Have Democrats been given a license to lie?

[Rolodawg2011]

You know what IS important, not getting Us into a murderous war with Iran, THAT would get hundreds of thousands needlessly killed and weaken this country in the process. I want a fair and effective tax system and many other things that will actually matter. You guys seem more concerned with feeding your anger.

Lord have mercy. This current POSOTUS has set the table, we're going back to war. Have you heard we're back into combat operations in Iraq? War's start because Liberals weaken the Country

A fair tax system? LOL The only tax system this bitch knows is...MORE TAXES. And besides, if she tells you that she's going to do exactly what you ask.......you really believe her?

 

[HeulenHund2]

Lord have mercy. This current POSOTUS has set the table, we're going back to war. Have you heard we're back into combat operations in Iraq? War's start because Liberals weaken the Country

A fair tax system? LOL The only tax system this bitch knows is...MORE TAXES. And besides, if she tells you that she's going to do exactly what you ask.......you really believe her?

We've had a tiny fraction of American soldiers killed in recent years. It started the year Obama took office. I have little doubt McCain would have taken Us to war with Iran. That would have proven far more deadly than the disaster Iraq has been. We would have stumbled our way into constant conflict with Shias.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

You might advise some on your side to adhere to the same standards you would impose on me. I never make the first insult by the way, and I never in my life have hit first, but I've hit last a few times. Of course THIS verbal joust won't have a last man standing. God I dread it, but I'm a strong willed person.

Who on ourside lied to about getting men killed? Who on ourside has made up stories to excuse away failures? Who on our side looks to take away your rights? Who on our side trys to divide wedges in between the races? Who on our side lies about the economy? Then turns around and runs on the economy being bad?

To be a liberal you have to suspend facts, reason, logic and common sense.

 

[HeulenHund2]

We've had a tiny fraction of American soldiers killed in recent years. It started the year Obama took office. I have little doubt McCain would have taken Us to war with Iran. That would have proven far more deadly than the disaster Iraq has been. We would have stumbled our way into constant conflict with Shias.

I'm not fool enough to completely trust anybody, let alone a politician. We only have the choices available to Us. Mine are support the Dem or sit this one out. If I feel close to as bad about the Dem as I do the current Republican agenda, I'll stay home ant watch on tv.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

We've had a tiny fraction of American soldiers killed in recent years. It started the year Obama took office. I have little doubt McCain would have taken Us to war with Iran. That would have proven far more deadly than the disaster Iraq has been. We would have stumbled our way into constant conflict with Shias.

So proclaiming the war over, and no soldiers in combat roles....he only meant ..just a few? War with Iran? Um POSOTUS just gave him 150 BILLION bucks...You think they'll use that for Infidel outreach programs? And the ability and RIGHT to build nukes? I'm sure its perfectly innocent and only used to heat remote caves. But its going to be ok right? I mean Bill Clinton did the same with the NKs...and that turned out exactly as he said it would.......right? didn't it???

 

[HeulenHund2]

Who on ourside lied to about getting men killed? Who on ourside has made up stories to excuse away failures? Who on our side looks to take away your rights? Who on our side trys to divide wedges in between the races? Who on our side lies about the economy? Then turns around and runs on the economy being bad?

To be a liberal you have to suspend facts, reason, logic and common sense.

BUSH..are you completely deaf and blind to ''your side'' ? Talk about suspending logic...holy duck.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

BUSH..are you completely deaf and blind to ''your side'' ? Talk about suspending logic...holy duck.

Bush lied about getting guys killed??? Holy shit!!! show me please...

 

[HeulenHund2]

So proclaiming the war over, and no soldiers in combat roles....he only meant ..just a few? War with Iran? Um POSOTUS just gave him 150 BILLION bucks...You think they'll use that for Infidel outreach programs? And the ability and RIGHT to build nukes? I'm sure its perfectly innocent and only used to heat remote caves. But its going to be ok right? I mean Bill Clinton did the same with the NKs...and that turned out exactly as he said it would.......right? didn't it???

Bush backed away from his deadlines to get out of Iraq repeatedly. A standing army in Iraq would mean endless deadly attacks that would still be killing thousands of Americans. War is not perfect, but I far prefer Obama's results in Iraq to Bush's. More to the point, Bush opened Pandora's box and no POTUS will be able to make it right.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Bush lied about getting guys killed??? Holy shit!!! show me please...

If you're so blind, I won't humor you, you're hopeless. Go ahead and deny what the world knows.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

If you're so blind, I won't humor you, you're hopeless. Go ahead and deny what the world knows.

Oh, Bush lied people died thingy? That...well you got a problem fella....You gal voted for it and supported him....So...ya know....


https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...e2f36c-7bec-11e5-b575-d8dcfedb4ea1_story.html

 

[HeulenHund2]

Oh, Bush lied people died thingy? That...well you got a problem fella....You gal voted for it and supported him....So...ya know....


https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...e2f36c-7bec-11e5-b575-d8dcfedb4ea1_story.html

She's not ''my gal'' anymore than you slip the tongue to Trump. I disagreed with Clinton then and I still do on that issue. Almost every politician was afraid to be treated like a French fry back then, it was cowardly.
There were MANY, MANY bad mistakes and misrepresentations AFTER the invasion though.
I almost posted a few but that is an endless rehashing I'm not getting into.

 

[oletex]

No, you like them all more, but looking at resumes shows a different story. Many feel sharing power with Bill, being a US Senator and Secretary Of State is a pretty strong political education.


When you resort to those personal insults you lose ground.
You're all over the place, the issue was experience for the office.
As for lying and corruption, look at the revelations to come out about The Clinton's biggest moralizing critics. Talk about sleazy hypocritical corruption.
I'm not lost on Hillary, I never said I was. I'll either vote for The Dem or I won't vote though. I can't vote for the current Republican agenda, that much I know.

"When you resort to those personal insults you lose ground" That sir is priceless. You posting content would lose fully 30% were personal insults removed. I stopped reading your post at that point. If you have issues that ignite or cause PI's then I do apologize. Or if your recall fails you at times. That is not an insult, we all have some quirks.

 

[HeulenHund2]

"When you resort to those personal insults you lose ground" That sir is priceless. You posting content would lose fully 30% were personal insults removed. I stopped reading your post at that point. If you have issues that ignite or cause PI's then I do apologize. Or if your recall fails you at times. That is not an insult, we all have some quirks.

You're one to be chastising anybody for bad manners. The tunnel vision that has plagued the republican party for decades seems to have many posters in it's grip.

 

[Hoffman_rg]

You might advise some on your side to adhere to the same standards you would impose on me. I never make the first insult by the way, and I never in my life have hit first, but I've hit last a few times. Of course THIS verbal joust won't have a last man standing. God I dread it, but I'm a strong willed person.

Cutting to the chase, Benghazi is just one of the many poor and/or incompetent decisions that Hil has made.

You might advise some on your side to adhere to the same standards you would impose on me. I never make the first insult by the way, and I never in my life have hit first, but I've hit last a few times. Of course THIS verbal joust won't have a last man standing. God I dread it, but I'm a strong willed person.

Hund, So calling people 'SMALL" who are critical of Hil is not an insult? However the larger point is u and other liberals give her a pass on everything even when people are killed in Benghazi, her email/server setup possibly jeopardized,our national security and CIA/FBI lives., She accepted millions from foreign govts which makes her a compromised candidate and possibly a blackmail target.. SHE COULD NOT HAVE DONE MUCH WORSE IF SHE HAD BEEN TRYING UNLESS SHE COMMITTED TREASON..Some might say she committed treason with that complicated uranium deal where our uranium ended up in Iran. I am not accusing her of treason because that hasn't been investigated.. But But it just isn't enough to say she made mistakes..

 

[HeulenHund2]

Cutting to the chase, Benghazi is just one of the many poor and/or incompetent decisions that Hil has made.


Hund, So calling people 'SMALL" who are critical of Hil is not an insult? However the larger point is u and other liberals give her a pass on everything even when people are killed in Benghazi, her email/server setup possibly jeopardized,our national security and CIA/FBI lives., She accepted millions from foreign govts which makes her a compromised candidate and possibly a blackmail target.. SHE COULD NOT HAVE DONE MUCH WORSE IF SHE HAD BEEN TRYING UNLESS SHE COMMITTED TREASON..Some might say she committed treason with that complicated uranium deal where our uranium ended up in Iran. I am not accusing her of treason because that hasn't been investigated.. But But it just isn't enough to say she made mistakes..

I meant small in relation to those who hounded The Clintons over anything and everything in Bill's years as POTUS, and in the process weakened Bill's ability to carry out his duties.
To My point of hypocrites.
Dan Burton.
Newt Gingrich
Bob Livingston
Bob Hastert
These are just off the top of my head some of the most persistent hypocrites who went on endlessly about morals and ''think of the children'' while doing at least as bad, often worse, than BC was ever accused of.

I'm waiting for the next batch of hypocrites to be exposed if HC is elected. No doubt hubris and ambition will lead many down that path again.

Also, 24% of voters consider themselves ''liberal'' I'm not among them. If you think those are the only people who see through this ''get her'' for anything situation, You're in for a letdown.
There is no doubt whatsoever in my mind many, or most of Hillary's worst critics just hate her on a gut level and will do most anything to bring her down.
I'm not saying she isn't flawed, and she may well self destruct like Nixon did, but she is correct about those who just want to destroy her politically.

 

[oletex]

You might advise some on your side to adhere to the same standards you would impose on me. I never make the first insult by the way, and I never in my life have hit first, but I've hit last a few times. Of course THIS verbal joust won't have a last man standing. God I dread it, but I'm a strong willed person.

Never in your life hit first but hit last a few times...last man standing? God, you dread it but you're a strong willed person? I feel like I'm stealing every time I log on here for free.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Never in your life hit first but hit last a few times...last man standing? God, you dread it but you're a strong willed person? I feel like I'm stealing every time I log on here for free.

I'm a wordsmith, it's both blessing and curse, it's not for the weak or timed.
I seriously do dread the endless whining that is a certainty if HC is elected, I don't see how any normal person wouldn't.

 

[oletex]

I'm a wordsmith, it's both blessing and curse, it's not for the weak or timed.
I seriously do dread the endless whining that is a certainty if HC is elected, I don't see how any normal person wouldn't.

OK, so far this what I know:

(1) You are in the tank for anyone with a negative view of the USA

(2) You think the USA has robbed, murdered and used viscious tactics to rise to the world's richest and most powerful spot and that folks such as the Castro's, the Santinista's, Russians and Islamists are justified to do what they will since we are monsters.

(3) You will meet up and fight over internet babble.

(4) You NEVER hit first however so I assume any meeter's and greater"s get the first lick but like John Wayne you always get the last.

(5) You are a wordsmith.

(6) You are extremely sensitive and defensive.

(7) Combine 5 and 6 and a lot of people here are walking around with some colorful titles and less than favorable tendencies and burdens to bear.

That's why I dig these interwebs,

 

[HeulenHund2]

OK, so far this what I know:

(1) You are in the tank for anyone with a negative view of the USA

(2) You think the USA has robbed, murdered and used viscious tactics to rise to the world's richest and most powerful spot and that folks such as the Castro's, the Santinista's, Russians and Islamists are justified to do what they will since we are monsters.

(3) You will meet up and fight over internet babble.

(4) You NEVER hit first however so I assume any meeter's and greater"s get the first lick but like John Wayne you always get the last.

(5) You are a wordsmith.

(6) You are extremely sensitive and defensive.

(7) Combine 5 and 6 and a lot of people here are walking around with some colorful titles and less than favorable tendencies and burdens to bear.

That's why I dig these interwebs,

That's some imagination, kind of goofy, but imaginative none the less.
As far as sensitive, not at all, I do have empathy for real people without having to use the outlines of a map or ask permission from bad actors though. I might be more critical of those who commit real atrocities in the name of America because this is my country and I have no intention of being the sort of willing accomplice You seem happy to be.
If You're ok with things like Iran Contra, yet manage outrage at Clinton for Benghazi, I can only conclude you really don't much give a damn what this Country stands for, you simply don't like The Clintons.

 

[Hoffman_rg]

That's some imagination, kind of goofy, but imaginative none the less.
As far as sensitive, not at all, I do have empathy for real people without having to use the outlines of a map or ask permission from bad actors though. I might be more critical of those who commit real atrocities in the name of America because this is my country and I have no intention of being the sort of willing accomplice You seem happy to be.
If You're ok with things like Iran Contra, yet manage outrage at Clinton for Benghazi, I can only conclude you really don't much give a damn what this Country stands for, you simply don't like The Clintons.

There is alot of hypocrisy to go around. If Iran Contra bothered u, yet Fast and Furious didn't, then using your
logic, one would obviously conclude u really don't love your country and u hated Reagan. Quite a reach
don't u think.

That's some imagination, kind of goofy, but imaginative none the less.
As far as sensitive, not at all, I do have empathy for real people without having to use the outlines of a map or ask permission from bad actors though. I might be more critical of those who commit real atrocities in the name of America because this is my country and I have no intention of being the sort of willing accomplice You seem happy to be.
If You're ok with things like Iran Contra, yet manage outrage at Clinton for Benghazi, I can only conclude you really don't much give a damn what this Country stands for, you simply don't like The Clintons.

 

[Hoffman_rg]

There is alot of hypocrisy to go around. If Iran Contra bothered u, yet Fast and Furious didn't, then using your
logic, one would obviously conclude u really don't love your country and u hated Reagan. Quite a reach
don't u think.

One other thing. What do u think the CIA was doing in Benghazi? I think they were gun running and nobody cares. http://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-op...bassador-in-benghazi-was-really-doing/5483957

 

[HeulenHund2]

One other thing. What do u think the CIA was doing in Benghazi? I think they were gun running and nobody cares. http://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-op...bassador-in-benghazi-was-really-doing/5483957

I've actually seen it claimed The reason there wasn't more security at ''the annex'' where Stevens took refuge was The CIA wanted to avoid drawing attention. It came from an unnamed source who a writer claims is in the agency, Who knows if it's true, these things take years to sort through sometimes.
We all know We're the world's biggest weapons dealer. What made Iran Contra the worst of the worst is it had running hard drugs into this country while the official line was ''just say no'', selling weapons to Iran at a time they were our enemies and using the gains to illegally supply some really unsavory people who killed most anybody who spoke up, priest, farmers, lawyers, you name it, they killed them.

 

[HeulenHund2]

One other thing. What do u think the CIA was doing in Benghazi? I think they were gun running and nobody cares. http://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-op...bassador-in-benghazi-was-really-doing/5483957

The only 2 known facts from that link are..
We did supply small arms to ''Arab Spring'' rebels.
We did have CIA and special forces desperately trying to round up every loose surface to air missile in the contested areas. This was a TOP priority. Everybody, from State to The CIA and The Pentagon agreed having stingers loose to target Commercial aircraft would be too dangerous to NOT make every effort to reel them in. Third party boots on the ground were paid to help in the effort. It wouldn't be at all surprising if Benghazi was a clearing house for the effort. I seem to recall small weapons were exchanged for stingers as well, which would have tied everything together.
The reeling in of stingers would have been a very legitimate operation, but one in need of secrecy.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

She's not ''my gal'' anymore than you slip the tongue to Trump. I disagreed with Clinton then and I still do on that issue. Almost every politician was afraid to be treated like a French fry back then, it was cowardly.
There were MANY, MANY bad mistakes and misrepresentations AFTER the invasion though.
I almost posted a few but that is an endless rehashing I'm not getting into.

 

[Hoffman_rg]

I've actually seen it claimed The reason there wasn't more security at ''the annex'' where Stevens took refuge was The CIA wanted to avoid drawing attention. It came from an unnamed source who a writer claims is in the agency,

Not sure who they would want to avoid. They were relying on a local militia who ultimately helped take pics of the consulate for the attackers and then ran So the locals knew they were there.. If they wanted to not draw attention why have Stevens there at all?

I could maybe buy they would rely on the CIA security officers at the Annex who were only a few miles away but they were given an stand down order and delayed for a 1/2 hr. They ultimately went anyway. I think they were naive in thinking the local militia would actually stand and fight which they didnt.

Iran contra was somewhat complex. and I don't remember enough to comment. Even the Israelis were involved to give weapons to the iranians in exchange for hostages.
As for Fast and Furious, it was a pretty big deal in my opinion., We ended up giving thousands of weapons to the Mexican mafia or drug cartels thinking we could track them but they never tracked them. Holder ended up caught in a lie and was held in contempt of congress which had the effect of giving him a parking ticket. Obam got him out of his mess by claiming executive privilege. Several border agents were killed by these guns and I am sure hundreds of Mexicans as well.

 

[HeulenHund2]

k

The gun deal was stupid, but it wasn't intended to be a criminal enterprise. Iran Contra was nothing but criminal enterprises. There is little comparison IMO.

 

[oletex]

That's some imagination, kind of goofy, but imaginative none the less.
As far as sensitive, not at all, I do have empathy for real people without having to use the outlines of a map or ask permission from bad actors though. I might be more critical of those who commit real atrocities in the name of America because this is my country and I have no intention of being the sort of willing accomplice You seem happy to be.
If You're ok with things like Iran Contra, yet manage outrage at Clinton for Benghazi, I can only conclude you really don't much give a damn what this Country stands for, you simply don't like The Clintons.

I was happy with Iran contra. And unsurprised at Benghazi. Outraged is not my feeling. Rationale is simple. Reagan and his underlings were on our side. Protecting America. Doing what they needed to do to make our people safe. They had taken the side of the American citizen. Clinton was doing what she did to protect her azz and that of her boss. Simply because they had taken the side of protecting Muslim extremist's actions at the expense of American interests. And it blew in their face. Spare me the hyperbole, when it comes to my kids and my own last years on this planet I AM FOR US and the USA! Others have chosen their gang over the people here and their children/families. Since I am an independent I don't have the gang affiliation burden that most have. I can be honest. And carry a do the right thing as far as our best interest attitude.

I want my country to be safe, I want our culture to endure, I want my children to have the same advantages and opportunities I have had. I love what I have had. Which includes the chance to serve in the US military and see how terrible people in other parts of the world live. You probably have not therefore you are naive. You want Hillary to endure, you want a political party to endure. I sense anger and a desire for vengeance against the people who have made something of themselves on the part of leftists here. In fact of that there can be zero doubt. And NO I SIMPLY DON'T LIKE HILLARY! The idea of having to face that b---- 365 days a year with her trashy face snarling is too much for me. Sort of like what Bill has had to deal with. WTH was he thinking. He demonstrated he could be brilliant at times, teaming with Newt his second term and turning into a hell of a leader from the center. But a smart, charming guy choosing her was something he had to deal with. But hell don't dump her on the rest of us. Her being president means we are all are married to that nasty, nasty (fill in the blank). I may have 8 years left to live. Please don't make me suffer with that 365/24/7 every single one of them. Bill has basically avoided her and did what many would do, screwed everybody he could to get some relief and used her to chase money. We don't have that option, we just get the bitch part. It will be like having to listen to War Eagle 24/7, hell just take me Lord.

 

[HeulenHund2]

I was happy with Iran contra. And unsurprised at Benghazi. Outraged is not my feeling. Rationale is simple. Reagan and his underlings were on our side. Protecting America. Doing what they needed to do to make our people safe. They had taken the side of the American citizen. Clinton was doing what she did to protect her azz and that of her boss. Simply because they had taken the side of protecting Muslim extremist's actions at the expense of American interests. And it blew in their face. Spare me the hyperbole, when it comes to my kids and my own last years on this planet I AM FOR US and the USA! Others have chosen their gang over the people here and their children/families. Since I am an independent I don't have the gang affiliation burden that most have. I can be honest. And carry a do the right thing as far as our best interest attitude.

I want my country to be safe, I want our culture to endure, I want my children to have the same advantages and opportunities I have had. I love what I have had. Which includes the chance to serve in the US military and see how terrible people in other parts of the world live. You probably have not therefore you are naive. You want Hillary to endure, you want a political party to endure. I sense anger and a desire for vengeance against the people who have made something of themselves on the part of leftists here. In fact of that there can be zero doubt. And NO I SIMPLY DON'T LIKE HILLARY! The idea of having to face that b---- 365 days a year with her trashy face snarling is too much for me. Sort of like what Bill has had to deal with. WTH was he thinking. He demonstrated he could be brilliant at times, teaming with Newt his second term and turning into a hell of a leader from the center. But a smart, charming guy choosing her was something he had to deal with. But hell don't dump her on the rest of us. Her being president means we are all are married to that nasty, nasty (fill in the blank). I may have 8 years left to live. Please don't make me suffer with that 365/24/7 every single one of them. Bill has basically avoided her and did what many would do, screwed everybody he could to get some relief and used her to chase money. We don't have that option, we just get the bitch part. It will be like having to listen to War Eagle 24/7, hell just take me Lord.

''Happy with Iran Contra'', that is as clear an indication of a lack of morality intellectual honesty as I can think of. If Clinton had run tons of hard drugs into The US, traded weapons to enemies and lied to both Congress and The American people all of you would have condemned I-C as the worst criminal venture in our history.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

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[HeulenHund2]

What, no comments yet from @Heulenhound2

Clearly she lied. Did You think I had some pristine view of her ? I've said I may not even vote next year, that should clue you in to My doubts about the entire field.

 

[d-dawg]

I can't speak for the rest of the country but we do not need a bull dyke in the Whitehouse that really has a difficult time being honest. That plus having to hear about Bill running around with all of his hoors for 4 years makes me sick to my stomach. I have got to believe that this country has not sunk to a level that it's citizens believe that is our best option.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

You know what IS important, not getting Us into a murderous war with Iran, THAT would get hundreds of thousands needlessly killed and weaken this country in the process. I want a fair and effective tax system and many other things that will actually matter. You guys seem more concerned with feeding your anger.

Yea...like I said

After giving away the farm, President Obama is going to put troops on the ground. To fight ISIL and the Assad regime. With Russians backing Assad...

What could go wrong?

Quote:
Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said Tuesday that the U.S. will begin "direct action on the ground" against ISIS forces in Iraq and Syria, aiming to intensify pressure on the militants as progress against them remains elusive.

"We won't hold back from supporting capable partners in opportunistic attacks against ISIL, or conducting such missions directly whether by strikes from the air or direct action on the ground," Carter said in testimony before the Senate Armed Services committee, using an alternative name for the militant group.

Carter pointed to last week's rescue operation with Kurdish forces in northern Iraq to free hostages held by ISIS.

Related: Master Sgt. Joshua Wheeler, U.S. Commando Killed in ISIS Raid, Ran to Gunfight

Carter and Pentagon officials initially refused to characterize the rescue operation as U.S. boots on the ground. However, Carter said last week that the military expects "more raids of this kind" and that the rescue mission "represents a continuation of our advise and assist mission."

This may mean some American soldiers "will be in harm's way, no question about it," Carter said last week.

After months of denying that U.S. troops would be in any combat role in Iraq, Carter late last week in a response to a question posed by NBC News, also acknowledged that the situation U.S. soldiers found themselves in during the raid in Hawija was combat.

"This is combat and things are complicated," Carter said.

During Tuesday's Senate hearing, Carter said Wheeler "was killed in combat."

White House deputy press secretary Eric Schultz on Tuesday said the administration has "no intention of long term ground combat". He added that U.S. forces will continue to robustly train, advise and assist.

A feisty Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, said on Tuesday in the Senate Armed Services committee hearing that the U.S. effort in Syria is a "half-assed strategy at best," and said that the U.S. is not doing a "damn thing" to bring down Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime.

Carter on Tuesday pushed back against that notion.

Gen. Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, acknowledged that the "balance of forces" has tilted in Assad's favor.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Yea...like I said

After giving away the farm, President Obama is going to put troops on the ground. To fight ISIL and the Assad regime. With Russians backing Assad...

What could go wrong?

Quote:
Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said Tuesday that the U.S. will begin "direct action on the ground" against ISIS forces in Iraq and Syria, aiming to intensify pressure on the militants as progress against them remains elusive.

"We won't hold back from supporting capable partners in opportunistic attacks against ISIL, or conducting such missions directly whether by strikes from the air or direct action on the ground," Carter said in testimony before the Senate Armed Services committee, using an alternative name for the militant group.

Carter pointed to last week's rescue operation with Kurdish forces in northern Iraq to free hostages held by ISIS.

Related: Master Sgt. Joshua Wheeler, U.S. Commando Killed in ISIS Raid, Ran to Gunfight

Carter and Pentagon officials initially refused to characterize the rescue operation as U.S. boots on the ground. However, Carter said last week that the military expects "more raids of this kind" and that the rescue mission "represents a continuation of our advise and assist mission."

This may mean some American soldiers "will be in harm's way, no question about it," Carter said last week.

After months of denying that U.S. troops would be in any combat role in Iraq, Carter late last week in a response to a question posed by NBC News, also acknowledged that the situation U.S. soldiers found themselves in during the raid in Hawija was combat.

"This is combat and things are complicated," Carter said.

During Tuesday's Senate hearing, Carter said Wheeler "was killed in combat."

White House deputy press secretary Eric Schultz on Tuesday said the administration has "no intention of long term ground combat". He added that U.S. forces will continue to robustly train, advise and assist.

A feisty Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, said on Tuesday in the Senate Armed Services committee hearing that the U.S. effort in Syria is a "half-assed strategy at best," and said that the U.S. is not doing a "damn thing" to bring down Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime.

Carter on Tuesday pushed back against that notion.

Gen. Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, acknowledged that the "balance of forces" has tilted in Assad's favor.

If We'd left a large enough force in Iraq to make a difference We'd have thousands more dead American soldiers and nothing would have improved. Besides, The Iraqi government ordered us out.
If You think occupying Iraq would ever be like occupying Germany or Japan, You couldn't be more wrong.
I wouldn't listen to Graham or McCain in this matter, we'd be in a huge land war with Iran if they had their way.

 

[HeulenHund2]

I can't speak for the rest of the country but we do not need a bull dyke in the Whitehouse that really has a difficult time being honest. That plus having to hear about Bill running around with all of his hoors for 4 years makes me sick to my stomach. I have got to believe that this country has not sunk to a level that it's citizens believe that is our best option.

''bull dyke'' you just lost all credibility on this subject in my book.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

Clearly she lied. Did You think I had some pristine view of her ? I've said I may not even vote next year, that should clue you in to My doubts about the entire field.

You keep defending this corrupt lying skank..

 

[HeulenHund2]

You keep defending this corrupt lying skank..

I keep keeping it as close to real as possible. The lie about sniper fire is a far cry from the worst thing a presidential candidate has ever said, or more importantly, done. It's nowhere near as bad as many things done by a POTUS either.
It's this pretense that she is somehow worse than so many other lying politicians I object to.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

I keep keeping it as close to real as possible. The lie about sniper fire is a far cry from the worst thing a presidential candidate has ever said, or more importantly, done. It's nowhere near as bad as many things done by a POTUS either.
It's this pretense that she is somehow worse than so many other lying politicians I object to.

But lying while standing over caskets, and planning how to lie while men are still fighting and dying waiting on help....that's ok with you.that a far cry frm the worst thing a prersidential candidate has ever done too??..Gotcha..

 

[HeulenHund2]

But lying while standing over caskets, and planning how to lie while men are still fighting and dying waiting on help....that's ok with you.that a far cry frm the worst thing a prersidential candidate has ever done too??..Gotcha..

Bush manipulated and misled ( at best) while thousands of Americans died.
You're damn straight far worse has been said and done by American Presidents.

There is clearly misogyny when discussing Hillary on this board ..''bull dyke'' ''skank''. You can like to look at cheerleaders and love the Wife's cooking and still harbor hate for women who dare to be aggressive in public life.

 

[Rolodawg2011]

Bush manipulated and misled ( at best) while thousands of Americans died.
You're damn straight far worse has been said and done by American Presidents.

There is clearly misogyny when discussing Hillary on this board ..''bull dyke'' ''skank''. You can like to look at cheerleaders and love the Wife's cooking and still harbor hate for women who dare to be aggressive in public life.

Oh Dear God....No he didn't. I'm not a Bush fan. But he was dealing with the intel he was given, everyone...EVERYONE thought Saddam had WMDs. and in fact he did...So stop looking for excuses and bullshit to justify defending the most corrupt POS every to run of any office.

 

[HeulenHund2]

Oh Dear God....No he didn't. I'm not a Bush fan. But he was dealing with the intel he was given, everyone...EVERYONE thought Saddam had WMDs. and in fact he did...So stop looking for excuses and bullshit to justify defending the most corrupt POS every to run of any office.

BS, His administration deliberately conflated Iraq with 9-11 to fool dupes, and damn were there ever willing dupes. That is just one of MANY such BS manipulations of citizens too lazy to try to understand just how absurd the claims were. Maybe you're ok with being led down the garden path, but I'm not.
That doesn't even go into how he allowed Wall Street to rob Us blind.