About as ignorant and uninformed as it gets right here.
Georgia is re-opening...
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It will be nice to see antibody test results but I have a feeling those numbers will be deflated instead.
Being an “anti government helping people” person, If Covid destroyed your business, what would you depend on to support yourself?
Oh, and this:
There’s a possibility that the assault of the virus on our nation next winter will actually be even more difficult than the one we just went through,” CDC Director Robert Redfield told the Washington Post in an interview.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-winter-idUSKCN2233E8
^^^^^^Nothing sums up this guys posts better than his own words
Well of course that is possible. It is possible this is seasonal. It is possible it has been for 6 months or longer and herd immunity has already taken place. But let's say that is the case and we have an even more severe outbreak in the winter. Let's say that results in 100,000 deaths.
Do you want to shut the country down again over that?
You realize that is not the purpose of "flattening the curve", right?It's a flat curve folks....
It is pretty amazing how far we have moved the goal posts.
Yep - the point of flattening the curve was to prevent over-burdening of hospitals and healthcare providers - not to make cases plunge to zero. In fact if you go back and look at what epidemiologists have said, the point of flattening the curve was not to reduce cases, but to spread them out so that healthcare systems didn't get overwhelmed and we had the time to ramp up supply production to meet additional spikes in cases.
That seems to have been quickly forgotten.
Yeah - now we are talking about peaks and testing - none of which has anything to do with why we took the extraordinary measure of shutting down our economy.
The only question is whether we run the risk of overrunning health care systems and we never got anywhere close - 8,200 beds and we maxed out at 1,600.
I don't know where you get your data, but according the BLS, which provides employment statistics in the US, the Oil and Gas extraction subsector employed 158,000 people (if you can forgive me for rounding down, I can forgive you for overestimating O&G employment by a factor of 60).
https://www.bls.gov/iag/tgs/iag211.htm
That is the “extraction” subsector not all O&G employment
I think the issue (other than there being a R by his name) is the nail and hair salons. Ignoring for the moment whether you think anything should be closed, if you’re going to open things up slowly I would not think salons would be in the first group. That seems to be what has caught the ire of some around the country. Plus, I noticed AJC selectively cherry picked 6 ATL restauranteurs who I have never heard of who claim they’re not going to open on Monday because they’re not ready. These ppl criticized Kemp which of course is the reason why AJC quoted them for their article.
Im talking abot total employment in the petroleum business, not just oil extraction.
Yep - One of the state’s largest restaurant groups is opening Monday - or trying to.
it is ok that many aren’t ready, it is ok that many won’t, but if nothing more than to start breaking through the irrational fear that has built up we must start the process. What other choice do we have? Nothing is significantly changing in 2 weeks. We won’t have a vaccine nor will we have 300,000,000 tests.
Answer your own question, are we still trying to get over this virus or has it turned into the best thing to use against Trump.
Why? will someone's Grandma be forced to go get a TAT? And if someone's Grandma does, she made the choice to live free right?
Worse than the 2.5 million that died during the first round? Oh, wait...
Looks like you're an over the top drama queen who can't make his case without hyperbole
Why is the quack Fauci your go-to guy? He thinks we should never again shake hands but is ok with choosing to hook up on tinder. That's what 50 years as a government bureaucrat does to a person
That' fantastic, but its even funnier if you're wearing it while walking with another guy who has an "I'm with stupid" t-shirt
They did not cancel it. Just closed all schools and moved K-12 online only.
I don't want to get into a perfect account of all the petroleum related jobs and trying to parse out which are affected by upstream vs. downstream issues. I am reasonably confident that you can't get anywhere close to the 9 million figure that would be permanent impacted by the complete elimination of the exploration and production industry.
For example, refineries are more affected by the overall consumption of oil than the price of it. I don't know where pipelines fit in. Retail gasoline is probably closer to refineries in that its tied to volume and doesn't matter where the source it.
The bottom line is that the dividend to america from lower oil prices is worth way more than the capital and jobs in the industry. The investors who provided the capital to the petroleum industry are entitled to NOTHING from the American taxpayer unless it is something like PPP where the intent is to flow to the employees. The notion that we would promote policies that would enable Saudi Arabia and Russia to earn more money than the market price of oil would otherwise dictate is too stupid for words.
That is the exact reason we shut stuff down.. the rest of this is as you said moving the goalposts. we have flattened the curve now let's reopen.. i believe over 30 states are opening up within the next week with a number on friday. https://www.foxnews.com/us/which-states-ready-phase-1-reopening-coronavirus
Yep. We have been at this so long people forgot what we were trying to do in the first place.
well a big reason is the media.. the media has changed their story and talking points.. so the sheep usually fall in line with that.
Unfortunately this is correct. There is no money in moderation.
You just said a lot, to say nothing.
And you employ random statistics that have no basis in reality, which suggests you haven't a clue what you are talking about, which is borne out simple google searches.
Even your "I meant the petroleum" industry point is off by a factor of 3, and includes industry sub sectors that would not be impacted by US E&P.
https://www.usenergyjobs.org/2019-report
You should have seen his first post on the oil industry. Amazing.
So what’s your point ? Trolling or proving how little you know about a subject you chose to offer an opinion on?
Yeah, 36 years in the Petroleum industry, I'll leave it at that.
The CDC has been wrong the entire time. How the hell does this man know what this thing will do 6 months from now? Please tell me you don't trust what he says about something that far out?
K-12. Online kindergarten probably works about as well as an online BJ.
mad dawg mdc has cleverly used this thread to earn a spot on the lengthening list.
Some people have a better understanding of virology than others.
This has already been far worse than all of you “just the flu” guys imagined, so y’all have been wrong the entire time too.
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