At least some judges are willing to stand up to Trump and Musk.

[willdup]

Which is exactly why there should be a look the other way attitude about shit like getting rid of TDA. But the fact that Trump gets credit for it creates a tractor beam opposition. Dude could publicly ostracize the kicking of chocolate lab puppies and the left would sue to allow it. Craziest shit ever.

No, some people just don't want the potential for innocent people to suffer for political theatre.

Crazy, I know.

If this is accurate and you support it, I seriously question whether you believe in what this country is supposed to represent or not.

 

[willdup]

See...that's the problem here. Regardless or your or my or anybody else's feelings on the matter, there are absolutely reasonable explanations.

Top of my head (not defending any of these, fwiw. Just examples):

1. His actions might come from thinking the system’s unfair and wanting to fix it, not just to help himself.

2. His legal fights could show he’s trying to keep elections honest in his view, not ignoring the law for his own benefit.

3. He might be protecting POTUS power or doubting the system’s overstep, not just dodging the law for himself

The problem is that (and this is a MUCH longer philosophical discussion) every action humans take is at some level rooted in self-interest. Even "sacrifice" is fulfillment of personal principles, values, ethics, or morals.

...but, I am definitely not getting into that right now 😜😂




Really? Couldn't tell 🤣

1) Not a viable explanation. Completly recasting history and making excuses for some of the most well documented crimes in our history does nothing to “change the system”. Quite the opposite.

2) Not a viable explanation. There is no scenario where a reasonable person would believe that pardoning violent convicted felons does anything to “keep elections honest”.

3) Not a viable explanation. If you have to tell blatant lies about a politically motivated event that resulted in over 120 injured police and over 300 hundred felony convictions and you use those lies to justify a blanket pardon regardless of the offense, you aren’t “protecting POTUS power” for the benefit of the country. You are protecting it for yourself.

None of the above does anything to “change the system” beyond weakening the rule of law and rewarding political violence.

 

[DTwnDawg]

Hes also transparent in his hate for the West and the US. My gd man are you serious? This is like cheering for Satan.

It’s unbelievable ..their hate is so bad for one person, that all rationale is lost…LOL
And they defend the worst of the worst thug POS that came into this country illegally…CRAZY!

 

[ugafish]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/mar/18/judge-rules-elon-musk-usaid-case/

Basically the judge found that Musk and DOGE likely violated the Constitution when they acted to shut down USAID. Specifically, the Appointments Clause and separation of powers. Because "on paper" Musk might not have formal legal authority even if he is actually exercising significant authority of governmental matters, would be an "...end run around the Appointments Clause". Can anyone say with a straight face that Musk isn't "running" DOGE? Trump continues to make a mockery of any rules that get in his way.

Yes, there is plenty of Government waste and I hope to see real effective reform. So far I'm just seeing a legal disaster and people's lives being left in limbo. This concept of indiscriminately doing something and saying they can clean it up later is nonsense. USAID isn't the only example. I'm tired of "fear porn" and TDS as a response when one can't deal with how things are being done. I sure hope we see some improvement soon, but I'm not optimistic.

This attack on the executive is causing a constitutional crisis. Quit supporting this evil nonsense.

 

[celticdawg]

This attack on the executive is causing a constitutional crisis. Quit supporting this evil nonsense.

Your statement is nonsense. What evil nonsense are you talking about. Another person who can't respond to the issue.

It's probably more correct to say the constitutional crisis caused by Trump et al is causing the "attack" on the executive.

 

[DTwnDawg]

Your statement is nonsense. What evil nonsense are you talking about. Another person who can't respond to the issue.

It's probably more correct to say the constitutional crisis caused by Trump et al is causing the "attack" on the executive.

Damn,,,,Serious TDS to even make an accusation like that. But I would expect nothing less…poster child for your party 🤣🤣🤣

 

[Lava-Man]

It's probably more correct to say the constitutional crisis caused by Trump et al is causing the "attack" on the executive.

That makes no sense. Please expand. What constitutional crisis caused by Trump? Exercising Executive Power? That's literally the opposite of what you claim.

 

[celticdawg]

Damn,,,,Serious TDS to even make an accusation like that. But I would expect nothing less…poster child for your party 🤣🤣🤣

More nonsense just like I said. Still going on with this party shit

 

[Lava-Man]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/mar/18/judge-rules-elon-musk-usaid-case/

Basically the judge found that Musk and DOGE likely violated the Constitution when they acted to shut down USAID. Specifically, the Appointments Clause and separation of powers. Because "on paper" Musk might not have formal legal authority even if he is actually exercising significant authority of governmental matters, would be an "...end run around the Appointments Clause". Can anyone say with a straight face that Musk isn't "running" DOGE? Trump continues to make a mockery of any rules that get in his way.

Yes, there is plenty of Government waste and I hope to see real effective reform. So far I'm just seeing a legal disaster and people's lives being left in limbo. This concept of indiscriminately doing something and saying they can clean it up later is nonsense. USAID isn't the only example. I'm tired of "fear porn" and TDS as a response when one can't deal with how things are being done. I sure hope we see some improvement soon, but I'm not optimistic.

Overall bad take.

• The Appointments Clause requires Senate confirmation for significant officers.
• However, the President holds broad executive power under Article II, affirmed in Myers v. United States (1926), to direct the executive branch and delegate tasks without formal appointments for every advisor.
• If President Trump designated Musk to oversee DOGE and address USAID’s operations, Musk functions as an extension of that authority, not an independent officer requiring confirmation.
• While Congress established USAID under the Foreign Assistance Act, historical practice and precedent demonstrate that the executive can modify agency functions absent explicit statutory limits.
• The judge’s focus on Musk’s public statements and perceived influence overstates his legal role, a clear overreach that encroaches on executive discretion.

 

[celticdawg]

That makes no sense. Please expand. What constitutional crisis caused by Trump? Exercising Executive Power? That's literally the opposite of what you claim.

A little context again. He said the attack on the executive (Musk isn't exactly an executive, but that's okay) is causing a constitutional crisis. My sarcastic reply was that the opposite was closer to the truth. Not talking about Trump here. My intent wasn't to say Musk is causing a constitutional crisis, but closer to the truth in that the constitutionality of the action is in question.

 

[celticdawg]

Overall bad take.

• The Appointments Clause requires Senate confirmation for significant officers.
• However, the President holds broad executive power under Article II, affirmed in Myers v. United States (1926), to direct the executive branch and delegate tasks without formal appointments for every advisor.
• If President Trump designated Musk to oversee DOGE and address USAID’s operations, Musk functions as an extension of that authority, not an independent officer requiring confirmation.
• While Congress established USAID under the Foreign Assistance Act, historical practice and precedent demonstrate that the executive can modify agency functions absent explicit statutory limits.
• The judge’s focus on Musk’s public statements and perceived influence overstates his legal role, a clear overreach that encroaches on executive discretion.

This is for the courts to decide. I will say that it's not clear what position Musk holds.

 

[Lava-Man]

This is for the courts to decide. I will say that it's not clear what position Musk holds.

Absolutely. My comment was directed at the story you provided. I thought (not your fault) that it was less-nuanced than it could have been.

 

[Lava-Man]

A little context again. He said the attack on the executive (Musk isn't exactly an executive, but that's okay) is causing a constitutional crisis. My sarcastic reply was that the opposite was closer to the truth. Not talking about Trump here. My intent wasn't to say Musk is causing a constitutional crisis, but closer to the truth in that the constitutionality of the action is in question.

I did look, I promise! That's what I thought you were implying. From my end: I fail to see a "constitutional crisis" by a POTUS taking an action. Could it get struck down? Sure. Does he ignore the Supreme Court? THAT is when we get into the territory you're talking about, imo. Simply doing things and letting the system take its course is not a crisis. I don't think people disagreeing with what any branch does is necessarily a "crisis". That's a bit of hyperbole, imo. Our country has a long list of instances when Branches disagree. It's a feature, not a bug. Let the system play out.

Thanks for clarifying

 

[ugafish]

Your statement is nonsense. What evil nonsense are you talking about. Another person who can't respond to the issue.

It's probably more correct to say the constitutional crisis caused by Trump et al is causing the "attack" on the executive.

Just about all leftist policies are nonsense. The machine is diseased, but the left continues to defend it at all costs. The constitution is being misused and abused by the left's judicial appointees.