Have Democrats been given a license to lie?

[Hoffman_rg]

Sure the Pres has the AG and unions which he uses to reduce the threat of prosecution or firing of Dems in the Federal govt. But it is more than that. Other Dem leaders plus rank and file Democrats overlook dishonesty in their party. This wasn’t the case in the past. Remember Richard Nixon who resigned only after Republicans told him he must. The media does their part by ignoring lies by Democrats and/ or defending the lies as they have done with Benghazi. Then we have Lois Lerner who even admitted to holding conservative organizations to a higher standard than liberal organizations and scores of computers all of a sudden crashed . Yet no outrage or even eyebrows lifted last week by anyone, not Republicans, Democrats or the media.

So we have a corrupt government and media that favor Dems today and half the country doesn’t care or is totally oblivious. The other half is livid resulting in a severely divided country. Will this become standard operating procedure for future administrations? If so how long can our system of government survive or will our democracy and/ or country split apart?

 

[HeulenHund2]

Sure the Pres has the AG and unions which he uses to reduce the threat of prosecution or firing of Dems in the Federal govt. But it is more than that. Other Dem leaders plus rank and file Democrats overlook dishonesty in their party. This wasn’t the case in the past. Remember Richard Nixon who resigned only after Republicans told him he must. The media does their part by ignoring lies by Democrats and/ or defending the lies as they have done with Benghazi. Then we have Lois Lerner who even admitted to holding conservative organizations to a higher standard than liberal organizations and scores of computers all of a sudden crashed . Yet no outrage or even eyebrows lifted last week by anyone, not Republicans, Democrats or the media.

So we have a corrupt government and media that favor Dems today and half the country doesn’t care or is totally oblivious. The other half is livid resulting in a severely divided country. Will this become standard operating procedure for future administrations? If so how long can our system of government survive or will our democracy and/ or country split apart?

I think most Republicans realize they've milked the Benghazi cow dry. Clinton did very well in explaining her words and actions post Benghazi attack. She admitted more could of been done prior to the attack. Far worse mistakes have to made in every war in history.

 

[Hoffman_rg]

I think most Republicans realize they've milked the Benghazi cow dry. Clinton did very well in explaining her words and actions post Benghazi attack. She admitted more could of been done prior to the attack. Far worse mistakes have to made in every war in history.

U say mistakes were made. A mistake is when u go to work and forget your briefcase. What occurred here is dereliction of duty!

. She should have gone to trial for dereliction of duty and fired. There were 600 cries of help to get more security and Hil just laughs claiming lower level security officers had that responsibility. There were 2 bombings of that consulate in 2012. Other countries and the red cross left. She knew that. She is a disgrace. Then she has the nerve to say she takes responsibility while at the same time blaming lower level security personnel. An honest person wouldnt take responsibility & not blame others.
The reason they formed a special committee was the memo from Ben Rhodes giving Susan Rice talking points which she used to tell the world the attack was caused by a video. Hil went along with the lie and that should bar her from ever holding political office. The lying is undeniable but dems show they have no character or ethics and ignore it. This is pretty much standard operating procedure for dems.

 

[jenkinscreekdawg]

I think most Republicans realize they've milked the Benghazi cow dry. Clinton did very well in explaining her words and actions post Benghazi attack. She admitted more could of been done prior to the attack. Far worse mistakes have to made in every war in history.

it's not over , the e-mails will keep coming and the interviews of people involved will continue, behind closed doors ; but they will continue. oh ,don't forget the FBI .

 

[HeulenHund2]

U say mistakes were made. A mistake is when u go to work and forget your briefcase. What occurred here is dereliction of duty!

. She should have gone to trial for dereliction of duty and fired. There were 600 cries of help to get more security and Hil just laughs claiming lower level security officers had that responsibility. There were 2 bombings of that consulate in 2012. Other countries and the red cross left. She knew that. She is a disgrace. Then she has the nerve to say she takes responsibility while at the same time blaming lower level security personnel. An honest person wouldnt take responsibility & not blame others.
The reason they formed a special committee was the memo from Ben Rhodes giving Susan Rice talking points which she used to tell the world the attack was caused by a video. Hil went along with the lie and that should bar her from ever holding political office. The lying is undeniable but dems show they have no character or ethics and ignore it. This is pretty much standard operating procedure for dems.

Anybody who knows dic about war history knows things get fouled up in these situations as often as not.
FDR could have been drummed out of office for His lack of diligence in heeding the warnings prior to The Attacks on Dec 7th 1941.
MacArthur was catatonic for a day when The Japanese attacked.
George Bush completely ignored Islamic terrorist till 9-11. Even then he went catatonic for 7 minutes and he was incapable of making simple decisions for hours after being informed.
Name a commander and I'll come up with a dereliction of duty.

You guys just want to get her, who the hell are you fooling ?

 

[Hoffman_rg]

Anybody who knows dic about war history knows things get fouled up in these situations as often as not.
FDR could have been drummed out of office for His lack of diligence in heeding the warnings prior to The Attacks on Dec 7th 1941.
MacArthur was catatonic for a day when The Japanese attacked.
George Bush completely ignored Islamic terrorist till 9-11. Even then he went catatonic for 7 minutes and he was incapable of making simple decisions for hours after being informed.
Name a commander and I'll come up with a dereliction of duty.

You guys just want to get her, who the hell are you fooling ?

Sorry but the "every leader behaves like this" defense doesnt work. A surprise attack is one thing but there were 600 pleas for more security, 2 prior attacks, and every other country had left Libya. I feel confident u could never, ever come up with a more blatant case of dereliction of duty. Also, can u find another example of a leader who covered up who did it and/or lie to the victims of the 9/11 attack? Of course u can't.. Nixon was forced to resign for covering up a stupid burglary and dems made out like it was world war 2. Were they after Nixon. Hell yes but repubs told him he had to resign. If dems had any honor they would also do that!

 

[HeulenHund2]

Sorry but the "every leader behaves like this" defense doesnt work. A surprise attack is one thing but there were 600 pleas for more security, 2 prior attacks, and every other country had left Libya. I feel confident u could never, ever come up with a more blatant case of dereliction of duty. Also, can u find another example of a leader who covered up who did it and/or lie to the victims of the 9/11 attack? Of course u can't.. Nixon was forced to resign for covering up a stupid burglary and dems made out like it was world war 2. Were they after Nixon. Hell yes but repubs told him he had to resign. If dems had any honor they would also do that!

There was no bad behavior in the Benghazi event, other than by the attackers.
Mistakes were made...period.
This witch hunt is just a prelude to what will come if she's elected. A horde of small people constantly making it impossible to govern and aggravating the 80% who wish they'd STFU once in a while. That is what I dread about the possibility of her winning.

 

[Atlanta Cock]

I think most Republicans realize they've milked the Benghazi cow dry. Clinton did very well in explaining her words and actions post Benghazi attack. She admitted more could of been done prior to the attack. Far worse mistakes have to made in every war in history.

Well, okay. Does that qualify her to become POTUS? I'm still waiting for someone to show me her bona fides. Many say she's smart. My college professors were smart, but they're not qualified. These are the same people who said Obama is smart. No, he is not. I'm not so sure about her either. For such a smart person, her resume of accomplishments is awfully bare.

We are in worse shape now than when she became SOS. I'm unaware of anything remarkable she did as a senator. She is 68 years old and fails to inspire me at all. In fact, isn't it interesting how the GOP field is younger and more diverse? In any event, other than her last name what qualifies her in any respect? I'm just not seeing how she is qualified based on her history. Compared to past Dems, for example Hubert Humphrey, she's relatively unqualified.

 

[oletex]

Sure the Pres has the AG and unions which he uses to reduce the threat of prosecution or firing of Dems in the Federal govt. But it is more than that. Other Dem leaders plus rank and file Democrats overlook dishonesty in their party. This wasn’t the case in the past. Remember Richard Nixon who resigned only after Republicans told him he must. The media does their part by ignoring lies by Democrats and/ or defending the lies as they have done with Benghazi. Then we have Lois Lerner who even admitted to holding conservative organizations to a higher standard than liberal organizations and scores of computers all of a sudden crashed . Yet no outrage or even eyebrows lifted last week by anyone, not Republicans, Democrats or the media.

So we have a corrupt government and media that favor Dems today and half the country doesn’t care or is totally oblivious. The other half is livid resulting in a severely divided country. Will this become standard operating procedure for future administrations? If so how long can our system of government survive or will our democracy and/ or country split apart?

Yes, they have a built in media cover who would never stop the barrage were the shoe on the other foot. Fact. Moreover they have zero moral conscious given their self perceived and also again cover from media and courts and DOJ that whatever means necessary applies to their actions. The IRS thing was a horrible criminal act. Lois Lerner's lawyers probably cannot believe she skated. Facts. And worse, the anti- family, anti- middle class, anti- small business, anti- religious freedom unless you are muslim and frankly anti- American forces have united and out number us. Even more sad facts.

It has been building for years. The misfits, less affluent, unions to a degree, have gotten their opening with Obama and are united in their zeal to take what they perceive they don't have. Be it respect, money, power, it doesn't matter. And 80% of the media support them since they are generally of the same bent. By whatever means necessary and without a thought of what it is they are doing because at this point they ignorantly think they will benefit. They won't but since when has rationale stopped a mob. Benghazi was a product of incompetence and laziness both by the president and his secretary of state. They have done far worse. This wasn't any criminal act, just a dereliction driven by those two factors. About everything Obama has touched has turned to crap, so what else is new. The stain is on his supporters. He has made no bones about where he stands or lays.

 

[Hoffman_rg]

There was no bad behavior in the Benghazi event, other than by the attackers.
Mistakes were made...period.
This witch hunt is just a prelude to what will come if she's elected. A horde of small people constantly making it impossible to govern and aggravating the 80% who wish they'd STFU once in a while. That is what I dread about the possibility of her winning.

Your words,"Witch hunt? horde of small people"? STFU? If u can't debate without belittling those with which u disagree, it means u have lost the debate. Have u ever thought that Mrs Clinton brings all of this on herself? She is the one who made the decisions to not provide security and to stonewall or lie about what happened. She is the one who while being Secty of State took in millions of foreign govt contributions to her foundation. She is the one who used a private server to keep her emails away from FOIA, lied about it many times, deleted emails, and handled classified docs on an insecure server. General Petraeus was indicted for much less. Were the people that indicted him "small people"?.

Instead of being intellectually honest u make her out to be a victim of a great right wing conspiracy.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

I think most Republicans realize they've milked the Benghazi cow dry. Clinton did very well in explaining her words and actions post Benghazi attack. She admitted more could of been done prior to the attack. Far worse mistakes have to made in every war in history.

No doubt ppl like you believe that. She lied her ass off, she did GAS about those guys. She DGAS about anyone but her self.

To the OP's point. Yes, democRATS lie, always have, always will. Its what they do, they have to lie because if they were truthful they'd never be elected to anything. They depend on stupid ppl (see above) they need victims, they need dummies. They are by their very nature evil ppl. Not well meaning, not caring, just vultures that prey on the weak.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Well, okay. Does that qualify her to become POTUS? I'm still waiting for someone to show me her bona fides. Many say she's smart. My college professors were smart, but they're not qualified. These are the same people who said Obama is smart. No, he is not. I'm not so sure about her either. For such a smart person, her resume of accomplishments is awfully bare.

We are in worse shape now than when she became SOS. I'm unaware of anything remarkable she did as a senator. She is 68 years old and fails to inspire me at all. In fact, isn't it interesting how the GOP field is younger and more diverse? In any event, other than her last name what qualifies her in any respect? I'm just not seeing how she is qualified based on her history. Compared to past Dems, for example Hubert Humphrey, she's relatively unqualified.

Who in the race on the Republican side has better credentials?
They are all pigs in a poke to some degree.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

Who in the race on the Republican side has better credentials?
They are all pigs in a poke to some degree.

Are you kidding? Name anything this bitch has ever done in her life. To answer your question...All of them

 

[HeulenHund2]

Are you kidding? Name anything this bitch has ever done in her life. To answer your question...All of them

No, you like them all more, but looking at resumes shows a different story. Many feel sharing power with Bill, being a US Senator and Secretary Of State is a pretty strong political education.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

No, you like them all more, but looking at resumes shows a different story. Many feel sharing power with Bill, being a US Senator and Secretary Of State is a pretty strong political education.

What's she done? Does her lying and corruption not bother you?....well dumb question, for ppl like you its a resume enhancer...which explains why you think she's accomplished.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

No, you like them all more, but looking at resumes shows a different story. Many feel sharing power with Bill, being a US Senator and Secretary Of State is a pretty strong political education.

Do you care about her war on women?

 

[Rolodawg2011]

No, you like them all more, but looking at resumes shows a different story. Many feel sharing power with Bill, being a US Senator and Secretary Of State is a pretty strong political education.

Do you care that she put national security at risked and exposed a CIA opp?

 

[Rolodawg2011]

No, you like them all more, but looking at resumes shows a different story. Many feel sharing power with Bill, being a US Senator and Secretary Of State is a pretty strong political education.

Do you care she was kicked off the water gate team for fraud?

 

[Rolodawg2011]

No, you like them all more, but looking at resumes shows a different story. Many feel sharing power with Bill, being a US Senator and Secretary Of State is a pretty strong political education.

Do you care that Stood over caskets of her victims and lied about an internet video?

 

[HeulenHund2]

Are you kidding? Name anything this bitch has ever done in her life. To answer your question...All of them

No, you like them all more, but looking at resumes shows a different story. Many feel sharing power with Bill, being a US Senator and Secretary Of State is a pretty strong political education.

What's she done? Does her lying and corruption not bother you?....well dumb question, for ppl like you its a resume enhancer...which explains why you think she's accomplished.

When you resort to those personal insults you lose ground.
You're all over the place, the issue was experience for the office.
As for lying and corruption, look at the revelations to come out about The Clinton's biggest moralizing critics. Talk about sleazy hypocritical corruption.
I'm not lost on Hillary, I never said I was. I'll either vote for The Dem or I won't vote though. I can't vote for the current Republican agenda, that much I know.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

No, you like them all more, but looking at resumes shows a different story. Many feel sharing power with Bill, being a US Senator and Secretary Of State is a pretty strong political education.


When you resort to those personal insults you lose ground.
You're all over the place, the issue was experience for the office.
As for lying and corruption, look at the revelations to come out about The Clinton's biggest moralizing critics. Talk about sleazy hypocritical corruption.
I'm not lost on Hillary, I never said I was. I'll either vote for The Dem or I won't vote though. I can't vote for the current Republican agenda, that much I know.

So her lying and corruption doesn't bother you? I figured as much. Says more about you than her.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Do you care that Stood over caskets of her victims and lied about an internet video?

It wasn't a lie. Two Embassies in that region had been violently attacked, clearly provoked by the video.
I know it's the republican way to tell the world to go f...itself. A Secretary Of State's job is far more complicated though. Her explanation of what her intent was in mentioning the video makes good sense. It is not in our National interest to alienate more Muslims than necessary. A stick is just a blunt instrument without the carrot.

 

[HeulenHund2]

So her lying and corruption doesn't bother you? I figured as much. Says more about you than her.

Your words, and weak ones at that.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

It wasn't a lie. Two Embassies in that region had been violently attacked, clearly provoked by the video.
I know it's the republican way to tell the world to go f...itself. A Secretary Of State's job is far more complicated though. Her explanation of what her intent was in mentioning the video makes good sense. It is not in our National interest to alienate more Muslims than necessary. A stick is just a blunt instrument without the carrot.

Well you you want to spout that BS go ahead if it makes you feel better. But it was an absolute LIE and she and POSOTUS told it for TWO WEEKS after. No one saw that video, no one even knew wtf IT WAS. How do I know. Google it, Youtude said it had less than a dozen hits before 9/11. Like I've always said. Democrats depend on stupid ppl.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Your words,"Witch hunt? horde of small people"? STFU? If u can't debate without belittling those with which u disagree, it means u have lost the debate. Have u ever thought that Mrs Clinton brings all of this on herself? She is the one who made the decisions to not provide security and to stonewall or lie about what happened. She is the one who while being Secty of State took in millions of foreign govt contributions to her foundation. She is the one who used a private server to keep her emails away from FOIA, lied about it many times, deleted emails, and handled classified docs on an insecure server. General Petraeus was indicted for much less. Were the people that indicted him "small people"?.

Instead of being intellectually honest u make her out to be a victim of a great right wing conspiracy.

I'm being intellectually honest, You're being ideologically driven, that is clear.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

Your words, and weak ones at that.

Well yea, I guess if your a blind and ignorant Hillary supporter. To support a bitch that will stand over dead bodies and lie to family members.....Well that's just as despicable as one can possibly get.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

I'm being intellectually honest, You're being ideologically driven, that is clear.

LOL,...Bless your heart.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Well you you want to spout that BS go ahead if it makes you feel better. But it was an absolute LIE and she and POSOTUS told it for TWO WEEKS after. No one saw that video, no one even knew wtf IT WAS. How do I know. Google it, Youtude said it had less than a dozen hits before 9/11. Like I've always said. Democrats depend on stupid ppl.

''less than a dozen hits'' that is absurd. Granny eats panties probably has thousands of hits. That video absolutely provoked violence, at least the idea of it did.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

''less than a dozen hits'' that is absurd. Granny eats panties probably has thousands of hits. That video absolutely provoked violence, at least the idea of it did.

There are hundreds of anti islam videos. Its BS plain and simple. As we found out last week, She knew it was a planned terrorist attack, she lied her sorry ass off about it to protect the narative she and POSOTUS were selling to the morons in this Country. It was PROVEN that while these men were still in the heat of battle, she and her minions were emails back and forth to come up with a story....not trying to rally help...but to protect her sorry ass politically.

Anyone that can look at this disgusting POS and want her to be leader of the free world is a bigger POS than she is, it shows the lack of character and integrity that runs rampant in democrat voters and is the reason the Country is in the shape its in. DemocRATS, Elect one POS after another.

 

[HeulenHund2]

There are hundreds of anti islam videos. Its BS plain and simple. As we found out last week, She knew it was a planned terrorist attack, she lied her sorry ass off about it to protect the narative she and POSOTUS were selling to the morons in this Country. It was PROVEN that while these men were still in the heat of battle, she and her minions were emails back and forth to come up with a story....not trying to rally help...but to protect her sorry ass politically.

Anyone that can look at this disgusting POS and want her to be leader of the free world is a bigger POS than she is, it shows the lack of character and integrity that runs rampant in democrat voters and is the reason the Country is in the shape its in. DemocRATS, Elect one POS after another.

You're starting to sell me. I might vote for her after all.
By the way ''granny eats panties'' has over 45 million hits on Google.

 

[CobbDawg51]

I think most Republicans realize they've milked the Benghazi cow dry. Clinton did very well in explaining her words and actions post Benghazi attack. She admitted more could of been done prior to the attack. Far worse mistakes have to made in every war in history.

HeulenHund2, you are absolutely pathetic.

 

[HeulenHund2]

LOL,...Bless your heart.

My heart is already blessed, but thanks for the support.

 

[HeulenHund2]

HeulenHund2, you are absolutely pathetic.

I'm providing an honest voice to your little get the bitch party, you should thank me.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

My heart is already blessed, but thanks for the support.

No, it hasn't been. I hope it is one day. But anyone that could support such a corrupt lying just evil person....can only have a black heart. I mean this is a woman that lied over caskets, laughed and high fived at the end of the hearing while family members were sitting in the room wanting answers, laughed about getting an obviously guilty child molester off for raping a 14 year old girl,...where she put the girl on trail. A woman who went after and tried to destroy her husbands victims through threats and intimidation. She has a history of fraud and corruption all they way back working on the Watergate hearings were she as fired for fraud.

But ppl like you excuse it all away...its one big conspiracy ..poor Hillary. You vote for corrupt grandma....she's a good fit for you.

 

[HeulenHund2]

it's not over , the e-mails will keep coming and the interviews of people involved will continue, behind closed doors ; but they will continue. oh ,don't forget the FBI .

I have no doubt if Hillary is elected there will be an army of get the bitch types constantly wanting every fart investigated and endless calls for impeachment, I dread that more than anything she might do.

 

[HeulenHund2]

No, it hasn't been. I hope it is one day. But anyone that could support such a corrupt lying just evil person....can only have a black heart. I mean this is a woman that lied over caskets, laughed and high fived at the end of the hearing while family members were sitting in the room wanting answers, laughed about getting an obviously guilty child molester off for raping a 14 year old girl,...where she put the girl on trail. A woman who went after and tried to destroy her husbands victims through threats and intimidation. She has a history of fraud and corruption all they way back working on the Watergate hearings were she as fired for fraud.

But ppl like you excuse it all away...its one big conspiracy ..poor Hillary. You vote for corrupt grandma....she's a good fit for you.

My heart isn't perfect, but it's far more benevolent and balanced toward honesty than my critics' on this board are.

 

[Hoffman_rg]

My heart isn't perfect, but it's far more benevolent and balanced toward honesty than my critics' on this board are.

Helen,I am reposting this because I never got an answer.

Your words,"Witch hunt? horde of small people"? STFU? If u can't debate without belittling those with which u disagree, it means u have lost the debate. Have u ever thought that Mrs Clinton brings all of this on herself? She is the one who made the decisions to not provide security and to stonewall or lie about what happened. She is the one who while being Secty of State took in millions of foreign govt contributions to her foundation. She is the one who used a private server to keep her emails away from FOIA, lied about it many times, deleted emails, and handled classified docs on an insecure server. General Petraeus was indicted for much less. Were the people that indicted him "small people"?.

Instead of being intellectually honest u make her out to be a victim of a great right wing conspiracy

 

[Rolodawg2011]

My heart isn't perfect, but it's far more benevolent and balanced toward honesty than my critics' on this board are.

Sez the guy that is supporting an unrepentant and long proven liar...Sure you are, sure you are...what every you have to tell yourself in order to live with yourself

 

[HeulenHund2]

My heart isn't perfect, but it's far more benevolent and balanced toward honesty than my critics' on this board are.

You know what IS important, not getting Us into a murderous war with Iran, THAT would get hundreds of thousands needlessly killed and weaken this country in the process. I want a fair and effective tax system and many other things that will actually matter. You guys seem more concerned with feeding your anger.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Helen,I am reposting this because I never got an answer.

Your words,"Witch hunt? horde of small people"? STFU? If u can't debate without belittling those with which u disagree, it means u have lost the debate. Have u ever thought that Mrs Clinton brings all of this on herself? She is the one who made the decisions to not provide security and to stonewall or lie about what happened. She is the one who while being Secty of State took in millions of foreign govt contributions to her foundation. She is the one who used a private server to keep her emails away from FOIA, lied about it many times, deleted emails, and handled classified docs on an insecure server. General Petraeus was indicted for much less. Were the people that indicted him "small people"?.

Instead of being intellectually honest u make her out to be a victim of a great right wing conspiracy

You might advise some on your side to adhere to the same standards you would impose on me. I never make the first insult by the way, and I never in my life have hit first, but I've hit last a few times. Of course THIS verbal joust won't have a last man standing. God I dread it, but I'm a strong willed person.