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Marriage Equality is here!!!!!! The SCOTUS has ensured that Obama will go down.......

As was their perogative. That's what gets lost in the Civil War discussion. Nowhere does it say that a State can't leave the Union. Hell, Texas votes on it every two years. Those states declared their independence and left. Lincoln invaded a soveriegn country. It remains the only time in history that we invaded someone and kept the conquered territory.

Mass was on the way out a few years earlier but came to an understanding. Everyone missed the biggest point on why we have independent states, its how we have our religious freedom, each state basicly had their own seperate religions...
 
Mass was on the way out a few years earlier but came to an understanding. Everyone missed the biggest point on why we have independent states, its how we have our religious freedom, each state basicly had their own seperate religions...
This country was intended to be a fairly loose confederation, tied together with a weak central government, which provided military protection, and governed interstate commerce. Even after 1865, that remained in place for the most part. It wasn't until the Progressive Movement, and their iconic scumbag, Woodrow Wilson, that the original idea started to erode. The 16th and the 17th Amendments are two of the worst ideas ever to come down the pike.
 
As was their perogative. That's what gets lost in the Civil War discussion. Nowhere does it say that a State can't leave the Union. Hell, Texas votes on it every two years. Those states declared their independence and left. Lincoln invaded a soveriegn country. It remains the only time in history that we invaded someone and kept the conquered territory.

WRONG. Apparently you are unfamiliar with the Mexican-American War of 1848. Under the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, the United States took from Mexico what became the states of California, Nevada, Utah, most of Arizona, half of New Mexico, and about one-fourth of Colorado. It was the third-largest land acquisition by the United States after the Louisiana Purchase and the acquisition of Alaska---and it was obtained through military invasion.

You are also apparently unfamiliar with the Spanish-American War of 1898, in which the United States obtained Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippine Islands from Spain---also obtained through military invasion.
 
This country was intended to be a fairly loose confederation, tied together with a weak central government, which provided military protection, and governed interstate commerce. Even after 1865, that remained in place for the most part. It wasn't until the Progressive Movement, and their iconic scumbag, Woodrow Wilson, that the original idea started to erode. The 16th and the 17th Amendments are two of the worst ideas ever to come down the pike.

That's so wrong it's laughable. You're talking about the Articles of Confederations that were later replaced by the U.S. Constitution.

The Continental Congress adopted the Articles of Confederation, the first constitution of the United States, on November 15, 1777, but the states did not ratify them until March 1, 1781. The Articles created a loose confederation of sovereign states and a weak central government, leaving most of the power with the state governments. Once peace removed the rationale of wartime necessity the weaknesses of the 1777 Articles of Confederation became increasingly apparent. Divisions among the states and even local rebellions threatened to destroy the fruits of the Revolution. Nationalists, led by James Madison, George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, and James Wilson, almost immediately began working toward strengthening the federal government. They turned a series of regional commercial conferences into a national constitutional convention at Philadelphia in 1787. - Library of Congress
 
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