NonDawg Tyreek Hill bodycam video
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Honestly, after seeing the first video of Hill driving by, it didn't seem that he was racing by at all. Now, I don't know the posted speed limit there but it looked more along the lines of what should have amounted to a normal speeding ticket and possibly a seatbelt violation. Originally, his window is fully rolled down, Hill gave him his info no problem, then the officer starts badgering him about the seatbelt and on more than one occasion reaching into the car for no reason. It was a this point that Hill stayed silent and simply rolled his window up for what I would assume was some sort of safety concern on his end. After several orders from the officer, he rolls the window down roughly 1/4 the way(legal btw), the officer the apparently is dissatisfied and then ego takes over
If you actually read and comprehend what each ruling says, you will see that it is because of circumstance that the officer was in the right to ask the person to step out of the vehicle. It never states that an officer can simply order someone out of a vehicle simply just because. And if LEO agencies are teaching it this way, it's no wonder we the issues we have across the board
Yes…when it involves something as simple as rolling down a window. Getting into arguments over stuff that doesn’t matter is a stupid way to go through life.
The fact that you thought Pennsylvania v. Mimms had anything to do motorized car windows…(it doesn’t by the way) shows you just googled the case after I cited it and formed your own opinion based on this situation with Hill. The courts have held, repeatedly, that LE can absolutely order someone out of the vehicle on a lawful traffic stop “just because”. You may not like it but that does not change decades long case law.
Exactly. This is not rocket science. The police are constantly under stress and don't play around with someone giving them trouble over being asked to lower their window. Just lower the window stupid. It's clear the officer would like to speak with you! Ummm, that's why he's standing there knocking on the window.
I don't think it has anything to do with motorized windows. The entire case is whether or not Mimms' 4th amendment right was violated by asking him to step out of the vehicle. The State argued that the officer did this for every traffic stop for his own personal safety concerns and that this trumped the drivers personal liberty, ie. 4th amendment rights as it was a mere inconvenience compared to the officer's safety concerns. Personally, I think the courts are 100% wrong in their interpretation that the officer's safety concerns outweighs the personal liberties of the driver in this particular case. As stated in the case, at no time did the driver or passenger ever give any reason or appearance of any doubt that would otherwise warrant either officer to ask either the driver or passenger the need to exit the vehicle. In the Maryland v Wilson case, the officer was completely justified by the way Wilson was acting when he approached the vehicle.
When you're in LE, you are an agent of the State. The constitution is there to protect citizens from the State. A perception that every citizen is a threat simply by being alive isn't enough of an excuse to have your 4th amendment rights taken from you because of lack of inconvenience.
In the last 5-10 years, there's been numerous cases that the courts have thrown out and officers being fired because they still believe this idea that they can simply tell a person to exit the vehicle for no other reason than because I said so. It's simply not what any of the Supreme Court rulings ever stated
but, the officer has to fear for his safety to forcibly remove the person from the vehicle. from what i saw there was no overt threat to the officer from hill just an officers wounded ego.
It's obviously possible. In all seriousness, why not comply and go about your business? Wouldn't that be easier.
lets see what a judge rules. but you are correct in a broad interpretation of the ruling an officer may remove a person from a vehicle that has been lawfully stopped for a violation.
This made me sick to my stomach. The cop was combative from the get go
From the time the cop approached, till Hill was on the ground was, what, 60 seconds?
Completely unacceptable
I've been asked to exit my vehicle once. I still have no idea why.
Heading down I-16, just out of Soperton. I'm speeding. GSP pulls me over.
I give him all my documents, including my GWL. He asks if I'm carrying. Yes, in the center console. I ask if he wants to secure it for the duration of the stop. He declined, "Just keep it there and it'll be fine".
He asked where I was headed. I told him, and we had a little conversation about St Simon's Islnd. "Yeah I like it there, I always stay at....
No problem.
When he brought the ticket back, he asked me to get out, and come to the rear of my vehicle. I did.
He explained the ticket info, we shook hands, and I left.
No idea what that was about, but it never crossed my mind to argue with him. He was totally professional and courteous the entire time.
Heading down I-16, just out of Soperton. I'm speeding. GSP pulls me over.
I give him all my documents, including my GWL. He asks if I'm carrying. Yes, in the center console. I ask if he wants to secure it for the duration of the stop. He declined, "Just keep it there and it'll be fine".
He asked where I was headed. I told him, and we had a little conversation about St Simon's Islnd. "Yeah I like it there, I always stay at....
No problem.
When he brought the ticket back, he asked me to get out, and come to the rear of my vehicle. I did.
He explained the ticket info, we shook hands, and I left.
No idea what that was about, but it never crossed my mind to argue with him. He was totally professional and courteous the entire time.
Did you all see the body cam footage of the officer who actually pulled him over??? Tyreek was going f*cking 100 mph on the damn road, was rude as hell and raised his window when the officer was trying to speak to him. STOP BEING F*CKING STUPID and you won’t get dragged out of your f*cking vehicle, COMPLY WITH POLICE
Lol another coddled athlete thinking he’s above the law… f’s around and finds out… now he’s the victim lol… his interview on CNN is laughable… “yeah man… you know what I’m sayin… I was chillin… I’m a dad… I’m a husband… I’m shell shocked man”… lol I bet you are now that your cocky ass got shoved into the asphalt… if he was in fact driving that fast, then he easily deserves the treatment imo… then he runs his mouth and acts the way he did… yes sir no sir and he would of been on his way… you guys defending him and bashing police are lost… they’re all racist meat heads until you need them lol…
LOL, some sort of safety concern on his end. Some of these takes are laughable. Rolling up a tinted window so a cop can't see what you are doing but you think Hill was concerned for his safety? If this guy wasn't a football player he would be in jail already.
He’s one of the most bitter and angry posters on the site… filled with resentment and jealousy… I think it was his upbringing… any chance he gets to throw out insults about other posters ages, political views, or whatever, he jumps on it and it gets so tiresome… constantly shows his immature petty ignorance when he says trash like this… “The educated will leave and the inbred single digit IQ Trumpers will take over. ****. Seems we have a pig on the line…“ There’s no other poster I’d rather meet behind Wachovia than him…
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Hill was running 100 MPH in a construction zone. Failed to follow legal instructions of a Law Enforcement Officer and then played the race card on Hispanic Officers. Hill is a POS.
We had to review the official body cam today in one of our meetings. One thing the Officers did not do is to immediately tell Hill why he was being stopped. Officers should always tell subjects in vehicle stops what the reason for the stop was. Also, if someone is arrested, Officers should tell the people what it will take to get out of jail (misdemeanors should have a collateral amount , but in most states felonies will require a Judge to set a bond).
We had to review the official body cam today in one of our meetings. One thing the Officers did not do is to immediately tell Hill why he was being stopped. Officers should always tell subjects in vehicle stops what the reason for the stop was. Also, if someone is arrested, Officers should tell the people what it will take to get out of jail (misdemeanors should have a collateral amount , but in most states felonies will require a Judge to set a bond).
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