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Well, it appears it's a dark day for America. Freedom is gone...

why didn't trump get on the stand and defend himself? he could have but chose not to.
not taking a side, but just seems strange to me that he didn't.
 
You actually think I'd read all of that from you?
Yes, I know you read it and can’t defend your wrong uninformed wild claims. All you can do is make wise cracks and arrogant claims blowing off that point out the cluelessness of your uninformed posts.
 
It's not illegal to pay a pornstar. So many people talking about this and don't understand. Piers Morgan also doesn't understand what the charges were.
Everyone but you butt chugging Dims understands the law. You make up the charges as you go along not letting the defense in on anything up until the last minute.
 
Y’all notice how all the tds sufferers are all legal scholars all of the sudden. They think it impresses folks that they take the talking points of the left and spew them endlessly while at the same time throwing shade on actual real life legal scholars. Their arrogance and pompous assault on truth is way over the top when compared to their actual comprehension! They are the very useful types the left depends on to carry their propaganda.
 
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Didn't know it was illegal to pay a pornstar $130k under an NDA. The whole thing was they tried to prove he used campaign funds to pay her the $130k......You're telling me someone worth $5Billion needed to use campaign funds to use $130k? That;s what the jury surely forgot about just like you.
Haha exactly!
 
He didn’t admit to anything! You people are making stuff up.
He most certainly answered "yes" when asked last year if he understood the charges against him.

Followed it with "not guilty" when asked how he pleaded. But he acknowledged his understanding of the charges. The record reflects that. Irrefutable fact.

My "admitting as such" is in reference to his affirmation that he understood the charges.

He didn't testify to anything (scared) but I have a feeling he would've broken lime col jessup when asked if he ordered the code red...
 
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He most certainly answered "yes" when asked last year if he understood the charges against him.

Followed it with "not guilty" when asked how he pleaded. But he acknowledged his understanding of the charges. The record reflects that. Irrefutable fact.

My "admitting as such" is in reference to his affirmation that he understood the charges.

He didn't testify to anything (scared) but I have a feeling he would've broken lime col jessup when asked if he ordered the code red...
The charges were changed at the last minute by that so called judge. The jury has a choice of charges to choose from and they didn’t have to agree to them to convict. Kangaroo court!
 
The charges were changed at the last minute by that so called judge. The jury has a choice of charges to choose from and they didn’t have to agree to them to convict. Kangaroo court!
show your work. Where did the "so called judge" change the charges at the "last minute?" That would be big news if true.

Pull the transcript and jury instructions. If you can show that I will concede the issue.
 
if we need Donald Trump to save America, I’m afraid that ship has sailed, wrecked, and sunk to the bottom of the ocean.

The Republicans had this election handed to them on a silver platter but let a personality cult overrun the party and forgot the first rule of holes. When you find yourself in one, stop digging. You ever consider the only reason he won last time is because of Anybody But Hillary. That’s how O’Bama got the nomination.

After Biden wins maybe the party will come to its senses and purge these MAGA zealots from the party and actually put up a candidate that we don’t have to hold our nose to vote for.

You MAGA assholes did this to yourselves.
 
Y’all notice how all the tds sufferers are all legal scholars all of the sudden. They think it impresses folks that they take the talking points of the left and spew them endlessly while at the same time throwing shade on actual real life legal scholars. Their arrogance and pompous assault on truth is way over the top when compared to their actual comprehension! They are the very useful types the left depends on to carry their propaganda.
...and these are all the same people you have to step over on the sidewalk in liberal big cities and try to avoid the syringes and empty whiskey bottles while you are on the way to actually work an actual job!
 
why didn't trump get on the stand and defend himself? he could have but chose not to.
not taking a side, but just seems strange to me that he didn't.
Do you watch any crime shows? Legit documentaries or even tv shows. Defendants are always told by their lawyer to not take the stand. Unless they are desperate. I think in this case he knew it was a loss. He didn’t even react in court. He just wanted to get it over with. It doesn’t take a Mensa rep to see how high the deck was stacked against him here. Every aspect of this case was a setup to win. They had to win. Biden is asking to debate now. Why? Because he feels like he is behind. Trump is willing to debate him anywhere, but Biden made all the rules. Picked the networks. Set the rules for how they would take place. Come on Mitchell. You already know the answer to this. This trial like the other New York trial was over before it started. Even lawyers that hate Trump as much as you do are calling a spade a spade.
 
Do you watch any crime shows? Legit documentaries or even tv shows. Defendants are always told by their lawyer to not take the stand. Unless they are desperate. I think in this case he knew it was a loss. He didn’t even react in court. He just wanted to get it over with. It doesn’t take a Mensa rep to see how high the deck was stacked against him here. Every aspect of this case was a setup to win. They had to win. Biden is asking to debate now. Why? Because he feels like he is behind. Trump is willing to debate him anywhere, but Biden made all the rules. Picked the networks. Set the rules for how they would take place. Come on Mitchell. You already know the answer to this. This trial like the other New York trial was over before it started. Even lawyers that hate Trump as much as you do are calling a spade a spade.
No Zing, I don't know the answer.
Not going round and round with you either. You sound more cultish everyday.
If I was innocent, I would take the stand and no one could tell me differently, but that's just me.
Compared to the other cases against Trump, I thought (and still think), it was the least significant.
Bottom line though, a jury heard the evidence and THEY found him guilty, not the attorneys, judge, Biden....the jury did.
In America those decisions (and elections), are the backbone of our democracy. You can't only accept the outcomes when your "side" wins. If the decision is overturned on appeal, then great. That's how the system is supposed to work.
I didn't agree with the OJ verdict, but it stood.
Just look around the people Trump has been associated with that are felons themselves. It really should be no surprise.
Oh yeah, before the "what about" isms, Biden sux.
 
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No Zing, I don't know the answer.
Not going round and round with you either. You sound more cultish everyday.
If I was innocent, I would take the stand and no one could tell me differently, but that's just me.
Compared to the other cases against Trump, I thought (and still think), it was the least significant.
Bottom line though, a jury heard the evidence and THEY found him guilty, not the attorneys, judge, Biden....the jury did.
In America those decisions (and elections), are the backbone of our democracy. You can't only accept the outcomes when your "side" wins.
I didn't agree with the OJ verdict, but it stood.
Just look around the people Trump has been associated with that are felons themselves. It really should be no surprise.
Oh yeah, before the "what about" isms, Biden sux.
This isn’t a what about ism. Mitchell I am not going after you either. Not going round and round either. I call a spade a spade. Or at least I try to. I have said what I don’t like about the don plenty of times. I have also said there is one case they likely have him on something real. That is the doc case.

This isn’t real. Neither is the real estate case. He may have had a hard time dodging fani’s case but she melted that one away.

Every real estate agent or home owner nearly ever thinks their place is worth more than it is. I was a real estate agent years ago. It is up to the bank to determine whether to loan the money by appraisal. See if he is telling the truth. The loan was paid back on time. No prosecution like that has ever happened in New York.

Same with this trial. This case was unheard of. I just believe if we are going to try the president and it is going to be a new thing, it shouldn’t be a case where a judge with conflicts of interest was handpicked out of a pool of many others without a coi. Lawyers all over the place are picking it apart from jury instruction to behavior in the courtroom and rulings. I don’t think I am being cultish by questioning an unprecedented moment which will open Pandora’s box. If you are defending it without opening your eyes to the other side too, you are being worse than cultish.

It is very common for a defendant to be told not to testify. Usually if they do testify, it is for a reason. Desperation is usually one. Not heard one lawyer come in and tell me I am crazy. I have watched a million crime shows that puppet that same line. This is almost over. These two can only effect things for four more years. In the meantime, let’s see if Joe will continue to clean up his own messes. That is a good start.

This case was a stacked deck. The appeal won’t come till after the election. Now they can run ads everywhere calling him a felon. Even Will admits Dems likely paid stormy to come forward. It put Trump in between a rock and a hard place. The mess was being involved in any way with stormy daniels. Meeting on a show oR wherever. He has himself to blame, but the setup is still a setup. And they got him for politics only. There is no real jail time usually with this. God help us if they do put him in jail. All I will say.
 
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This isn’t a what about ism. Mitchell I am not going after you either. Not going round and round either. I call a spade a spade. Or at least I try to. I have said what I don’t like about the don plenty of times. I have also said there is one case they likely have him on something real. That is the doc case.

This isn’t real. Neither is the real estate case. He may have had a hard time dodging fani’s case but she melted that one away.

Every real estate agent or home owner nearly ever thinks their place is worth more than it is. I was a real estate agent years ago. It is up to the bank to determine whether to loan the money by appraisal. See if he is telling the truth. The loan was paid back on time. No prosecution like that has ever happened in New York.

Same with this trial. This case was unheard of. I just believe if we are going to try the president and it is going to be a new thing, it shouldn’t be a case where a judge with conflicts of interest was handpicked out of a pool of many others without a coi. Lawyers all over the place are picking it apart from jury instruction to behavior in the courtroom and rulings. I don’t think I am being cultish by questioning an unprecedented moment which will open Pandora’s box. If you are defending it without opening your eyes to the other side too, you are being worse than cultish.

It is very common for a defendant to be told not to testify. Usually if they do testify, it is for a reason. Desperation is usually one. Not heard one lawyer come in and tell me I am crazy. I have watched a million crime shows that puppet that same line. This is almost over. These two can only effect things for four more years. In the meantime, let’s see if Joe will continue to clean up his own messes. That is a good start.

This case was a stacked deck. The appeal won’t come till after the election. Now they can run ads everywhere calling him a felon. Even Will admits Dems likely paid stormy to come forward. It put Trump in between a rock and a hard place. The mess was being involved in any way with stormy daniels. Meeting on a show oR wherever. He has himself to blame, but the setup is still a setup. And they got him for politics only. There is no real jail time usually with this. God help us if they do put him in jail. All I will say.
Oh boy! The new word for the Dems. Cultists if you disagree with their Marxis policies and support Trump. Pathetic!
 
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Oh boy! The new word for the Dems. Cultists if you disagree with their Marxis policies and support Trump. Pathetic!
Worst thing I have called Mitchell in years is an independent. TDS for us =cultist for them I guess. If I am going to use tds, have to expect to get some kid of grief in return. lol. I have said I want two new candidates so many times. Have to pick one.
 
Oh boy! The new word for the Dems. Cultists if you disagree with their Marxis policies and support Trump. Pathetic!
You have a thread of people wondering why he didn’t testify. You have a judge that gave to some kind of get rid of Trump at any cost fund. The da ran on the slogan that I will get Trump at any cost. Hard to explain why he wouldn’t sit down to answer questions with no idea where it goes. No lawyer on earth worth a damn like trump or not says yep this is a great situation to testify under.

Mitchell is right. Verdicts like this are the backbone of our country. No one has done anything to anyone involved with this case as far as I know. They accepted it would be guilty. And know why. To put your head in the sand and not acknowledge the political nature of a trial like this is worse than anything Trump will ever do. It bastardizes the legal system. If I was going after Trump or really the office of the president in this case, I would want my case to be beyond reproach. Win without a doubt where no questions could be asked. That would shut maga up. All this did was magnify the division in the country. It proved nothing but to add felon to what the msm and Biden campaign rhetoric when it comes to trump.

Trump is a showman and a liar. I am still waiting for the Dems to be different. Please. Even their ads are so far away from the truth it is comical. It is frustrating. Thanks for letting me rant ath, hope you and your family are doing well.
 
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You have a thread of people wondering why he didn’t testify. You have a judge that gave to some kind of get rid of Trump at any cost fund. The da ran on the slogan that I will get Trump at any cost. Hard to explain why he wouldn’t sit down to answer questions with no idea where it goes. No lawyer on earth worth a damn like trump or not says yep this is a great situation to testify under.

Mitchell is right. Verdicts like this are the backbone of our country. No one has done anything to anyone involved with this case as far as I know. They accepted it would be guilty. And know why. To put your head in the sand and not acknowledge the political nature of a trial like this is worse than anything Trump will ever do. It bastardizes the legal system. If I was going after Trump or really the office of the president in this case, I would want my case to be beyond reproach. Win without a doubt where no questions could be asked. That would shut maga up. All this did was magnify the division in the country. It proved nothing but to add felon to what the msm and Biden campaign rhetoric when it comes to trump.

Trump is a showman and a liar. I am still waiting for the Dems to be different. Please. Even their ads are so far away from the truth it is comical. It is frustrating. Thanks for letting me rant ath, hope you and your family are doing well.
Hope the same for you and your family brother!
 
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