Gavin Newsome possible presidential candidate?

[Pine_Tree1]

If he runs in the 24 election replacing Biden due to death, illness, or replacement, IMO he beats Trump or Desantis.

Good looking, young, smoothe, very questionable moral compass, will say or do whatever necessary to succeed. Dems, many independents and even Republicans will vote for him over Trump. He will get the full loyalty support of the establishment Washington as well as media protection. Imagine all the protections Biden got during the 2020 election season but Gavin will actually get out and debate and not hide from his age

Biden inspires no one but Gavin will inspire a lot of people

 

[stray]

If he runs in the 24 election replacing Biden due to death, illness, or replacement, IMO he beats Trump or Desantis.

Good looking, young, smoothe, very questionable moral compass, will say or do whatever necessary to succeed. Dems, many independents and even Republicans will vote for him over Trump. He will get the full loyalty support of the establishment Washington as well as media protection. Imagine all the protections Biden got during the 2020 election season but Gavin will actually get out and debate and not hide from his age

Biden inspires no one but Gavin will inspire a lot of people

He is certainly a slick political and could make a serious run. But Dems are overlooking how divisive that guy is. Half of CA have or is in the process of moving away from him. He is struggling in the state he was built for. He has some serious issues if he tries to run nationwide. Most recent polls in CA show 70% of California voters don't want him to run for President.

 

[Dirty Hairy Dawg]

He is certainly a slick political and could make a serious run. But Dems are overlooking how divisive that guy is. Half of CA have or is in the process of moving away from him. He is struggling in the state he was built for. He has some serious issues if he tries to run nationwide. Most recent polls in CA show 70% of California voters don't want him to run for President.

Women will love him. We live in a country that spends about 60K per yr per tax payer and we still elected a doddering old fool that has exhibited about every single political sin over the course of his career. Any empty suit that looks good, says the right things and is in good graces with the DC club will be a very serious candidate.

 

[Pine_Tree1]

He is certainly a slick political and could make a serious run. But Dems are overlooking how divisive that guy is. Half of CA have or is in the process of moving away from him. He is struggling in the state he was built for. He has some serious issues if he tries to run nationwide. Most recent polls in CA show 70% of California voters don't want him to run for President.

Most of the country doesn't even know who he is or how divisive he is. The media will make him look him great. Heck they made Biden seem like a nice family man repping the middle class saving America from mean nasty evil Donald Trump

My mother in law swears he has a lifelong stutter which is not true (he stammers because his mind is dying)...because the nightly Cleveland News told her. Most people believe whatever the local news tells them

 

[Pine_Tree1]

Women will love him. We live in a country that spends about 60K per yr per tax payer and we still elected a doddering old fool that has exhibited about every single political sin over the course of his career. Any empty suit that looks good, says the right things and is in good graces with the DC club will be a very serious candidate.

This. He will appeal to women (specifically suburban middle class women), moderates who can't vote for Trump, and young 18-28 year olds

 

[stray]

This. He will appeal to women (specifically suburban middle class women), moderates who can't vote for Trump, and young 18-28 year olds

I don't doubt that, my mother in law only voted for Clinton because she thought he was attractive. But, Newsom looks and sounds like the typical used car salesman without the sans-a-belt slacks and ugly tie. But he may be an even more talented liar than slick Willy.

 

[Pine_Tree1]

I don't doubt that, my mother in law only voted for Clinton because she thought he was attractive. But, Newsom looks and sounds like the typical used car salesman without the sans-a-belt slacks and ugly tie. But he may be an even more talented liar than slick Willy.

You will be amazed at the raw broad appeal Newsome has once he's pushed into the spotlight and propped up by the DNC and MSM.

The sins of his CA term will be washed away from public view.

 

[PotimusWillie]

If he runs in the 24 election replacing Biden due to death, illness, or replacement, IMO he beats Trump or Desantis.

Good looking, young, smoothe, very questionable moral compass, will say or do whatever necessary to succeed. Dems, many independents and even Republicans will vote for him over Trump. He will get the full loyalty support of the establishment Washington as well as media protection. Imagine all the protections Biden got during the 2020 election season but Gavin will actually get out and debate and not hide from his age

Biden inspires no one but Gavin will inspire a lot of people

You have got to be kidding. He is running the small country of California into the ground.

What could possibly convince a Repub to vote for a socialist?

I will ask the question again.

What have the Dems done that affects our families?
What did Trump do that affects our families?

 

[oldmandawg]

Gavin Newsom is the perfect dim candidate. Stupid as a brick, but a good looking slick liar that suburban wimmen will love. The media will sing his praises daily and he will be vaulted above their beloved Slick Willie and Barack hisself. And besides that, dims know how to cheat.

 

[Pine_Tree1]

You have got to be kidding. He is running the small country of California into the ground.

What could possibly convince a Repub to vote for a socialist?

I will ask the question again.

What have the Dems done that affects our families?
What did Trump do that affects our families?

Never Trumpers will vote for anything before Trump even if registered Republicans.

Many believe Orange Man is truly bad and will never get beyond that

 

[Pine_Tree1]

Gavin Newsom is the perfect dim candidate. Stupid as a brick, but a good looking slick liar that suburban wimmen will love. The media will sing his praises daily and he will be vaulted above their beloved Slick Willie and Barack hisself. And besides that, dims know how to cheat.

This. And if he has a likable female or POC as his running mate (not Kamala-notice I said likable), he would beat Trump imo. Charisma less Desantis would have no shot

 

[stray]

This. He will appeal to women (specifically suburban middle class women), moderates who can't vote for Trump, and young 18-28 year olds

 

[PotimusWillie]

Never Trumpers will vote for anything before Trump even if registered Republicans.

Many believe Orange Man is truly bad and will never get beyond that

Fair enough. So what did he do to you and me that made him bad?

That seems to be the question no one can or will answer.

 

[Pine_Tree1]

Fair enough. So what did he do to you and me that made him bad?

That seems to be the question no one can or will answer.

it doesn't matter what he did or didn't do. the media apparatus along with military industrial complex and democratic party and some republicans made the American believe he colluded with Russia, withheld foreign aid from Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden, is a Russian asset, raped a woman, is the evilest of capitalist billionaires, is a self-centered narcissit (probably true) that only cares about his own gain (I don't believe this) who is a xenophobe, transphobe, homophobe, racist and is supported by racists and nazis.

it doesn't matter what is true, it matters what American voters believe is true

 

[Pine_Tree1]

@PotimusWillie
if a majority of the country believes a lie, then it may as well be true. the results will be the same

especially when there are dozens and dozens of lies perpetuated for years by countless media and government people that paint Trump to be a terrible person. And it doesn't help that he embellishes a lot of what he says so he tarnishes his own word quite often. He's a very easy target and a lot of people love shooting their arrows at him - & its tremendous for their TV ratings to do so

 

[PotimusWillie]

@PotimusWillie
if a majority of the country believes a lie, then it may as well be true. the results will be the same

especially when there are dozens and dozens of lies perpetuated for years by countless media and government people that paint Trump to be a terrible person. And it doesn't help that he embellishes a lot of what he says so he tarnishes his own word quite often. He's a very easy target and a lot of people love shooting their arrows at him - & its tremendous for their TV ratings to do so

I understand your rationale. But I do think Trump is electable. The crusade by the Dems and the media to ruin him will strengthen his support.

As stupid and dumbed down as our citizens seem to be, even the casual voter is basically saying enough is enough.

Just my opinion.

Newsom is about as counter to the average American as you could get. California does not speak for the US citizen.

We’ll see. I am just sitting back, enjoying watching the Dem’s and media pee on themselves trying to nail him.

 

[Pine_Tree1]

I understand your rationale. But I do think Trump is electable. The crusade by the Dems and the media to ruin him will strengthen his support.

As stupid and dumbed down as our citizens seem to be, even the casual voter is basically saying enough is enough.

Just my opinion.

Newsom is about as counter to the average American as you could get. California does not speak for the US citizen.

We’ll see. I am just sitting back, enjoying watching the Dem’s and media pee on themselves trying to nail him.

I hope so but once Newsome gets the full leverage of the DNC, and the mainstream media to include local city news channels carrying his water and ignoring his sins, he will become a monster I don't think Trump can beat

 

[stray]

I hope so but once Newsome gets the full leverage of the DNC, and the mainstream media to include local city news channels carrying his water and ignoring his sins, he will become a monster I don't think Trump can beat

 

[Athens is Heaven]

You will be amazed at the raw broad appeal Newsome has once he's pushed into the spotlight and propped up by the DNC and MSM.

The sins of his CA term will be washed away from public view.

Lord how’s people so ignorant and stupid.

 

[KidneyStoned]

If he runs in the 24 election replacing Biden due to death, illness, or replacement, IMO he beats Trump or Desantis.

Good looking, young, smoothe, very questionable moral compass, will say or do whatever necessary to succeed. Dems, many independents and even Republicans will vote for him over Trump. He will get the full loyalty support of the establishment Washington as well as media protection. Imagine all the protections Biden got during the 2020 election season but Gavin will actually get out and debate and not hide from his age

Biden inspires no one but Gavin will inspire a lot of people

Yep … would love for it to be Newsome v Desantis. No matter who won, the country would be better off than electing Biden or Trump. Nobody wins if we have to choose between a has-been or a never was.

 

[zingerdawg]

Yep … would love for it to be Newsome v Desantis. No matter who won, the country would be better off than electing Biden or Trump. Nobody wins if we have to choose between a has-been or a never was.

I agree with you there. I don’t know how someone could disagree with this. As scary as newsome is for me, and desantis is for the left, it is still miles better than the alternative imo.

 

[KidneyStoned]

I agree with you there. I don’t know how someone could disagree with this. As scary as newsome is for me, and desantis is for the left, it is still miles better than the alternative imo.

Exactly. Never mistake my disgust with DT as support for Biden. They both suck in their own way. Our nation deserves better.

 

[BigPapaDawg]

How DNC didn't tell Jill Biden to tell Joe to retire and not run, maybe they did. He's too old, Trump is old. We need you get even if DeSantis.

 

[Zonadog]

Lord how’s people so ignorant and stupid.

They're everywhere. Walking around like regular people. They don't see each other. They only see what they want to see. They don't know they're dead.

 

[Zonadog]

How DNC didn't tell Jill Biden to tell Joe to retire and not run, maybe they did. He's too old, Trump is old. We need you get even if DeSantis.

No, he is exactly what they want. He's a figurehead that does what he's told and given money. That's why you have Fetterman, Pelosi, Feinstein, Harris and others less obvious. Vote the company line. Read the company script. Get your money and get re-elected.

 

[TravelDawg04]

Said it from day one.

He’s been traveling and advertising in the south. He’s made number of trips to the White House (with or without Biden in town) to talk to democrat leaders.

I think they will use this hunter Biden and china mess to move joe down the road and push Gavin Newsome. Perfect used car salesman.

If he’s elected President and does half the stuff he’s done in California. God help us.

 

[TravelDawg04]

No, he is exactly what they want. He's a figurehead that does what he's told and given money. That's why you have Fetterman, Pelosi, Feinstein, Harris and others less obvious. Vote the company line. Read the company script.

Even thou I agree with. Biden is a loose cannon. Anyone with a brain can see he’s not well at all. Don’t know what he’ll say or do. If they can get a guy like Newsome in office and pull the stings. They’ll drop Biden in a heartbeat.

I think you see it already because certain media outlets are asking/reporting on all this hunter biden/china/business & etc all of a sudden.

 

[Georgia Jim]

He is certainly a slick political and could make a serious run. But Dems are overlooking how divisive that guy is. Half of CA have or is in the process of moving away from him. He is struggling in the state he was built for. He has some serious issues if he tries to run nationwide. Most recent polls in CA show 70% of California voters don't want him to run for President.

Yep...his own state tried to recall vote him.....even the Cali loons turned on him

 

[Athens is Heaven]

No, he is exactly what they want. He's a figurehead that does what he's told and given money. That's why you have Fetterman, Pelosi, Feinstein, Harris and others less obvious. Vote the company line. Read the company script. Get your money and get re-elected.

They are like a bunch of robots spitting out that propaganda.

 

[blackpug6]

no idea of context
aka the darn Movie...

only watch Old Westerns!

 

[Pine_Tree1]

Yep … would love for it to be Newsome v Desantis. No matter who won, the country would be better off than electing Biden or Trump. Nobody wins if we have to choose between a has-been or a never was.

Donald Trump accomplished a lot during his presidency. I think he would bring back American jobs, help fix the spiraling border situation, and get the economy going back in the right direction. I also think he's the president most likely to broker peace talks in the Russia/Ukraine war and stop escalatory talks on behalf of America.

I don't like the person much but he did a good job. I think he could help the nation out - but the nation will further divide the country to attack him every chance they get so...

 

[KidneyStoned]

No, he is exactly what they want. He's a figurehead that does what he's told and given money. That's why you have Fetterman, Pelosi, Feinstein, Harris and others less obvious. Vote the company line. Read the company script. Get your money and get re-elected.

Shouldn’t you be conducting an independent audit, with an intended and paid for result that just doesn’t play out the way you just assumed it would?

 

[Pine_Tree1]

Desantis has the charisma of a wet log and a terrible PR team. He will only be the republican nominee if Donald Trump dies or is in prison (both possible I guess). He's a policy man. He has what appears to be sound policies but he's beyond weak at delivering a vision to the people.

 

[KidneyStoned]

Donald Trump accomplished a lot during his presidency. I think he would bring back American jobs, help fix the spiraling border situation, and get the economy going back in the right direction. I also think he's the president most likely to broker peace talks in the Russia/Ukraine war and stop escalatory talks on behalf of America.

I don't like the person much but he did a good job. I think he could help the nation out - but the nation will further divide the country to attack him every chance they get so...

His economic success was inertia driven. He didn’t improve anything, he just rode the wave.

He fumbled everything he swore he would do once elected. None of that silly BS ever came to fruition. And when confronted with the C19 disaster he shit the bed.

 

[zingerdawg]

Trump Administration Accomplishments

www.mcleancountyrepublicans.org

These are also things he did. Crappy human. But did a lot more than he will get credit for till much later. Some of the governing stuff being post about him just isn’t the complete truth.

Trump Administration Accomplishments – The White House

trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov

Just an opposing viewpoint. He has earned what he is getting, but the revisionist history just isn’t correct.

NEW: Economic Comeback Under President Trump Breaks 70-Year Record – The White House

trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov

U.S. economy posts record growth in third-quarter; COVID-19 scarring to last

The U.S. economy grew at a historic pace in the third quarter as the government injected more than $3 trillion worth of pandemic relief which fueled consumer spending, but the deep scars from the COVID-19 recession could take a year or more to heal.

www.reuters.com

Economy was recovering. We elect a vege. He uses executive orders to undo all trump as done. And we go into an extended clusterf. Democrats were asked on camera to name some good things Biden did in year one at at dnc stop. Had trouble coming up with one positive.

 

[KidneyStoned]

Fair enough. So what did he do to you and me that made him bad?

That seems to be the question no one can or will answer.

He attempted to undermine the fundamental principle that our nation is founded upon. We are a weaker country as a result. As a patriot, I resent him for that.

He hired and fired people on the most important jobs - jobs that are imperative for preserving National security - based on childish, absurd reasons. He treated the government like a reality TV show. You have never been less safe than you were during his Presidency. The most important decisions were being made by a stream of idiots and sycophants.

He made us enemies of each other to further his personal interests and continues to do so.

He jeopardized our national security with his arrogance and childish decision making, and his absurdly silly handling of confidential documents.

He jeopardized our national security with his weakness in dealings with Russia and China, improved nothing with his silly “deal maker” ass kissing approach.

And he wanted to have sex with his own daughter, which is gross.

 

[Pine_Tree1]

His economic success was inertia driven. He didn’t improve anything, he just rode the wave.

He fumbled everything he swore he would do once elected. None of that silly BS ever came to fruition. And when confronted with the C19 disaster he shit the bed.

his #1 issue was he hired and retained and ultimately trusted people he really should not have. his own staff members were some of his biggest enemies and he didn't even see it.

 

[Pine_Tree1]

He attempted to undermine the fundamental principle that our nation is founded upon. We are a weaker country as a result. As a patriot, I resent him for that.

He made us enemies of each other to further his personal interests and continues to do so.

He jeopardized our national security with his arrogance and childish decision making, and his absurdly silly handling of confidential documents.

He jeopardized our national security with his weakness in dealings with Russia and China, improved nothing with his silly “deal maker” ass kissing approach.

And he wanted to have sex with his own daughter, which is gross.

every president has declassified documents andmany have taken them with them when they left for their archives and library. I agree if Trump did illegal things, he should be in jail. But then so should Joe Biden who took documents as a VP (which he was not in position to declassify himself) and stored them in his garage not to mention his trail of apparent corruption. Barack Obama should go to prison for ordering a drone strike (murder) on a 16 year American citizen at a cafe in Yemen, Bush should go to prison for getting us into Iraq on false pretenses. I'm sure Clinton (both Hillary and Bill) have plenty of skeletons in their closets (o wait, where do we begin?).

put Trump in jail first, but line all former presidents up for the crimes they committed. While we're at it, why does Nancy Pelosi do so incredibly well in the stock market. Is Eric Swallwell still hooking up with a Chinese spy - how long was he on the house intelligence committee after it came out of his extracurricular activities?

there are probably jail-worthy crimes in the recent past of 40% democratic and republican congressmen. If you're going to send one to jail, I vote we clean house and send them all to jail. we'd be a better country

 

[Zonadog]

Shouldn’t you be conducting an independent audit, with an intended and paid for result that just doesn’t play out the way you just assumed it would?

Shouldn't you be finding something you understand to talk about?

 

[Athens is Heaven]

He attempted to undermine the fundamental principle that our nation is founded upon. We are a weaker country as a result. As a patriot, I resent him for that.

He hired and fired people on the most important jobs - jobs that are imperative for preserving National security - based on childish, absurd reasons. He treated the government like a reality TV show. You have never been less safe than you were during his Presidency. The most important decisions were being made by a stream of idiots and sycophants.

He made us enemies of each other to further his personal interests and continues to do so.

He jeopardized our national security with his arrogance and childish decision making, and his absurdly silly handling of confidential documents.

He jeopardized our national security with his weakness in dealings with Russia and China, improved nothing with his silly “deal maker” ass kissing approach.

And he wanted to have sex with his own daughter, which is gross.

You must think our country was founded on communism because he did things for this country that you Dems have never done. As for as dividing the country your God father Obama was the one that divided this country. You’re a lieing pathetic lib in everything you are saying.