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Thank you for sharing yet another example
of the GOP failing to govern while engaging in pure political theatre.

The process for determining apportionment for Congress is determined by the Constitution and has been affirmed by the SCOTUS as recently as 2019.

The section of the U.S. Constitution that deals with the apportionment of seats in the House of Representatives based on population is found in Article I, Section 2, and further clarified by the Fourteenth Amendment.

**Article I, Section 2** initially stated:
"The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct."

This was modified by the **Fourteenth Amendment**, particularly in Section 2, which states:
"Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed."

These constitutional provisions require that every resident is counted for the purposes of apportioning seats in the House of Representatives, without distinction as to legal status.

So, as is so often the case, the vote yesterday was an utter waste of time and for the sole purpose of feeding the right wing grievance machine. If you want to exclude non-citizen residents from the apportionment calculation, start the process of repealing the 14th Amendment.
 
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Thank you for sharing yet another example
of the GOP failing to govern while engaging in pure political theatre.

The process for determining apportionment for Congress is determined by the Constitution and has been affirmed by the SCOTUS as recently as 2019.

The section of the U.S. Constitution that deals with the apportionment of seats in the House of Representatives based on population is found in Article I, Section 2, and further clarified by the Fourteenth Amendment.

**Article I, Section 2** initially stated:
"The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct."

This was modified by the **Fourteenth Amendment**, particularly in Section 2, which states:
"Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed."

These constitutional provisions require that every resident is counted for the purposes of apportioning seats in the House of Representatives, without distinction as to legal status.

So, as is so often the case, the vote yesterday was an utter waste of time and for the sole purpose of feeding the right wing grievance machine. If you want to exclude non-citizen residents from the apportionment calculation, start the process of repealing the 14th Amendment.
but you agree with what dems do
very sad
 
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but you agree with what dems do
very sad
I don’t agree with everything Dems do, but in this case their vote reflected an understanding that the Constitution requires that apportionment be determined based on total residents, not total citizens. It’s very clear and the SCOTUS has affirmed this fact multiple times over the years.
 
This was always the plan. As important as the Presidential election may be in November, maintaining control of at least one house by the conservatives is imperative. If we get a democratic congress and a re-elected Biden...
JC
 
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Thank you for sharing yet another example
of the GOP failing to govern while engaging in pure political theatre.

The process for determining apportionment for Congress is determined by the Constitution and has been affirmed by the SCOTUS as recently as 2019.

The section of the U.S. Constitution that deals with the apportionment of seats in the House of Representatives based on population is found in Article I, Section 2, and further clarified by the Fourteenth Amendment.

**Article I, Section 2** initially stated:
"The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct."

This was modified by the **Fourteenth Amendment**, particularly in Section 2, which states:
"Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed."

These constitutional provisions require that every resident is counted for the purposes of apportioning seats in the House of Representatives, without distinction as to legal status.

So, as is so often the case, the vote yesterday was an utter waste of time and for the sole purpose of feeding the right wing grievance machine. If you want to exclude non-citizen residents from the apportionment calculation, start the process of repealing the 14th Amendment.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
I don’t agree with everything Dems do, but in this case their vote reflected an understanding that the Constitution requires that apportionment be determined based on total residents, not total citizens. It’s very clear and the SCOTUS has affirmed this fact multiple times over the years.
So you're cool with non-citizens having a say over your life? Figures.

Doesn't matter. Biden lost it all yesterday. Pack your bags and go live in Gaza.

 
So you're cool with non-citizens having a say over your life? Figures.

Doesn't matter. Biden lost it all yesterday. Pack your bags and go live in Gaza.

So, you don't believe in the Constitution as the foundational basis for governing in the US? Figures. That puts you in a large group of people who consider themselves Originalists until its inconvenient for their agenda.

If I were a Trump supporter, I would be concerned about the fact that Nikki Haley just took almost 22% of the primary vote in Indiana. That's one hell of a protest vote.
 
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So, you don't believe in the Constitution as the foundational basis for governing in the US? Figures. That puts you in a large group of people who consider themselves Originalists until its inconvenient for their agenda.

If I were a Trump supporter, I would be concerned about the fact that Nikki Haley just took almost 22% of the primary vote in Indiana. That's one hell of a protest vote.
🤣🤣🤣🤣

Dude.
 
So, you don't believe in the Constitution as the foundational basis for governing in the US? Figures. That puts you in a large group of people who consider themselves Originalists until its inconvenient for their agenda.

If I were a Trump supporter, I would be concerned about the fact that Nikki Haley just took almost 22% of the primary vote in Indiana. That's one hell of a protest vote.
I think we have established that both candidates suck. What would be the Biden protest vote if he were stuck in a primary. Good thing he isn’t. He probably would lose.
 
Interpret as you wish. This exposes the dems true agenda. They saw the American people moving away from their wishes and are trying to tilt forcibly take control of our country and people. One of their favorite tactics is to use our freedoms an against us.

They hide behind the Constitution to get their way on their destructive plans and scream it’s outdated anytime they hear of someone dare try and protect themselves by way of the second amendment.
 
Interpret as you wish. This exposes the dems true agenda. They saw the American people moving away from their wishes and are trying to tilt forcibly take control of our country and people. One of their favorite tactics is to use our freedoms an against us.

They hide behind the Constitution to get their way on their destructive plans and scream it’s outdated anytime they hear of someone dare try and protect themselves by way of the second amendment.
Forcibly take control of the country, you mean exactly what Trump tried to do after losing the election?

Non-citizens can’t vote, and that isn’t changing anytime soon.
 
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You just might be the most gullible poster here.
To quote Trump himself, “Stand back and stand by” while I share some statistics. “It’s going to be wild”.

Arrests made: More than 1,424 defendants have been charged in nearly all 50 states and the District of Columbia. (This includes those charged in both District and Superior Court).

Criminal charges:

  • Approximately 510 defendants have been charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers or employees, including approximately 133 individuals who have been charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury to an officer.
    • Approximately 140 police officers were assaulted on Jan. 6 at the Capitol, including about 80 from the U.S. Capitol Police and about 60 from the Metropolitan Police Department.
  • Approximately 11 individuals have been arrested on a series of charges that relate to assaulting a member of the media, or destroying their equipment, on Jan. 6.
  • Approximately 1,334 defendants have been charged with entering or remaining in a restricted federal building or grounds. Of those, 127 defendants have been charged with entering a restricted area with a dangerous or deadly weapon.
  • Approximately 79 defendants have been charged with destruction of government property, and approximately 62 defendants have been charged with theft of government property.
  • More than 355 defendants have been charged with corruptly obstructing, influencing, or impeding an official proceeding, or attempting to do so.
  • Approximately 57 defendants have been charged with conspiracy, either: (a) conspiracy to obstruct a congressional proceeding, (b) conspiracy to obstruct law enforcement during a civil disorder, (c) conspiracy to injure an officer, or (d) some combination of the three.


Pleas:

  • Approximately 820 individuals have pleaded guilty to a variety of federal charges, many of whom faced or will face incarceration at sentencing.
    • Approximately 255 have pleaded guilty to felonies. Another 565 have pleaded guilty to misdemeanors.
    • A total of 97 of those who have pleaded guilty to felonies have pleaded to federal charges of assaulting law enforcement officers. Approximately 58 additional defendants have pleaded guilty to feloniously obstructing, impeding, or interfering with a law enforcement officer during a civil disorder. Of these 155 defendants, 145 have now been sentenced to prison terms of up to 151months.
    • Four of those who have pleaded guilty to felonies have pleaded guilty to the federal charge of seditious conspiracy.


Trials:

  • 162 individuals have been found guilty at contested trials, including 3 who were found guilty in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia. Another 37 individuals have been convicted following an agreed-upon set of facts. 82 of these 199 defendants were found guilty of assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers and/or obstructing officers during a civil disorder, which are felony offenses, including one who has been sentenced to more than 14 years in prison.


Sentencings:

  • Approximately 884 defendants have had their cases adjudicated and received sentences for their criminal activity on Jan. 6. Approximately 541 have been sentenced to periods of incarceration. Approximately 172 defendants have been sentenced to a period of home detention, including approximately 31 who also were sentenced to a period of incarceration.
 
I want some more charts, links, clips, and all the other cools stuff.


Maybe a thought, common sense???
Sure, I think common sense is helpful in this discussion. So let’s recap what happened.

After the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Trump took several notable steps to challenge the outcome in which Joe Biden was declared the winner:

1. **Public Claims**: Trump repeatedly claimed, without evidence, that there was widespread voter fraud and that the election was stolen from him.

2. **Legal Challenges**: Trump and his allies filed dozens of lawsuits in key states aiming to overturn election results, contesting the vote counts and alleging irregularities. Nearly all of these lawsuits were dismissed due to lack of evidence.

3. **Pressure on State Officials**: Trump and his team pressured election officials in several states, including Georgia, to "find" votes that could swing the election in his favor or to conduct recounts that might reverse Biden's lead.

4. **Delay Certification**: Trump and his supporters attempted to delay or block the certification of election results in several battleground states to prevent the official acknowledgment of Biden's victory. Some of those efforts have resulted in felony indictments in GA, MI, AZ and NV.

5. **Electoral College Challenge**: On January 6, 2021, Trump encouraged his supporters to rally in Washington, D.C., as Congress was set to certify the Electoral College results. The rally turned into a violent attack on the U.S. Capitol. Trump did not ask his followers to leave the Capitol for over three hours during the attack.

Feel free to correct any of the above if you find it factually wrong.
 
Sure, I think common sense is helpful in this discussion. So let’s recap what happened.

After the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Trump took several notable steps to challenge the outcome in which Joe Biden was declared the winner:

1. **Public Claims**: Trump repeatedly claimed, without evidence, that there was widespread voter fraud and that the election was stolen from him.

2. **Legal Challenges**: Trump and his allies filed dozens of lawsuits in key states aiming to overturn election results, contesting the vote counts and alleging irregularities. Nearly all of these lawsuits were dismissed due to lack of evidence.

3. **Pressure on State Officials**: Trump and his team pressured election officials in several states, including Georgia, to "find" votes that could swing the election in his favor or to conduct recounts that might reverse Biden's lead.

4. **Delay Certification**: Trump and his supporters attempted to delay or block the certification of election results in several battleground states to prevent the official acknowledgment of Biden's victory. Some of those efforts have resulted in felony indictments in GA, MI, AZ and NV.

5. **Electoral College Challenge**: On January 6, 2021, Trump encouraged his supporters to rally in Washington, D.C., as Congress was set to certify the Electoral College results. The rally turned into a violent attack on the U.S. Capitol. Trump did not ask his followers to leave the Capitol for over three hours during the attack.

Feel free to correct any of the above if you find it factually wrong.
You throw that out there. But by common sense I mean this..... Your Boy Smokin Joe has trashed our country, allowed shit to happen in our country that is third-worldish, allowed the World to laugh at us not to mention come at the candidate, who, in a fair election, would whip his ass.

Your Boy, your party, has been coming after Trump and the Republicans from day #1. Hi-Larry and all the turds. That is common sense.

Common sense tells me if you can't beat them, cheat them. That's fact.

You know, deep down, your party and your President have trashed this place. And your hate for Orange Man blinds your common sense. Your hate for one man, allows you to blame and trash, just to prove your point. It ain't about the dude, it's about the USA. You can't see that, and that's common sense
 
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To quote Trump himself, “Stand back and stand by” while I share some statistics. “It’s going to be wild”.

Arrests made: More than 1,424 defendants have been charged in nearly all 50 states and the District of Columbia. (This includes those charged in both District and Superior Court).

Criminal charges:

  • Approximately 510 defendants have been charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers or employees, including approximately 133 individuals who have been charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury to an officer.
    • Approximately 140 police officers were assaulted on Jan. 6 at the Capitol, including about 80 from the U.S. Capitol Police and about 60 from the Metropolitan Police Department.
  • Approximately 11 individuals have been arrested on a series of charges that relate to assaulting a member of the media, or destroying their equipment, on Jan. 6.
  • Approximately 1,334 defendants have been charged with entering or remaining in a restricted federal building or grounds. Of those, 127 defendants have been charged with entering a restricted area with a dangerous or deadly weapon.
  • Approximately 79 defendants have been charged with destruction of government property, and approximately 62 defendants have been charged with theft of government property.
  • More than 355 defendants have been charged with corruptly obstructing, influencing, or impeding an official proceeding, or attempting to do so.
  • Approximately 57 defendants have been charged with conspiracy, either: (a) conspiracy to obstruct a congressional proceeding, (b) conspiracy to obstruct law enforcement during a civil disorder, (c) conspiracy to injure an officer, or (d) some combination of the three.


Pleas:

  • Approximately 820 individuals have pleaded guilty to a variety of federal charges, many of whom faced or will face incarceration at sentencing.
    • Approximately 255 have pleaded guilty to felonies. Another 565 have pleaded guilty to misdemeanors.
    • A total of 97 of those who have pleaded guilty to felonies have pleaded to federal charges of assaulting law enforcement officers. Approximately 58 additional defendants have pleaded guilty to feloniously obstructing, impeding, or interfering with a law enforcement officer during a civil disorder. Of these 155 defendants, 145 have now been sentenced to prison terms of up to 151months.
    • Four of those who have pleaded guilty to felonies have pleaded guilty to the federal charge of seditious conspiracy.


Trials:

  • 162 individuals have been found guilty at contested trials, including 3 who were found guilty in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia. Another 37 individuals have been convicted following an agreed-upon set of facts. 82 of these 199 defendants were found guilty of assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers and/or obstructing officers during a civil disorder, which are felony offenses, including one who has been sentenced to more than 14 years in prison.


Sentencings:

  • Approximately 884 defendants have had their cases adjudicated and received sentences for their criminal activity on Jan. 6. Approximately 541 have been sentenced to periods of incarceration. Approximately 172 defendants have been sentenced to a period of home detention, including approximately 31 who also were sentenced to a period of incarceration.
Convictions in a banana republic don’t prove as much as you think. Damn sure doesn’t prove there was a legit threat of a coup, much less one led by trump.
 
Sure, I think common sense is helpful in this discussion. So let’s recap what happened.

After the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Trump took several notable steps to challenge the outcome in which Joe Biden was declared the winner:

1. **Public Claims**: Trump repeatedly claimed, without evidence, that there was widespread voter fraud and that the election was stolen from him.

2. **Legal Challenges**: Trump and his allies filed dozens of lawsuits in key states aiming to overturn election results, contesting the vote counts and alleging irregularities. Nearly all of these lawsuits were dismissed due to lack of evidence.

3. **Pressure on State Officials**: Trump and his team pressured election officials in several states, including Georgia, to "find" votes that could swing the election in his favor or to conduct recounts that might reverse Biden's lead.

4. **Delay Certification**: Trump and his supporters attempted to delay or block the certification of election results in several battleground states to prevent the official acknowledgment of Biden's victory. Some of those efforts have resulted in felony indictments in GA, MI, AZ and NV.

5. **Electoral College Challenge**: On January 6, 2021, Trump encouraged his supporters to rally in Washington, D.C., as Congress was set to certify the Electoral College results. The rally turned into a violent attack on the U.S. Capitol. Trump did not ask his followers to leave the Capitol for over three hours during the attack.

Feel free to correct any of the above if you find it factually wrong.
Here's another reason your guy is losing.

 
Sure, I think common sense is helpful in this discussion. So let’s recap what happened.

After the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Trump took several notable steps to challenge the outcome in which Joe Biden was declared the winner:

1. **Public Claims**: Trump repeatedly claimed, without evidence, that there was widespread voter fraud and that the election was stolen from him.

2. **Legal Challenges**: Trump and his allies filed dozens of lawsuits in key states aiming to overturn election results, contesting the vote counts and alleging irregularities. Nearly all of these lawsuits were dismissed due to lack of evidence.

3. **Pressure on State Officials**: Trump and his team pressured election officials in several states, including Georgia, to "find" votes that could swing the election in his favor or to conduct recounts that might reverse Biden's lead.

4. **Delay Certification**: Trump and his supporters attempted to delay or block the certification of election results in several battleground states to prevent the official acknowledgment of Biden's victory. Some of those efforts have resulted in felony indictments in GA, MI, AZ and NV.

5. **Electoral College Challenge**: On January 6, 2021, Trump encouraged his supporters to rally in Washington, D.C., as Congress was set to certify the Electoral College results. The rally turned into a violent attack on the U.S. Capitol. Trump did not ask his followers to leave the Capitol for over three hours during the attack.

Feel free to correct any of the above if you find it factually wrong.
Here’s yet another reason. Maybe I should have put this in the 0-4 thread?

 
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Sure, I think common sense is helpful in this discussion. So let’s recap what happened.

After the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Trump took several notable steps to challenge the outcome in which Joe Biden was declared the winner:

1. **Public Claims**: Trump repeatedly claimed, without evidence, that there was widespread voter fraud and that the election was stolen from him.

2. **Legal Challenges**: Trump and his allies filed dozens of lawsuits in key states aiming to overturn election results, contesting the vote counts and alleging irregularities. Nearly all of these lawsuits were dismissed due to lack of evidence.

3. **Pressure on State Officials**: Trump and his team pressured election officials in several states, including Georgia, to "find" votes that could swing the election in his favor or to conduct recounts that might reverse Biden's lead.

4. **Delay Certification**: Trump and his supporters attempted to delay or block the certification of election results in several battleground states to prevent the official acknowledgment of Biden's victory. Some of those efforts have resulted in felony indictments in GA, MI, AZ and NV.

5. **Electoral College Challenge**: On January 6, 2021, Trump encouraged his supporters to rally in Washington, D.C., as Congress was set to certify the Electoral College results. The rally turned into a violent attack on the U.S. Capitol. Trump did not ask his followers to leave the Capitol for over three hours during the attack.

Feel free to correct any of the above if you find it factually wrong.
That’s where common sense comes in most people know that the trials were kangaroo courts and all for show. Also a bunch of the people sentenced are about to be freed.
 
Forcibly take control of the country, you mean exactly what Trump tried to do after losing the election?

Non-citizens can’t vote, and that isn’t changing anytime soon.
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I don’t agree with everything Dems do, but in this case their vote reflected an understanding that the Constitution requires that apportionment be determined based on total residents, not total citizens. It’s very clear and the SCOTUS has affirmed this fact multiple times over the years.
you are trying everything you can to defend your vote and the hole you are digging gets deeper and deeper
You know dems are done soon
Your bathrooms, border bs, hiring. People because of skin color and pronouns , taxes, race baiting daily speaking for the black man, sanctuary cities, wanting Jews gone ,
Defunding the police,
Shits coming to an end man
 
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Sure, I think common sense is helpful in this discussion. So let’s recap what happened.

After the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Trump took several notable steps to challenge the outcome in which Joe Biden was declared the winner:

1. **Public Claims**: Trump repeatedly claimed, without evidence, that there was widespread voter fraud and that the election was stolen from him.

2. **Legal Challenges**: Trump and his allies filed dozens of lawsuits in key states aiming to overturn election results, contesting the vote counts and alleging irregularities. Nearly all of these lawsuits were dismissed due to lack of evidence.

3. **Pressure on State Officials**: Trump and his team pressured election officials in several states, including Georgia, to "find" votes that could swing the election in his favor or to conduct recounts that might reverse Biden's lead.

4. **Delay Certification**: Trump and his supporters attempted to delay or block the certification of election results in several battleground states to prevent the official acknowledgment of Biden's victory. Some of those efforts have resulted in felony indictments in GA, MI, AZ and NV.

5. **Electoral College Challenge**: On January 6, 2021, Trump encouraged his supporters to rally in Washington, D.C., as Congress was set to certify the Electoral College results. The rally turned into a violent attack on the U.S. Capitol. Trump did not ask his followers to leave the Capitol for over three hours during the attack.

Feel free to correct any of the above if you find it factually wrong.
Pick a side Dude. Put your name on the line for this disloyal, lying pandering POS and be proud of yourself.

 
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Sure, I think common sense is helpful in this discussion. So let’s recap what happened.

After the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Trump took several notable steps to challenge the outcome in which Joe Biden was declared the winner:

1. **Public Claims**: Trump repeatedly claimed, without evidence, that there was widespread voter fraud and that the election was stolen from him.

2. **Legal Challenges**: Trump and his allies filed dozens of lawsuits in key states aiming to overturn election results, contesting the vote counts and alleging irregularities. Nearly all of these lawsuits were dismissed due to lack of evidence.

3. **Pressure on State Officials**: Trump and his team pressured election officials in several states, including Georgia, to "find" votes that could swing the election in his favor or to conduct recounts that might reverse Biden's lead.

4. **Delay Certification**: Trump and his supporters attempted to delay or block the certification of election results in several battleground states to prevent the official acknowledgment of Biden's victory. Some of those efforts have resulted in felony indictments in GA, MI, AZ and NV.

5. **Electoral College Challenge**: On January 6, 2021, Trump encouraged his supporters to rally in Washington, D.C., as Congress was set to certify the Electoral College results. The rally turned into a violent attack on the U.S. Capitol. Trump did not ask his followers to leave the Capitol for over three hours during the attack.

Feel free to correct any of the above if you find it factually wrong.

Sure thing. Since you used ChatGPT to craft this, I’ll reply with a ChatGPT response of my own. I’m curious as to the prompt you gave it?

1. **Public Claims**: Supporters of President Trump argue that his concerns about voter fraud were justified given the unprecedented circumstances of the 2020 election, which saw a massive increase in mail-in voting due to the COVID-19 pandemic. They believe these changes created vulnerabilities in the electoral system that warranted scrutiny and investigation to ensure electoral integrity.

2. **Legal Challenges**: Trump's legal efforts were seen as a legitimate pursuit of justice and electoral transparency. Challenging the results in court is seen as a fundamental right and an essential process in a democratic system, especially when there are perceived inconsistencies or irregularities that could affect the election's outcome.

3. **Pressure on State Officials**: The calls to state officials were attempts to ensure that every legal vote was counted and any illegal votes were discarded. These actions are viewed as part of the due process in safeguarding the integrity of the election, rather than as undue pressure.

4. **Delay Certification**: Trump's efforts to delay certification are viewed as a necessary step to address unresolved legal challenges and alleged irregularities. Ensuring the accuracy and fairness of the election results is crucial before finalizing the electoral outcome, especially in closely contested states.

5. **Electoral College Challenge**: Many Trump supporters believe that the rally on January 6 was intended to be a peaceful protest to express concern over the election results. They argue that President Trump did not incite violence and that the actions of a few should not overshadow the intentions of the many who were there to legally protest. They also emphasize that Trump eventually called for peace and respect for law and order once the situation escalated.
 
Sure thing. Since you used ChatGPT to craft this, I’ll reply with a ChatGPT response of my own. I’m curious as to the prompt you gave it?

1. **Public Claims**: Supporters of President Trump argue that his concerns about voter fraud were justified given the unprecedented circumstances of the 2020 election, which saw a massive increase in mail-in voting due to the COVID-19 pandemic. They believe these changes created vulnerabilities in the electoral system that warranted scrutiny and investigation to ensure electoral integrity.

2. **Legal Challenges**: Trump's legal efforts were seen as a legitimate pursuit of justice and electoral transparency. Challenging the results in court is seen as a fundamental right and an essential process in a democratic system, especially when there are perceived inconsistencies or irregularities that could affect the election's outcome.

3. **Pressure on State Officials**: The calls to state officials were attempts to ensure that every legal vote was counted and any illegal votes were discarded. These actions are viewed as part of the due process in safeguarding the integrity of the election, rather than as undue pressure.

4. **Delay Certification**: Trump's efforts to delay certification are viewed as a necessary step to address unresolved legal challenges and alleged irregularities. Ensuring the accuracy and fairness of the election results is crucial before finalizing the electoral outcome, especially in closely contested states.

5. **Electoral College Challenge**: Many Trump supporters believe that the rally on January 6 was intended to be a peaceful protest to express concern over the election results. They argue that President Trump did not incite violence and that the actions of a few should not overshadow the intentions of the many who were there to legally protest. They also emphasize that Trump eventually called for peace and respect for law and order once the situation escalated.
Every one of his advisors other than that clown show of a legal team told him very clearly that he lost. It’s four years later, and we still don’t have even one single example of meaningful fraud.

Trump lost, he knew he lost, and he lied and tried to steal the presidency. It’s super simple, if you are open to facts and reasonable interpretation of the events that we all saw play out of Twitter and the national news. You can’t reach any other conclusion. But if owning the libs is more important that the preservation of 250 years of unique and precious political tradition, sure, Trump totally didn’t do a single thing wrong in his efforts to stay in office.
 
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Every one of his advisors other than that clown show of a legal team told him very clearly that he lost. It’s four years later, and we still don’t have even one single example of meaningful fraud.

Trump lost, he knew he lost, and he lied and tried to steal the presidency. It’s super simple, if you are open to facts and reasonable interpretation of the events that we all saw play out of Twitter and the national news. You can’t reach any other conclusion. But if owning the libs is more important that the preservation of 250 years of unique and precious political tradition, sure, Trump totally didn’t do a single thing wrong in his efforts to stay in office.
If it were a legit threat, as insane liberals think, we would have seen something very different on 1/6. We didn’t see that because it wasn’t.

The only legit threat to America is the commies, who have infiltrated every facet of our nation.
 
Every one of his advisors other than that clown show of a legal team told him very clearly that he lost. It’s four years later, and we still don’t have even one single example of meaningful fraud.

Trump lost, he knew he lost, and he lied and tried to steal the presidency. It’s super simple, if you are open to facts and reasonable interpretation of the events that we all saw play out of Twitter and the national news. You can’t reach any other conclusion. But if owning the libs is more important that the preservation of 250 years of unique and precious political tradition, sure, Trump totally didn’t do a single thing wrong in his efforts to stay in office.
Here's your guy. The last place you should be standing is on the hill of moral superiority.

 
If it were a legit threat, as insane liberals think, we would have seen something very different on 1/6. We didn’t see that because it wasn’t.

The only legit threat to America is the commies, who have infiltrated every facet of our nation.
Nancy Polozi escalated everything when she claimed Trump was trying to take over the capital. It was utter nonsense and people were locked up for it. That bitch needs to roast in hell!
 
Sure thing. Since you used ChatGPT to craft this, I’ll reply with a ChatGPT response of my own. I’m curious as to the prompt you gave it?

1. **Public Claims**: Supporters of President Trump argue that his concerns about voter fraud were justified given the unprecedented circumstances of the 2020 election, which saw a massive increase in mail-in voting due to the COVID-19 pandemic. They believe these changes created vulnerabilities in the electoral system that warranted scrutiny and investigation to ensure electoral integrity.

2. **Legal Challenges**: Trump's legal efforts were seen as a legitimate pursuit of justice and electoral transparency. Challenging the results in court is seen as a fundamental right and an essential process in a democratic system, especially when there are perceived inconsistencies or irregularities that could affect the election's outcome.

3. **Pressure on State Officials**: The calls to state officials were attempts to ensure that every legal vote was counted and any illegal votes were discarded. These actions are viewed as part of the due process in safeguarding the integrity of the election, rather than as undue pressure.

4. **Delay Certification**: Trump's efforts to delay certification are viewed as a necessary step to address unresolved legal challenges and alleged irregularities. Ensuring the accuracy and fairness of the election results is crucial before finalizing the electoral outcome, especially in closely contested states.

5. **Electoral College Challenge**: Many Trump supporters believe that the rally on January 6 was intended to be a peaceful protest to express concern over the election results. They argue that President Trump did not incite violence and that the actions of a few should not overshadow the intentions of the many who were there to legally protest. They also emphasize that Trump eventually called for peace and respect for law and order once the situation escalated.
Your ChatGPT is pretty accurate.

Unfortunately, it's not complete. Some important information is omitted. For instance, the phrase "--despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary--" should have been included in several places.

So your "public claims" topic should've read "Supporters of President Trump argue--despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary--that his concerns about voter fraud were justified..." Your Electoral College Challenge should've read "Many Trump supporters believe--despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary--that the rally on January 6 was intended to be a peaceful protest..."
 
Sure thing. Since you used ChatGPT to craft this, I’ll reply with a ChatGPT response of my own. I’m curious as to the prompt you gave it?

1. **Public Claims**: Supporters of President Trump argue that his concerns about voter fraud were justified given the unprecedented circumstances of the 2020 election, which saw a massive increase in mail-in voting due to the COVID-19 pandemic. They believe these changes created vulnerabilities in the electoral system that warranted scrutiny and investigation to ensure electoral integrity.

2. **Legal Challenges**: Trump's legal efforts were seen as a legitimate pursuit of justice and electoral transparency. Challenging the results in court is seen as a fundamental right and an essential process in a democratic system, especially when there are perceived inconsistencies or irregularities that could affect the election's outcome.

3. **Pressure on State Officials**: The calls to state officials were attempts to ensure that every legal vote was counted and any illegal votes were discarded. These actions are viewed as part of the due process in safeguarding the integrity of the election, rather than as undue pressure.

4. **Delay Certification**: Trump's efforts to delay certification are viewed as a necessary step to address unresolved legal challenges and alleged irregularities. Ensuring the accuracy and fairness of the election results is crucial before finalizing the electoral outcome, especially in closely contested states.

5. **Electoral College Challenge**: Many Trump supporters believe that the rally on January 6 was intended to be a peaceful protest to express concern over the election results. They argue that President Trump did not incite violence and that the actions of a few should not overshadow the intentions of the many who were there to legally protest. They also emphasize that Trump eventually called for peace and respect for law and order once the situation escalated.
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Sure, I think common sense is helpful in this discussion. So let’s recap what happened.

After the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Trump took several notable steps to challenge the outcome in which Joe Biden was declared the winner:

1. **Public Claims**: Trump repeatedly claimed, without evidence, that there was widespread voter fraud and that the election was stolen from him.

2. **Legal Challenges**: Trump and his allies filed dozens of lawsuits in key states aiming to overturn election results, contesting the vote counts and alleging irregularities. Nearly all of these lawsuits were dismissed due to lack of evidence.

3. **Pressure on State Officials**: Trump and his team pressured election officials in several states, including Georgia, to "find" votes that could swing the election in his favor or to conduct recounts that might reverse Biden's lead.

4. **Delay Certification**: Trump and his supporters attempted to delay or block the certification of election results in several battleground states to prevent the official acknowledgment of Biden's victory. Some of those efforts have resulted in felony indictments in GA, MI, AZ and NV.

5. **Electoral College Challenge**: On January 6, 2021, Trump encouraged his supporters to rally in Washington, D.C., as Congress was set to certify the Electoral College results. The rally turned into a violent attack on the U.S. Capitol. Trump did not ask his followers to leave the Capitol for over three hours during the attack.

Feel free to correct any of the above if you find it factually wrong.
Sure thing. Since you used ChatGPT to craft this, I’ll reply with a ChatGPT response of my own. I’m curious as to the prompt you gave it?

1. **Public Claims**: Supporters of President Trump argue that his concerns about voter fraud were justified given the unprecedented circumstances of the 2020 election, which saw a massive increase in mail-in voting due to the COVID-19 pandemic. They believe these changes created vulnerabilities in the electoral system that warranted scrutiny and investigation to ensure electoral integrity.

2. **Legal Challenges**: Trump's legal efforts were seen as a legitimate pursuit of justice and electoral transparency. Challenging the results in court is seen as a fundamental right and an essential process in a democratic system, especially when there are perceived inconsistencies or irregularities that could affect the election's outcome.

3. **Pressure on State Officials**: The calls to state officials were attempts to ensure that every legal vote was counted and any illegal votes were discarded. These actions are viewed as part of the due process in safeguarding the integrity of the election, rather than as undue pressure.

4. **Delay Certification**: Trump's efforts to delay certification are viewed as a necessary step to address unresolved legal challenges and alleged irregularities. Ensuring the accuracy and fairness of the election results is crucial before finalizing the electoral outcome, especially in closely contested states.

5. **Electoral College Challenge**: Many Trump supporters believe that the rally on January 6 was intended to be a peaceful protest to express concern over the election results. They argue that President Trump did not incite violence and that the actions of a few should not overshadow the intentions of the many who were there to legally protest. They also emphasize that Trump eventually called for peace and respect for law and order once the situation escalated.
Sure, I think common sense is helpful in this discussion. So let’s recap what happened.

After the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Trump took several notable steps to challenge the outcome in which Joe Biden was declared the winner:

1. **Public Claims**: Trump repeatedly claimed, without evidence, that there was widespread voter fraud and that the election was stolen from him.

2. **Legal Challenges**: Trump and his allies filed dozens of lawsuits in key states aiming to overturn election results, contesting the vote counts and alleging irregularities. Nearly all of these lawsuits were dismissed due to lack of evidence.

3. **Pressure on State Officials**: Trump and his team pressured election officials in several states, including Georgia, to "find" votes that could swing the election in his favor or to conduct recounts that might reverse Biden's lead.

4. **Delay Certification**: Trump and his supporters attempted to delay or block the certification of election results in several battleground states to prevent the official acknowledgment of Biden's victory. Some of those efforts have resulted in felony indictments in GA, MI, AZ and NV.

5. **Electoral College Challenge**: On January 6, 2021, Trump encouraged his supporters to rally in Washington, D.C., as Congress was set to certify the Electoral College results. The rally turned into a violent attack on the U.S. Capitol. Trump did not ask his followers to leave the Capitol for over three hours during the attack.

Feel free to correct any of the above if you find it factually wrong.
You, Dylan Raiola must be very close friends. You cannot deny it. :cool:
 
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