Sounds like Tim Walz may have a stolen valor problem.
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Yeah he served 20 plus years in the national guard. Vance was a marine correspondent ( reporter ) overseas. Trump, well 0 years service , except spending other people’s money.
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Kerry had three Purple Hearts. None of them took him off duty.
This came up when he ran for congress and there were several men who served with and under him who came forward and stuck up for him. They said he was a good superior and the men respected him. That he had been considering leaving before he ever knew he would be deployed for a political run.
Jeff Bertrang outranked Walz in the unit and retired as a brigadier general. Now the New Ulm schools superintendent, Bertrang has a fond recollection of Sgt. Walz.
"His willingness to learn and to inspire others, he had a go-get-em' attitude," Bertrang said. "It wasn't sit back and wait to see what happens."
They spent time stationed together in the far reaches of Norway, where Guard troops trained with NATO allies, doing drills in the snow in 30-below-zero temperatures.
Bertrang said Walz was good at putting his colleagues at ease and demonstrated an appreciation for varying viewpoints and differing backgrounds, all of which could transfer to politics.
"You have to understand how to get along, how to work together, how it's not always one way or the highway, come to mutual understanding," Bertrang said. "Having that type of capability and experience goes a long way in leading whatever organization it's going to be."
Bertrang said he hasn't spoken with Walz in a year.
Al Bonnifield served under Walz, as did his younger brother. Bonnifield vividly recalls the first time he saw his new sergeant upon returning from annual training.
"He was down at the motorpool barking orders at everyone," Bonnifield said.
Bonnifield said he and his squad mates weren't sure what to make of him.
"We all kind of looked at him kind of funny like, 'Who is this guy?'" Bonnifield said. "But after a while we all got to know him and respect him very much."
They worked together in the armory base supply shop. He knew Walz as a guy who would play practical jokes on fellow soldiers and who would chat up anyone, regardless of differences in rank.
Bonnifield said they also bonded during a deployment to Italy connected to post-Sept. 11 Operation Enduring Freedom. After seven months abroad, the unit returned to Minnesota.
But Walz had already begun thinking about an exit and bounced it off others, including Bonnifield.
"Would the soldier look down on him because he didn't go with us? Would the common soldier say, 'Hey, he didn't go with us, he's trying to skip out on a deployment?' And he wasn't," Bonnifield said. "He talked with us for quite a while on that subject. He weighed that decision to run for Congress very heavy. He loved the military, he loved the guard, he loved the soldiers he worked with."
Walz said it was merely time to leave and he saw a chance to make a difference in the public policy arena.
"Once you're in, it's hard to retire. Of my 40 years or 41 years, I had been in the military 24 of them. It was just what you did," he said. "So that transition period was just a challenge."
Bonnifield and his brother did deploy to Iraq, in different units. And they both dealt with severe mental health issues upon their return. Bonnifield said Walz the congressman worked to connect struggling Guard members with help and sought to cut red tape.
"If you listen to him, he's got a very loud, strong voice," Bonnifield said. "But there's a very caring person inside. And one very good leader, too."
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2018/10/03/tim-walz-national-guard-career-minnesota-governor-race#:~:text=Jeff Bertrang outranked,good leader, too."
Jeff Bertrang outranked Walz in the unit and retired as a brigadier general. Now the New Ulm schools superintendent, Bertrang has a fond recollection of Sgt. Walz.
"His willingness to learn and to inspire others, he had a go-get-em' attitude," Bertrang said. "It wasn't sit back and wait to see what happens."
They spent time stationed together in the far reaches of Norway, where Guard troops trained with NATO allies, doing drills in the snow in 30-below-zero temperatures.
Bertrang said Walz was good at putting his colleagues at ease and demonstrated an appreciation for varying viewpoints and differing backgrounds, all of which could transfer to politics.
"You have to understand how to get along, how to work together, how it's not always one way or the highway, come to mutual understanding," Bertrang said. "Having that type of capability and experience goes a long way in leading whatever organization it's going to be."
Bertrang said he hasn't spoken with Walz in a year.
'Barking orders'
Al Bonnifield served under Walz, as did his younger brother. Bonnifield vividly recalls the first time he saw his new sergeant upon returning from annual training.
"He was down at the motorpool barking orders at everyone," Bonnifield said.
Bonnifield said he and his squad mates weren't sure what to make of him.
"We all kind of looked at him kind of funny like, 'Who is this guy?'" Bonnifield said. "But after a while we all got to know him and respect him very much."
They worked together in the armory base supply shop. He knew Walz as a guy who would play practical jokes on fellow soldiers and who would chat up anyone, regardless of differences in rank.
Bonnifield said they also bonded during a deployment to Italy connected to post-Sept. 11 Operation Enduring Freedom. After seven months abroad, the unit returned to Minnesota.
But Walz had already begun thinking about an exit and bounced it off others, including Bonnifield.
"Would the soldier look down on him because he didn't go with us? Would the common soldier say, 'Hey, he didn't go with us, he's trying to skip out on a deployment?' And he wasn't," Bonnifield said. "He talked with us for quite a while on that subject. He weighed that decision to run for Congress very heavy. He loved the military, he loved the guard, he loved the soldiers he worked with."
Walz said it was merely time to leave and he saw a chance to make a difference in the public policy arena.
"Once you're in, it's hard to retire. Of my 40 years or 41 years, I had been in the military 24 of them. It was just what you did," he said. "So that transition period was just a challenge."
Bonnifield and his brother did deploy to Iraq, in different units. And they both dealt with severe mental health issues upon their return. Bonnifield said Walz the congressman worked to connect struggling Guard members with help and sought to cut red tape.
"If you listen to him, he's got a very loud, strong voice," Bonnifield said. "But there's a very caring person inside. And one very good leader, too."
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2018/10/03/tim-walz-national-guard-career-minnesota-governor-race#:~:text=Jeff Bertrang outranked,good leader, too."
Yep. Vietnam draft deferment by Trump suggest this is a losing battle for Trump.
Instead, focus on his actual record on summer love riots & immigration
That and calling McCain a loser for being captured in war among other things.
And let's not forget calling those who died for this country suckers.
Unless there's a sound byte of it, I don't believe it.
Just like Trump's "neo Nazis being very fine people" quote that was grossly taken out of context & did not actually reflect what the MSM wanted us to believe... actually the exact opposite
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Dems are not sending there best to defend Walz, do these Dems read anything before they talk or just make it up?
More info on Tampon Tim’s stolen valor …
And he filed election docs in Feb of 2005.
Man served 20+ years and retired to run for Congress.
What are we doing here?
The GOP only likes veterans if they vote for Trump...otherwise they consider us losers and suckers.
Donald Trump claimed that avoiding STDs in NY in the ‘80s was his personal Vietnam.
What are they doing here? Thrashing around, desperately trying to figure out what is going to stick to Walz and help blunt the current Dem momentum. It won’t work.
The rally today was packed and high energy and Trump is having a harder and harder time getting people to show up and listen to the same old routine.
And in the mean time, Vance is asked today the softball question of what makes him happy and he responds by attacking the reporter. The contrast between the two campaigns grows more and more stark every day.
He didn’t have to retire to run congress. You can run for office while being in the military.
which is why he filed the FEC docs before they were even notified of deployment
he retired, presumably, to focus solely on running for office.
Just FYI-Walz was aware and mentioned it in an interview in March 2005 saying his unit was going to be deployed. Maybe it the official "alert" announced later but that timeline is misinformation.
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