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NonDawg Tyreek Hill bodycam video

Just cause you don't like that he didn't fully roll the window down isn't a legal reason to remove someone from the vehicle. It's not a blanket legal issue that a cop can make you exit the vehicle just because
Except it is…
 
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Pennsylvania v Mimms, and the other I don’t recall (it’s been awhile), allows law enforcement to lawfully remove drivers from the vehicle. The window was irrelevant at that point IMO. Having them exit the vehicle just takes the whole arguing back and forth about the window out of the equation.
Just bc they can doesn’t mean they should forcibly remove him. You are giving the cops a pass to almost immediately go right up to the line of how rough they can be legally. Maybe there are some steps in between that this officer could have have used.
 
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I would’ve rolled my window up too after seeing one of the Village People with a neck tat. Yuck.
 
He was going 103 in a 55
Miami Gardens is built wall-to-wall. That’s heavily congested full of people. For those defending the fact that the cops didn’t kiss his ass, I don’t know what to say. These cops have probably scraped enough kids off the street or called enough moms and dads to tell them their kids were dead from car accidents that they have very little tolerance for this kind of bullshit. And His didn’t do nothing routine is bullshit he did do something.
 
Just bc they can doesn’t mean they should forcibly remove him. You are giving the cops a pass to almost immediately go right up to the line of how rough they can be legally. Maybe there are some steps in between that this officer could have have used.
It’s perfectly legal to have them exit the vehicle during traffic stops. It was only forcibly done because the backup officer unnecessarily escalated it after Hill initially refused to exit. I would have given him more time to comply but unfortunately hothead backup officer foiled that opportunity.

Honestly if Hill would have just taken the L after being caught driving over 100 and acted like an adult it probably would have all been squashed. But he wanted to argue, roll his window up, and refused to exit and then the jackass third officer saw that as an opportunity to show his ass.
 
He was going 103 in a 55
Miami Gardens is built wall-to-wall. That’s heavily congested full of people. For those defending the fact that the cops didn’t kiss his ass, I don’t know what to say. These cops have probably scraped enough kids off the street or called enough moms and dads to tell them their kids were dead from car accidents that they have very little tolerance for this kind of bullshit. And His didn’t do nothing routine is bullshit he did do something.
Yea, see I think he should have been arrested for speeding that much anyways.
 
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Except it is…
It isn't technically. Pennsylvania v Mimms was only about whether or not it was legal to arrest him and charge him on the gun charges after the pat down based on the4th ammendment. The ruling was not about whether or not he can order him out of the car for no reason
 
It isn't technically. Pennsylvania v Mimms was only about whether or not it was legal to arrest him and charge him on the gun charges after the pat down based on the4th ammendment. The ruling was not about whether or not he can order him out of the car for no reason

1. The order to get out of the car, issued after the respondent was lawfully detained, was reasonable, and thus permissible under the Fourth Amendment. The State's proffered justification for such order -- the officer's safety -- is both legitimate and weighty, and the intrusion into respondent's personal liberty occasioned by the order, being, at most, a mere inconvenience, cannot prevail when balanced against legitimate concerns for the officer's safety.
 
He was going 103 in a 55
Miami Gardens is built wall-to-wall. That’s heavily congested full of people. For those defending the fact that the cops didn’t kiss his ass, I don’t know what to say. These cops have probably scraped enough kids off the street or called enough moms and dads to tell them their kids were dead from car accidents that they have very little tolerance for this kind of bullshit. And His didn’t do nothing routine is bullshit he did do something.
Just making shit up lol
 
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Now it’s moved to the chat. The educated will leave and the inbred single digit IQ Trumpers will take over. ****. Peace out.
 
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It’s perfectly legal to have them exit the vehicle during traffic stops. It was only forcibly done because the backup officer unnecessarily escalated it after Hill initially refused to exit. I would have given him more time to comply but unfortunately hothead backup officer foiled that opportunity.

Honestly if Hill would have just taken the L after being caught driving over 100 and acted like an adult it probably would have all been squashed. But he wanted to argue, roll his window up, and refused to exit and then the jackass third officer saw that as an opportunity to show his ass.
That’s my whole point…jackwagon escalated unnecessarily, which is why we are where we are. Maybe we are saying the same thing haha.
 
1. The order to get out of the car, issued after the respondent was lawfully detained, was reasonable, and thus permissible under the Fourth Amendment. The State's proffered justification for such order -- the officer's safety -- is both legitimate and weighty, and the intrusion into respondent's personal liberty occasioned by the order, being, at most, a mere inconvenience, cannot prevail when balanced against legitimate concerns for the officer's safety.
The issue is that safety because of traffic wasn't an issue here. Here, having his window fully rolled down isn't a requirement. He complied with the officer's order, the officer just didn't like that he didn't do exactly what he wanted. And that isn't protected under this ruling. As a police officer, you simply think it's a blanket cover for you. If this went to court today, it wouldn't fly. The reason it did then was because of concerns of getting hit by traffic and most vehicles, if any, didn't have power windows so it was reasonable to ask this out of safety concerns. Now, just about every vehicle comes standard with power windows so all an officer would have to do is go to the other door. This case here was purely ego driven and would never stand in court
 
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The issue is that safety because of traffic wasn't an issue here. Here, having his window fully rolled down isn't a requirement. He complied with the officer's order, the officer just didn't like that he didn't do exactly what he wanted. And that isn't protected under this ruling. As a police officer, you simply think it's a blanket cover for you. If this went to court today, it wouldn't fly. The reason it did then was because of concerns of getting hit by traffic and most vehicles, if any, didn't have power windows so it was reasonable to ask this out of safety concerns. Now, just about every vehicle comes standard with power windows so all an officer would have to do is go to the other door. This case here was purely ego driven and would never stand in court
I’m not a cop anymore, just try to offer my perspective and relevant experience on here. Respectfully, you’re entitled to your wrong interpretation of the case law. I would just strongly urge you to exit the vehicle if you’re ever pulled over and instructed to step out.
 
Almost guaranteed he's got limo tint on that car. My retired cop BIL told me the first thing you do with tinted windows if you are pulled over is roll the windows down.

You can't see shyt through limo tint, not a good move rolling it up when they are standing there like that.

Both parties could have done things a lot differently, but it blows my mind that people still think failure to comply is going to end well.
 
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I’m not a cop anymore, just try to offer my perspective and relevant experience on here. Respectfully, you’re entitled to your wrong interpretation of the case law. I would just strongly urge you to exit the vehicle if you’re ever pulled over and instructed to step out.
It's not a wrong interpretation. You and many others like yourself are grossly overreaching. Officers can't simply force you out for not complying with an order when said person actually complied under the law. Just because it wasn't to the officer's liking isn't valid because now the person being detained has a reasonable amount fear for his safety as well. His rights aren't any less important than the police officer's
 
It's not a wrong interpretation. You and many others like yourself are grossly overreaching. Officers can't simply force you out for not complying with an order when said person actually complied under the law. Just because it wasn't to the officer's liking isn't valid because now the person being detained has a reasonable amount fear for his safety as well. His rights aren't any less important than the police officer's
How fast was Tyreek going?
 
How fast was Tyreek going?
I'm not saying anything about the actual stop itself by no means. IMO, he should have been asked to get out to start with because of his excessive speeding (if the reports are correct that is, I don't personally know how fast he was going) But the way the officer handled the situation, in my personal opinion, I think he saw an exotic car and thought this guy is gonna respect my no matter what I say or else. I'll show him who's boss
 
It's not a wrong interpretation. You and many others like yourself are grossly overreaching. Officers can't simply force you out for not complying with an order when said person actually complied under the law. Just because it wasn't to the officer's liking isn't valid because now the person being detained has a reasonable amount fear for his safety as well. His rights aren't any less important than the police officer's
Okay then you may want to start notifying all of the LE agencies and various training academies across the country that they’ve had one of the most popular case laws wrong for decades.

Probably want to add Maryland v. Wilson as well. Never thought we’d be arguing something as boring as case law on here but here we are. I think that’s my clue.
 
I'm not saying anything about the actual stop itself by no means. IMO, he should have been asked to get out to start with because of his excessive speeding (if the reports are correct that is, I don't personally know how fast he was going) But the way the officer handled the situation, in my personal opinion, I think he saw an exotic car and thought this guy is gonna respect my no matter what I say or else. I'll show him who's boss
Yeah, your opinion could be correct. But, if he was indeed going 50 mph over the speed limit like I've seen alleged, their request of having him keep his deeply tinted windows rolled down is not just reasonable, we're bordering on it being ridiculously lenient. You have a violent criminal driving 50 mph and you don't immediately arrest him? Ridiculous.

I also find it ridiculous that the Dolphins security was able to keep him from getting arrested.
 
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