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Huge Desantis Fan, but Don't Love The Latest Move

I have an honest question for you. No disrespect meant. I just want to know the opinion of someone on the other side of the table from me. Why do children under 7 years of age need for their teacher to discuss sexual orientation with them at school? I’m asking based on “the whole” of the students who make up that demographic. Not the 1% of the 1% of the 1%. I just simply don’t understand why that topic needs to be broached in that setting. Additionally, what formal training do teachers have to support the idea that they can appropriately present the material to children of such vastly different demographic backgrounds?
Finally, how can we be sure that we are not doing more harm than good by doing so? What true evidence exists that tells us we need to make this happen for the betterment of our future society?
JC
Could it be the 1% of the 1% number is due to the societal shame people push on the LGBTQ community? I mean look at this thread right here. Many here are pushing that just mentioning two men or two women can love each other is somehow grooming and being a sexual predator or enabling pedos...again a lot of misplaced sexual issues going on here.
 
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What is your definition of grooming because you've mentioned it numerous times even saying anyone talking to their children about sex equated to grooming.



Straight up my son is 8 now and when he was 5 he asked where babies come from so we explained it to him on a level he could understand. We told him boys have different "private parts" than girls and when they're older and find someone they love, they can have a special hug and create a baby. You know what he said afterwards...ok. Then told him sometimes boys fall in love with boys and girls fall in love with girls and that's ok. Know what he said afterward...ok. This crazy over the board pedo talk again sounds like a lot of projection to me🤔
You are his parents. That is your right. So once again, please tell me why a teacher needs to talk to a five year old about sex and gender identity?

This is why its grooming and there are tons of other examples by these freaks.

 
Could it be the 1% of the 1% number is due to the societal shame people push on the LGBTQ community? I mean look at this thread right here. Many here are pushing that just mentioning two men or two women can love each other is somehow grooming and being a sexual predator or enabling pedos...again a lot of misplaced sexual issues going on here.
Once again, why does a five year old need to be taught about sex and gender identity by a teacher? Answer the damn question and stop deflecting.

If a parent wants to do that great, but a teacher needs to stay out of it.
 
Could it be the 1% of the 1% number is due to the societal shame people push on the LGBTQ community? I mean look at this thread right here. Many here are pushing that just mentioning two men or two women can love each other is somehow grooming and being a sexual predator or enabling pedos...again a lot of misplaced sexual issues going on here.
So we’re the ones with misplaced sexual issues? Not the emotionally immature teachers who have mental breakdowns when they are not allowed to discuss their bedroom habits to kids in their class? It’s absolutely grooming! They are working to influence children to celebrate their lifestyle. Can you not see that the LGBTQ community desire more people to live their lifestyle? How better to feel accepted than to have more peers? If you don’t think this community is influencing kids to choose their lifestyle, you’re being extremely naive.
 
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You are his parents. That is your right. So once again, please tell me why a teacher needs to talk to a five year old about sex and gender identity?

This is why it's grooming and there are tons of other examples by these freaks.

I may be wrong but TikTok appears to be a teacher coming out at Trans and attempting to explain that. I have no issues with that. You guys are acting like they're reenacting porn in class.
 
Once again, why does a five year old need to be taught about sex and gender identity by a teacher? Answer the damn question and stop deflecting.

If a parent wants to do that great, but a teacher needs to stay out of it.
There's a difference between being groomed and being made aware of something.
 
I may be wrong but TikTok appears to be a teacher coming out at Trans and attempting to explain that. I have no issues with that. You guys are acting like they're reenacting porn in class.
That is not what happened. Stop deflecting.
 
Once again, why does a five year old need to be taught about sex and gender identity by a teacher? Answer the damn question and stop deflecting.

If a parent wants to do that great, but a teacher needs to stay out of it.
And when you say being taught about "sex" are you saying they're demonstrating sex acts to kids in class?
 
And conservatives indoctrinate their kids to hate everyone who are not like them.
Jamele Hill and Louis Farrakhan say Hi.

 
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I asked it multiple times. Once again, why does a teacher need to talk to young children about sex, sexuality, and gender identity?
I have no problem at all discussing gender or even trans. Again is it your assertion that they are discussing sex and when I say discussing sex I mean actual sexual acts with kids in the classroom?
 
Could it be the 1% of the 1% number is due to the societal shame people push on the LGBTQ community? I mean look at this thread right here. Many here are pushing that just mentioning two men or two women can love each other is somehow grooming and being a sexual predator or enabling pedos...again a lot of misplaced sexual issues going on here.
I appreciate that opinion. I disagree. But appreciate your thought process. Can you address the first two questions? I’m not trying to pick a fight here. This is an honest question. I can see no reason that sexuality should be a part of the curriculum of children unless introduced by their parents. And if we choose to do so, I am confident that the huge majority of teachers are not qualified to introduce such material.
JC
 
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I appreciate that opinion. I disagree. But appreciate your thought process. Can you address the first two questions? I’m not trying to pick a fight here. This is an honest question. I can see no reason that sexuality should be a part of the curriculum of children unless introduced by their parents. And if we choose to do so, I am confident that the huge majority of teachers are not qualified to introduce such material.
JC
Hey thanks for the rational and respectful response...thats sorely lacking here most days.

So issue here is think is when people see the words sex or sexuality and confuse how you talk about these issues with kids versus how we do with other adults. They aren't discussing the actual functionality of sex with kids, actual sex acts and if they are I'm against that. But if they're brings awareness saying this is the LGBTQ community I have no issue with that.
 
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Hey thanks for the rational and respectful response...thats sorely lacking here most days.

So issue here is think is when people see the words sex or sexuality and confuse how you talk about these issues with kids versus how we do with other adults. They aren't discussing the actual functionality of sex with kids, actual sex acts and if they are I'm against that. But if they're brings awareness saying this is the LGBTQ community I have no issue with that.
Ok. I’ll accept that opinion. I disagree that we should be discussing any form of sex with children that age. They don’t care and have no biases. We create bias by introducing information to young people who are not capable of independent thinking on such deep subjects. My opinion, but I think the least racist and judge mental group of people in the nation is probably in kindergarten. They just don’t care.
JC
 
Ok. I’ll accept that opinion. I disagree that we should be discussing any form of sex with children that age. They don’t care and have no biases. We create bias by introducing information to young people who are not capable of independent thinking on such deep subjects. My opinion, but I think the least racist and judge mental group of people in the nation is probably in kindergarten. They just don’t care.
JC
No, I agree 100% that they don't care. That was my point in my post when I gave the example of talking to my son about the LGBTQ community, they find it no big deal. It's adults who are injecting their bias into this topic that's creating all the drama. That's why I find this whole discussion of grooming completely silly.
 
No, I agree 100% that they don't care. That was my point in my post when I gave the example of talking to my son about the LGBTQ community, they find it no big deal. It's adults who are injecting their bias into this topic that's creating all the drama. That's why I find this whole discussion of grooming completely silly.
There’s a big difference in you having the discussion with your son and a teacher. When you have the talk you have control over how you influence your son’s views on the topic. Parents don’t have that control when teachers are having that discussion. Too often when teachers have the discussion they present it as a lifestyle that should be celebrated. Often to the extent that giving children the impression that a LGBTQ person is special. Most Christian parents will have a lot different discussion with their kids on the topic. Christians don’t teach their kids to celebrate a sinful lifestyle. Love thy neighbor yes, but not their sin. Teach reading, writing, arithmetic, science, and leave the lifestyle discussion to the parents.
 
I have no problem at all discussing gender or even trans. Again is it your assertion that they are discussing sex and when I say discussing sex I mean actual sexual acts with kids in the classroom?
Young children do not need to have sex and a mental illness discussed in the classroom. Why do liberals want to talk about sex with young kids so badly?
 
Could it be the 1% of the 1% number is due to the societal shame people push on the LGBTQ community? I mean look at this thread right here. Many here are pushing that just mentioning two men or two women can love each other is somehow grooming and being a sexual predator or enabling pedos...again a lot of misplaced sexual issues going on here.
Nobody cares if people are gay. Conservatives only care if you push your agenda onto the innocent children.
 
And conservatives indoctrinate their kids to hate everyone who are not like them.
This thread is hilarious...this is like the satanic panic of the 80's but instead with pedos. Evening mention gay people or explaining sex to kids as "grooming" is ridiculous. There's a lot of projection I suspect going on in this thread 🤔
The problem is that teachers don’t need to be explaining sexuality of any kind at all in the third grade. It doesn’t have anything to do with gay vs straight with me. Teachers need to be teaching academic skills and shouldn’t have the burden of teaching this stuff.
 
Desantis has it figured out. His followers will support him because they are too ignorant to realize he is f’ng them over. It’s the Trump model.
Now do Brandon. Brandon followers are so dumb they will let him destroy our economy and give our country to illegals and praise him till they die because no mean tweets.

The irony of your post is as strong as it gets yet you and the other libs are so blind you don’t even see it. SMH. You folks are hopelessly lost!
 
Don't cross Ron DePutin. He will get revenge.
Now do all the non dims shut down by you left wing haters. The irony of lefty post or maybe it’s just sheer old hypocrisy is ridiculous in this thread. You folks are the most intolerant group on earth.
 
Well this was certainly wrong and, as I just replied elsewhere, pedophiles should be dealt with harshly.

But this has nothing to do with the legislation discussed here.

I'm not taking Disney's side. I intended a discussion of the recent legislation in Florida.
Please read it and highlight what is wrong with it. Please do not give the 360 spinorama dim talking point. It is good legislation that the majority of Floridians support. It’s you outsiders that listen to the msm cnn msnbc and perverted woke dim politicians that have a problem with it. Libs want the ability to indoctrinate children. That is why there is a need for the legislation. Dims are baby killing children grooming pedophiles (the children used to rub my hairy legs bidennis their leader) pedophiles.

If dims don’t want to groom children why are they fighting so hard to teach 5-8 yr olds about lgbtqxyz, tranny’s , gender, are any other sex education? . That is for parents., not the gov and especially not a perverted delusional dim led gov. Bunch of pedophile wackos will have a special place in hell.
 
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Please read it and highlight what is wrong with it. Please do not give the 360 spinorama dim talking point. It is good legislation that the majority of Floridians support. It’s you outsiders that listen to the msm cnn msnbc and perverted woke dim politicians that have a problem with it. Libs want the ability to indoctrinate children. That is why there is a need for the legislation. Dims are baby killing children grooming pedophiles (the children used to rub my hairy legs bidennis their leader) pedophiles.

If dims don’t want to groom children why are they fighting so hard to teach 5-8 yr olds about lgbtqxyz, tranny’s , gender, are any other sex education? . That is for parents., not the gov and especially not a perverted delusional dim led gov. Bunch of pedophile wackos will have a special place in hell.
And you are calling other people intolerant. Look in the mirror.

I was only talking about the legislation regarding the removal of the special districts which included Disney.

The legislation you are talking about only tries to limit free speech. DeSantis is only for free speech if it agrees with what he wants.

And no, there is no need to teach whatever to young children. And pedophiles should be treated harshly, so I am not responding to your crap.
 
No, I agree 100% that they don't care. That was my point in my post when I gave the example of talking to my son about the LGBTQ community, they find it no big deal. It's adults who are injecting their bias into this topic that's creating all the drama. That's why I find this whole discussion of grooming completely silly.

If kids don’t care, then why talk about it at all. My kids and grandkids are taught by traditional methods. Their school’s job is to teach them math, science, English, etc. I can handle the rest. And this is what bothers me about the whole ogbt whatever thing. If someone wants to be a part of that, fine with me. If someone wants to teach that to THEIR kid, knock yourself out. But don’t, and this is always what happens, expect my family to go along. Don’t try to force that on me. I prefer my family attend schools that are focused on learning material that will help them in real subjects, not sexual fringe issues.
 
And you are calling other people intolerant. Look in the mirror.

I was only talking about the legislation regarding the removal of the special districts which included Disney.

The legislation you are talking about only tries to limit free speech. DeSantis is only for free speech if it agrees with what he wants.

And no, there is no need to teach whatever to young children. And pedophiles should be treated harshly, so I am not responding to your crap.
You don’t deserve to be treated any differently than you are treated. You come in in all your smugness and arrogance claiming to be a voice of independence and intelligence. I am sorry I confused which legislation you were talking about but I am struggling to keep up due to spotty internet here in Europe. However, your statement about the so called “don’t say gay” bill shows just what kind of human you are. The shear sickness of you people that think the govr should force the gay/tranny/no gender crap on young children is disputable. The only free speech being limited by that bill is that of perverts that want to spew their woke liberal trash to children in hopes of brainwashing them. If you want to see intolerant go look at the Christian bakers shut down by the gays that couldn’t just use another baker. Their is nothing enlightened or tolerant about the gay movement. Y’all are determined to force that agenda on everyone. I keep my love life in my bedroom. Why must gays throw their perversion out in the middle of the street in broad daylight and demand everyone including young children watch? Yes, they are perverted. It is not natural. No I don’t say anything to anyone in public or even privately about their sin. I don’t want them hunted down and jailed or shot. I just want them to stop trying to force their perversion into main stream.
I will tell you flatly when I will show you real intolerance,, go ahead and try to practice what you think is free speech and talk to one of my grandchildren about that junk.
 
You don’t deserve to be treated any differently than you are treated. You come in in all your smugness and arrogance claiming to be a voice of independence and intelligence. I am sorry I confused which legislation you were talking about but I am struggling to keep up due to spotty internet here in Europe. However, your statement about the so called “don’t say gay” bill shows just what kind of human you are. The shear sickness of you people that think the govr should force the gay/tranny/no gender crap on young children is disputable. The only free speech being limited by that bill is that of perverts that want to spew their woke liberal trash to children in hopes of brainwashing them. If you want to see intolerant go look at the Christian bakers shut down by the gays that couldn’t just use another baker. Their is nothing enlightened or tolerant about the gay movement. Y’all are determined to force that agenda on everyone. I keep my love life in my bedroom. Why must gays throw their perversion out in the middle of the street in broad daylight and demand everyone including young children watch? Yes, they are perverted. It is not natural. No I don’t say anything to anyone in public or even privately about their sin. I don’t want them hunted down and jailed or shot. I just want them to stop trying to force their perversion into main stream.
I will tell you flatly when I will show you real intolerance,, go ahead and try to practice what you think is free speech and talk to one of my grandchildren about that junk.
So if a gay person has any interaction with one of your grandkids you're going to show them "real intolerance"?
 
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