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Spot on! Education is another big one, kids are graduating that can not read, but more of our money will fix that as well. I love seeing Educator car tags on BMW's and the like. Always wanted to reply to the" If you can read this thank a teacher", what if your student can't read that sticker?
We stand 2nd in money spent per student, and 28th in results, worldwide. We no longer use flash cards, or memorization, or anything that's been proven to teach required skills. History class has turned into a lesson in how bad our country is. Our educational system is a joke.
 
You can blame the teaching/learning aspect on your boy Bush. No child left behind is a joke. Ask any teacher. It's almost impossible for teachers to do their jobs now because crappy parents don't take responsibility and make their kids study and not be respectful to teachers while they are in class. Time people take responsibility for their kids instead of blaming others. Sickens me.
 
You can blame the teaching/learning aspect on your boy Bush. No child left behind is a joke. Ask any teacher. It's almost impossible for teachers to do their jobs now because crappy parents don't take responsibility and make their kids study and not be respectful to teachers while they are in class. Time people take responsibility for their kids instead of blaming others. Sickens me.
It started long before Bush, remember I stated that I thought he (George W Bush) was way to liberal and education was one of those topics. We agree on that. I agree as well on the parents. Most of the problems in the US today are because people can not take personal responsibility for their action or lack of action. When you see a system failing and continue to pour more money into the same system that is insane.
 
You can blame the teaching/learning aspect on your boy Bush. No child left behind is a joke. Ask any teacher. It's almost impossible for teachers to do their jobs now because crappy parents don't take responsibility and make their kids study and not be respectful to teachers while they are in class. Time people take responsibility for their kids instead of blaming others. Sickens me.
It started long before Bush. Remember I stated that I thought he (George W Bush) was way to liberal and education was one of those topics. I also agree that the parents need to take more personal responsibility with their children. Many problems we have in the US are due to lack of personal responsibility for their actions or lack of action. We agree on these things.
 
You can blame the teaching/learning aspect on your boy Bush. No child left behind is a joke. Ask any teacher. It's almost impossible for teachers to do their jobs now because crappy parents don't take responsibility and make their kids study and not be respectful to teachers while they are in class. Time people take responsibility for their kids instead of blaming others. Sickens me.
Yeah, because this all started in 2001. This has been coming for years, Sparky. It really started to go off the tracks when your boy, Jimmy formed the US Dept of Education.
 
It started long before Bush. Remember I stated that I thought he (George W Bush) was way to liberal and education was one of those topics. I also agree that the parents need to take more personal responsibility with their children. Many problems we have in the US are due to lack of personal responsibility for their actions or lack of action. We agree on these things.
Personal responsibility for others? Are you cracked ?
 
Yeah, because this all started in 2001. This has been coming for years, Sparky. It really started to go off the tracks when your boy, Jimmy formed the US Dept of Education.
There is nothing wrong with having a dept of education you idiot. No child left behind basically is like giving a 17th place ribbon at a swim meet. Bush basically set up the pussification of America.
 
How old are you Drew? You kinda sound like you've won a few of those 17th place ribbons. Gradulations. In your mind, you truly are special.
 
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There is nothing wrong with having a dept of education you idiot. No child left behind basically is like giving a 17th place ribbon at a swim meet. Bush basically set up the pussification of America.
Did you hear me say that NCLB is a good thing? Why, no you didn't. As to a Federal Dept of Education, show me where it's called for in the US Constitution (it's that silly 17 page document under glass, it starts with "We the People"). There are 18 Enumerated Powers. Past that, I'm really not interested. Education should be a matter handled by the Several states. But thanks for your opinion, Clownboy. Now, go back upstairs. Mommy says its your bedtime.
 
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There is nothing wrong with having a dept of education you idiot. No child left behind basically is like giving a 17th place ribbon at a swim meet. Bush basically set up the pussification of America.

Yea the Dept of Edu has really worked out for us...We keep slipping further and further down the list of educated Countries. Look snot nose. Gov down anything doesn't work. Lord could you possibly get your mom to read the Constitution and BOR's to you
 
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Just like I stated personal responsibility for oneself and their family. Outside that it would be government control, like the nanny state we have now.
The constitution is a great piece of literature. However stupid people like you choose to manipulate it to read however you want. And that might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen that no law past the constitution is worthy. You sir are an embarrassment to this country.
 
The constitution is a great piece of literature. However stupid people like you choose to manipulate it to read however you want. And that might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen that no law past the constitution is worthy. You sir are an embarrassment to this country.
Sorry Sept. That wasn't aimed at you.
 
Don't have one anymore, besides that, ppl pay me for that kinda info

They pay you to hear about your old racing days ?! Fvcking Dick Petty right here ! I'll give you five bucks for a story . You have pay pal ?
 
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How do you figure that? And before you say, "Bush lied and kids died", every intelligence service on the globe said there were WMD, and we found ample evidence when we went in. On the other hand, WMD was #5 on his list of reasons to enter Iraq. What else would you like to discuss that rises to the level of the Benghazi cover up, the destroyed e-mails, the Rose billing records, Travelgate, the politics of personal destruction, the Foundation donations for favors scandals, etc, etc, etc. Was GWB a great President? No. Did he do his best to do the right thing? Absolutely. Same with his Dad.

holy potatoe
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Thread delivers
 
Don't have one anymore, besides that, ppl pay me for that kinda info

Sorry Pal, my stories are my own, sorry you don't have any of your own...Its not about the stories, its about the experience...Its too complicated for someone like you to understand.
 
Sorry Pal, my stories are my own, sorry you don't have any of your own...Its not about the stories, its about the experience...Its too complicated for someone like you to understand.

So ..... no pay pal?
 
Sorry Sept. That wasn't aimed at you.
I assume you're addressing this to me. The Constitution is quite clear in it's meaning. There is no room for interpretation. Follow it, and everything else works pretty well. Deviate, and you get what we've got. I'll say it again: There are 18 enumerated Powers that are to be carried out by the Federal Government. EVERYTHING ELSE falls under the purview of the States. What part of that is so difficult to understand?
 
This was one great thread. Very funny to see a couple of libtards get owned. Ideology and agenda over common sense, the Constitution and socialism. The libtard way.
These discussions go about the way you'd expect. One side uses reason and facts. The other uses feelings and talking points from the Huffington Post and Slate.
 
Two more mental pygmies. Now Jett, did you mean to have socialism on the same side of the ledger as common sense and the Constitution or was that just a result of poorly developed language skills?
 
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Does it matter that the Clintons are not to be trusted and only matter that she be elected?
Just checking cause I don't know.
I trust her and I will vote for her. The Cubans don't like Rubio, Cruse uses the Affordable Health Care after railing against it, and Bush is another Bush. I have given thought to vote for a democrat coming out lockup before voting for a republican. The only difference between the two is one got caught and the other one did not.
 
I'm just amazed that someone could arrive at their conclusions. What they all seem to want has been tried countless times and has resulted, in each case, in death, destruction, and misery. Who is teaching this crap in our schools?


Because for them, history starts today......everyday. They ignore their past destructions
 
Because for them, history starts today......everyday. They ignore their past destructions
They refer to Joseph Stalin, who was an absolute butcher (Holomodor, anyone, where he starved an entire region and killed 2 million of his own people?) as Uncle Joe, as if he was a kindly old grandfather. Mao Se Teng killed 10s of millions during the "cultural revolution". Pol Pot? Ever seen a movie called "The Killing Fields"? But they continue to strive to build a worker's paradise. The funny thing is that none of them would be part of the ruling elite. They'd be standing in line for bread and gritty toilet paper with the rest of us.
 
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Stalin? Pol Pot? Seriously, you're comparing supporters of the POTUS, the Clintons, and expanded health care to...history's butchers!? Whatever shred of credibility you were clinging to is now a memory.
 
Stalin? Pol Pot? Seriously, you're comparing supporters of the POTUS, the Clintons, and expanded health care to...history's butchers!? Whatever shred of credibility you were clinging to is now a memory.

Their ideas are the same. Given the opportunity I have no doubt they would be just as big a murdering butcher as any mentioned above. They are truly evil ppl. They know their ideas destroy lives, but they depend on those lives being destroyed so they can stay in power. Liberals need dependent ppl. Do you really think they care about lifing ppl out of poverty? Really? LOL c'mon man
 
Their ideas are the same. Given the opportunity I have no doubt they would be just as big a murdering butcher as any mentioned above. They are truly evil ppl. They know their ideas destroy lives, but they depend on those lives being destroyed so they can stay in power. Liberals need dependent ppl. Do you really think they care about lifing ppl out of poverty? Really? LOL c'mon man
Notice that they talk a great game about the poor, but they all live in gated communities as FAR away from bad neighborhoods as they can get. When I was in high school and college, I drove a truck and delivered building materials. My partners were mostly black, sometimes ex-cons, or on work release. I know a lot more about how the poor act and think than the liberal elite. Have any of them ever been to a housing project without bodyguards? Of course not. I have. The left consider the poor useful idiots.....hmmmmm, who came up with that phrase? Wasn't it VI Lenin? It's sad, really, that nobody on either side of the aisle has been able to harness the energy of the dependent class to pull themselves up and to be sucessful. One side doesn't know how, and the other side doesn't want to.
 
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