Have Democrats been given a license to lie?

[Rolodawg2011]

BS, His administration deliberately conflated Iraq with 9-11 to fool dupes, and damn were there ever willing dupes. That is just one of MANY such BS manipulations of citizens too lazy to try to understand just how absurd the claims were. Maybe you're ok with being led down the garden path, but I'm not.
That doesn't even go into how he allowed Wall Street to rob Us blind.

So Hillary, Kerry and the rest of the DemocRATS were dupes?

 

[HeulenHund2]

So Hillary, Kerry and the rest of the DemocRATS were dupes?

They didn't lie, and they weren't the POTUS, that was your point, right ?
I've said before most all politicians were too cowardly to stand against going into Iraq in the climate created by Bush/Cheney.
Most would likely not have turned attention to Iraq in the first place though. I'm absolutely sure most wouldn't have BSed lazy citizens into thinking Sadam had a role in the 9-11 attacks.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

They didn't lie, and they weren't the POTUS, that was your point, right ?
I've said before most all politicians were too cowardly to stand against going into Iraq in the climate created by Bush/Cheney.
Most would likely not have turned attention to Iraq in the first place though. I'm absolutely sure most wouldn't have BSed lazy citizens into thinking Sadam had a role in the 9-11 attacks.

Then tell me. What did Bush lie about? I mean holy shit...are you like 20 or something?

 

[HeulenHund2]

Then tell me. What did Bush lie about? I mean holy shit...are you like 20 or something?

He repeatedly, deliberately conflated 9-11 with Sadam and Iraq. How many times do I need to repeat it ? Bush and Cheney used many deceits, one was saying terrorist were both training and being protected by Sadam. The truth ? the training camp was in the northern no fly zone...OUR territory. The terrorist in Iraq ? he was in a prison.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

He repeatedly, deliberately conflated 9-11 with Sadam and Iraq. How many times do I need to repeat it ? Bush and Cheney used many deceits, one was saying terrorist were both training and being protected by Sadam. The truth ? the training camp was in the northern no fly zone...OUR territory. The terrorist in Iraq ? he was in a prison.

So as President he should have ignored all the intell from The Brits, the French, the Israelis , Saudi Arabia, The Ruskies, ...and about every Intel service in the world? Oh yea,thats lying alright......I think we've stumbled on your problem....You've been a liberal so long, you don't understand what lying is or means......its just whatever you say it is.

 

[HeulenHund2]

So as President he should have ignored all the intell from The Brits, the French, the Israelis , Saudi Arabia, The Ruskies, ...and about every Intel service in the world? Oh yea,thats lying alright......I think we've stumbled on your problem....You've been a liberal so long, you don't understand what lying is or means......its just whatever you say it is.

There was no intel from The Brits or anybody else with credibility indicating Sadam had a role in 9-11, was harboring terrorist or of a terrorist training camp in Sadam controlled territory.
Those things and many similar misleading statements were pure manipulation from The White House.
Convincing The American people Sadam had a role in 9-11 was the first step in turning attention away from the real perpetrators. In a way 9-11 was used by The Neo-Cons to do what they'd been pushing for 10 years prior to 9-11.

 

[oletex]

Bush manipulated and misled ( at best) while thousands of Americans died.
You're damn straight far worse has been said and done by American Presidents.

There is clearly misogyny when discussing Hillary on this board ..''bull dyke'' ''skank''. You can like to look at cheerleaders and love the Wife's cooking and still harbor hate for women who dare to be aggressive in public life.

For a guy who thinks he gets it you absolutely smack Helen. You just flat don't get shiat! Nothing. But wait, I think you do. You just hate the other side more than you enjoy being honest and responsible. Many, many people grew up with a chip of some sort on their shoulder. Reason I know is because I did as well but after the army I got my education courtesy of U.S. then proceeded to bankrupt and kill (business wise) some of the khaki britches wearing white boy competitors in business. The same jackazzes who went off to college on daddy while I went off to S.E. Asia in the sixties.

But I got my anger out and laid my vengeance away and began focusing on my family. I don't believe you have. Therefore you live up to your armpits in bitterness like my middle brother who is a full fledged communist because he wound up working for the government, head of the local government union while I did very well in business. He was the most conservative human I've ever known til he went to work for the gubmint and I got country boy rich. Now he hates. He is actually far more ridiculous that you. Problem is you are lying and spinning your azz off to appear somewhat rational. But you are catching them faster than you can string them in the wake of Obama and the bitch, skank. You see I call them like I see them. She is a foul human. Carly on the other hand is a dynamic, precise, brilliant leader and one of the most heady humans under pressure in the USA! So what is it with me bitterman, am I a woman hater on the one hand yet a woman worshipper on the other. Neither I am honest and being an independent allows me to be so. I am not married to a gang. And I got my bitterness out years ago.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

There was no intel from The Brits or anybody else with credibility indicating Sadam had a role in 9-11, was harboring terrorist or of a terrorist training camp in Sadam controlled territory.
Those things and many similar misleading statements were pure manipulation from The White House.
Convincing The American people Sadam had a role in 9-11 was the first step in turning attention away from the real perpetrators. In a way 9-11 was used by The Neo-Cons to do what they'd been pushing for 10 years prior to 9-11.

Embarrassed ? Oh no, I forgot. You can shame or embarrass a liberal


Critics of the Iraq War have consistently claimed that George W. Bush misled the U.S. into an immoral and/or unnecessary conflict by lying repeatedly about an arsenal of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) that Saddam Hussein allegedly possessed and might supply these weapons to terrorists like those who had already attacked America on 9/11.

Democrat Senator Harry Reid spoke for a host of other opponents of the war in insisting that "the Bush White House manufactured and manipulated intelligence in order to bolster its case for the war in Iraq." Senator Ted Kennedy depicted the war as a sinister plot "made up in Texas" and sold to Congress because it "was going to be good politically" for President Bush. "The whole thing was a fraud," said Kennedy. Former Vice President Al Gore charged that Bush was "engaged in a systematic effort to manipulate the facts in service to a totalistic ideology," and that the invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with WMD, but rather had been "pre-ordained and planned before 9/11 ever took place."

In fact, however, George Tenet, George W. Bush's CIA director, assured the President that the case for Saddam possessing WMD was “a slam dunk.” In this assessment, Tenet had the backing of all fifteen agencies involved in gathering intelligence for the United States. The National Intelligence Estimate of 2002, where their collective views were summarized, asserted with “high confidence” that "Iraq is continuing, and in some areas expanding its chemical, biological, nuclear, and missile programs contrary to UN resolutions.

The intelligence agencies of Britain, Germany, Russia, China, Israel, and France all agreed with this judgment. Even Hans Blix—who headed the UN team of inspectors trying to determine whether Saddam had complied with the demands of the Security Council that he dispose of the WMD he was known to have had in the past—lent further credibility to the case in a report he issued only a few months before the invasion:

 

[HeulenHund2]

Embarrassed ? Oh no, I forgot. You can shame or embarrass a liberal


Critics of the Iraq War have consistently claimed that George W. Bush misled the U.S. into an immoral and/or unnecessary conflict by lying repeatedly about an arsenal of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) that Saddam Hussein allegedly possessed and might supply these weapons to terrorists like those who had already attacked America on 9/11.

Democrat Senator Harry Reid spoke for a host of other opponents of the war in insisting that "the Bush White House manufactured and manipulated intelligence in order to bolster its case for the war in Iraq." Senator Ted Kennedy depicted the war as a sinister plot "made up in Texas" and sold to Congress because it "was going to be good politically" for President Bush. "The whole thing was a fraud," said Kennedy. Former Vice President Al Gore charged that Bush was "engaged in a systematic effort to manipulate the facts in service to a totalistic ideology," and that the invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with WMD, but rather had been "pre-ordained and planned before 9/11 ever took place."

In fact, however, George Tenet, George W. Bush's CIA director, assured the President that the case for Saddam possessing WMD was “a slam dunk.” In this assessment, Tenet had the backing of all fifteen agencies involved in gathering intelligence for the United States. The National Intelligence Estimate of 2002, where their collective views were summarized, asserted with “high confidence” that "Iraq is continuing, and in some areas expanding its chemical, biological, nuclear, and missile programs contrary to UN resolutions.

The intelligence agencies of Britain, Germany, Russia, China, Israel, and France all agreed with this judgment. Even Hans Blix—who headed the UN team of inspectors trying to determine whether Saddam had complied with the demands of the Security Council that he dispose of the WMD he was known to have had in the past—lent further credibility to the case in a report he issued only a few months before the invasion:

I never mentioned WMD, that was the second phase of leading Us to war. We never would have focused on Iraq in relation to 9-11 if not for The Bush/Cheney NeoCon lies.
I don't expect You're capable of seeing that obvious truth though.
Hell, You might STILL think Sadam was involved, some are slow to see things.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

I never mentioned WMD, that was the second phase of leading Us to war. We never would have focused on Iraq in relation to 9-11 if not for The Bush/Cheney NeoCon lies.
I don't expect You're capable of seeing that obvious truth though.
Hell, You might STILL think Sadam was involved, some are slow to see things.

Lord, I don't think you're capable of following along here. Intel was telling him Saddam was working with Terrorists...and he was, so we just lost 3k+ Americans....I guess you'd have waited until more were dead facing these reports?

 

[oletex]

And yeah Helen, I seriously enjoyed the drug dealin', most inspirational, dynamic man of my era. The honorable Ronald Reagan who quite possibly saved our great nation. I was named after FDR and came from a long line of yellow dogs. So I have seen both sides. And I vote for the "MAN" not the party (thought I would throw you a bone by using the man word). And Hill ain't my kind of man but Carly is.

 

[HeulenHund2]

And yeah Helen, I seriously enjoyed the drug dealin', most inspirational, dynamic man of my era. The honorable Ronald Reagan who quite possibly saved our great nation. I was named after FDR and came from a long line of yellow dogs. So I have seen both sides. And I vote for the "MAN" not the party (thought I would throw you a bone by using the man word). And Hill ain't my kind of man but Carly is.

You sure like to insult democrats for somebody who ''votes for the man f...pup.
Reagan didn't run Iran Contra though, GHW Bush did. Reagan wasn't capable of planning a trip to the bathroom by his second term.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Lord, I don't think you're capable of following along here. Intel was telling him Saddam was working with Terrorists...and he was, so we just lost 3k+ Americans....I guess you'd have waited until more were dead facing these reports?

Intel was in no way telling The Bush people Saddam was working with terrorist. THAT was a pure GD lie, one that cost the fluster f..k the Mid-East is today and the loss of thousands of American lives..so far.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

Intel was in no way telling The Bush people Saddam was working with terrorist. THAT was a pure GD lie, one that cost the fluster f..k the Mid-East is today and the loss of thousands of American lives..so far.

Yes that is what the intel said. Rush describes ppl like you very well...Low information voter.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Yes that is what the intel said. Rush describes ppl like you very well...Low information voter.

That explains a lot. You're a ''Rush Is Right'' puppet.
It's amazing you people think you are independent thinkers, laughable really.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

That explains a lot. You're a ''Rush Is Right'' puppet.
It's amazing you people think you are independent thinkers, laughable really.

Well when you can dispute him I'll consider your POV...But...again, you are what you accuse others of being. You're about an independent a thinker as a Black Lives Matter groupie

 

[HeulenHund2]

Well when you can dispute him I'll consider your POV...But...again, you are what you accuse others of being. You're about an independent a thinker as a Black Lives Matter groupie

There is nothing cookie cutter about my views, Yours on the other hand couldn't be more generic.

 

[oletex]

There is nothing cookie cutter about my views, Yours on the other hand couldn't be more generic.

Of all the preposterous drivel you have posted here the "nothing cookie cutter" likely stands alone. You are a robotic slave to leftist smoke and mirrors. Be careful as it will consume you. And will cause you to lose all ability to reason or think. And become the type who runs all daily discourse through the Saul Alinsky book of radical leftist diatribe. My brother, the commie, lives the life of a near hermit because of his one track, single minded radicalism. He lives in the swamp, 2 huge Iranian military dogs patrolling inside an 8 ft fence. Everybody within 30 miles of him knows him as that crazy guy on facebook, etc. Our family is uncomfortable around him, afraid of saying the wrong thing that might set him off.