Trump Assassination Attempt

[Zonadog]

Exactly. Why don’t we wait till more comes out. He also gave to democrats. He has anti fascist stuff all over his social media. It is no wonder no one has come forward with an actual motive yet. It may take a minute. The kid is 20 years old. Doubt he really has a clue yet who he is politically or it changes like the wind.

Like thousands of Pennsylvanians, he could have changed his party affiliation to vote in the Republican Presidential Preference Primary to vote against Trump. In a PPP, you have to be registered with the party to vote in their primary. Its a simple matter to change or declare party affiliation on one's registration just before the Pennsylvania Primary. Since the Democrat primary in Pennsylvania was not competitive, many Democrats switched their party affiliation to vote for the opposition candidate on the Republican side, Nikki Haley.

I'm normally registered as Independent, but to vote in the Arizona PPP I had to go online to declare a party affiliation before I could vote. Still haven't changed it back. In any other primary, such as the one coming up this month for non-presidential offices, I could request a ballot for either party as a registered Independent.

 

[zingerdawg]

Have you read any part of Project 2025?
If not, Google it and read.
If so, would you care to elaborate on what you have determined as "wrong"?

Waiting ...

Project bs. More fear mongering. It will never happen. I got 100 dollars right now that he will answer questions and be less authoritarian than Biden. It is a ridiculous new fear porn deal from the left. This is what is wrong. No one wants to fix anything. They just want to make people scared of it. 🤦‍♂️

 

[pawd]

Project bs. More fear mongering. It will never happen. I got 100 dollars right now that he will answer questions and be less authoritarian than Biden. It is a ridiculous new fear porn deal from the left. This is what is wrong. No one wants to fix anything. They just want to make people scared of it. 🤦‍♂️

Well that was truly enlightening..."It will never happen".
Thanks for straightening me out...

 

[zingerdawg]

Well that was truly enlightening..."It will never happen".
Thanks for straightening me out...

I put the bet out there. Take it. Since you think this kind of crazy shit is going to happen. Has Biden done a q and a with anyone? Does he answer for his actions. Does he govern for anyone other than his constituents? No. You can’t be more of an authoritarian than he already is. The msm covers for him. You still pretending he is a fully functional human?

 

[pawd]

How does it threaten our society in a way that is worse than what the democrats have been up to?

Google and read it. Or read a "summary" of it's recommendations. They're all over the internet. It's a blueprint for an "authoritarian Presidency", referred to as a "unitary executive theory", where a President exerts absolute control over the Executive office, including the Justice Department, the FBI, the Attorney General, right down to ordering prosecutions, naming target defendants, and allowing NO independence of operation therein.

It's draconian in it's reach and power, and 140 former Trump administration advisors, appointees, staffers, etc., were deeply involved in the planning and drafting of the document.

Doubt me? Read it!

 

[kckd]

Haven’t seen any maga people or conservatives try to assinate anyone. Only the far left!

Google and read it. Or read a "summary" of it's recommendations. They're all over the internet. It's a blueprint for an "authoritarian Presidency", referred to as a "unitary executive theory", where a President exerts absolute control over the Executive office, including the Justice Department, the FBI, the Attorney General, right down to ordering prosecutions, naming target defendants, and allowing NO independence of operation therein.

It's draconian in it's reach and power, and 140 former Trump administration advisors, appointees, staffers, etc., were deeply involved in the planning and drafting of the document.

Doubt me? Read it!

This is why I say we're on two different planets and it's pointless to argue almost anything.

One side says anything Trump did regarding election denial is not a big deal because they believe the election was stolen.

The other side says there is no evidence the election was stolen. What he did was trying to stop the peaceful and rightful transfer of power and there is plenty of evidence that shows he did all of that.

But if you find a tribe in the Amazon Rain Forest that believes 2 plus 2 equals 5, you can grab four bananas and show them they are wrong. If they don't care, 2+2 = 5 in that tribe. And it just doesn't matter what the real answer is. I'm sure they feel the same way. That's why it's pointless. Give them this board to pat each other on the back and solve the world's problems.

 

[pawd]

Google and read it. Or read a "summary" of it's recommendations. They're all over the internet. It's a blueprint for an "authoritarian Presidency", referred to as a "unitary executive theory", where a President exerts absolute control over the Executive office, including the Justice Department, the FBI, the Attorney General, right down to ordering prosecutions, naming target defendants, and allowing NO independence of operation therein.

It's draconian in it's reach and power, and 140 former Trump administration advisors, appointees, staffers, etc., were deeply involved in the planning and drafting of the document.

Doubt me? Read it!

Read Heritage Society's Project 2025, or an easily found summary, if 900 pages is too daunting.

 

[pawd]

Woe is me.

Woe is right. The GOP plan for the reorganizing of our government is laid out in specific detail in the Heritage Society's Project 2025. It's available on the Internet, Google it. Summaries are available also.

Strong man "Unitary Executive" is the goal, Trump is the man. Authoritarian rule is the result.

 

[cherrydawg]

Made one $15.00 donation to a progressive site in 2021 when he was a junior in High School. Registered to vote as a Republican.

Voted in 1 state election. He is a dim paid money to push their agenda. You are how you act. Some that claim to be pubs on this board have bought into the hysterical lefts lies, propaganda and claims against Trump. (He is hitler, he is a threat to democracy etc etc etc). They voted for and support Biden. They helped put his dimwitted policies in place. They own it. They are as much anti America dims as barrack Hussein odumba.

No such thing as having a cake and eating it too. Elections are about policy. The policies you vote to have in place are what you are. You vote dim you are a dim. You give to groups that push dim pols and policy, you are a dim.

 

[cherrydawg]

Exactly. Why don’t we wait till more comes out. He also gave to democrats. He has anti fascist stuff all over his social media. It is no wonder no one has come forward with an actual motive yet. It may take a minute. The kid is 20 years old. Doubt he really has a clue yet who he is politically or it changes like the wind.

Plenty old enough to change gender.

 

[cherrydawg]

Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 is anything BUT a Russian hoax . Assisted by, among others, 140 former Trump administration appointees, staffers, advisors, etc., the 900 page document is a blueprint for an incoming Trump administration in reorganizing the executive branch in an authoritarian grip that confers heretofore unheard of "unitary power" in the President.

Read it and enjoy your introduction to a dystopian nightmare of White Christian Nationalist Fascist fever dreams. And yes, it threatens American democracy as we've known since the founding of the Republic.

Trump has publicly said he does not support project 2025. You are repeating a dim party lie. That’s what your party does. Lies to people so much over and over till the uninformed believe it then repeat it. You have been had by your own party. Lol at you.

BTW. The white nationalist Christian fascist crap you speak of is on par with your liberal progressive utopia. Non existent. Hysterical leftist hippie drug heads believe in either of those.

 

[cherrydawg]

Read Heritage Society's Project 2025, or an easily found summary, if 900 pages is too daunting.

So what. Trump has denounced it. You are totally uninformed on this. Let’s read some far left crap too. Your party and candidate actually support that crap. No genders, can’t tell if someone is male or female. We have to believe their science on global warming but don’t believe science on being male or female, Biden is not a vegetable, gay is normal, trans people are sane, illegals should be able to vote, the list is much longer than the 2025 list. But you keep yelling about it. Proves you don’t care about your reputation.

 

[cherrydawg]

This is why I say we're on two different planets and it's pointless to argue almost anything.

One side says anything Trump did regarding election denial is not a big deal because they believe the election was stolen.

The other side says there is no evidence the election was stolen. What he did was trying to stop the peaceful and rightful transfer of power and there is plenty of evidence that shows he did all of that.

But if you find a tribe in the Amazon Rain Forest that believes 2 plus 2 equals 5, you can grab four bananas and show them they are wrong. If they don't care, 2+2 = 5 in that tribe. And it just doesn't matter what the real answer is. I'm sure they feel the same way. That's why it's pointless. Give them this board to pat each other on the back and solve the world's problems.

He is speaking gibberish on 2025. Trump has said he does not agree with 2025 and has distended himself from the heritage foundation and that list.

You probably know this but you have ride your leftist mule too far down the road to admit the truth about anything that is positive for Trump.

That’s ok, more people recognize folks like you and pawd for the propaganda believers and spreaders for what you are. Only the other tds sufferers like you and him believe anything you preach.

 

[Zonadog]

Woe is right. The GOP plan for the reorganizing of our government is laid out in specific detail in the Heritage Society's Project 2025. It's available on the Internet, Google it. Summaries are available also.

Strong man "Unitary Executive" is the goal, Trump is the man. Authoritarian rule is the result.

Most of the summaries are pure horse shit. The others are heavily biased and disingenuous. Only Democrat fluffers think those are real (or want them to be).

It's irrelevant, anyway. The real deal is Agenda 47 and anyone, even you, can read it in minutes. Written in clear, straightforward terms. Nobody needs to read a thousand page "think tank" document that no one is using.

 

[willdup]

Most of the summaries are pure horse shit. The others are heavily biased and disingenuous. Only Democrat fluffers think those are real (or want them to be).

It's irrelevant, anyway. The real deal is Agenda 47 and anyone, even you, can read it in minutes. Written in clear, straightforward terms. Nobody needs to read a thousand page "think tank" document that no one is using.

The GOP wants to convince voters that Project 2025 is now simply some irrelevant “think tank” document instead of a detailed plan, developed over years and endorsed by over one hundred conservative organizations.

Here’s a list of some of the former Trump staffers involved in Project 2025. But sure, it’s just a meaningless think tank piece.

1. Mark Meadows - Former White House Chief of Staff.
2. Stephen Miller - Former Senior Adviser, known for his hardline immigration policies.
3. Paul Dans - Former Chief of Staff at the Office of Personnel Management, now leading Project 2025’s Presidential Transition Project.
4. Steven Groves - Former senior official at the National Security Council.
5. Other Contributors - Over 140 former Trump staffers, including six former Cabinet secretaries and four former ambassadors, have also contributed to the project.

 

[Zonadog]

The GOP wants to convince voters that Project 2025 is now simply some irrelevant “think tank” document instead of a detailed plan, developed over years and endorsed by over one hundred conservative organizations.

Here’s a list of some of the former Trump staffers involved in Project 2025. But sure, it’s just a meaningless think tank piece.

1. Mark Meadows - Former White House Chief of Staff.
2. Stephen Miller - Former Senior Adviser, known for his hardline immigration policies.
3. Paul Dans - Former Chief of Staff at the Office of Personnel Management, now leading Project 2025’s Presidential Transition Project.
4. Steven Groves - Former senior official at the National Security Council.
5. Other Contributors - Over 140 former Trump staffers, including six former Cabinet secretaries and four former ambassadors, have also contributed to the project.

You mentioned part of the problem with that book. Way too many people involved. Its a big ol' wish list. And still irrelevant, conspiracy theories notwithstanding. Since it is so long, its easy to make up stories about it because very few are likely to check out the claims.

Here's the reality check: Do you honestly believe that Donald J. Trump would let anyone else, let alone a gaggle of bureaucrats, set the goals for his administration?

Again, the actual plan is available to you and anyone else with a few minutes to read it. Clearly written and readily available on the Trump Campaign website. It's called Agenda 47. Official party platform of the RNC.

 

[kckd]

You mentioned part of the problem with that book. Way too many people involved. Its a big ol' wish list. And still irrelevant, conspiracy theories notwithstanding. Since it is so long, its easy to make up stories about it because very few are likely to check out the misrepresentations.

Again, the actual plan is available to you and anyone else with a few minutes to read it. Clearly written and readily available on the Trump Campaign website. It's called Agenda 47.

That plan's got its problems as well, but I mean it's pointless to talk about. For those of us who would be worried about that plan and its trampling on the checks and balances, we already know what Trump is capable of doing when it comes to the Constitution. You live in a different thought world altogether where the other guy was not actually elected. So, the best thing to do is just pass the potatoes and gravy and talk about sports.

 

[pawd]

Trump has publicly said he does not support project 2025. You are repeating a dim party lie. That’s what your party does. Lies to people so much over and over till the uninformed believe it then repeat it. You have been had by your own party. Lol at you.

BTW. The white nationalist Christian fascist crap you speak of is on par with your liberal progressive utopia. Non existent. Hysterical leftist hippie drug heads believe in either of those.

Yes, Trump has said he disagrees with "some" of Project 2025 recommendations, immediately after protesting, "I've never heard of it"...? ? ?

Same old Trump, if his lips are moving.....😂

 

[doerunn]

That plan's got its problems as well, but I mean it's pointless to talk about. For those of us who would be worried about that plan and its trampling on the checks and balances, we already know what Trump is capable of doing when it comes to the Constitution. You live in a different thought world altogether where the other guy was not actually elected. So, the best thing to do is just pass the potatoes and gravy and talk about sports.

what did he do to the constitution?

 

[pawd]

Trump has publicly said he does not support project 2025. You are repeating a dim party lie. That’s what your party does. Lies to people so much over and over till the uninformed believe it then repeat it. You have been had by your own party. Lol at you.

BTW. The white nationalist Christian fascist crap you speak of is on par with your liberal progressive utopia. Non existent. Hysterical leftist hippie drug heads believe in either of those.

Thou protest too much, methinks...

The project, carefully drawn up over a period of several years by leading Conservative "thinkers", including over 140 former Trump administration cabinet members, staffers, appointees, advisors lays the groundwork for an incoming Trump administration to enact a "Unitary Executive theory", i.e., an Authoritative Presidency with power previously unknown in American history.

 

[pawd]

Thou protest too much, methinks...

The project, carefully drawn up over a period of several years by leading Conservative "thinkers", including over 140 former Trump administration cabinet members, staffers, appointees, advisors lays the groundwork for an incoming Trump administration to enact a "Unitary Executive theory", i.e., an Authoritative Presidency with power previously unknown in American history.

Coincidence...? OCCAM'S RAZOR says probably not. "Of two opposing answers to a question, the simplest explanation is probably correct".

 

[ugafish]

Google and read it. Or read a "summary" of it's recommendations. They're all over the internet. It's a blueprint for an "authoritarian Presidency", referred to as a "unitary executive theory", where a President exerts absolute control over the Executive office, including the Justice Department, the FBI, the Attorney General, right down to ordering prosecutions, naming target defendants, and allowing NO independence of operation therein.

It's draconian in it's reach and power, and 140 former Trump administration advisors, appointees, staffers, etc., were deeply involved in the planning and drafting of the document.

Doubt me? Read it!

If all of that is true, how any of that is worse than the lefts current version authoritarian?

This includes ordering prosecution attacking political rivals, liberal MSM propaganda, anti-white racism, gender nonsense, soft on crime DA, and an open border? It ain’t close to as bad as what we currently have.

 

[kckd]

what did he do to the constitution?

No point. Hope things are going well for you over there.

 

[ToddBburn]

That plan's got its problems as well, but I mean it's pointless to talk about. For those of us who would be worried about that plan and its trampling on the checks and balances, we already know what Trump is capable of doing when it comes to the Constitution. You live in a different thought world altogether where the other guy was not actually elected. So, the best thing to do is just pass the potatoes and gravy and talk about sports.

Trampling on checks and balances?
Lets hear how you come to that conclusion.
Speaking about authoritarian actions.
What about?
11/5/2021?
7/28/2021

 

[doerunn]

Thou protest too much, methinks...

The project, carefully drawn up over a period of several years by leading Conservative "thinkers", including over 140 former Trump administration cabinet members, staffers, appointees, advisors lays the groundwork for an incoming Trump administration to enact a "Unitary Executive theory", i.e., an Authoritative Presidency with power previously unknown in American history.

like what your side publishes and tries to implement.

 

[willdup]

You mentioned part of the problem with that book. Way too many people involved. Its a big ol' wish list. And still irrelevant, conspiracy theories notwithstanding. Since it is so long, its easy to make up stories about it because very few are likely to check out the claims.

Here's the reality check: Do you honestly believe that Donald J. Trump would let anyone else, let alone a gaggle of bureaucrats, set the goals for his administration?

Again, the actual plan is available to you and anyone else with a few minutes to read it. Clearly written and readily available on the Trump Campaign website. It's called Agenda 47. Official party platform of the RNC.

It's not a gaggle of bureaucrats, it's a who's-who of the right, including a number of former Trump senior staffers. And yes, I think the idea of firing tens of thousands of civil servants and replacing them with people who pass the ideological loyalty test is exactly what Trump himself has in mind for round two.

Do you think Trump really cared about overturning Roe? I don't. Yet he let the Heritage Foundation drive the nomination process for all three Judges Trump placed on the SCOTUS and, surprise, all three came through as expected.

Here is the application page for those interested in replacing the many non-partisan civil servants with loyalists.

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www.project2025.org

 

[Zonadog]

It's not a gaggle of bureaucrats, it's a who's-who of the right, including a number of former Trump senior staffers. And yes, I think the idea of firing tens of thousands of civil servants and replacing them with people who pass the ideological loyalty test is exactly what Trump himself has in mind for round two.

Do you think Trump really cared about overturning Roe? I don't. Yet he let the Heritage Foundation drive the nomination process for all three Judges Trump placed on the SCOTUS and, surprise, all three came through as expected.

Here is the application page for those interested in replacing the many non-partisan civil servants with loyalists.

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www.project2025.org

Since you mentioned Roe, here's a side bit for you. Ruth Bader Ginsburg also thought Roe was deeply flawed and needed to be replaced. The actual case was about the physician's right to privacy, not women's rights. Congress had decades to address it, but never did.

I checked your link, and despite the wishes of some detractors, the Heritage Foundation is not the HR wing of the Republican party. They plan to make referrals, as outside groups often do, but they aren't in charge of staffing the administrative branch and never were.

Do the ADL and DSA determine policy for the DNC? They certainly make demands. Is it fair to say that those demands are the policy of the Biden administration?

Your left wing sources try like hell to confuse and conflate the Heritage Foundation work with the actual plan. It is certainly much easier for fear mongering purposes to misrepresent, misquote and find potential issues with a 900+ page diatribe that 99.99% will never read.

Still comes down to this. The Trump agenda is called Agenda 47. It's found on the Trump Campaign website (not the Biden fake that's designed to look like the Trump site). Agenda 47 is the officially adopted platform of the Republican Party.

 

[kckd]

Trampling on checks and balances?
Lets hear how you come to that conclusion.
Speaking about authoritarian actions.
What about?
11/5/2021?
7/28/2021

Ye old "what about".

 

[jlstone412]

Can we please change this thread title? This is part of the problem we are currently experiencing.

 

[ToddBburn]

This is why I say we're on two different planets and it's pointless to argue almost anything.

One side says anything Trump did regarding election denial is not a big deal because they believe the election was stolen.

The other side says there is no evidence the election was stolen. What he did was trying to stop the peaceful and rightful transfer of power and there is plenty of evidence that shows he did all of that.

But if you find a tribe in the Amazon Rain Forest that believes 2 plus 2 equals 5, you can grab four bananas and show them they are wrong. If they don't care, 2+2 = 5 in that tribe. And it just doesn't matter what the real answer is. I'm sure they feel the same way. That's why it's pointless. Give them this board to pat each other on the back and solve the world's problems.

Painting with brush. I think it was not stolen but enough went on that there should be a push to make election reform.
He was wrong. There were enough issues that I understand the concern. It was not stolen but there were enough law changes and dramatic changes that caused concern.

 

[kckd]

Painting with brush. I think it was not stolen but enough went on that there should be a push to make election reform.
He was wrong. There were enough issues that I understand the concern. It was not stolen but there were enough law changes and dramatic changes that caused concern.

Why do we do this? What do you get out of it? We know before we even engage. Have a good one.

 

[cherrydawg]

Thou protest too much, methinks...

The project, carefully drawn up over a period of several years by leading Conservative "thinkers", including over 140 former Trump administration cabinet members, staffers, appointees, advisors lays the groundwork for an incoming Trump administration to enact a "Unitary Executive theory", i.e., an Authoritative Presidency with power previously unknown in American history.

You are a good little democrat. Lmbo.

 

[cherrydawg]

Why do we do this? What do you get out of it? We know before we even engage. Have a good one.

Typical. Why do you insist on being wrong?

 

[ToddBburn]

Why do we do this? What do you get out of it? We know before we even engage. Have a good one.

So you think voter integrity and safety does not matter. Taking steps to eliminate the people’s concerns and distrust is not worth the effort?
I hope you have a good one as well.
I enjoy the ability to debate and learn. We learn more from the respectfully sharing opinions and idea. It helps to understand where the other person is coming from to truly understand their opinion. Most people will not engage and will deflect or take to personal attacks. I honestly am trying to do that and if I came across differently I apologize.

 

[SLC_Dawg]

Woe is right. The GOP plan for the reorganizing of our government is laid out in specific detail in the Heritage Society's Project 2025. It's available on the Internet, Google it. Summaries are available also.

Strong man "Unitary Executive" is the goal, Trump is the man. Authoritarian rule is the result.

That’s rich, my man. Rich.

 

[kckd]

So you think voter integrity and safety does not matter. Taking steps to eliminate the people’s concerns and distrust is not worth the effort?
I hope you have a good one as well.
I enjoy the ability to debate and learn. We learn more from the respectfully sharing opinions and idea. It helps to understand where the other person is coming from to truly understand their opinion. Most people will not engage and will deflect or take to personal attacks. I honestly am trying to do that and if I came across differently I apologize.

I think almost everyone is too far apart from the start. Whether we need to do things to eliminate concerns or not, the multiple ways Trump tried to stop the transfer of power should be enough to stop him from being in the office again. As I've said in other posts, that's the problem here. We start at very different places. Just hard for me to understand how those things can be so easily excused. Unless you of course believe the election was actually stolen. And then we're at such opposite poles there is no way to discuss it. You don't come across differently. I hope I didn't come across as being argumentative. Just burnt out.

 

[ToddBburn]

I think almost everyone is too far apart from the start. Whether we need to do things to eliminate concerns or not, the multiple ways Trump tried to stop the transfer of power should be enough to stop him from being in the office again. As I've said in other posts, that's the problem here. We start at very different places. Just hard for me to understand how those things can be so easily excused. Unless you of course believe the election was actually stolen. And then we're at such opposite poles there is no way to discuss it. You don't come across differently. I hope I didn't come across as being argumentative. Just burnt out.

No I do not think it was stolen. I think there were irregularities and changes that were made that created confusion and a lack of clarity at times. Depending on your view of things I can see how both sides have come to there stance. I think the answer is in the middle and neither are willing to budge.

I think things Biden has done are very concerning and very destructive and yet the left does not acknowledge them or minimizes them.

Too far apart is not true. I think people are unwilling to acknowledge where they are wrong. We are all wrong at times and hopefully right at times. The sharing of opinions and ideas and helping each achieve the common good is what matters. To get to that everyone needs to ignore the media(both sides) and focus on what is most important.

 

[Moosefish]

Can we please change this thread title? This is part of the problem we are currently experiencing.

There's a much easier way to request this than making a single post in the thread. Please use the report function. I've edited the title, to assuage those that have mentioned it.

Thanks.

 

[brimur]

So what. Trump has denounced it. You are totally uninformed on this. Let’s read some far left crap too. Your party and candidate actually support that crap. No genders, can’t tell if someone is male or female. We have to believe their science on global warming but don’t believe science on being male or female, Biden is not a vegetable, gay is normal, trans people are sane, illegals should be able to vote, the list is much longer than the 2025 list. But you keep yelling about it. Proves you don’t care about your reputation.

What’s hilarious about people believing Trump when he disavows Project 2025 is that his Agenda 47 is virtually identical to Project 2025. Shows you guys dont even know what he is going to do.

 

[jlstone412]

There's a much easier way to request this than making a single post in the thread. Please use the report function. I've edited the title, to assuage those that have mentioned it.

Thanks.

Will do in future. Appreciate it.