Election Fraud and Litigation Mega Thread

[willdup]

It seems clear that accusations of election fraud, along with various voting related shenanigans, are going to play a prominent role in 2024 just as they did in 2020. With that in mind, I am creating a thread to document and track the various activities and accusations related to election fraud. That way we can have it all in one place and it will be far easier to provide updates as they occur.

This includes any violence or other related activities at our near polling locations.

I'll start us off, although there is plenty from the last few days to add. All contributions welcome.

 

[poorpreacher]

I'll be honest, I'm not a big election fraud guy, because I think its almost impossible to prove.

Do I think it happens? Yes. But politics prevent proof, in my opinion. Despite the party, I mean.

Evidence will usually be rejected, ignored, deemed insufficient, etc.

So there is no reason to get torn up about election fraud claims. Nothing is going to come out of it, even if its legit.

 

[zingerdawg]

I'll be honest, I'm not a big election fraud guy, because I think its almost impossible to prove.

Do I think it happens? Yes. But politics prevent proof, in my opinion. Despite the party, I mean.

Evidence will usually be rejected, ignored, deemed insufficient, etc.

So there is no reason to get torn up about election fraud claims. Nothing is going to come out of it, even if its legit.

I couldn’t agree more. Yes it is important to have secure elections. And for people to believe in the process. More and more money rides on the outcomes of these things each time around. There is no way someone isn’t thinking of a way to beat the system. I mean damn, it is the American way everywhere else. I need a scheme to make easy money. Who needs hard work these days.

No court wants to touch it. Hell the Supreme Court is conservative for sure these days. They told Trump not to send it their way. You won’t like what happens.

Common sense tells you too many firsts happened in the last election for something not to be up. Both sides when they lose now are claiming elections are stolen. (Big stace and Killary, Trump too). This isn’t good either way. My least favorite Trump strategy. It is what it is unfortunately

 

[NavyDawg22]

I couldn’t agree more. Yes it is important to have secure elections. And for people to believe in the process. More and more money rides on the outcomes of these things each time around. There is no way someone isn’t thinking of a way to beat the system. I mean damn, it is the American way everywhere else. I need a scheme to make easy money. Who needs hard work these days.

No court wants to touch it. Hell the Supreme Court is conservative for sure these days. They told Trump not to send it their way. You won’t like what happens.

Common sense tells you too many firsts happened in the last election for something not to be up. Both sides when they lose now are claiming elections are stolen. (Big stace and Killary, Trump too). This isn’t good either way. My least favorite Trump strategy. It is what it is unfortunately

Paper ballots and counting. No more machines guys.

 

[-lowcountrydawg]

I couldn’t agree more. Yes it is important to have secure elections. And for people to believe in the process. More and more money rides on the outcomes of these things each time around. There is no way someone isn’t thinking of a way to beat the system. I mean damn, it is the American way everywhere else. I need a scheme to make easy money. Who needs hard work these days.

No court wants to touch it. Hell the Supreme Court is conservative for sure these days. They told Trump not to send it their way. You won’t like what happens.

Common sense tells you too many firsts happened in the last election for something not to be up. Both sides when they lose now are claiming elections are stolen. (Big stace and Killary, Trump too). This isn’t good either way. My least favorite Trump strategy. It is what it is unfortunately

I don't believe there is crazy ass / wild election fraud, but it does exist at some level. My issue is that if you even suggest it is possible, you are labeled an election-denier, etc, etc. It is ridiculous that given all the technology and info we have, we can't simply execute a fool-proof system where we know everyone that is voting is an eligible voter, who they voted for gets counted, and it gets counted one time.

We should put elections in the hands of independent CPA firms, subject to all the scrutiny and transparency that comes with that. Too many competing interests in our government, both state and fed, and even in the judicial branch with politically appointed judges.

 

[NavyDawg22]

I don't believe there is crazy ass / wild election fraud, but it does exist at some level. My issue is that if you even suggest it is possible, you are labeled an election-denier, etc, etc. It is ridiculous that given all the technology and info we have, we can't simply execute a fool-proof system where we know everyone that is voting is an eligible voter, who they voted for gets counted, and it gets counted one time.

Do you know anything about computers because I do computer stuff for a living and its so easy to change database information. It literally takes seconds or less depending on how many rows of information.

Since you do not do paper counts and your paper vote disappears into the machine never to be seen again what gives you or anyone else any confidence that what you voted for is what the final tally represents on the electronic count?

So many stupid people on here that don't understand basic computer stuff. My God people wake the eff up! Paper counts are the only way to get election integrity back. WIthout that stopping all this other fraud is just noise.

 

[Lava-Man]

Colorado Secretary of State posted spreadsheet with voting system passwords

 

[DallasDawg225]

Colorado Secretary of State posted spreadsheet with voting system passwords

You can’t fix stupid. 🤦🏻‍♂️

 

[willdup]

I think disrupting a polling location counts as election interference.

 

[Lava-Man]

1. House Republicans Subpoena ActBlue Records Over Alleged Foreign Election Interference Activities
   
   • “We cannot allow foreign actors to influence our elections through campaign financing.”
2. Judge Kills Case That Would Require Pennsylvania To Verify Overseas Voters’ Identities
   
   • Without identity verification of UOCAVA voters, elections are subject to manipulation by foreign nations
3. California Election Officials Registered ‘Self-Confessed’ Noncitizens To Vote: Report
   
   • Registrars in Alameda County, California, have approved dozens of voter registrations from “self-confessed foreign nationals” — some of which tried to vote
4. BUSTED: The Inside Story Of How The Kamala Harris Campaign Manipulates Reddit (And Breaks The Rules) To Control The Platform
   
   • Part one of an investigation into how the Harris-Walz campaign is manipulating social media sites to artificially boost their popularity, spread election disinformation, and skirt election laws
5. ‘Block Community Notes We Don’t Like’: Harris Campaign Caught Red-Handed Manipulating X To Censor Criticism
   
   • Part two of an investigation into how the Harris-Walz campaign is manipulating social media sites to artificially boost their popularity, spread election disinformation, and skirt election laws
6. Harris Campaign Recruits Foreign Volunteers, Tells Noncitizens How To Skirt Donation Rules
   
   • Part three of an investigation into how the Harris-Walz campaign is manipulating social media sites to artificially boost their popularity, spread election disinformation, and skirt election laws
7. Nevada Supreme Court Orders Counting Mail Ballots Without Postmark After Election Day
   
   • Unlike most states, Nevada requires local clerks to automatically mail a ballot to all individuals listed on the state’s active voter registration list during each election cycle
8. These Electorally At-Risk Democrats Won’t Commit To Certifying A Trump Victory
   
   • Several Democrats listed as some of the most vulnerable by The New York Times won’t say whether they will commit to certifying a Trump victory. If they were Republicans, they might be prosecuted
9. Democrats In North Carolina’s Helene Disaster Area Block Emergency Early Voting Locations
   
   • Democrats blocking the early voting sites gives credence to concerns that the left is trying to suppress the vote in the deep-red area.
10. Here Are States Where The Biden-Harris Admin Blocked Efforts To Ensure Only Citizens Vote In Elections
    
    • The Biden-Harris administration is engaging in obstruction and outright abuse of power to prevent us from removing noncitizens from our voter rolls,’ Ohio Secretary of State LaRose said.
11. Noncitizen ID Can Be Used To Vote, Says Proposed Wisconsin Election Commission Guidance
    
    • The feckless state elections regulator plans to issue guidance on temporary visitor IDs, a potential election integrity problem for years
12. What Happened to These PA Voters' Mail-In Ballots?
    
    • Many Pennsylvania voters are reporting that they still have not received their mail-in ballots days away from the 2024 election. Where they went missing — some in critical deep-red counties — is particularly alarming

 

[Athens is Heaven]

I think disrupting a polling location counts as election interference.

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You’re right just like what happened in I think it was banks county in Pa. A so called poll worker was blocking people from voting by saying that the precinct was closing at 2pm instead of 5pm.

 

[Lava-Man]

1. Biden-Harris DHS Admin Funds Effort To ‘Sway The Outcome’ Of Elections By Naturalizing Immigrants
   
   • The National Partnership for New Americans said immigrant voters are a 'sleeping political giant'
2. Non-Citizen From China Charged After Casting Ballot In Michigan. His Vote Will Still Count.
   
   • Michigan's voter ID law allows people to show a current "student photo ID card from an educational institution."

 

[Don Ellis]

This thread should be insanely entertaining

 

[Athens is Heaven]

This thread should be insanely entertaining

I don’t care if it’s Republicans or Democrats if they are caught they should be prosecuted and put in jail. There is no excuse for this bs.

 

[-lowcountrydawg]

I think disrupting a polling location counts as election interference.

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The projection of that Dumbass redneck as representative of trump voters is a big stretch. Idiots on both sides. Girl yesterday in line told my first time voting son that he shouldn’t vote for trump because trump would draft him into a war.

 

[Lava-Man]

Thanks to @Zonadog 's explanation below why this is not an accurate video.

 

[Lava-Man]

 

[poorpreacher]

I couldn’t agree more. Yes it is important to have secure elections. And for people to believe in the process. More and more money rides on the outcomes of these things each time around. There is no way someone isn’t thinking of a way to beat the system. I mean damn, it is the American way everywhere else. I need a scheme to make easy money. Who needs hard work these days.

No court wants to touch it. Hell the Supreme Court is conservative for sure these days. They told Trump not to send it their way. You won’t like what happens.

Common sense tells you too many firsts happened in the last election for something not to be up. Both sides when they lose now are claiming elections are stolen. (Big stace and Killary, Trump too). This isn’t good either way. My least favorite Trump strategy. It is what it is unfortunately

No court is going to touch it is EXACTLY what I was talking about.

Its easier to allow the fraud, than to address it. Nobody wants their name all over the news, or to have paid protesters outside their private residences. The consequences for correction are too great.

 

[willdup]

No court is going to touch it is EXACTLY what I was talking about.

Its easier to allow the fraud, than to address it. Nobody wants their name all over the news, or to have paid protesters outside their private residences. The consequences for correction are too great.

It seems the courts do actually address election fraud, at least some of the time.

 

[nice marmot]

Do you know anything about computers because I do computer stuff for a living and its so easy to change database information.

"computer stuff"

 

[NavyDawg22]

"computer stuff"

I put in very complicated software for the largest companies in America. So yes, I do a lot of "computer stuff"

Anyways, getting a programmer to write code to flip votes would not be difficult. You could access this directly onto the database via the internet or logging in or you could write code to change the file on a memory stick. Either way it would not be difficult to do especially if you have access through either having the password, being an administrator, the company that supplies the machines or the company that services and/or transports the memory sticks/key fobs, etc.

You sound like a novice in these things which might explain some of your naive posts.

 

[nice marmot]

I put in very complicated software for the largest companies in America. So yes, I do a lot of "computer stuff"

Anyways, getting a programmer to write code to flip votes would not be difficult. You could access this directly onto the database via the internet or logging in or you could write code to change the file on a memory stick. Either way it would not be difficult to do especially if you have access through either having the password, being an administrator, the company that supplies the machines or the company that services and/or transports the memory sticks/key fobs, etc.

You sound like a novice in these things which might explain some of your naive posts.

Well.... you've sounded like a maniac the past few days. Maybe turn off the AM radio.

 

[shonuff253]

Well.... you've sounded like a maniac the past few days. Maybe turn off the AM radio.

I bet he's a listener of Coast to Coast AM.

MAGA is nothing more than a hodgepodge collection of C2CAM, Solider of Fortune backpacks and QAnon. True conservatives no longer have any relevancy in this new GOP.

 

[Don Ellis]

The election process in this country could most certainly use some finetuning .

Whatever happened to scantrons.

 

[Zonadog]

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That video is a trick, but the reported incidents in Kentucky are real. All center around Ballot Marking Devices like the ones used in Georgia.

In the video, the demonstrator is trying to press the check box. Instructions and signs posted around the BMD's tell you to press the candidate's name, not the little box. Then you see the person switch hands and try it with his left hand. Zooming in really close, so that most of his hand is offscreen, we see Harris selected while he continues to try to hit the little box next to Trump. Harris appears because with his offscreen pinky, he selects the Democratic Party box just to the left of the candidates. Checking a party line box selects all of your preferred party candidates.

Videos like this confuse the issue. There are, however, legitimate issues with Kentucky BMD's reported by voters. Article linked, below.

At Least 6 Kentucky Counties Report Issues with Ballot Marking Machines

Bottom line is that touch screens are notoriously unreliable in a public use environment. If you have to use a BMD to vote, you must ALWAYS verify your printed selections before having the printout scanned in a tabulator.

 

[Savannah_Dawg]

It seems clear that accusations of election fraud, along with various voting related shenanigans, are going to play a prominent role in 2024 just as they did in 2020. With that in mind, I am creating a thread to document and track the various activities and accusations related to election fraud. That way we can have it all in one place and it will be far easier to provide updates as they occur.

This includes any violence or other related activities at our near polling locations.

I'll start us off, although there is plenty from the last few days to add. All contributions welcome.

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Weird how voting machine glitches are always in the favor of Democrats. So weird how that happens

 

[Savannah_Dawg]

 

[Zonadog]

The election process in this country could most certainly use some finetuning .

Whatever happened to scantrons.

ScanTron is still around, used mostly in school testing. Same technology as ballot scanners/tabulators.

 

[Athens is Heaven]

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Weird how voting machine glitches are always in the favor of Democrats. So weird how that happens

Wonder why? Hmmmmmm!

 

[Lava-Man]

That video is a trick, but the reported incidents in Kentucky are real. All center around Ballot Marking Devices like the ones used in Georgia.

In the video, the demonstrator is trying to press the check box. Instructions and signs posted around the BMD's tell you to press the candidate's name, not the little box. Then you see the person switch hands and try it with his left hand. Zooming in really close, so that most of his hand is offscreen, we see Harris selected while he continues to try to hit the little box next to Trump. Harris appears because with his offscreen pinky, he selects the Democratic Party box just to the left of the candidates. Checking a party line box selects all of your preferred party candidates.

Videos like this confuse the issue. There are, however, legitimate issues with Kentucky BMD's reported by voters. Article linked, below.

At Least 6 Kentucky Counties Report Issues with Ballot Marking Machines

Bottom line is that touch screens are notoriously unreliable in a public use environment. If you have to use a BMD to vote, you must ALWAYS verify your printed selections before having the printout scanned in a tabulator.

Thanks for clarifying. That's good info.

 

[agentorange70]

I think disrupting a polling location counts as election interference.

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If I was an election worker in this toxic political climate,...I would not make a "citizens arrest" on a voter about a maga hat or a camo Harris/walz hat even if it was state law, just like I wouldn't make a citizens arrest on a jaywalker,...laws should not be enforced by citizens even if they are glorified poll workers,

 

[Zonadog]

Colorado Secretary of State posted spreadsheet with voting system passwords

 

[Lava-Man]

Of Note:

• Of course this is ignored by those self-proclaimed 'Defenders of Democracy!'
• Of course nobody is calling him fascist or a "threat to democracy".

In his own words:



Context:

Jamie Raskin Wants to Use the 14th Amendment on January 6, 2025, to Keep Trump out of Office if He Wins

“And so, you know, they want to kick it to Congress. So it’s going to be up to us on January 6th, 2025 to tell the rampaging Trump mobs that he’s disqualified. And then we need bodyguards for everybody and civil war conditions, all because the nine justices, not all of them, but these justices who have not many cases to look at every year, not that much work to do, a huge staff, great protection, simply do not want to do their job and interpret what the great 14th Amendment means.”

The complete lack of consistency here is not surprising and completely gives the game away.

 

[Don Ellis]

Of Note:

• Of course this is ignored by those self-proclaimed 'Defenders of Democracy!'
• Of course nobody is calling him fascist or a "threat to democracy".

In his own words:



Context:

Jamie Raskin Wants to Use the 14th Amendment on January 6, 2025, to Keep Trump out of Office if He Wins

“And so, you know, they want to kick it to Congress. So it’s going to be up to us on January 6th, 2025 to tell the rampaging Trump mobs that he’s disqualified. And then we need bodyguards for everybody and civil war conditions, all because the nine justices, not all of them, but these justices who have not many cases to look at every year, not that much work to do, a huge staff, great protection, simply do not want to do their job and interpret what the great 14th Amendment means.”

The complete lack of consistency here is not surprising and completely gives the game away.

Hahahaha Geezus

 

[Zonadog]

It seems the courts do actually address election fraud, at least some of the time.

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Now let's look at the facts in this case.

This is not "breaking." The decision was announced in March.

Kim Zapata's political affiliation has not been mentioned, and was not a factor in the charges against her.

On November 1, 2022, Zapata approached Milwaukee Elections Director Claire Woodall-Vogg at work and admitted that “she had created three fraudulent voters and used that fraudulent information to send three ballots to Republican state representative Janel Brandtjen. Zapata told Woodall-Vogg that she made up the identities of the voters and sent them to show how easy it is to commit fraud in this manner.”

Zapata was convicted in March by a Milwaukee County jury on a felony charge of misconduct in public office and three misdemeanor counts of making a false statement to obtain an absentee ballot. She told investigators that she sent the military ballots to Rep. Brandtjen to highlight a real gap in the election system. "All three voter records had the same birthday entered and all three ballots were requested by the same address within a 20 minute window.”

Nothing in the Wisconsin voter registration system flagged the issue. It came to light when reported by Representative Brandtjen.

Brandtjen testified that she believed at first that the ballots were sent to her in an effort to discredit her campaign, adding that she is not "well loved" in Milwaukee.

Zapata was fired and given probation with a $3,000 fine. The judge said she did not think that Zapata acted with malicious intent.

Despite this case, which illustrated how anyone could register a fake identity with a fake address and receive a military mail in ballot, the weakness in Wisconsin's voter registration has not been corrected.

 

[Dawg 'n IT]

I think disrupting a polling location counts as election interference.

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First, that guy is an ignorant SOB looking for a fight.

Second, the irony that election security isn't a priority in this country plays with this example of voter and volunteer security not being a priority either.

We get what we deserve I guess.

 

[Savannah_Dawg]

 

[Dawg 'n IT]

"computer stuff"

Anyone who understands the MVC design pattern or has a rudimentary understanding of cybersecurity already knows computerized elections are operating in a vulnerable and likely compromised state.

As I posted several times in 2020 and 2021, election security isn't fundamentally a political issue. That's why Democrats and Republicans alike used to be concerned about it. The big question is why have they dropped it as a priority without having addressed concerns?

What measures exist to validate the function of each piece of equipment that handles each vote from voter input to certified tally?

 

[nice marmot]

I bet he's a listener of Coast to Coast AM.

MAGA is nothing more than a hodgepodge collection of C2CAM, Solider of Fortune backpacks and QAnon. True conservatives no longer have any relevancy in this new GOP.

old school Coast to Coast with Art Bell was a lifesaver driving from Albuquerque to LA at the turn of the century, not gonna lie.

 

[Savannah_Dawg]

I bet he's a listener of Coast to Coast AM.

MAGA is nothing more than a hodgepodge collection of C2CAM, Solider of Fortune backpacks and QAnon. True conservatives no longer have any relevancy in this new GOP.

Bs. But also the modern day Democrat party is so far to the left that there is no room for anyone even near the center. Ultra woke only need apply.