Inside scoop on what happened with Pruitt!

[dieharddawg62]

Ok, here is what I heard directly from someone that is friends with one of the coaches. I'm not going to say which coach. McGarity forced Richt to hire Schotty. In my opinion McGarity lost faith in Richt's ability to pick a competent OC. I don't blame him. Richt basically lost everyone's confidence after last season's debacle...especially the Florida game.

Schotty was a bad hire and it ticked off Pruitt, because he felt like he wasn't doing his job. After the Florida game, Pruitt confronted Schotty about him not doing more to help the QBs. He's an NFL guy and treated QB's like NFL players. Pruitt felt that he was too hands off. Pruitt wanted Richt to go public about Shotty and Richt wouldn't do it. So Pruitt confronted McGarity about Shotty. Of course McGarity wasn't too keen on Pruitt telling him he was doing his job properly.

McGarity actually wanted Richt out last year. McGarity wanted to hire Mullen as the new coach initially, but for some reason it didn't work out. Kirby was his second choice.

This is why McGarity had his feathers ruffled about Pruitt. He needs to get over it. If Kirby would keep Pruitt that needs to happen in my opinion.

There you go...I think it's extremely reliable.

 

[PotimusWillie]

Ok, here is what I heard directly from someone that is friends with one of the coaches. I'm not going to say which coach. McGarity forced Richt to hire Schotty. In my opinion McGarity lost faith in Richt's ability to pick a competent OC. I don't blame him. Richt basically lost everyone's confidence after last season's debacle...especially the Florida game.

Schotty was a bad hire and it ticked off Pruitt, because he felt like he wasn't doing his job. After the Florida game, Pruitt confronted Schotty about him not doing more to help the QBs. He's an NFL guy and treated QB's like NFL players. Pruitt felt that he was too hands off. Pruitt wanted Richt to go public about Shotty and Richt wouldn't do it. So Pruitt confronted McGarity about Shotty. Of course McGarity wasn't too keen on Pruitt telling him he was doing his job properly.

McGarity actually wanted Richt out last year. McGarity wanted to hire Mullen as the new coach initially, but for some reason it didn't work out. Kirby was his second choice.

This is why McGarity had his feathers ruffled about Pruitt. He needs to get over it. If Kirby would keep Pruitt that needs to happen in my opinion.

There you go...I think it's extremely reliable.

Thanks for the explanation. That sounds so logical, it is almost scary.

Really had a hard time trying to figure out Shotty. This is the best I have heard.

Good post. Thank you again.

 

[WillieG]

In light of the Pruitt account tweet about mediocrity and the news coming out he was fired during the season, this makes as much sense as anything else to me. Where there is smoke there is fire and there was a lot of smoke that week. What bothers me the most is that McGarrity thought Schotty and Mullen were good picks. I guess the silver lining is that McGarrity has raised the level of expectations beyond just 9-10 wins a season so if it doesn't pan out he will be gone.

 

[gawga_dawg]

I have a hard time believing McGarity forced Mark Richt to hire Brian Schottenheimer. It just doesn't make much sense to me, but whatever.

 

[dieharddawg62]

I have a hard time believing McGarity forced Mark Richt to hire Brian Schottenheimer. It just doesn't make much sense to me, but whatever.

I hear you. I'm just relaying what I heard.

 

[d-dawg]

It makes sense since Shotty had the Florida connection as well as Mullen.

 

[Dawgman94]

Well then is Greg giving up power for smart

 

[HeulenHund2]

I have a hard time believing McGarity forced Mark Richt to hire Brian Schottenheimer. It just doesn't make much sense to me, but whatever.

Yeah, that's the only part of the OP that doesn't match what I already thought.
Richt sure did rave about the Schotty hire, He went out of His way to say He was the first choice.

McGarity definitely needs to get over Himself where Pruitt is concerned. If Pruitt stays and keeps the D-Staff We have We'll only need the right OC to complete as good a staff as any.

 

[LumpLump]

Ok, here is what I heard directly from someone that is friends with one of the coaches. I'm not going to say which coach. McGarity forced Richt to hire Schotty. In my opinion McGarity lost faith in Richt's ability to pick a competent OC. I don't blame him. Richt basically lost everyone's confidence after last season's debacle...especially the Florida game.

Schotty was a bad hire and it ticked off Pruitt, because he felt like he wasn't doing his job. After the Florida game, Pruitt confronted Schotty about him not doing more to help the QBs. He's an NFL guy and treated QB's like NFL players. Pruitt felt that he was too hands off. Pruitt wanted Richt to go public about Shotty and Richt wouldn't do it. So Pruitt confronted McGarity about Shotty. Of course McGarity wasn't too keen on Pruitt telling him he was doing his job properly.

McGarity actually wanted Richt out last year. McGarity wanted to hire Mullen as the new coach initially, but for some reason it didn't work out. Kirby was his second choice.

This is why McGarity had his feathers ruffled about Pruitt. He needs to get over it. If Kirby would keep Pruitt that needs to happen in my opinion.

There you go...I think it's extremely reliable.

You need to speak with a BOR member or AA board member to get the scoop on Pruitt and what he did and ADGM was not directly involved. CJP did this to himself. I'm not sure about Shotty hiring situation but highly doubt it. Mullen..........I can see that.

 

[HeulenHund2]

You need to speak with a BOR member or AA board member to get the scoop on Pruitt and what he did and ADGM was not directly involved. CJP did this to himself. I'm not sure about Shotty hiring situation but highly doubt it. Mullen..........I can see that.

You know, I don't care whose fault the disturbance was.
If Pruitt has Kirby's ok, keep him.
If He made mistakes, they were likely out of frustration and a passion to win, I'll take those qualities over protocol and decorum.

 

[RedNBlackNtheDay]

Life is seldom that convoluted.

I remember Schotty being hired and it trumpeted as a major get by CMR. Moreover, I didn't see anything during the season indicating that CMR had the inclination to step in and over-write play calling, personnel, etc. with the exception of the Bauta debacle. Again, not favorable to CMR.

I imagine Pruitt is a horse's ass - entirely the right man for the job but not for a CMR program. As evidence, be reminded of how ill fitting Van Gorder and Grantham were; how difficult the Martinez separation was.

At the end off the day, I think CMR overvalued his security vis-a-vis the character building motif. Given the almost nonsensical, bi-polar response of the UGA fan base to his firing, I can understand how that might occur.

Were I to offer a guess, I'd put my money on a young coach Richt stepping into a wonderfully talented program in 2001, winning with ease, not properly diagnosing how or why it was happening, not learning the coaching business, and arriving at a point 14 years later with no more magic in his pocket... and, no clue where to get more.

People like that think black helmets have 'juice' in them.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Life is seldom that convoluted.

I remember Schotty being hired and it trumpeted as a major get by CMR. Moreover, I didn't see anything during the season indicating that CMR had the inclination to step in and over-write play calling, personnel, etc. with the exception of the Bauta debacle. Again, not favorable to CMR.

I imagine Pruitt is a horse's ass - entirely the right man for the job but not for a CMR program. As evidence, be reminded of how ill fitting Van Gorder and Grantham were; how difficult the Martinez separation was.

At the end off the day, I think CMR overvalued his security vis-a-vis the character building motif. Given the almost nonsensical, bi-polar response of the UGA fan base to his firing, I can understand how that might occur.

Were I to offer a guess, I'd put my money on a young coach Richt stepping into a wonderfully talented program in 2001, winning with ease, not properly diagnosing how or why it was happening, not learning the coaching business, and arriving at a point 14 years later with no more magic in his pocket... and, no clue where to get more.

People like that think black helmets have 'juice' in them.

Richt didn't win almost 10 games per year over a 15 year period at this level being the naïve hay seed You caricaturize Him to be.
He seemed more comfortable as the underdog than with the weight of expectations. We saw it in 2008 when He had the #1 ranking in preseason. We saw the survivor after starting 0-2 in 2011 and again after the UF disaster this season.
That doesn't make Him clueless though, He's far from it, he's just flawed.

 

[Lewis & Herschel]

Thank you Pruitt for ruffling those dipshitzz feathers. We are forever grateful. Screw the country club..

 

[Csc71]

It didn't take a genius to tell shotty was terrible the first three games. Play calling was almost little league level, and he sure didn't developed the qb's throughout the season.

 

[Csc71]

Ok, here is what I heard directly from someone that is friends with one of the coaches. I'm not going to say which coach. McGarity forced Richt to hire Schotty. In my opinion McGarity lost faith in Richt's ability to pick a competent OC. I don't blame him. Richt basically lost everyone's confidence after last season's debacle...especially the Florida game.

Schotty was a bad hire and it ticked off Pruitt, because he felt like he wasn't doing his job. After the Florida game, Pruitt confronted Schotty about him not doing more to help the QBs. He's an NFL guy and treated QB's like NFL players. Pruitt felt that he was too hands off. Pruitt wanted Richt to go public about Shotty and Richt wouldn't do it. So Pruitt confronted McGarity about Shotty. Of course McGarity wasn't too keen on Pruitt telling him he was doing his job properly.

McGarity actually wanted Richt out last year. McGarity wanted to hire Mullen as the new coach initially, but for some reason it didn't work out. Kirby was his second choice.

This is why McGarity had his feathers ruffled about Pruitt. He needs to get over it. If Kirby would keep Pruitt that needs to happen in my opinion.

There you go...I think it's extremely reliable.

Sounds about right. I have seen a lack of desire there for a while

 

[dieharddawg62]

Unlike Coker, Lambert wasn't any better from the first to the last game.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Sounds about right. I have seen a lack of desire there for a while

Actually there are some short memories. There was a wave of excitement when Schotty was hired and Brown returned.
I didn't like the hire, but most did.

 

[Csc71]

Actually there are some short memories. There was a wave of excitement when Schotty was hired and Brown returned.
I didn't like the hire, but most did.

I didn't like it either. He was not good in the pros. His Dad bounced around a lot too. I hoped it would be alright but gut feeling was bad.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Unlike Coker, Lambert wasn't any better from the first to the last game.

True, but there was a ridiculous rolling coaster ride during the season.
I've never seen or heard of a QB starting awful, setting records for completions, then reverting to awful, then to barely average. The kid seems border line schizoid.

On the other hand, there is clearly talent in there somewhere.

 

[HeulenHund2]

I didn't like it either. He was not good in the pros. His Dad bounced around a lot too. I hoped it would be alright but gut feeling was bad.

Yep, but his Dad was a defensive genius, Schotty was SUPPOSED to be good at offense.
I listed his record year by year with QBs but most dismissed it because He never had a great QB, other than Brees for a couple of seasons.
Over 14 seasons His QBs had about as many ints as TDs.

 

[RedNBlackNtheDay]

Yep, but his Dad was a defensive genius, Schotty was SUPPOSED to be good at offense.
I listed his record year by year with QBs but most dismissed it because He never had a great QB, other than Brees for a couple of seasons.
Over 14 seasons His QBs had as many ints as TDs.

Hey, a completion is a completion in this world Obama has built for us.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Hey, a completion is a completion in this world Obama has built for us.

Come on man, We're doing so well. at least save the politics for political threads...please.

 

[Dawgman94]

Yep, but his Dad was a defensive genius, Schotty was SUPPOSED to be good at offense.
I listed his record year by year with QBs but most dismissed it because He never had a great QB, other than Brees for a couple of seasons.
Over 14 seasons His QBs had about as many ints as TDs.

Some times a genius skips a generation his dad was not a defensive genius. Ask john elway prevent sucks. Rush 3 you suck.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Some times a genius skips a generation his dad was not a defensive genius. Ask john elway prevent sucks. Rush 3 you suck.

Marty's teams played excellent defense for many years.
Every team has a bad day but he proved himself over time. He also won more games in the NFL than any other coach who never won a championship, but he came very close.

 

[woofn]

am I reading this right, adgm didn't have confidence cmr could hire the right oc? And adgm made the choice for him with schotty? I don't see it, but if true, its just another reason adgm should be outta here.

 

[StoneColdKillerDawg]

Marty's teams played excellent defense for many years.
Every team has a bad day but he proved himself over time. He also won more games in the NFL than any other coach who never won a championship, but he came very close.

When it's all said and done, isn't it about winning championships? 2nd place will always and forever be the first loser. If championships weren't important, why do we have them? Why do we keep score? Why are coaches and athletes fired for underperforming in the big moment? The bottom line is that when it comes to sports, you're career isn't a true success unless you've won it all.

 

[HeulenHund2]

When it's all said and done, isn't it about winning championships? 2nd place will always and forever be the first loser. If championships weren't important, why do we have them? Why do we keep score? Why are coaches and athletes fired for underperforming in the big moment? The bottom line is that when it comes to sports, you're career isn't a true success unless you've won it all.

Of course, We all know championships are what everybody plays for.
That doesn't make Schottenheimer a loser though, far from it. Many years all but a couple of coaches looked up to Him in the standings, that in a league of the very best in the world at coaching the game.

 

[HeulenHund2]

When it's all said and done, isn't it about winning championships? 2nd place will always and forever be the first loser. If championships weren't important, why do we have them? Why do we keep score? Why are coaches and athletes fired for underperforming in the big moment? The bottom line is that when it comes to sports, you're career isn't a true success unless you've won it all.

Of course, We all know championships are what everybody plays for.
That doesn't make Schottenheimer a loser though, far from it. Many years all but a couple of coaches looked up to Him in the standings, that in a league of the very best in the world at coaching the game.

 

[OlecountryDawg]

Well I know for fact we couldn't hire Mullen if we wanted to BECAUSE Slive had a policy for SEC school can't hire a current SEC coach from another sec school .

I don't know how the new comm feels about another sec school stealing another current head coach from sec school . But this rule or policy has come down since Saban left LSU for Alabama .


The LSU people have been PO ever since so Slive said no more of this . I know for as fact as it is night right now at the time of this post this is the case : my feeling is the AD wanted to hire Mullen but got told NO by the comm but I don't know for sure .

So that's that on Mullen .

 

[mansfielddawg]

Life is seldom that convoluted.

I remember Schotty being hired and it trumpeted as a major get by CMR. Moreover, I didn't see anything during the season indicating that CMR had the inclination to step in and over-write play calling, personnel, etc. with the exception of the Bauta debacle. Again, not favorable to CMR.

I imagine Pruitt is a horse's ass - entirely the right man for the job but not for a CMR program. As evidence, be reminded of how ill fitting Van Gorder and Grantham were; how difficult the Martinez separation was.

At the end off the day, I think CMR overvalued his security vis-a-vis the character building motif. Given the almost nonsensical, bi-polar response of the UGA fan base to his firing, I can understand how that might occur.

Were I to offer a guess, I'd put my money on a young coach Richt stepping into a wonderfully talented program in 2001, winning with ease, not properly diagnosing how or why it was happening, not learning the coaching business, and arriving at a point 14 years later with no more magic in his pocket... and, no clue where to get more.

People like that think black helmets have 'juice' in them.

Life is seldom that convoluted.

I remember Schotty being hired and it trumpeted as a major get by CMR. Moreover, I didn't see anything during the season indicating that CMR had the inclination to step in and over-write play calling, personnel, etc. with the exception of the Bauta debacle. Again, not favorable to CMR.

I imagine Pruitt is a horse's ass - entirely the right man for the job but not for a CMR program. As evidence, be reminded of how ill fitting Van Gorder and Grantham were; how difficult the Martinez separation was.

At the end off the day, I think CMR overvalued his security vis-a-vis the character building motif. Given the almost nonsensical, bi-polar response of the UGA fan base to his firing, I can understand how that might occur.

Were I to offer a guess, I'd put my money on a young coach Richt stepping into a wonderfully talented program in 2001, winning with ease, not properly diagnosing how or why it was happening, not learning the coaching business, and arriving at a point 14 years later with no more magic in his pocket... and, no clue where to get more.

People like that think black helmets have 'juice' in them.

Your last paragraph is exactly how I see it. It wasn't hard to take UGA football to the next level. It's just the next level after that he had trouble with. In the end he looked desperate. he and a lot of fans were banking on a 5 star QB to save the day.

 

[Dawgman94]

You know anything does not surprise me when it comes to Georgia. I'm just glad we are geting Kirby and spending money.

 

[StoneColdKillerDawg]

You know anything does not surprise me when it comes to Georgia. I'm just glad we are geting Kirby and spending money.

I hope that they continue to spend to build the type of program UGA should have - not just in football, but in all sports. With any luck, the changes in Athens will push out the complacent wine & cheese crowd. The Dawgs need a raucous crowd that turns Sanford into an absolute nightmare for opposing teams. Although not my first choice, I hope Kirby is the guy to pull it all together and put UGA consistently into the playoff picture.

 

[dieharddawg62]

We need a Erk Russell-Rush Propst mean Some-bitch that's going to ruffle some mediocre feathers. Alpha types always stir up the pot. That's what they do.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Your last paragraph is exactly how I see it. It wasn't hard to take UGA football to the next level. It's just the next level after that he had trouble with. In the end he looked desperate. he and a lot of fans were banking on a 5 star QB to save the day.

That is VERY over-simplistic, in too many ways to mention.

 

[HeulenHund2]

We need a Erk Russell-Rush Propst mean Some-bitch that's going to ruffle some mediocre feathers. Alpha types always stir up the pot. That's what they do.

Pruitt will do just fine. I don't really recall Erk being a pot stirrer by the way. He confined Himself to his duties and let Dooley handle the politics.

 

[dieharddawg62]

Pruitt will do just fine. I don't really recall Irk being a pot stirrer by the way. He confined Himself to his duties and let Dooley handle the politics.

You are correct. He was not a media hound.

 

[mansfielddawg]

That is VERY over-simplistic, in too many ways to mention.

It's called thinking at a high level because we, you and I, have no clue in terms of the details to what really happened. Generalized thinking to stimulate more thought and discussion. Jeez, not everything is analytical geometry.