Ukraine
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It's not about hating Trump. It's about disapproving how he behaves as President. If he was holding court at Mar-A-Lago and wasn't President I wouldn't care.
Russia will invade another country and Republicans are going to raid Medicaid. I get it
Wait, that was a meeting between the leaders of two countries?
I thought I was watching LARP of Beavis and Butthead,
Zelenskyy came over, ostensibly, to sign off on a deal he made.
Smile, sign your deal you made, all while dressed like Sen. Fetterman (D-PA), then fly back home to Ukraine while there’s still an Ukraine.
Remember, back when Ukraine had a puncher’s chance in this war, Poland wanted to send them fighter jets.
Who objected?
C’mon, man
Ukraine apparently has a whole buncha rare earth minerals. We need those so we can make batteries for y’all’s electric hippie cars.
We could wait for Baron Trump to become a crackhead and a whoremonger and to secure us rights to a Congolese cobalt mine, as the former First Son did for China, but we’ve sunk a lot of money into Ukraine, and if we don’t get a deal done and get that cookie, Putin is gonna conquer Ukraine and do it.
Russia gets money for its war machine when they can exploit the value in natural resources. Like when c’mon man green lights their oil pipeline the second he gets in office.
Trump is the Russian puppet, though. Because bad orange man.
Let’s all take time to criticize our President over lying about whether it is $150 billion or $350 billion.
Either is a whole shit-ton of money.. Both are more than the reported hundred billion dollars given to Ukraine that was reported as “we dont know where the **** that money went and we can’t account for it.”
Please, let’s all piss more money down that well as we bitch about bad orange man.
Either sum was put on our children’s’ credit card. All of us. Let’s all think on that as we drive our electric hippie cars to work tomorrow.
I thought I was watching LARP of Beavis and Butthead,
Zelenskyy came over, ostensibly, to sign off on a deal he made.
Smile, sign your deal you made, all while dressed like Sen. Fetterman (D-PA), then fly back home to Ukraine while there’s still an Ukraine.
Remember, back when Ukraine had a puncher’s chance in this war, Poland wanted to send them fighter jets.
Who objected?
C’mon, man
Ukraine apparently has a whole buncha rare earth minerals. We need those so we can make batteries for y’all’s electric hippie cars.
We could wait for Baron Trump to become a crackhead and a whoremonger and to secure us rights to a Congolese cobalt mine, as the former First Son did for China, but we’ve sunk a lot of money into Ukraine, and if we don’t get a deal done and get that cookie, Putin is gonna conquer Ukraine and do it.
Russia gets money for its war machine when they can exploit the value in natural resources. Like when c’mon man green lights their oil pipeline the second he gets in office.
Trump is the Russian puppet, though. Because bad orange man.
Let’s all take time to criticize our President over lying about whether it is $150 billion or $350 billion.
Either is a whole shit-ton of money.. Both are more than the reported hundred billion dollars given to Ukraine that was reported as “we dont know where the **** that money went and we can’t account for it.”
Please, let’s all piss more money down that well as we bitch about bad orange man.
Either sum was put on our children’s’ credit card. All of us. Let’s all think on that as we drive our electric hippie cars to work tomorrow.
Don't worry. Elon is focused on making things better for you. He cares about us.
Ukraine is running out of soldiers, the war has become a battle of attrition! Trump is trying to help Zelensky find a way out of it, but the man doesn't have the intellect to see it. If we pull our support, Ukraine is living on borrowed time. Zelensky is too prideful to make concessions & is killing his country one cut at a time! Russia is certainly the bad actor in this conflict, but they are the bigger bear & will win over time! If Zelensky had signed the minerals deal offered today , the USA would have had a physical footprint in Ukraine & been a large detterent to future Russian invasions! Zelensky doesn't have the foresight or instincts to be the leader of Ukraine. He tried to be the bull in the china shop today & totally blew it ! Trump is not Neville Chamberlin, Germany wasn't sitting on the largest stockpile of nuclear weapons in the world- Russia is! Trump can/will be strong, but he won't act foolishly & possibly start WWlll over a country like Ukraine!
Bret Stephens is a big never-trumper. No surprise here. When Trump ends the war he will complain again, along with several on the chat.
This ambush occurred about 40 minutes into a 49 minute conversation. I think they'd reached their limits with tolerating his interjections.
How dare he dispute their nonsense. He should have bent over and took it. Only Trump speaks truth. For the love of God. Do you not realize that Trump is incapable of recognizing anything approaching reality.
Willy, Willy, Willy.
Both countries suck.
Flashback: Remember When Biden Blew His Top At Zelensky?
President Biden lost his temper and raised his voice on the phone with Volodymyr Zelensky when the Ukrainian president continued to press for more aid even after Biden signed off on $1 billion worth of military assistance earlier this year, according to a report Monday. The phone call in June...
www.offthepress.com
At 66 yo I'm pretty sure I am. As someone who grew up in and around NYC I'm also sure that I know what a bullshit artist the Donald is.
Dude. Take a pill. You're siding with a little shit who presides over a country full of Nazis. Russia is no better, which is precisely why we shouldn't be involved at all.
That's the problem though. You're focused on Trump and your own grievances with him.
Zelensky is a little shit, but the Ukrainian nation is one deserving of respect and the "Nazis" are the ones fighting against their own genocide.
Wow. You're repeating Putin speak. I'm afraid the Nazis lost WWII. Putin calls Ukraine Nazis because they got rid of his puppet government in 2014. Euro maidan. Check it out. Someone explain to me why Trump is still carrying Putin's water.
At 66, you should realize when someone should keep their mouth shut. Hopefully Zelensky gets another chance. I think he will because Trump is mature enough to realize how important this is. But he’ll probably let the kid think about it a few days
If you believe the 4d chess narrative. Personally I don't. Flatter the Trump. Give him a chance to brag about a win and what a great deal maker he is and you are probably OK with him
You’re missing the whole point. The problem is they thought they had a deal. Zelensky knew the deal before he ever left Ukraine. It’s the same deal Besent flew to Ukraine to sign. Then he agreed to sign it in Munic. This time at the White House in front of the media, Zelensky started back tracking, AGAIN. He jjumped to questioning the cease fire and security guarantees. This is the 3rd time they thought there was an agreement and he pulled this bullshit. Just so happened the whole world saw it play out this time.
What deal? More like Trump extortion. I'm sure Ukraine is open to fair deal that preserves their sovereignty. Trump is looking for a media moment where he can crow about his so called deal making prowess
LMAO at you commies. Zelenskyy is such an embarrassment, and has been for some time, that their parliament is calling for his impeachment.
Guess he found out he can’t come in and dictate US policy to us like he did with Biden.
Z better wake up and realize he’s not playing with clowns anymore. Stakes are higher for him than he realizes.
Guess he found out he can’t come in and dictate US policy to us like he did with Biden.
Z better wake up and realize he’s not playing with clowns anymore. Stakes are higher for him than he realizes.
So sell your number 1 resource in an agreement to someone you don't trust. Would you sell?
Would you rather lose everything? There is no hope for Ukraine. They have zero chance of winning and only survive because of benevolence you just spit on, in the home of your sugar daddy, while rolling your eyes, sighing, and interrupting your benefactor.
The arrogance was astounding, as highlighted by the diplomat's clear embarrassment and the quick apology on twitter.
WOW! Where have you been the last four years? When Biden’s weakness on foreign policy was on full display. But this is coming from someone that basically implies the President of The United States is a Russian operative…lol
You do realize we have something called a deficit? So since we are the “richest and most powerful” country in the world, we should just continue to throw unaccounted for, billions of dollars at a war that Ukraine can’t win? The Biden way. How bout a little realism? I suppose you are a huge supporter of USAID as well? Over 70% of the U.S. population wants Ukraine to negotiate a settlement with Russia, so you are in the minority for the U.S. to keep throwing money at this war.
The Biden way..let’s give enough unaccountable money to keep a war going, but not the correct capabilities to achieve an end. This war was lost in the early stages when the sorry a$$ POS Russian Army was on the ropes (when Ukraine held the upper hand for a true end) and your sorry a$$ Biden Administration refused to give the requested weaponry Ukraine needed. Not to mention how the whole thing started following the pathetic display of weakness by Biden. His “minor incursion” comments, and the DEI Queen’s word salad speech at the Munich Security Conference were legendary! Basically giving the Russians the green light to invade which they did just a few days later. And now this new administration is left forced trying to clean this mess up.
Still waiting for one of you Dems on here to give a sensible solution to end this war and the mass deaths and killings of the Ukrainian people. None of you seem to care or recognize the massive death and destruction Ukraine has already experienced and its need for this to end now. You want this to continue as is? Reading your post that’s what it sounds like. And if it does, there will be no Ukraine left. Your post read like Ukraine has the upper hand in negotiating with Russia, they don’t! Do you want American boots on the ground? This is what Zelenskyy wants, along with a continued fight. If not, would love to hear your proposal on how this war is winnable for Ukraine?
Putin became “invincible” early on in this war when your weak Biden Admin refused to give the weaponry Ukraine requested when Ukraine still had a fighting chance …your post is describing events that is disgustingly happening every day in Ukraine and has for months now. The illegal killing by Putin has been going on for years now, and will continue. Supporting all the more reason for a cease fire …but hey, for the sake of your narrative, let’s pretend these events have just now started happening 🫣
Still waiting on your brilliant opinion on how this drawn out war should end? And how Ukraine can have the upper hand on negotiations. You seem to imply that with your rhetoric. Do you propose we just march right into Russia and put Putin on trial for war crimes? Or continue to throw unaccounted for billions of dollars at a war Ukraine can’t win? Have yet to read ANY TYPE of solutions from you, much less a sensible one, just the everyday TDS Trump bash fest, and your stale same ole RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA and Putin Putin Putin cries.
Someone he doesn’t “trust” , but has no issues taking billions of dollars from with no accountability
This lady did and knew it was going terribly wrong … what a lost opportunity for Zelenskyy. For the Ukrainian peoples sake, I hope talks will eventually continue
Ukrainian ambassador reacts during tense Trump-Zelenskyy Oval Office exchange | Fox News Video
Ukrainian ambassador to the U.S. Oksana Markarova puts her head in her hands during a heated exchange Friday between President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the White House. (Credit: Misha Komadovsky/Voice of America)
Donald Trump’s public meeting with President Zelenskyy was an embarrassment to the United States. Instead of treating Ukraine’s leader with the respect and seriousness the situation demands, Trump turned it into a spectacle—more Bar Rescue than real diplomacy. He postured and grandstanded like John Taffer screaming at exhausted restaurateurs, not to solve anything, but to rile up an audience that thrives on outrage and lacks basic empathy.
Ukraine is a critical American ally, fighting on the front lines against an authoritarian aggressor. Their struggle is not just about their own survival—it’s about defending democracy, global stability, and the values the U.S. claims to stand for. Yet Trump treated Zelenskyy with the same shallow, performative aggression he uses to entertain his base, as if war and international alliances were just another opportunity to "own" someone for the cameras.
His behavior wasn’t just ignorant—it was dangerous. It undermined our credibility, signaled weakness to our adversaries, and insulted a nation fighting for its existence. America needs real leadership, not someone who thinks foreign policy is about optics and ratings.
Ukraine is a critical American ally, fighting on the front lines against an authoritarian aggressor. Their struggle is not just about their own survival—it’s about defending democracy, global stability, and the values the U.S. claims to stand for. Yet Trump treated Zelenskyy with the same shallow, performative aggression he uses to entertain his base, as if war and international alliances were just another opportunity to "own" someone for the cameras.
His behavior wasn’t just ignorant—it was dangerous. It undermined our credibility, signaled weakness to our adversaries, and insulted a nation fighting for its existence. America needs real leadership, not someone who thinks foreign policy is about optics and ratings.
Hahahaha. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This dude didn't even see what happened. Just repeating the talking points from MSNBC.
