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I liked your post because I agree with your last paragraph. That said, Northam is a pediatric surgeon by trade. His error was in thinking you could have a delicate conversation in the political space without it being distorted and “sound bited.” Some babies are born with such severe deformities that the best you can do for them is pain medication and other comfort. It’s an awful situation for any newborn mother to be in, and we should not judge her for not wanting to rip the newborn open for surgeries that have a less than 1% chance of success. This is where the pro-choice position proves its the correct way to lean. Because this isn’t about murderous parents or doctors but people making terribly difficult decisions including decisions between continuing suffering or not. Whatever you think your individual decision as a parent in that moment would be, it certainly shouldn’t be the government’s.
I think everyone understands where he was trying to go but he was being asked about a pending bill that everyone in America knows is controversial and would be sound bited to death. Surgeon or not, he allowed himself to be grouped with what I hope is a small minority of radical dems that want what I would consider to be radical deregulation of abortion.

I don't think Trump's point was Northam was a radical but that some dems (KH being one of them) are out of the mainstream on unlimited abortion access. Imo, Trump's statement about Northam's comments were about as truthful as Harris saying Trump would sign an abortion ban. The only abortion "ban" I've seen that Trump has supported was after 15 weeks with exceptions. If the mods were going to call out Trump for making a specious point, they should have called out Harris for lying as well.
 
Last night during the debate, @ABC said that late-term abortions don’t happen. The CDC says there are more than 11,000 per year in the US.

7 states and DC do not have legal limits on when during a pregnancy an abortion can take place.
6 states have constitutional amendments on their ballots that would allow abortions at any point during pregnancy. Five more amendment proposals would allow abortions up to viability, or 22-24 weeks.

The proposed "Women's Health Protection Act" as endorsed by Harris, would allow abortions at any point during pregnancy in all states, taxpayer funded.

The following took place in Colorado.

 
Truthfully that was the worst fact check of all. My understanding is some municipalities no longer share their crime data with FBI and this list is growing longer. So yes, the REPORTED crime to FBI is down but overall crime is certainly up . This has been discussed before by several pundits, just an egregious intentional error.
 
Truthfully that was the worst fact check of all. My understanding is some municipalities no longer share their crime data with FBI and this list is growing longer. So yes, the REPORTED crime to FBI is down but overall crime is certainly up . This has been discussed before by several pundits, just an egregious intentional error.
 
No one said late term abortions don't happen.

They said infanticide (Live babies being born and then killed) doesn't happen.
UM CHECK YOUR SOURCES…5 died in one state alone before a new state law was passed..but you will never find noe hear about that in the garbage you watch or listen to…but yes, 5 born babies were killed before the new law

 
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UM CHECK YOUR SOURCES…5 died in one state alone before a new state law was passed..but you will never find noe hear about that in the garbage you watch or listen to…but yes, 5 born babies were killed before the new law

People can believe what they want to believe and people with a rooting interest will say what they want to say. I'd rather get back to normalcy. Enjoy.
 
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People can believe what they want to believe and people with a rooting interest will say what they want to say. I'd rather get back to normalcy. Enjoy.
Believe what they want? WOW! You believe what you are told obviously. The records are right there to dispute your claims, ,but you just keep believing what you want.
 
Believe what they want? WOW! You believe what you are told obviously. The records are right there to dispute your claims, ,but you just keep believing what you want.
I just think this stuff is pointless. If you're a Trump supporter at this point, you're gonna believe what you want because of how he runs his show. He says it, it's true. Normalcy would be good. Normalcy would have put a Republican in the WH. Instead, you're likely going to lose to a candidate that wasn't even running a few months ago. This place, as crazy as it is, went up about ten degrees in heat once Biden stepped down and Harris was the nominee. It's obvious why.
 
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Truthfully that was the worst fact check of all. My understanding is some municipalities no longer share their crime data with FBI and this list is growing longer. So yes, the REPORTED crime to FBI is down but overall crime is certainly up . This has been discussed before by several pundits, just an egregious intentional error.
I guess these district attorneys are giving the data to Soros who got them their position to start with.
 
No one said late term abortions don't happen.

They said infanticide (Live babies being born and then killed) doesn't happen.
The problem with that is Trump didn't claim they did. He attributed a remark to Northam in West Virginia, that they would "decide what to do with the baby." Northam left himself open to that criticism of his position. He also cited Walz, who signed a law allowing abortion at any time, and removing reporting requirements about live births. That is objectively true. Trump said that he had an issue with "abortion in the ninth month."

Linsey Davis then countered with "There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born." That is not what Trump said. He was given no chance to respond as Davis immediately asked Harris to respond to Davis's criticism of Trump.

In general, I believe that if the moderators are going to get involved in debate points, the candidates should be able to respond to their remarks. I think that would give us a much better understanding of each candidate's position. Of course, I'm also going to say that if you intend to allow moderators to enter the debate as well as ask the questions, they should address their observations to both sides. Harris was never really questioned at all on her false statements.

Even the question that led us down this path was phrased as an attack on Trump's position. This is how she framed the question:

In your home state of Florida, you surprised many with regard to your six-week abortion ban because you initially had said that it was too short and you said, "I'm going to be voting that we need more than six weeks." But then the very next day, you reversed course and said you would vote to support the six-week ban. Vice President Harris says that women shouldn’t trust you on the issue of abortion because you’ve changed your position so many times. Therefore, why should they trust you?

The reality, for anyone that takes the time to understand his actual position is that he thinks it should be around 15-16 weeks with exceptions, before viability and gives the mother a reasonable opportunity to make a decision. The choice given to Florida voters, however, is between a law that says 6 weeks or a constitutional amendment that says no limit.

A law can be modified by the legislature at any time. A constitutional amendment would not allow for modification in the law. In that scenario, if you want an answer somewhere in the middle, as Trump has stated, you would be compelled to vote against the amendment and lobby the legislature to loosen up their time frame in the law. That is where he stands, which is logical and consistent. He has not "reversed course" at all.

Further, the question conflates his personal opinion with his policy. His policy is that abortion law is up to the states to decide, not the federal government. Therefore there should be no federal ban on abortion.

When it came time to ask Harris about her position, the question from Davis was: Vice President Harris, I want to give you your time to respond. But I do want to ask, would you support any restrictions on a woman's right to an abortion?

See the difference? The question was posed to Trump as a criticism of his position. The question was asked to Harris in a straight forward manner, and even assumed that abortion is a right (the left wing position). My question is why weren't they both asked the question in the same simple, straight forward manner: Would you support any restrictions on abortion?
 
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For anyone laboring under the misconception that in the states that permit late term abortion, these procedures are either "rare" or only occur under extreme circumstances, please listen to the entire video, below. Please note that the clinic employee refers to "the products of conception." In normal conversation we call this "product" a baby.

 
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People can believe what they want to believe and people with a rooting interest will say what they want to say. I'd rather get back to normalcy. Enjoy.
LOL so you admit you only believe things that agree with you no matter what the facts are. Yeah sounds normal for a dim. Enjoy it out there in la la land. LMBO
 
Here are the facts spoken by Kamala on video. Fact check this dims.

 
I just think this stuff is pointless. If you're a Trump supporter at this point, you're gonna believe what you want because of how he runs his show. He says it, it's true. Normalcy would be good. Normalcy would have put a Republican in the WH. Instead, you're likely going to lose to a candidate that wasn't even running a few months ago. This place, as crazy as it is, went up about ten degrees in heat once Biden stepped down and Harris was the nominee. It's obvious why.
Because Harris is awful?
 
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Because Harris is awful?
Because you all will continue to believe you're living in Orwell's 1984 and are afraid you're gonna lose. Harris may be awful, but she's gonna win because you nominated a terrible candidate who already lost. There's a reason Cleveland is the only POTUS to be voted out of office and still win again. And he won the popular vote in every election he ran in. Trump has never gotten 47% of the vote. Even Romney did that against a much stronger candidate than Trump has ever run against.
 
Because you all will continue to believe you're living in Orwell's 1984. Harris may be awful, but she's gonna win because you nominated a terrible candidate who already lost. There's a reason Cleveland is the only POTUS to be voted out of office and still win again. And he won the popular vote in every election he ran in. Trump has never gotten 47% of the vote. Even Romney did that against a much stronger candidate than Trump has ever run against.
Mkay. If Trump is so bad , why was Biden removed? Why is Harris not blowing him away? I think people are tired of this shit and Harris loses.
 
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Mkay. If Trump is so bad , why was Biden removed? Why is Harris not blowing him away? I think people are tired of this shit and Harris loses.
1. Trump is a bad candidate because he has no ceiling and does not want to make one. He is only concerned with his floor, so for a lot of independent voters the choice then becomes how bad they think Harris is. There is no positive with Trump.

2. Trump is a bad candidate to Democrats because there is legitimate fear of what he would do in a second term. This is not your normal candidate. If Haley were running, I doubt Biden would have been pressured to step down. Democrats would have just taken the loss and tried again in four years. Harris wouldn't have wanted to take that loss just to make it a closer race as it would have ended her chance of running later.

3. Harris is not blowing him away because she's not a great candidate and has only been running for POTUS for a couple of months. Shouldn't this question be the opposite?

4. People are indeed tired of shit. As a Republican friend told me a few days ago (and he will vote for Trump), "Trump has taken over the Republican party, has made conspiracy theories main stream and will lose an easily winnable election because more than half of the American public believes he's FOS."
 
4. People are indeed tired of shit. As a Republican friend told me a few days ago (and he will vote for Trump), "Trump has taken over the Republican party, has made conspiracy theories main stream and will lose an easily winnable election because more than half of the American public believes he's FOS
Isn't it funny how many of these conspiracies end up being true?

 
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