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Only about 25% Pub Reps and maybe 5 Pub Senators want to cut the budget / deficit

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25% of Pub Reps really want to cut the budget / deficit
25% of Pubs Reps want to cut budget when the Dems are in charge, otherwise they are with the 50% of Pubs below
50% of Pubs want to spend just like the Dems, perhaps slightly less, just have different priorities (would put Trump in this category as well or very similar)

95% of the Dems are not interested in cutting anything, they have little if any regard to the deficit spending. (See Biden)
5% of the Dems want to spend slightly less, but they will go along with the 95% on most any vote. (See Clinton)

I don't envy Speaker of House Johnson. i don't see how you get any type budget thru this or the next congress. Trump needs a budget hawk to ram rod this thing thru the congress...........
 
25% of Pub Reps really want to cut the budget / deficit
25% of Pubs Reps want to cut budget when the Dems are in charge, otherwise they are with the 50% of Pubs below
50% of Pubs want to spend just like the Dems, perhaps slightly less, just have different priorities (would put Trump in this category as well or very similar)

95% of the Dems are not interested in cutting anything, they have little if any regard to the deficit spending. (See Biden)
5% of the Dems want to spend slightly less, but they will go along with the 95% on most any vote. (See Clinton)

I don't envy Speaker of House Johnson. i don't see how you get any type budget thru this or the next congress. Trump needs a budget hawk to ram rod this thing thru the congress...........
If you truly want to reduce spending and cut into deficits long-term, the correct tactical thing to do is to toe the line with Trump, accepting the realities of political leverage and the fact that there is no other source of capital other than debt to fund an even trimmed down budget in the coming years.

Instead, these 30 or so jackasses in the freedom caucus want their soundbites and speeches, because it sounds good to say that you are against raising the debt limit. That is a great principled stance to take but totally ignores the reality of where we are at this specific point in time, and it will absolutely be used as leverage for democrats to get shit they want.

Rally around the overall platform that includes DOGE and economic expansion = reductions in deficits / debt long term......not doing that weakens the position these guys so eloquently preach about. And they know it.

Democrats are better politicians than republicans. They effectively rallied around everything a senile old man said....even when everyone could see he was senile. Republicans will never be able to circle the wagons the way dems can.
 
25% of Pub Reps really want to cut the budget / deficit
25% of Pubs Reps want to cut budget when the Dems are in charge, otherwise they are with the 50% of Pubs below
50% of Pubs want to spend just like the Dems, perhaps slightly less, just have different priorities (would put Trump in this category as well or very similar)

95% of the Dems are not interested in cutting anything, they have little if any regard to the deficit spending. (See Biden)
5% of the Dems want to spend slightly less, but they will go along with the 95% on most any vote. (See Clinton)

I don't envy Speaker of House Johnson. i don't see how you get any type budget thru this or the next congress. Trump needs a budget hawk to ram rod this thing thru the congress...........
We’ll see what happens but letting go an unelected billionaire decide what legislation gets through will prove unwise, I predict.

Also, is there enough oxygen for both Trump and Musk?

I would prefer Elon focus on building amazing companies.

Dems want to increase spending, most Republicans do too. The only person I have seen be serious about paying down the federal debt is Steve Ballmer.
 
25% of Pub Reps really want to cut the budget / deficit
25% of Pubs Reps want to cut budget when the Dems are in charge, otherwise they are with the 50% of Pubs below
50% of Pubs want to spend just like the Dems, perhaps slightly less, just have different priorities (would put Trump in this category as well or very similar)

95% of the Dems are not interested in cutting anything, they have little if any regard to the deficit spending. (See Biden)
5% of the Dems want to spend slightly less, but they will go along with the 95% on most any vote. (See Clinton)

I don't envy Speaker of House Johnson. i don't see how you get any type budget thru this or the next congress. Trump needs a budget hawk to ram rod this thing thru the congress...........
Also the fact that a single man is now threatening to put you in a primary if you don’t go along with his wishes is exactly what our founders tried to prohibit.
 
We’ll see what happens but letting go an unelected billionaire decide what legislation gets through will prove unwise, I predict.

Also, is there enough oxygen for both Trump and Musk?

I would prefer Elon focus on building amazing companies.

Dems want to increase spending, most Republicans do too. The only person I have seen be serious about paying down the federal debt is Steve Ballmer.
Yeah, never allow a wise businessman who understands budgets and long term planning get in the way of politicians giving it away for reelection.

Why the belief that politicians are best suited for budget decisions?

And vote for salary increases for themselves…..

We are broken.
 
Yeah, never allow a wise businessman who understands budgets and long term planning get in the way of politicians giving it away for reelection.

Why the belief that politicians are best suited for budget decisions?

And vote for salary increases for themselves…..

We are broken.
The money thing is nuts. They should pass a law (they won’t) where they each get paid what the median US income is. About $52k.

That would kill illegal immigration since it drives wages down.
 
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The money thing is nuts. They should pass a law (they won’t) where they each get paid what the median US income is. About $52k.

That would kill illegal immigration since it drives wages down.
The dirty little secret is that it also keeps inflation down.
 
Also the fact that a single man is now threatening to put you in a primary if you don’t go along with his wishes is exactly what our founders tried to prohibit.
I would refer back to @lowcountrydawg paragraph above and copied below. So, no I have no real issues with Chippy Roy (in theory I believe with his overall thoughts) but if he ignores reality then President Trump's best strategy might be to cut him off at the knees. (Similar to how Pelosi kept her crazy folks in line) And this comes from someone who isn't a big Trump supporter, myself.

Instead, these 30 or so jackasses in the freedom caucus want their soundbites and speeches, because it sounds good to say that you are against raising the debt limit. That is a great principled stance to take but totally ignores the reality of where we are at this specific point in time, and it will absolutely be used as leverage for democrats to get shit they want.
 
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The dirty little secret is that it also keeps inflation down.
I disagree. The USA has been flooded with illegals for 40 years and inflation has not changed much to prior years.

Also, the highest amount of illegals has come in 2020-2024… anything gotten cheaper over that time? Hardly.

The idea that costs will go up if illegals leave is refuted by the fact that nothing got cheaper when they came in. Farmers and homebuilders (and others) have been pocketing crazy profits by refusing to hire our fellow citizens. You think they passed those savings on to the customer or put that money in their own pockets? What would you do?

If their margins decrease, they’ll just make less.
 
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Also the fact that a single man is now threatening to put you in a primary if you don’t go along with his wishes is exactly what our founders tried to prohibit.
It's not just a single man, it's the single man allowing free speech on X, where before all conservative voices were censored. Now the pols hear us.
 
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It's not just a single man, it's the single man allowing free speech on X, where before all conservative voices were censored. Now the pols hear us.
They really hate that there a people now in position to shine a harsh light on what the politicians would prefer to keep in the shadows. Musk and Ramaswamy already had put out bullet points before the ink was dry.

Used to be you could put out a last minute massive omnibus spending bill with piles of pork fat and get it passed before anyone could read it - much less understand it.

Lots of screaming about Musk today. That seems to be the standard talking point. Also claiming that Musk, Republicans and others killed funding for children's cancer research and other sentimental favorites. Truth is that the House has already passed several of these as stand alone bills and are now on Chuck Schumer's desk. The horrifying point for Washington politicians is that average people are aware of it.

 
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I disagree. The USA has been flooded with illegals for 40 years and inflation has not changed much to prior years.

Also, the highest amount of illegals has come in 2020-2024… anything gotten cheaper over that time? Hardly.

The idea that costs will go up if illegals leave is refuted by the fact that nothing got cheaper when they came in. Farmers and homebuilders (and others) have been pocketing crazy profits by refusing to hire our fellow citizens. You think they passed those savings on to the customer or put that money in their own pockets? What would you do?

If their margins decrease, they’ll just make less.
The "newcomers" as the Biden admin calls them are not working in the economy,..and even if they were working illegal, they would not be paying taxes but working in an underground economy,.. and sending an untaxed large percentage of income to their family of origin.

Most of the "newcomers" in the last 4 years are not working in farming and housing,...

But rather they were subsidized by the Biden admin to hang out here for a good timefor at least 2024,...and the free ride got taken away by a stubborn American public
 
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They really hate that there a people now in position to shine a harsh light on what the politicians would prefer to keep in the shadows. Musk and Ramaswamy already had put out bullet points before the ink was dry.

Used to be you could put out a last minute massive omnibus spending bill with piles of pork fat and get it passed before anyone could read it - much less understand it.

Lots of screaming about Musk today. That seems to be the standard talking point. Also claiming that Musk, Republicans and others killed funding for children's cancer research and other sentimental favorites. Truth is that the House has already passed several of these as stand alone bills and are now on Chuck Schumer's desk. The horrifying point for Washington politicians is that average people are aware of it.

Musk is the President. He purchased Trump and now runs what’s left of the R party. It’s gross but inevitable, President Musk is running the show. This is what we signed up for when Trump was elected. Elon Musk runs our country.

Proud moment for the Maggats. Remember the Red Wave? With control of the House, the GOP hasn’t accomplished Jack ****ing Shit in 2 years - and they still can’t. The idiots can’t get on the same page with the morons.
 
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The "newcomers" as the Biden admin calls them are not working in the economy,..and even if they were working illegal, they would not be paying taxes but working in an underground economy,.. and sending an untaxed large percentage of income to their family of origin.

Most of the "newcomers" in the last 4 years are not working in farming and housing,...

But rather they were subsidized by the Biden admin to hang out here for a good timefor at least 2024,...and the free ride got taken away by a stubborn American public
the Republican Party has the majority and can’t even produce the most basic bill that the citizens of our country require - can’t even agree among themselves.
 
Musk is the President. He purchased Trump and now runs what’s left of the R party. It’s gross but inevitable, President Musk is running the show. This is what we signed up for when Trump was elected. Elon Musk runs our country.

Proud moment for the Maggats. Remember the Red Wave? With control of the House, the GOP hasn’t accomplished Jack ****ing Shit in 2 years - and they still can’t. The idiots can’t get on the same page with the morons.
Who's running the country right now?
 
Musk is the President. He purchased Trump and now runs what’s left of the R party. It’s gross but inevitable, President Musk is running the show. This is what we signed up for when Trump was elected. Elon Musk runs our country.

Proud moment for the Maggats. Remember the Red Wave? With control of the House, the GOP hasn’t accomplished Jack ****ing Shit in 2 years - and they still can’t. The idiots can’t get on the same page with the morons.
Well, it looks like you got the media/dim talking points memo. That's great, keep it up, but it doesn't work anymore.
 
Musk is the President. He purchased Trump and now runs what’s left of the R party. It’s gross but inevitable, President Musk is running the show. This is what we signed up for when Trump was elected. Elon Musk runs our country.

Proud moment for the Maggats. Remember the Red Wave? With control of the House, the GOP hasn’t accomplished Jack ****ing Shit in 2 years - and they still can’t. The idiots can’t get on the same page with the morons.
Took a 1,500 page bill full of bullshit and cut 90 percent of the pork it including pay raises for congress. 100 pages. This is a bad thing?
 
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Musk is the President. He purchased Trump and now runs what’s left of the R party. It’s gross but inevitable, President Musk is running the show. This is what we signed up for when Trump was elected. Elon Musk runs our country.

Proud moment for the Maggats. Remember the Red Wave? With control of the House, the GOP hasn’t accomplished Jack ****ing Shit in 2 years - and they still can’t. The idiots can’t get on the same page with the morons.
The World is burning right now due to no one in power and you post this. Unelected bureaucratic ideologues have run the country into the ground.

Ironic.
 
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