Oh you said Karmala because that’s not actually her name! I get it. Good one!I bet Karmala is proud.
So what you're saying is that if an embryo dies before the doctors know about it, it has a zero chance of being aborted?Likely they were mostly embryos.
Did you know that well over half of all embryos die without anyone, including a doctor or mother knowing?
Considering the amount of sperm released in the act of sex, the one that helped make us finding it's way to an egg ready to be fertilized, and the 60% to 75% likelihood that the embryo wouldn't survive the first few weeks of pregnancy, all of us won a lottery with insane odds. Science boggles the mind again.
However, an important biological feature of human embryos has been left out of a lot of ethical and even scientific discussion informing reproductive policy – most human embryos die before anyone, including doctors, even know they exist. This embryo loss typically occurs in the first two months after fertilization, before the clump of cells has developed into a fetus with immature forms of the body’s major organs. Total abortion bans that define personhood at conception mean that full legal rights exist for a 5-day-old blastocyst, a hollow ball of cells roughly 0.008 inches (0.2 millimeters) across with a high likelihood of disintegrating within a few days.
https://theconversation.com/most-hu...-to-take-this-embryo-loss-into-account-187904
Way to go with scientifically missing the f*cking point. Trying to science your way into devaluing human life is to miss the point entirely of what our problem is. Did you know that scientifically humans are 60 percent water? With that in mind, can I drink you like a Vampire? What’s the problem, I’m JUST drinking water! Do you see why we can’t f*cking science our way into being our f*cking values?Likely they were mostly embryos.
Did you know that well over half of all embryos die without anyone, including a doctor or mother knowing?
Considering the amount of sperm released in the act of sex, the one that helped make us finding it's way to an egg ready to be fertilized, and the 60% to 75% likelihood that the embryo wouldn't survive the first few weeks of pregnancy, all of us won a lottery with insane odds. Science boggles the mind again.
However, an important biological feature of human embryos has been left out of a lot of ethical and even scientific discussion informing reproductive policy – most human embryos die before anyone, including doctors, even know they exist. This embryo loss typically occurs in the first two months after fertilization, before the clump of cells has developed into a fetus with immature forms of the body’s major organs. Total abortion bans that define personhood at conception mean that full legal rights exist for a 5-day-old blastocyst, a hollow ball of cells roughly 0.008 inches (0.2 millimeters) across with a high likelihood of disintegrating within a few days.
https://theconversation.com/most-hu...-to-take-this-embryo-loss-into-account-187904
"Confusion is understandable; disrespect is not."Oh you said Karmala because that’s not actually her name! I get it. Good one!
Friend, I didn't bother to read the message. Let's talk respectfully to each other. Have a good day.Way to go with scientifically missing the f*cking point. Trying to science your way into devaluing human life is to miss the point entirely of what our problem is. Did you know that scientifically humans are 60 percent water? With that in mind, can I drink you like a Vampire? What’s the problem, I’m JUST drinking water! Do you see why we can’t f*cking science our way into being our f*cking values?
The value of human life is something we put intrinsic value in to keep from chaos in our society. Abortions push the line of what we define as a human life. Is it fine since they’re so young that they can’t argue for themselves? Since they can’t vote? If fetuses could vote I guarantee Democrats would become pro life in a nanosecond. Stop pushing the line of morality, just stop it. I can understand the extreme situations where abortions could be considered when the mother’s life is in jeopardy and such cases, but we need to ****ing stop pushing it as some cure all to the point you can get them at the DNC.
If the embryo dies, it has been aborted spontaneously, my friend. It seems many are not familiar with the whole process of birth on here. Have a fine day.So what you're saying is that if an embryo dies before the doctors know about it, it has a zero chance of being aborted?
Can a doctor perform an abortion without the mother knowing about it?
And there's a huge difference between an embryo dying in the womb and being surgically removed from the womb.
That's some great liberal, scientific mush you linked.....but it really doesn't support the stupid assertion that you made. Based on what you posted, are we to conclude that since 100% of people die, we should just go ahead and kill them first?
Bravo.....
There is a huuuuge difference between an embryo dying naturally and having a little help from a pill or medical procedure.If the embryo dies, it has been aborted spontaneously, my friend. It seems many are not familiar with the whole process of birth on here. Have a fine day.
Embryos are not surgically removed from the womb unless there's some kind of problem, friend. I believe you're talking about a fetus.
Well, I'm not a biologist. But I do have enough common sense to know the difference between something naturally dying and something being killed. Obviously you don't or you just choose to ignore the fact and look up some shitty science that supports your unsupportable position.If the embryo dies, it has been aborted spontaneously, my friend. It seems many are not familiar with the whole process of birth on here. Have a fine day.
Embryos are not surgically removed from the womb unless there's some kind of problem, friend. I believe you're talking about a fetus.
"Stupidity is understandable, ignorance is not""Confusion is understandable; disrespect is not."
You seem to be angry friend. Let's put this one aside. Have a good day.Well, I'm not a biologist. But I do have enough common sense to know the difference between something naturally dying and something being killed. Obviously you don't or you just choose to ignore the fact and look up some shitty science that supports your unsupportable position.
I'm just saying that it is rare to have a surgery or even a procedure with medical abortions during the embryonic stage. I think you probably are referring to the second trimester abortions which account for less than ten percent of abortions. My apologies if you misunderstood me or I'm misunderstanding you.There is a huuuuge difference between an embryo dying naturally and having a little help from a pill or medical procedure.
Heck, if we use the justification to abort that it isn’t life or life hasn’t begun, how long will it be that we decide that old people or people with terminal illnesses are no longer a viable life and should be terminated because they have become an inconvenience? We are headed in that direction as a society and it has to stop.
I didn’t misunderstand , just can’t imagine trying to justify even the 10%.I'm just saying that it is rare to have a surgery or even a procedure with medical abortions during the embryonic stage. I think you probably are referring to the second trimester abortions which account for less than ten percent of abortions. My apologies if you misunderstood me or I'm misunderstanding you.
Yes, I do. But the reality is we make choices that prevent some child from being a part of our lives all the time. It's a very divisive subject and often times men have a very different perspective on it than women. And what we ask of women is very different than what is asked of men.I didn’t misunderstand , just can’t imagine trying to justify even the 10%.
Personal question, do you have children or siblings? If so, I assume that you love them. Can you imagine not having them in your life because someone decided to abort out of inconvenience? Can you imagine societies loss by not having these aborted children being in our lives?
That’s kind of like Adam blaming Eve when confronted by God. 🤷♂️Yes, I do. But the reality is we make choices that prevent some child from being a part of our lives all the time. It's a very divisive subject and often times men have a very different perspective on it than women. And what we ask of women is very different than what is asked of men.
Respeckt"Confusion is understandable; disrespect is not."
Not following. But let me ask you a question: Do you adopt?That’s kind of like Adam blaming Eve when confronted by God. 🤷♂️
WOW thats the way you look at it? Since half die another way, its just makes it ok that the other half is murdered?Likely they were mostly embryos.
Did you know that well over half of all embryos die without anyone, including a doctor or mother knowing?
Considering the amount of sperm released in the act of sex, the one that helped make us finding it's way to an egg ready to be fertilized, and the 60% to 75% likelihood that the embryo wouldn't survive the first few weeks of pregnancy, all of us won a lottery with insane odds. Science boggles the mind again.
However, an important biological feature of human embryos has been left out of a lot of ethical and even scientific discussion informing reproductive policy – most human embryos die before anyone, including doctors, even know they exist. This embryo loss typically occurs in the first two months after fertilization, before the clump of cells has developed into a fetus with immature forms of the body’s major organs. Total abortion bans that define personhood at conception mean that full legal rights exist for a 5-day-old blastocyst, a hollow ball of cells roughly 0.008 inches (0.2 millimeters) across with a high likelihood of disintegrating within a few days.
https://theconversation.com/most-hu...-to-take-this-embryo-loss-into-account-187904
Fair enough. As far as I’m aware none of us are in political positions to decide things in this regard or make decisions, so it’s all in the effort of understanding and portraying the nuance issues as they are so that we can come to better understanding of each other. Though some advice friend which you can take or leave, if you wanna discuss the very serious discussion of Abortion, be prepared for push back as this is a matter of life and death for us. Have a wonderful day and Go Dawgs!Friend, I didn't bother to read the message. Let's talk respectfully to each other. Have a good day.
Didn’t expect you to follow. No I don’t adopt but know several people who have and are willing to adopt even more.Not following. But let me ask you a question: Do you adopt?