Us democrats just have different values than you MAGA Trumpers.
“You should have never started it “
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LMAO…”strong arm”
Your in a huge minority if you think Ukraine should not have to repay the U.S. back in some way for our Billions spent ..they have other natural resources and assets besides your “scorched earth” opinion, or Russia would not be invading them genius. You might want to try doing a little history lesson before you spew on here. Check and see what all the U.S. obtained by U.S. “statesman” from European nations following WW2, as payback for saving Europe from a Nazi regime. I guess deal making is only bad when your “Orange Jesus” is involved.
Javier Blas is nothing but an opinionated left wing commodities climate change green new deal supporting activists…that works for Bloomberg…lol
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So Ukraine should have just responded to the invasion and attack "we give up Russia, take over"?
"return on an investment". This is Ukraine fighting the aggressor on its behalf and the free world.
You got that right buddy.
Europe should be doing more since it's on their doorstep.
I guess you missed the fact that Trump is trying to bring this to an end.
You libs just sit back and let the adults handle things. Your side couldn't handle sh*t.
Idk, but how has it worked out for them so far? Most military aged men dead, older men dead, the country is demolished and the population is demolished.
This would be similar to UAB playing UGA every week. At some point you realize that youll never win.
Oh and btw, how come the Biden Admin never started peace talks? Biden sent Harris to talk to Putin and 3 days later Putin attacked. Coincidence?
Your values......killing babies, getting the US engaged in endless wars, legalized drugs, open borders, defunding police, ANTIFA.......y'all are just model citizens.
You or I have no idea what putin’s reasons were for actually starting the war. Could be dreams of putting back together the ussr, could be nato, or it could be other reasons. I was just parroting what they would say if we took that position, and went after Russia in public. That isn’t how you negotiate a peace. You only do that if you plan to commit more to making Russia back off. The country didn’t vote for that so you tell me.
I don’t want anything positive to happen to either country. They both suck historically. But the war has thrown Europe into chaos and caused pain all over the world. We know all those sanctions you were applauding how many years ago didn’t do a damn thing. Just end it. I will say, in private or however trump or Rubio decide to do it, tell Putin if you even breath in Poland’s direction it is on. Hard to argue that the chaos everywhere else isn’t felt here, you have argued that 100 times on this very board in defense of Biden.
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The next time you post something accurate about Trump and context will be the first time you were accurate. He will get asked to directly corroborate this. Because he, unlike Biden, actually answers the medias questions. I will say I was wrong if he doubles down, but I have learned my lesson when it comes to context with him. So should you. How many times to you have to be proven wrong before you actually take a second. Why does he think that? If so. He doesn’t shy away. I am sure he will keep talking. We can count on Trump to do that.
Despite the truth, the real truth is that the USA is correct in dealing with Russia directly. Ukraine is a puppet country, we would have to deal with Russia eventually. Why waste time. Leave Europe out of it, there are only 3 superpowers
I suspect Putin reasons were 1) more sea access 2) mineral rights 3) the breadbasket of Europe. I think he thought he could walk on Biden like a doormat, and he did.
I liken this to when my little brother and I would get in a fight. My dad would talk to each of us alone at first, hear both sides to our stories. Then, after that, he would meet with us together and hash it out. Worked 100% of the time. My dad was in the power position. He made the money....we lived in his house. The US is in the 'dad' position here.
He also didn't want Ukraine being able to join NATO, and I agree with that. Ukraine would have nothing to contribute to NATO.....they'd be nothing but takers......like most member countries of NATO.
And you think that money grows on trees and live in some type of Disney Fairyland world …lol
They want to see debt that will force other countries to use Chinese currency as the world standard thereby hastening the end of the USA.
If this is an example of DeepSeek or ChatGPT, I’d believe I’d wait until Musk’s Grok comes out
And the scary thing is…their TDS is so bad, they would rather that be the case..lol
Still waiting for one of these geniuses on here to give a sensible solution on how to end this war….all their party has done is throw money at it without any accountability…Dems have become the Pro War party
I also think Trump will try to formulate a closer relationship with Russia and put China on an island. Putin knows that China is only cozying up to them because China wants leverage over them. China has been doing this to countries around the world....pretend to be their friend, loan them money...only to have ultimate power over that country.
Russia and their citizens have far more in common with the US than with China. Russia does not have the economy or military might they once had and know they would be far better off in an alliance with us than with China.
Why do you democrats want to forever view Russia as an adversary?
I've got a couple of friends up here in Hiawassee who are from Russia, and they still have family back in Russia. They tell me that if you asked ANY Russian citizen, would they rather be more like the US or more like Russia, the response is the US 100% of the time. They despise China.
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Still waiting on one of y’all to give your solution on how to end this war?
CRICKETS
Still waiting on your proposed solution on how to end this war?
CRICKETS
Here is the other piece to this whole clusterf. No one can argue that we should continue sending them money anymore. Has nothing to do with continuing to weaken Russia. That is a bonus. But Zelenskyy admitted on camera he lost more than half the money we sent over there. What kind of moron would it take to approve more money to be sent to the Ukraine
What choice do we have? Unless you want to start ww3.
Biden sent Harris over to talk to him and 3 days later he invaded Ukraine. Not a coincidence .
The statements by Trump the last few days reciting Russian talking points are one of the most despicable things I have ever seen a President do in modern history. I can’t believe the Republican Party has gone from a pillar of strength against communists and dictators to kissing their asses in the span of a few years.
If you were a Republican who lived during the Reagan years I don’t know how you can support what is obviously turning into complete capitulation to Putin.
You do realize that Putin has all the leverage right ?
Trump is trying to light a fire under Zelensky’s butt to get something done instead of just cashing checks.
We can’t stay in this stalemate forever.
We can’t stay in this stalemate forever.
This is a true statement. You dimocrats prefer, anti America socialism, men that claim to be women, little children sexualized, homosexuality, and communist China. You prefer government control of all aspects of our lives. I could go on, but I don't have all day. Just happy to see you make a true statement for once.
It always is on the chat
'You could have made a deal': Trump blames Ukraine after US-Russia talks - BBC News
The US president dismissed concerns Ukraine was being left out of peace talks in Saudi Arabia - as he suggested Ukraine was to blame for Russia's invasion.www.bbc.com
Just in case someone wants to read an article and not believe more fear porn. Like vlad is writing speeches. Jesus man. He suggested that they could have made a deal. And this could have been stopped a long time ago with less death, and less on the table the Ukraine may have to give up. The liberal spin machine is in high gear.
They cannot get out of their own way lol
Totally get this opinion. You know I enjoy your posts. And you hit both sides of the isle as much as any poster on the board.
How do you end this war? How can you ever send money to the Ukraine again? The only country to be bargained with here is Russia. Escalation is possible to lead to ww3. I don’t want that. Do you? I am open to suggestion. I can’t stand Russia, but I don’t know another way this works without involving ourselves more than we already have. And without meeting in the middle.
Yeah, and we’ve seen what those values have gotten us and the entire world. Those values are exactly why Kamala lost and the democrats lost the house and the senate.
Context. Damn. I expect a polarizing reaction to this. Napalm.
They need to just debate how many genders they are.
Well they should've known since putin started this in 2014. oh obummer and brain dead biden thought so much of the conflict they only gave them MRE's and blankets. smdh.
Russia gets Donbas and most eastern areas, Ukraine keeps the nuclear power plant and half the Black Sea border. I think having a USA presence and resource access is fair in terms of restitution for all we’ve done as part of a security guarantee.
Finally, international oversight of elections should be a condition or Putin will hijack all the elections.
