of the only politicians resisting war & Vance wants war even less than Trump.

Loving your own nation, being proud of where you are from, wanting to put your country first before all others (that's what every elected official regardless of country should do). That is admirable. And a helluva lot better than failing at being world police yet again.

Pushing back against corruption in the deep state, DOJ, and DC. Calling out the bs, lies, and manipulation of the media. I see that as good. Wanting strong borders and national security while keeping American jobs in the hands of Americans. Sounds good too
How can you call out the BS when you have been the master of the BS for most of your life.
 
He's not going to invade anyone. He's one of the only politicians resisting war & Vance wants war even less than Trump. Most politicians in both parties want us sending troops to Ukraine on top of many more billions of dollars

Loving your own nation, being proud of where you are from, wanting to put your country first before all others (that's what every elected official regardless of country should do). That is admirable. And a helluva lot better than failing at being world police yet again.

Pushing back against corruption in the deep state, DOJ, and DC. Calling out the bs, lies, and manipulation of the media. I see that as good. Wanting strong borders and national security while keeping American jobs in the hands of Americans. Sounds good too
Pushing back on corruption!. Not the Donald Trump I've known for 40 years
 
I know about 30 people that fit that category. Otherwise very levelheaded reasonable people but are completely blinded in unreasonable fear & anger with Trump. The true definition of Trump Derangement Syndrome
There are some very level headed, intelligent people out there that no amount of evidence will ever change their minds. The problem is not a lack of intelligence. It is just that almost everything they know is just wrong.

 
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There are some very level headed, intelligent people out there that no amount of evidence will ever change their minds. The problem is not a lack of intelligence. It is just that almost everything they know is just wrong.

All I know is Trump, despite being hamstrung by witch hunts, uncooperative republicans, & impeachment investigations still managed to do a lot of good for America especially in terms of foreign policy. I cannot say any of the same about Biden
 
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You know him or you just believe everything the media (in all their impeccable honesty) tell you about him?
Grew up in NYC ares. Think of Trump as rassling promoter and you'll be pretty close to his essence. The BS is strong in him. But sadly that is kind of what works for politicians these days. But don't ever believe that he gives a turd about anyone but his self.
 
Grew up in NYC ares. Think of Trump as rassling promoter and you'll be pretty close to his essence. The BS is strong in him. But sadly that is kind of what works for politicians these days. But don't ever believe that he gives a turd about anyone but his self.
He's an asshole but he's the asshole this country needs right now. I fully believe that
 
All I know is Trump, despite being hamstrung by witch hunts, uncooperative republicans, & impeachment investigations still managed to do a lot of good for America especially in terms of foreign policy. I cannot say any of the same about Biden
 
Did you post something? I just see your re-posted my post. Sometimes I can't see it on my screen
 
We can do better but Biden isn't the answer either. I don't know what it is about old men and their egos but at 66 y/o I can can kind of see how it is hard to admit that your best days are behind you.
 
We can do better but Biden isn't the answer either. I don't know what it is about old men and their egos but at 66 y/o I can can kind of see how it is hard to admit that your best days are behind you.
I've heard Boomers won't give up power (whether in leadership, business, politics) & not enough millennials seeking power & leadership for themselves. Kind of a double edged sword
 
I've heard Boomers won't give up power (whether in leadership, business, politics) & not enough millennials seeking power & leadership for themselves. Kind of a double edged sword
Trump is a boomer. Biden... Silent generation. I'm thinking time to move past the boomers even though I am one. Time to clear the fossils out of the Senate and Supreme Court too.
 
Grew up in NYC ares. Think of Trump as rassling promoter and you'll be pretty close to his essence. The BS is strong in him. But sadly that is kind of what works for politicians these days. But don't ever believe that he gives a turd about anyone but his self.
You can say that till you're blue in the face, but Trump's actions say otherwise. He cares about this country more than most politicians, who mostly care about lining their pockets.
 
We can do better but Biden isn't the answer either. I don't know what it is about old men and their egos but at 66 y/o I can can kind of see how it is hard to admit that your best days are behind you.
All I know is all of those brilliant young self proclaimed altruist we've been electing since Reagan have created trillions in debt, divided the country, agreed to horrific trade deals, sold our sovereignty to the idea of corporate globalism and on and on. They've created a system of grift and corporatism that has allowed them to make the business of politics more lucrative than creating products while making creating jobs in America harder and harder as exporting the jobs became more profitable.

I DGAF if Donald Trump cares about me our not. Running my business was easier under Trump which allowed me to make money and pass more along to my employees. Trump tried to confront crime but also worked for judicial fairness for those without the resources to defend themselves. It doesn't matter whether Trump truly loves America. It matters that he makes life better for Americans.
 
You can say that till you're blue in the face, but Trump's actions say otherwise. He cares about this country more than most politicians, who mostly care about lining their pockets.
Then he is very happy that you believe BS. That is entirely the point. Some folks believe wrassling is real too.
 
All I know is all of those brilliant young self proclaimed altruist we've been electing since Reagan have created trillions in debt, divided the country, agreed to horrific trade deals, sold our sovereignty to the idea of corporate globalism and on and on. They've created a system of grift and corporatism that has allowed them to make the business of politics more lucrative than creating products while making creating jobs in America harder and harder as exporting the jobs became more profitable.

I DGAF if Donald Trump cares about me our not. Running my business was easier under Trump which allowed me to make money and pass more along to my employees. Trump tried to confront crime but also worked for judicial fairness for those without the resources to defend themselves. It doesn't matter whether Trump truly loves America. It matters that he makes life better for Americans.
Sure. You made money because the righteous God Trump raised his hands to the sky and wondermuss blessings were brought down to you because of his holiness.
 
Sure. You made money because the righteous God Trump raised his hands to the sky and wondermuss blessings were brought down to you because of his holiness.
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Trump to date has done nothing to be compared to Hitler but MSM, liberal raling heads, democratic politicians, and the DOJ who all have been caught in lie after lie after lie tell Americans "he's Hitler" and many believe them?

I guess critical thinking was never on the table
I hold the MSM and certain Dems Biden, Pelosi, Adam Shit etc for the constant lies and divisive behavior. They are as responsible as the guy who pulled the trigger imo. And Biden said rhetoric needs to cool and next sentence starts spouting the same negative lies about Trump. I seriously hate that man. He is a disgusting traitor who will never get the punishment he and his family deserve for what they have done to the nation. They all should be in jail along with Majorkas and others.
 
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