This is why Trump sucks.....

[Moose Magnificent Rack]

false idiot . He has called it a Democrat virus , a hoax virus. He now calls it the Chinese virus . I heard him say it . I watched many of the press conferences . He was overseas when he said it . Even the chairman of the intel committee wrote opt article saying it was no big deal . That was highlighted on Tucker show last night.

Is it possible to retract an apology? If so I am retracting the one I made to you before the whole Chat. A man like you deserves the type of comment I made.

 

[andrewdc07]

What a bunch of Retardlicans. Get real and realize Trump is a stupid, idiot, loser of a human being.

You shouldn’t talk about yourself that way.

 

[Hoffman_rg]

Sorry Lady Dog, our president is killing our country. He is a racist, sexist, asshole. And a criminal to boot. And to top it all off, he isn’t even a real republican.

Trump is even buying all the toilet paper in the country just to piss u off.

 

[Jimy jenga]

Trump is even buying all the toilet paper in the country just to piss u off.

You say that in jest, however, that is the type of person he is. A total dick.

 

[Hoffman_rg]

You say that in jest, however, that is the type of person he is. A total dick.

I guess that is why he donates his salary of $400K to charity.

 

[Bulldawg1971]

false idiot . He has called it a Democrat virus , a hoax virus. He now calls it the Chinese virus . I heard him say it . I watched many of the press conferences . He was overseas when he said it . Even the chairman of the intel committee wrote opt article saying it was no big deal . That was highlighted on Tucker show last night.

You are mistaken about Trump thinking the coronavirus was some fictional, made up phenomenon. He never thought that, but a vast majority of our media in this country put that narrative out there and tried to purposely mislead the public, like they so often do, because they know there are enough stupid people, like you, who would buy it hook, line and sinker.

If you can link video footage of Trump calling the coronavirus a “Democrat virus” or a “hoax virus”, I will eat your hat. But you can’t because Trump never did.

 

[Kylo Ren]

I don't need to read it to know the article and OP are FOS.

yep bigtime FOS..

 

[Kylo Ren]

No, Trump did not think the virus itself was a hoax! That is such an uninformed opinion and just factually not true. What he was referring to when he said the word “hoax” was the fact that it would be another item in a long list of things that the Democrats would try to distort and lie about in regards to how he and his administration would handle it. Trump never thought people were lying about the actual outbreak of the coronavirus.

yep he didn't.. only a certifiable moron would read what he said and believe he said the virus was a hoax.. i see we have a few in this thread.

 

[Kylo Ren]

Hell yes! He should have locked down the whole country in January before anybody so much as sniffled or had even heard of COVID 19. Then he should have pulled a whole new healthcare infrastructure out of his ass, developed tests and a vaccine for an unknown virus in 24 hours.

Americans would have understood the urgency and would have willingly given up 25% of their 401k value. 50 governors would have instantly agreed to cooperate.

Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell would have coordinated unanimous passage of a trillion dollar stimulus before anyone got sick.

Liberals would have praised the lockdown and international travel bans. CNN and MSPMS would be screaming for Congress to declare national Trump holiday.

EDIT: And only an idiot would not 100% trust all intelligence provided by the same agencies who have been documented as attempting an illegal coup to remove him from office, especially when the wheels of that coup began turning based on documented, falsified intel presented in American FISA courts by those same agencies.

LOLOL.. great reply.. heck as of january 14th, 2020 the WHO was saying per Chinese doctors that there was no proof of human to human transmission..

 

[Jimy jenga]

You are mistaken about Trump thinking the coronavirus was some fictional, made up phenomenon. He never thought that, but a vast majority of our media in this country put that narrative out there and tried to purposely mislead the public, like they so often do, because they know there are enough stupid people, like you, who would buy it hook, line and sinker.

If you can link video footage of Trump calling the coronavirus a “Democrat virus” or a “hoax virus”, I will eat your hat. But you can’t because Trump never did.

Boy, you must be the grand poobah of the Trump cult.

 

[Jimy jenga]

I guess that is why he donates his salary of $400K to charity.

Sort of like the Mafia kingpin who pays for all the kids school supplies in his neighborhood as he sells drugs and kills people at night in the same hood.

 

[MassachusettsDawg]

Sort of like the Mafia kingpin who pays for all the kids school supplies in his neighborhood as he sells drugs and kills people at night in the same hood.

Comparing the President of the United States to a mafia kingpin...Trump Derangement Syndrome really is a debilitating mental disorder.

 

[Jimy jenga]

Comparing the President of the United States to a mafia kingpin...Trump Derangement Syndrome really is a debilitating mental disorder.

If the shoe fits.....

 

[Hoffman_rg]

You are mistaken about Trump thinking the coronavirus was some fictional, made up phenomenon. He never thought that, but a vast majority of our media in this country put that narrative out there and tried to purposely mislead the public, like they so often do, because they know there are enough stupid people, like you, who would buy it hook, line and sinker.

If you can link video footage of Trump calling the coronavirus a “Democrat virus” or a “hoax virus”, I will eat your hat. But you can’t because Trump never did.

Boy, you must be the grand poobah of the Trump cult.

No Jimy, he is just another guy that realizes turning over the country to the democrat cult would destroy the country. The democrat cult which is running a senile old man to be president. He is such a joke.

 

[MassachusettsDawg]

No Jimy, he is just another guy that realizes turning over the country to the democrat cult would destroy the country. The democrat cult which is running a senile old man to be president. He is such a joke.

Biden's been well-known as the dumbest man in the Senate for nearly 40 years. And he's STILL the Dems' best shot at taking down Trump.

 

[GADAWGinIraq]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

U.S. intelligence reports from January and February warned about a likely pandemic

President Trump attends the coronavirus response daily briefing at the White House on March 20.
President Trump attends the coronavirus response daily briefing at the White House on March 20. (Jonathan Ernst/Reuters)
By
Shane Harris,
Greg Miller,
Josh Dawsey and
Ellen Nakashima
March 20, 2020 at 8:10 p.m. EDT
U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while President Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread of the pathogen, according to U.S. officials familiar with spy agency reporting.
The intelligence reports didn’t predict when the virus might land on U.S. shores or recommend particular steps that public health officials should take, issues outside the purview of the intelligence agencies. But they did track the spread of the virus in China, and later in other countries, and warned that Chinese officials appeared to be minimizing the severity of the outbreak.
Taken together, the reports and warnings painted an early picture of a virus that showed the characteristics of a globe-encircling pandemic that could require governments to take swift actions to contain it. But despite that constant flow of reporting, Trump continued publicly and privately to play down the threat the virus posed to Americans. Lawmakers, too, did not grapple with the virus in earnest until this month, as officials scrambled to keep citizens in their homes and hospitals braced for a surge in patients suffering from covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.
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Intelligence agencies “have been warning on this since January,” said a U.S. official who had access to intelligence reporting that was disseminated to members of Congress and their staffs as well as to officials in the Trump administration, and who, along with others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive information.

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At least seven times over the past two months, President Trump said the number of coronavirus cases in the U.S. were falling or contained even as they rose. (Video: JM Rieger/Photo: Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
“Donald Trump may not have been expecting this, but a lot of other people in the government were — they just couldn’t get him to do anything about it,” this official said. “The system was blinking red.”
Shut in and stir-crazy: Grappling with a new reality

Spokespeople for the CIA and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment, and a White House spokesman rebutted criticism of Trump’s response.
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“President Trump has taken historic, aggressive measures to protect the health, wealth and safety of the American people — and did so, while the media and Democrats chose to only focus on the stupid politics of a sham illegitimate impeachment,” Hogan Gidley said in a statement. “It’s more than disgusting, despicable and disgraceful for cowardly unnamed sources to attempt to rewrite history — it’s a clear threat to this great country.”
Public health experts have criticized China for being slow to respond to the coronavirus outbreak, which originated in Wuhan, and have said precious time was lost in the effort to slow the spread. At a White House briefing Friday, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said officials had been alerted to the initial reports of the virus by discussions that the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had with Chinese colleagues on Jan. 3.
The warnings from U.S. intelligence agencies increased in volume toward the end of January and into early February, said officials familiar with the reports. By then, a majority of the intelligence reporting included in daily briefing papers and digests from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the CIA was about covid-19, said officials who have read the reports.
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The surge in warnings coincided with a move by Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) to sell dozens of stocks worth between $628,033 and $1.72 million. As chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Burr was privy to virtually all of the highly classified reporting on the coronavirus. Burr issued a statement Friday defending his sell-off, saying he sold based entirely on publicly available information, and he called for the Senate Ethics Committee to investigate.
How damning are Richard Burr’s and Kelly Loeffler’s coronavirus stock trades? Let’s break it down.

A key task for analysts during disease outbreaks is to determine whether foreign officials are trying to minimize the effects of an outbreak or take steps to hide a public health crisis, according to current and former officials familiar with the process.
At the State Department, personnel had been nervously tracking early reports about the virus. One official noted that it was discussed at a meeting in the third week of January, around the time that cable traffic showed that U.S. diplomats in Wuhan were being brought home on chartered planes — a sign that the public health risk was significant. A colleague at the White House mentioned how concerned he was about the transmissibility of the virus.
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“In January, there was obviously a lot of chatter,” the official said.
Inside the White House, Trump’s advisers struggled to get him to take the virus seriously, according to multiple officials with knowledge of meetings among those advisers and with the president.
Azar couldn’t get through to Trump to speak with him about the virus until Jan. 18, according to two senior administration officials. When he reached Trump by phone, the president interjected to ask about vaping and when flavored vaping products would be back on the market, the senior administration officials said.
On Jan. 27, White House aides huddled with then-acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney in his office, trying to get senior officials to pay more attention to the virus, according to people briefed on the meeting. Joe Grogan, the head of the White House Domestic Policy Council, argued that the administration needed to take the virus seriously or it could cost the president his reelection, and that dealing with the virus was likely to dominate life in the United States for many months.
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Mulvaney then began convening more regular meetings. In early briefings, however, officials said Trump was dismissive because he did not believe that the virus had spread widely throughout the United States.
By early February, Grogan and others worried that there weren’t enough tests to determine the rate of infection, according to people who spoke directly to Grogan. Other officials, including Matthew Pottinger, the president’s deputy national security adviser, began calling for a more forceful response, according to people briefed on White House meetings.
But Trump resisted and continued to assure Americans that the coronavirus would never run rampant as it had in other countries.
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“I think it’s going to work out fine,” Trump said on Feb. 19. “I think when we get into April, in the warmer weather, that has a very negative effect on that and that type of a virus.”
“The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA,” Trump tweeted five days later. “Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
But earlier that month, a senior official in the Department of Health and Human Services delivered a starkly different message to the Senate Intelligence Committee, in a classified briefing that four U.S. officials said covered the coronavirus and its global health implications.
Robert Kadlec, the assistant secretary for preparedness and response — who was joined by intelligence officials, including from the CIA — told committee members that the virus posed a “serious” threat, one of those officials said.
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Kadlec didn’t provide specific recommendations, but he said that to get ahead of the virus and blunt its effects, Americans would need to take actions that could disrupt their daily lives, the official said. “It was very alarming.”
These simulations show how to flatten the coronavirus growth curve

Trump’s insistence on the contrary seemed to rest in his relationship with China’s President Xi Jingping, whom Trump believed was providing him with reliable information about how the virus was spreading in China, despite reports from intelligence agencies that Chinese officials were not being candid about the true scale of the crisis.
Some of Trump’s advisers told him that Beijing was not providing accurate numbers of people who were infected or who had died, according to administration officials. Rather than press China to be more forthcoming, Trump publicly praised its response.
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“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus,” Trump tweeted Jan. 24. “The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”
Some of Trump’s advisers encouraged him to be tougher on China over its decision not to allow teams from the CDC into the country, administration officials said.
In one February meeting, the president said that if he struck a tougher tone against Xi, the Chinese would be less willing to give the Americans information about how they were tackling the outbreak.
Trump on Feb. 3 banned foreigners who had been in China in the previous 14 days from entering the United States, a step he often credits for helping to protect Americans against the virus. He has also said publicly that the Chinese weren’t honest about the effects of the virus. But that travel ban wasn’t accompanied by additional significant steps to prepare for when the virus eventually infected people in the United States in great numbers.
As the disease spread beyond China, U.S. spy agencies tracked outbreaks in Iran, South Korea, Taiwan, Italy and elsewhere in Europe, the officials familiar with those reports said. The majority of the information came from public sources, including news reports and official statements, but a significant portion also came from classified intelligence sources. As new cases popped up, the volume of reporting spiked.
As the first cases of infection were confirmed in the United States, Trump continued to insist that the risk to Americans was small.
“I think the virus is going to be — it’s going to be fine,” he said on Feb. 10.
“We have a very small number of people in the country, right now, with it,” he said four days later. “It’s like around 12. Many of them are getting better. Some are fully recovered already. So we’re in very good shape.”
On Feb. 25, Nancy Messonnier, a senior CDC official, sounded perhaps the most significant public alarm to that point, when she told reporters that the coronavirus was likely to spread within communities in the United States and that disruptions to daily life could be “severe.” Trump called Azar on his way back from a trip to India and complained that Messonnier was scaring the stock markets, according to two senior administration officials.
Trump eventually changed his tone after being shown statistical models about the spread of the virus from other countries and hearing directly from Deborah Birx, the coordinator of the White House coronavirus task force, as well as from chief executives last week rattled by a plunge in the stock market, said people familiar with Trump’s conversations.
But by then, the signs pointing to a major outbreak in the United States were everywhere

Those anonymous sources keep disappointing the Dems.

 

[GADAWGinIraq]

Sorry, I am not a racist. I don’t cheat, and I have respect for our country. Rump does not. He is a fat POS liar who has only one interest, his own personal wealth. **** him!

I don't think you understand the definition of respect brother.

 

[Bulldawg1971]

Boy, you must be the grand poobah of the Trump cult.

Please tell me what in my post is inaccurate.

Telling the truth about a situation is not being part of a cult, it’s just being honest and straightforward.

 

[Jimy jenga]

I don't think you understand the definition of respect brother.

Sorry, but I do. We will have to agree to disagree.

 

[WillTheThrill]

Hell yes! He should have locked down the whole country in January before anybody so much as sniffled or had even heard of COVID 19. Then he should have pulled a whole new healthcare infrastructure out of his ass, developed tests and a vaccine for an unknown virus in 24 hours.

Americans would have understood the urgency and would have willingly given up 25% of their 401k value. 50 governors would have instantly agreed to cooperate.

Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell would have coordinated unanimous passage of a trillion dollar stimulus before anyone got sick.

Liberals would have praised the lockdown and international travel bans. CNN and MSPMS would be screaming for Congress to declare national Trump holiday.

EDIT: And only an idiot would not 100% trust all intelligence provided by the same agencies who have been documented as attempting an illegal coup to remove him from office, especially when the wheels of that coup began turning based on documented, falsified intel presented in American FISA courts by those same agencies.

As a Trump fan (and voter) for 20+ years and having read all his books... I will the first to admit that I have held him to a very high standard and have often complained he can't get out of his own way and even needs to be a bit more polite as to not piss off enough to lose the election.... BUT, right here right now... I couldn't imagine ANYONE leading this WAR against this invisible killer. He's not perfect, there will be mistakes, and this will be worse way before better but he's not afraid and he's gonna see it through. I just wish FOR ONCE, everyone could just push together and the snowflake complainers who are playing Monday Morning QB could just STFU and try to SMILE and be apart of the solution and not the problem!

 

[GADAWGinIraq]

As a Trump fan (and voter) for 20+ years and having read all his books... I will the first to admit that I have held him to a very high standard and have often complained he can't get out of his own way and even needs to be a bit more polite as to not piss off enough to lose the election.... BUT, right here right now... I couldn't imagine ANYONE leading this WAR against this invisible killer. He's not perfect, there will be mistakes, and this will be worse way before better but he's not afraid and he's gonna see it through. I just wish FOR ONCE, everyone could just push together and the snowflake complainers who are playing Monday Morning QB could just STFU and try to SMILE and be apart of the solution and not the problem!

Even Dana Bash praised Trump...

 

[Rolodawg2011]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

U.S. intelligence reports from January and February warned about a likely pandemic

President Trump attends the coronavirus response daily briefing at the White House on March 20.
President Trump attends the coronavirus response daily briefing at the White House on March 20. (Jonathan Ernst/Reuters)
By
Shane Harris,
Greg Miller,
Josh Dawsey and
Ellen Nakashima
March 20, 2020 at 8:10 p.m. EDT
U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while President Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread of the pathogen, according to U.S. officials familiar with spy agency reporting.
The intelligence reports didn’t predict when the virus might land on U.S. shores or recommend particular steps that public health officials should take, issues outside the purview of the intelligence agencies. But they did track the spread of the virus in China, and later in other countries, and warned that Chinese officials appeared to be minimizing the severity of the outbreak.
Taken together, the reports and warnings painted an early picture of a virus that showed the characteristics of a globe-encircling pandemic that could require governments to take swift actions to contain it. But despite that constant flow of reporting, Trump continued publicly and privately to play down the threat the virus posed to Americans. Lawmakers, too, did not grapple with the virus in earnest until this month, as officials scrambled to keep citizens in their homes and hospitals braced for a surge in patients suffering from covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.
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Intelligence agencies “have been warning on this since January,” said a U.S. official who had access to intelligence reporting that was disseminated to members of Congress and their staffs as well as to officials in the Trump administration, and who, along with others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive information.

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At least seven times over the past two months, President Trump said the number of coronavirus cases in the U.S. were falling or contained even as they rose. (Video: JM Rieger/Photo: Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
“Donald Trump may not have been expecting this, but a lot of other people in the government were — they just couldn’t get him to do anything about it,” this official said. “The system was blinking red.”
Shut in and stir-crazy: Grappling with a new reality

Spokespeople for the CIA and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment, and a White House spokesman rebutted criticism of Trump’s response.
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“President Trump has taken historic, aggressive measures to protect the health, wealth and safety of the American people — and did so, while the media and Democrats chose to only focus on the stupid politics of a sham illegitimate impeachment,” Hogan Gidley said in a statement. “It’s more than disgusting, despicable and disgraceful for cowardly unnamed sources to attempt to rewrite history — it’s a clear threat to this great country.”
Public health experts have criticized China for being slow to respond to the coronavirus outbreak, which originated in Wuhan, and have said precious time was lost in the effort to slow the spread. At a White House briefing Friday, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said officials had been alerted to the initial reports of the virus by discussions that the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had with Chinese colleagues on Jan. 3.
The warnings from U.S. intelligence agencies increased in volume toward the end of January and into early February, said officials familiar with the reports. By then, a majority of the intelligence reporting included in daily briefing papers and digests from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the CIA was about covid-19, said officials who have read the reports.
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The surge in warnings coincided with a move by Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) to sell dozens of stocks worth between $628,033 and $1.72 million. As chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Burr was privy to virtually all of the highly classified reporting on the coronavirus. Burr issued a statement Friday defending his sell-off, saying he sold based entirely on publicly available information, and he called for the Senate Ethics Committee to investigate.
How damning are Richard Burr’s and Kelly Loeffler’s coronavirus stock trades? Let’s break it down.

A key task for analysts during disease outbreaks is to determine whether foreign officials are trying to minimize the effects of an outbreak or take steps to hide a public health crisis, according to current and former officials familiar with the process.
At the State Department, personnel had been nervously tracking early reports about the virus. One official noted that it was discussed at a meeting in the third week of January, around the time that cable traffic showed that U.S. diplomats in Wuhan were being brought home on chartered planes — a sign that the public health risk was significant. A colleague at the White House mentioned how concerned he was about the transmissibility of the virus.
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“In January, there was obviously a lot of chatter,” the official said.
Inside the White House, Trump’s advisers struggled to get him to take the virus seriously, according to multiple officials with knowledge of meetings among those advisers and with the president.
Azar couldn’t get through to Trump to speak with him about the virus until Jan. 18, according to two senior administration officials. When he reached Trump by phone, the president interjected to ask about vaping and when flavored vaping products would be back on the market, the senior administration officials said.
On Jan. 27, White House aides huddled with then-acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney in his office, trying to get senior officials to pay more attention to the virus, according to people briefed on the meeting. Joe Grogan, the head of the White House Domestic Policy Council, argued that the administration needed to take the virus seriously or it could cost the president his reelection, and that dealing with the virus was likely to dominate life in the United States for many months.
AD
FAQ: What you need to know about coronavirus

Mulvaney then began convening more regular meetings. In early briefings, however, officials said Trump was dismissive because he did not believe that the virus had spread widely throughout the United States.
By early February, Grogan and others worried that there weren’t enough tests to determine the rate of infection, according to people who spoke directly to Grogan. Other officials, including Matthew Pottinger, the president’s deputy national security adviser, began calling for a more forceful response, according to people briefed on White House meetings.
But Trump resisted and continued to assure Americans that the coronavirus would never run rampant as it had in other countries.
AD
“I think it’s going to work out fine,” Trump said on Feb. 19. “I think when we get into April, in the warmer weather, that has a very negative effect on that and that type of a virus.”
“The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA,” Trump tweeted five days later. “Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
But earlier that month, a senior official in the Department of Health and Human Services delivered a starkly different message to the Senate Intelligence Committee, in a classified briefing that four U.S. officials said covered the coronavirus and its global health implications.
Robert Kadlec, the assistant secretary for preparedness and response — who was joined by intelligence officials, including from the CIA — told committee members that the virus posed a “serious” threat, one of those officials said.
AD
Kadlec didn’t provide specific recommendations, but he said that to get ahead of the virus and blunt its effects, Americans would need to take actions that could disrupt their daily lives, the official said. “It was very alarming.”
These simulations show how to flatten the coronavirus growth curve

Trump’s insistence on the contrary seemed to rest in his relationship with China’s President Xi Jingping, whom Trump believed was providing him with reliable information about how the virus was spreading in China, despite reports from intelligence agencies that Chinese officials were not being candid about the true scale of the crisis.
Some of Trump’s advisers told him that Beijing was not providing accurate numbers of people who were infected or who had died, according to administration officials. Rather than press China to be more forthcoming, Trump publicly praised its response.
AD
“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus,” Trump tweeted Jan. 24. “The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”
Some of Trump’s advisers encouraged him to be tougher on China over its decision not to allow teams from the CDC into the country, administration officials said.
In one February meeting, the president said that if he struck a tougher tone against Xi, the Chinese would be less willing to give the Americans information about how they were tackling the outbreak.
Trump on Feb. 3 banned foreigners who had been in China in the previous 14 days from entering the United States, a step he often credits for helping to protect Americans against the virus. He has also said publicly that the Chinese weren’t honest about the effects of the virus. But that travel ban wasn’t accompanied by additional significant steps to prepare for when the virus eventually infected people in the United States in great numbers.
As the disease spread beyond China, U.S. spy agencies tracked outbreaks in Iran, South Korea, Taiwan, Italy and elsewhere in Europe, the officials familiar with those reports said. The majority of the information came from public sources, including news reports and official statements, but a significant portion also came from classified intelligence sources. As new cases popped up, the volume of reporting spiked.
As the first cases of infection were confirmed in the United States, Trump continued to insist that the risk to Americans was small.
“I think the virus is going to be — it’s going to be fine,” he said on Feb. 10.
“We have a very small number of people in the country, right now, with it,” he said four days later. “It’s like around 12. Many of them are getting better. Some are fully recovered already. So we’re in very good shape.”
On Feb. 25, Nancy Messonnier, a senior CDC official, sounded perhaps the most significant public alarm to that point, when she told reporters that the coronavirus was likely to spread within communities in the United States and that disruptions to daily life could be “severe.” Trump called Azar on his way back from a trip to India and complained that Messonnier was scaring the stock markets, according to two senior administration officials.
Trump eventually changed his tone after being shown statistical models about the spread of the virus from other countries and hearing directly from Deborah Birx, the coordinator of the White House coronavirus task force, as well as from chief executives last week rattled by a plunge in the stock market, said people familiar with Trump’s conversations.
But by then, the signs pointing to a major outbreak in the United States were everywhere

This is why fake news and the Democrat party can exist...Stupid fcks. Of course, cases were going to rise, its a virus, I'd say our response and control while completely over the top ridiculous has been just fine. But political hacks, drama queens and slip and fall lawyers have to make hay while the sun shines. Never let a crisis go to waste on leftist hack once said

 

[Jimy jenga]

This is why fake news and the Democrat party can exist...Stupid fcks. Of course, cases were going to rise, its a virus, I'd say our response and control while completely over the top ridiculous has been just fine. But political hacks, drama queens and slip and fall lawyers have to make hay while the sun shines. Never let a crisis go to waste on leftist hack once said

Complete and utter bullshit! Our response has been terrible. While our intelligence community was telling the WH that this could be serious shit all the way back in January, Trump said it was a hoax. Thanks you piece of shit! Guess what, it isn’t going to just magically go away.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

Complete and utter bullshit! Our response has been terrible. While our intelligence community was telling the WH that this could be serious shit all the way back in January, Trump said it was a hoax. Thanks you piece of shit! Guess what, it isn’t going to just magically go away.

Seems you need a pad change hun.

 

[Jimy jenga]

Seems you need a pad change hun.

Whatever, Trump is still an asshat who doesn’t give a shot about our country. But nice comeback!

 

[Rolodawg2011]

Whatever, Trump is still an asshat who doesn’t give a shot about our country. But nice comeback!

Yeah, give up a billionaire lifestyle, doesn't take a paycheck all because he doesn't give a shit about the Country. Its dumb shit like that that has me wondering of guys in white coats are looking over your shoulder as you type? The good news is...Four more years of Trump, so you should have time to get all the help you need. Maybe one day they'll even allow you shows that have strings in them

 

[dogstud]

Those anonymous sources keep disappointing the Dems.

That'd be a mic drop brother, good one!

 

[dogstud]

Somebody in this thread is gonna be awful frustrated for 4 more years.

 

[dirtytoeddawg]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

U.S. intelligence reports from January and February warned about a likely pandemic

President Trump attends the coronavirus response daily briefing at the White House on March 20.
President Trump attends the coronavirus response daily briefing at the White House on March 20. (Jonathan Ernst/Reuters)
By
Shane Harris,
Greg Miller,
Josh Dawsey and
Ellen Nakashima
March 20, 2020 at 8:10 p.m. EDT
U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while President Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread of the pathogen, according to U.S. officials familiar with spy agency reporting.
The intelligence reports didn’t predict when the virus might land on U.S. shores or recommend particular steps that public health officials should take, issues outside the purview of the intelligence agencies. But they did track the spread of the virus in China, and later in other countries, and warned that Chinese officials appeared to be minimizing the severity of the outbreak.
Taken together, the reports and warnings painted an early picture of a virus that showed the characteristics of a globe-encircling pandemic that could require governments to take swift actions to contain it. But despite that constant flow of reporting, Trump continued publicly and privately to play down the threat the virus posed to Americans. Lawmakers, too, did not grapple with the virus in earnest until this month, as officials scrambled to keep citizens in their homes and hospitals braced for a surge in patients suffering from covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.
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Intelligence agencies “have been warning on this since January,” said a U.S. official who had access to intelligence reporting that was disseminated to members of Congress and their staffs as well as to officials in the Trump administration, and who, along with others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive information.

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At least seven times over the past two months, President Trump said the number of coronavirus cases in the U.S. were falling or contained even as they rose. (Video: JM Rieger/Photo: Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
“Donald Trump may not have been expecting this, but a lot of other people in the government were — they just couldn’t get him to do anything about it,” this official said. “The system was blinking red.”
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Spokespeople for the CIA and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment, and a White House spokesman rebutted criticism of Trump’s response.
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“President Trump has taken historic, aggressive measures to protect the health, wealth and safety of the American people — and did so, while the media and Democrats chose to only focus on the stupid politics of a sham illegitimate impeachment,” Hogan Gidley said in a statement. “It’s more than disgusting, despicable and disgraceful for cowardly unnamed sources to attempt to rewrite history — it’s a clear threat to this great country.”
Public health experts have criticized China for being slow to respond to the coronavirus outbreak, which originated in Wuhan, and have said precious time was lost in the effort to slow the spread. At a White House briefing Friday, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said officials had been alerted to the initial reports of the virus by discussions that the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had with Chinese colleagues on Jan. 3.
The warnings from U.S. intelligence agencies increased in volume toward the end of January and into early February, said officials familiar with the reports. By then, a majority of the intelligence reporting included in daily briefing papers and digests from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the CIA was about covid-19, said officials who have read the reports.
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The surge in warnings coincided with a move by Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) to sell dozens of stocks worth between $628,033 and $1.72 million. As chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Burr was privy to virtually all of the highly classified reporting on the coronavirus. Burr issued a statement Friday defending his sell-off, saying he sold based entirely on publicly available information, and he called for the Senate Ethics Committee to investigate.
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A key task for analysts during disease outbreaks is to determine whether foreign officials are trying to minimize the effects of an outbreak or take steps to hide a public health crisis, according to current and former officials familiar with the process.
At the State Department, personnel had been nervously tracking early reports about the virus. One official noted that it was discussed at a meeting in the third week of January, around the time that cable traffic showed that U.S. diplomats in Wuhan were being brought home on chartered planes — a sign that the public health risk was significant. A colleague at the White House mentioned how concerned he was about the transmissibility of the virus.
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“In January, there was obviously a lot of chatter,” the official said.
Inside the White House, Trump’s advisers struggled to get him to take the virus seriously, according to multiple officials with knowledge of meetings among those advisers and with the president.
Azar couldn’t get through to Trump to speak with him about the virus until Jan. 18, according to two senior administration officials. When he reached Trump by phone, the president interjected to ask about vaping and when flavored vaping products would be back on the market, the senior administration officials said.
On Jan. 27, White House aides huddled with then-acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney in his office, trying to get senior officials to pay more attention to the virus, according to people briefed on the meeting. Joe Grogan, the head of the White House Domestic Policy Council, argued that the administration needed to take the virus seriously or it could cost the president his reelection, and that dealing with the virus was likely to dominate life in the United States for many months.
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Mulvaney then began convening more regular meetings. In early briefings, however, officials said Trump was dismissive because he did not believe that the virus had spread widely throughout the United States.
By early February, Grogan and others worried that there weren’t enough tests to determine the rate of infection, according to people who spoke directly to Grogan. Other officials, including Matthew Pottinger, the president’s deputy national security adviser, began calling for a more forceful response, according to people briefed on White House meetings.
But Trump resisted and continued to assure Americans that the coronavirus would never run rampant as it had in other countries.
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“I think it’s going to work out fine,” Trump said on Feb. 19. “I think when we get into April, in the warmer weather, that has a very negative effect on that and that type of a virus.”
“The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA,” Trump tweeted five days later. “Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
But earlier that month, a senior official in the Department of Health and Human Services delivered a starkly different message to the Senate Intelligence Committee, in a classified briefing that four U.S. officials said covered the coronavirus and its global health implications.
Robert Kadlec, the assistant secretary for preparedness and response — who was joined by intelligence officials, including from the CIA — told committee members that the virus posed a “serious” threat, one of those officials said.
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Kadlec didn’t provide specific recommendations, but he said that to get ahead of the virus and blunt its effects, Americans would need to take actions that could disrupt their daily lives, the official said. “It was very alarming.”
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Trump’s insistence on the contrary seemed to rest in his relationship with China’s President Xi Jingping, whom Trump believed was providing him with reliable information about how the virus was spreading in China, despite reports from intelligence agencies that Chinese officials were not being candid about the true scale of the crisis.
Some of Trump’s advisers told him that Beijing was not providing accurate numbers of people who were infected or who had died, according to administration officials. Rather than press China to be more forthcoming, Trump publicly praised its response.
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“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus,” Trump tweeted Jan. 24. “The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”
Some of Trump’s advisers encouraged him to be tougher on China over its decision not to allow teams from the CDC into the country, administration officials said.
In one February meeting, the president said that if he struck a tougher tone against Xi, the Chinese would be less willing to give the Americans information about how they were tackling the outbreak.
Trump on Feb. 3 banned foreigners who had been in China in the previous 14 days from entering the United States, a step he often credits for helping to protect Americans against the virus. He has also said publicly that the Chinese weren’t honest about the effects of the virus. But that travel ban wasn’t accompanied by additional significant steps to prepare for when the virus eventually infected people in the United States in great numbers.
As the disease spread beyond China, U.S. spy agencies tracked outbreaks in Iran, South Korea, Taiwan, Italy and elsewhere in Europe, the officials familiar with those reports said. The majority of the information came from public sources, including news reports and official statements, but a significant portion also came from classified intelligence sources. As new cases popped up, the volume of reporting spiked.
As the first cases of infection were confirmed in the United States, Trump continued to insist that the risk to Americans was small.
“I think the virus is going to be — it’s going to be fine,” he said on Feb. 10.
“We have a very small number of people in the country, right now, with it,” he said four days later. “It’s like around 12. Many of them are getting better. Some are fully recovered already. So we’re in very good shape.”
On Feb. 25, Nancy Messonnier, a senior CDC official, sounded perhaps the most significant public alarm to that point, when she told reporters that the coronavirus was likely to spread within communities in the United States and that disruptions to daily life could be “severe.” Trump called Azar on his way back from a trip to India and complained that Messonnier was scaring the stock markets, according to two senior administration officials.
Trump eventually changed his tone after being shown statistical models about the spread of the virus from other countries and hearing directly from Deborah Birx, the coordinator of the White House coronavirus task force, as well as from chief executives last week rattled by a plunge in the stock market, said people familiar with Trump’s conversations.
But by then, the signs pointing to a major outbreak in the United States were everywhere

 

[stick jackson]

So, you wanted to shelter in place back in Jan? WaPo and NYT will runs stories from now until Nov criticizing Trump. It’s not his fault. If anything it’s the fault of CDC and those who have been in Congress for decades

Who said anything about sheltering in place? That’s what we have to do now because Trump did nothing to prepare us during the interim. He could have taken action to get more masks, more respirators and urge people to start more limited forms of social distancing. Instead he was calling it all a hoax and telling people to travel.

 

[Dirty Hairy Dawg]

Complete and utter bullshit! Our response has been terrible. While our intelligence community was telling the WH that this could be serious shit all the way back in January, Trump said it was a hoax. Thanks you piece of shit! Guess what, it isn’t going to just magically go away.

Uh, do you think the chairman of the house Intel committee got the reports? I wonder what he decided was important during this time. Do you think the Senate minority leader got a heads up that a catastrophe may be brewing?

After it was inevitable that the virus was on the move, did the opposition party try to present a united front?

Trump is fair game for criticism but I can't think of one instance were he was actually working against the national interest. I can give endless examples of Dems trying to torpedo the admin while knowing a foreign health crisis was heading our way but hey, orange man bad is all that matters to the loons of the left.

And yes, just like Ebola, h1n1, polio, the Spanish flu, this will disappear from the headlines and be brought under control. He'll, if a dem wins in Nov, it won't be a story in Dec.

 

[TheRealJohnCooper]

Gawd you suck just as much at this as you do posting over on the vent.

 

[-lowcountrydawg]

Is it possible to retract an apology? If so I am retracting the one I made to you before the whole Chat. A man like you deserves the type of comment I made.

This is real simple. When it is all said and done the stats will speak for themselves. And despite being the global melting pot of the world, with travelers from all over (making us arguably the most vulnerable nation outside of China for this virus), the number of deaths relative to total population will be among the lowest, if not THE lowest, in the world. It is that one stat that matters. And it cannot be spun one way or another. And at that point, if you criticize our leadership, than you by default are saying every other leader below the US in that statistic did even worse.

 

[ibengood]

@Jimy jenga up in here after binge watching Al Jazeera....