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Democrats sabotaged the mineral rights deal

This group doesn't like facts. Waiting for someone to blame Biden.
It was par for the course for zelensky and biden as well. They had several arguments. None public, but one made the media. The less dealings we can have with him or Putin going forward is a good thing imo.



I have found Rubio to be pretty trustworthy on these things. The public nature of this was a bad thing. I don’t know how that can be argued, but it doesn’t change who and what we are dealing with. He is only an ally because we can help him. The whole country knows that Putin is a snake. Some people still feel sorry for Zelenskyy. Think of him as a martyr of sorts. He definitely isn’t that.
 
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Would hate to believe this is true. Don’t get what there would be to gain.
There is really only one source on this so who knows if it is true. It would most certainly be disastrous for the Democrats with polls showing thier favorablility this weekend running between 21 and 29%.
Trump according to Five Thirty Eight dropped from 50% approval to 46% after the Zelinskyy meeting ( Nate's polls are always a little harder on Trump than others, but it is the most recent so take it for what it is worth).
 
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Because they had the vision to understand that a “peace deal” only rewards Putin the aggressor. The better strategy was to have Russia remain in a quagmire, diplomatically and economically isolated, continue to bleed resources, and have popular opinion at home turn against Putin as the caskets continued to roll in. Which is brutal for Ukraine, as they were simply minding their own business.
 
Because they had the vision to understand that a “peace deal” only rewards Putin the aggressor. The better strategy was to have Russia remain in a quagmire, diplomatically and economically isolated, continue to bleed resources, and have popular opinion at home turn against Putin as the caskets continued to roll in. Which is brutal for Ukraine, as they were simply minding their own business.
It may be more brutal than most think if Ukraine began fighting with 980,000 troops and they are now down to conscripts
 
Because they had the vision to understand that a “peace deal” only rewards Putin the aggressor. The better strategy was to have Russia remain in a quagmire, diplomatically and economically isolated, continue to bleed resources, and have popular opinion at home turn against Putin as the caskets continued to roll in. Which is brutal for Ukraine, as they were simply minding their own business.
“As long as it takes”??
 
Because they had the vision to understand that a “peace deal” only rewards Putin the aggressor. The better strategy was to have Russia remain in a quagmire, diplomatically and economically isolated, continue to bleed resources, and have popular opinion at home turn against Putin as the caskets continued to roll in. Which is brutal for Ukraine, as they were simply minding their own business.
Ok sounds good. Please explain how this happens without thousands more Ukrainians dying ?
 
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During his visit to the United States, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy met in Washington with a bipartisan delegation from the U.S. Senate. The delegation included Republican senators: President pro tempore of the Senate Chuck Grassley, Сhairman of the Armed Services Committee and Co-Chair of the Senate Ukraine Caucus Roger Wicker, and Сhairman of the Senate Budget Committee Lindsey Graham.
 
So Grassley, Wicker and Graham were present, but all 3 have remained silent about the Democrats who were there urging Zelensky to reject the deal? They just decided not to mention that this occurred?
 
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It was par for the course for zelensky and biden as well. They had several arguments. None public, but one made the media. The less dealings we can have with him or Putin going forward is a good thing imo.



I have found Rubio to be pretty trustworthy on these things. The public nature of this was a bad thing. I don’t know how that can be argued, but it doesn’t change who and what we are dealing with. He is only an ally because we can help him. The whole country knows that Putin is a snake. Some people still feel sorry for Zelenskyy. Think of him as a martyr of sorts. He definitely isn’t that.

To be fair, sleepy Joe should've been looking for a way to end this war too.

When did anyone from the Biden Administration ask for a peace deal? If they did , I’ll stand corrected, but I can’t remember one time.
Biden may have failed on this, but you make it sound like he could do something now. IT'S ALL ON TRUMP NOW. But this is always your substitute when you can't find a good way to defend Trump.
 
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Because they had the vision to understand that a “peace deal” only rewards Putin the aggressor. The better strategy was to have Russia remain in a quagmire, diplomatically and economically isolated, continue to bleed resources, and have popular opinion at home turn against Putin as the caskets continued to roll in. Which is brutal for Ukraine, as they were simply minding their own business.
This quagmire would have resulted in hundreds of thousands of additional lives lost.
 
Biden may have failed on this, but you make it sound like he could do something now. IT'S ALL ON TRUMP NOW. But this is always your substitute when you can't find a good way to defend Trump.
I agree,balls in trumps court. Let's see how it ends.
 
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I said yesterday that I figured this is what happened. The Dems are nothing but a treasonous bunch of rabble. They are willing to destroy our country to keep Trump from being successful. It is so sad to see a political party fall so low so fast.
 
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This quagmire would have resulted in hundreds of thousands of additional lives lost.
It’s horrible as all wars are. But rewarding dictators for invading countries simply emboldens them to do it again leading to exponentially more death and destruction. Would’ve been better if Putin had never invaded, but here we are.
 
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Clearly Murphy interfered based on his quotes.
So you are just accepting the internet lie about what happened … come on. You are a smart guy. That’s not what happened. If it was, the Republicans who were present would be jumping up and down on the soapbox.
 
It’s horrible as all wars are. But rewarding dictators for invading countries simply emboldens them to do it again leading to exponentially more death and destruction. Would’ve been better if Putin had never invaded, but here we are.
How is he being rewarded??
 
You people can’t even spell facts! All you know is lies.

During his visit to the United States, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy met in Washington with a bipartisan delegation from the U.S. Senate. The delegation included Republican senators: President pro tempore of the Senate Chuck Grassley, Сhairman of the Armed Services Committee and Co-Chair of the Senate Ukraine Caucus Roger Wicker, and Сhairman of the Senate Budget Committee Lindsey Graham.
You’re probably getting your news sources from the MSM
 
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Biden may have failed on this, but you make it sound like he could do something now. IT'S ALL ON TRUMP NOW. But this is always your substitute when you can't find a good way to defend Trump.
Why is it all on Trump? Europe is the ones that are in danger here. Maybe this is a way to make them stand up for themselves and not depending on the US. Hell you libs just don’t get it we are broke and we can’t keep protecting the world. We should just keep looking out for ourselves instead. America First is the only way to go in this situation. Let Europe handle this they have the most to lose in that war.
 
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IMO it is a 50% chance the Dems did it and a 50% chance it was the Brit’s that sabotaged Zelensky for the meeting and then gaslighted that the Dems did it as a distraction.

Remember - the Brits signed a 100 year defense pact with Zelensky last month that includes mineral rights from Ukraine.
 
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Because they had the vision to understand that a “peace deal” only rewards Putin the aggressor. The better strategy was to have Russia remain in a quagmire, diplomatically and economically isolated, continue to bleed resources, and have popular opinion at home turn against Putin as the caskets continued to roll in. Which is brutal for Ukraine, as they were simply minding their own business.
You must have missed this report on CNN about Ukraine "simply minding their own business". The problem is their "business" was the genocide of the Eastern Ukraine Russians that wanted independence from the neo-Nazis in Kiev .
 
It is now being reported that Zakensky is heading back to Washington to sign the mineral rights deal.
 
Why is it all on Trump? Europe is the ones that are in danger here. Maybe this is a way to make them stand up for themselves and not depending on the US. Hell you libs just don’t get it we are broke and we can’t keep protecting the world. We should just keep looking out for ourselves instead. America First is the only way to go in this situation. Let Europe handle this they have the most to lose in that war.
why do you think throwing out insults help state your arguments. You're right on Europe, but then destroy any argument. The point was that for the US it was on Trump now and not Biden. The point still stands.
 
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why do you think throwing out insults help state your arguments. You're right on Europe, but then destroy any argument. The point was that for the US it was on Trump now and not Biden. The point still stands.
And I am saying as far as the US and Trump point. I think that Trump should sit back and see how Europe does with this mess.
 
Because they had the vision to understand that a “peace deal” only rewards Putin the aggressor. The better strategy was to have Russia remain in a quagmire, diplomatically and economically isolated, continue to bleed resources, and have popular opinion at home turn against Putin as the caskets continued to roll in. Which is brutal for Ukraine, as they were simply minding their own business.
Great plan as long as the US is willing to throw hundreds of billions of dollars at this war with no strings attached. The problem is we are broke and the American people aren’t voting for that bs. This is a war we should have never been in. Weakening Russia does nothing for us. It makes them more dangerous and now they have China as an ally. None of this has been good for us or Ukraine.
 
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