So, Basically the Confederate flag has been abolished commercially, my

[ZosoDawg]

Ok Zoso you've found one black unit formed under the confederates that was disbanded a year later by the Louisiana legislature. The reason they were disbanded, well maybe you didn't get that far in the Wikipedia article, was because the legislature created a law that only "free white males capable of bearing arms" serve. Do you realize that you've found an article that proves my point and totally discredits everything you just said. They created a unit of blacks to fight for them but a year later then disband said unit because they were black. What a freaking idiot!!!!!!!!

Now this one unit doesn't even begin to compared to the union that had over 160 black units and north of 160K black troops serve for the union. Again you Civil War revisionist come out looking like idiots.

And Rolo as for this Hadley's Raiders claim, please provide a reference. I'm not saying you're full of $#it but...........I find no reference at all of this unit. And if you're going to sit here and tell me that the first grand wizard of the KKK (Nathan Bedford Forrest) lead a unit of black soldiers during the Civil War then you best provide some facts. Otherwise you're full of $#it.

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I didn't say anything princess...just provided a link to show you were wrong. The link was not my words. And just because legislation was passed in Louisiana doesn't mean that law applied to the entire confederate army. African Americans also served with the Confederate First Regiment Texas Rangers and the First Georgia Rangers.

Please provide a link where I said Forrest lead a unit of black soldiers during the Civil War.

Didn't say anything about the rest of your drivel, just merely responded to your statement that blacks didn't get involved until the end of the war. Proved you wrong. Don't take it personal. People are wrong every day. Hell, the Supreme Court got it wrong 2x's last week alone.

 

[shonuff253]

I didn't say anything princess...just provided a link to show you were wrong. The link was not my words. And just because legislation was passed in Louisiana doesn't mean that law applied to the entire confederate army. African Americans also served with the Confederate First Regiment Texas Rangers and the First Georgia Rangers.

Please provide a link where I said Forrest lead a unit of black soldiers during the Civil War.

Didn't say anything about the rest of your drivel, just merely responded to your statement that blacks didn't get involved until the end of the war. Proved you wrong. Don't take it personal. People are wrong every day. Hell, the Supreme Court got it wrong 2x's last week alone.

Zoso if you'd read my post you'd seen I was referring to Rolo on his Forrest claim not you.

Next the claim of African American fighting for the rebs is being used in this thread as a device to some how show that slavery played only a minor part in the Civil War. And sorry if you want to fall in with that line of think then be an idiot with the rest of them. Now for the point I made of no black units serving in the Confederate army at the beginning of the war, sure I'll say I was wrong but again you bringing up the Louisiana guard black unit only proves my point that the confederacy was racist and did not use blacks in the war in any meaningful fashion until wthe very very end.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

Ok Zoso you've found one black unit formed under the confederates that was disbanded a year later by the Louisiana legislature. The reason they were disbanded, well maybe you didn't get that far in the Wikipedia article, was because the legislature created a law that only "free white males capable of bearing arms" serve. Do you realize that you've found an article that proves my point and totally discredits everything you just said. They created a unit of blacks to fight for them but a year later then disband said unit because they were black. What a freaking idiot!!!!!!!!

Now this one unit doesn't even begin to compared to the union that had over 160 black units and north of 160K black troops serve for the union. Again you Civil War revisionist come out looking like idiots.

And Rolo as for this Hadley's Raiders claim, please provide a reference. I'm not saying you're full of $#it but...........I find no reference at all of this unit. And if you're going to sit here and tell me that the first grand wizard of the KKK (Nathan Bedford Forrest) lead a unit of black soldiers during the Civil War then you best provide some facts. Otherwise you're full of $#it.

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You have to get the bio on the man....he had many black troops, and his participation in the refounded KKK is BS, no one knows if he ever joined but he supported early version that considered itself a political/police outfit protecting southern families ...including blacks from robbers and carpet baggers

 

[ZosoDawg]

Zoso if you'd read my post you'd seen I was referring to Rolo on his Forrest claim not you.

Next the claim of African American fighting for the rebs is being used in this thread as a device to some how show that slavery played only a minor part in the Civil War. And sorry if you want to fall in with that line of think then be an idiot with the rest of them. Now for the point I made of no black units serving in the Confederate army at the beginning of the war, sure I'll say I was wrong but again you bringing up the Louisiana guard black unit only proves my point that the confederacy was racist and did not use blacks in the war in any meaningful fashion until wthe very very end.

"Do you realize that you've found an article that proves my point and totally discredits everything you just said."

That is your statement in replying to my thread. Sure sounds as if you were referring to something I said.

I understand the complexity of topic view... I forgive you.

 

[shonuff253]

You have to get the bio on the man....he had many black troops, and his participation in the refounded KKK is BS, no one knows if he ever joined but he supported early version that considered itself a political/police outfit protecting southern families ...including blacks from robbers and carpet baggers

Can you provide the title to his bio and where I can find it. Again if this is the only place such a claim is made I'm still calling BS. This is man who made a living as a slave trade before the war.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

Can you provide the title to his bio and where I can find it. Again if this is the only place such a claim is made I'm still calling BS. This is man who made a living as a slave trade before the war.

Its in his bio, can't be more specific than that. You should read it....as I did decades ago....You really don't know much about the man

 

[whitepug6]

Am I reading this correctly, you are saying that no blacks fought in for the south in the Civil War? Are you serious?
Wow.. and you are a professor...smdh

I am challenging Rolo to produce evidence that African-Americans were officially enrolled as soldiers in the confederate army. If they were, then there should be unit rosters with names. There should be pay records. Perhaps you don't see the distinction. I am sure plenty of African-American slaves were forced to serve the confederate army in menial roles, such as digging, cooking, serving as a hospital orderly, and cleaning. There were United States Army accounts of black slaves being forced by confederates to load cannons at the point of a gun, but that is not the same thing as truly serving as a combat soldier. I seriously doubt any African-American slaves volunteered to fight for the confederacy, I am fairly certain the confederate government would not have allowed black troops to possess firearms, and I am sure the confederate government did not pay any African-American soldiers.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

I am challenging Rolo to produce evidence that African-Americans were officially enrolled as soldiers in the confederate army. If they were, then there should be unit rosters with names. There should be pay records. Perhaps you don't see the distinction. I am sure plenty of African-American slaves were forced to serve the confederate army in menial roles, such as digging, cooking, serving as a hospital orderly, and cleaning. There were United States Army accounts of black slaves being forced by confederates to load cannons at the point of a gun, but that is not the same thing as truly serving as a combat soldier. I seriously doubt any African-American slaves volunteered to fight for the confederacy, I am fairly certain the confederate government would not have allowed black troops to possess firearms, and I am sure the confederate government did not pay any African-American soldiers.

You're truly a moron.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

Who do you think has been the worst "tryant" in history? Mao, Stalin, Napoleon, Hitler?

All deserving, all leftist, and the democRAT party has used all to form their agendas