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Tariffs and inflation

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Here we go. Anyone want to take a pass at explaining how these widespread tariffs are going to help control inflation? I work with a number of manufacturers with production plants in CA and MX and I can tell you that this is not good.

Also, look for you pharmaceuticals (along with a long list of other items) to spike in price.

🇨🇦 U.S. Imports from Canada
- Crude Oil & Petroleum Products – Largest import, crucial for U.S. energy supply
- Vehicles & Auto Parts – Canada is a major supplier for U.S. automakers
- Lumber & Wood Products – Essential for construction and furniture
- Machinery & Industrial Equipment – Includes turbines, engines, and heavy equipment
- Aluminum & Steel – Used in manufacturing, construction, and defense
- Natural Gas – Key for U.S. energy production
- Electrical Equipment – Power distribution components, transformers
- Pharmaceuticals & Medical Equipment – Includes vaccines, surgical tools
- Food & Agricultural Products – Wheat, canola, seafood, dairy products
- Aircraft & Aerospace Parts – Canada’s Bombardier is a major supplier

🇲🇽 U.S. Imports from Mexico
- Vehicles & Auto Parts – A critical supply chain for U.S. carmakers
- Computers & Electronics – Laptops, smartphones, semiconductors
- Machinery & Manufacturing Equipment – Includes industrial tools and robotics
- Medical Devices & Pharmaceuticals – Mexico is a key exporter of medical goods
- Agricultural Products – Avocados, tomatoes, berries, peppers, and tequila
- Oil & Petroleum Products – Fuel, refined oils
- Clothing & Textiles – Apparel, footwear, and fabric materials
- Appliances & Consumer Goods – Refrigerators, washing machines, and home goods
- Beer & Alcoholic Beverages – Mexico is the top supplier of beer to the U.S.
- Aerospace Components – Parts for planes and satellites

🇨🇳 U.S. Imports from China
- Electronics & Computers – Smartphones, laptops, semiconductors, networking equipment
- Machinery & Industrial Equipment – Manufacturing tools, robots, and heavy equipment
- Furniture & Home Goods – Sofas, tables, decorations
- Toys, Games & Sporting Equipment – The majority of U.S. toy imports come from China
- Clothing & Footwear – Shoes, apparel, and textiles
- Plastics & Rubber Products – Packaging, auto parts, medical supplies
- Pharmaceuticals & Medical Equipment – Generic drugs, masks, syringes
-Steel & Aluminum Products – Components for construction and manufacturing
- Auto Parts – Batteries, electronics, interior components
- Chemicals & Fertilizers – Essential for agriculture and industry
 
Prices are going to rise, but it will all be Biden’s fault.

Fox News and One America will deliver that news to the followers who will believe every word.
While there is nothing in any way challenging about economic principles and concepts involved in understanding why these tariffs will be inflationary, I’m sure you are correct.
 
Here we go. Anyone want to take a pass at explaining how these widespread tariffs are going to help control inflation? I work with a number of manufacturers with production plants in CA and MX and I can tell you that this is not good.

Also, look for you pharmaceuticals (along with a long list of other items) to spike in price.

🇨🇦 U.S. Imports from Canada
- Crude Oil & Petroleum Products – Largest import, crucial for U.S. energy supply
- Vehicles & Auto Parts – Canada is a major supplier for U.S. automakers
- Lumber & Wood Products – Essential for construction and furniture
- Machinery & Industrial Equipment – Includes turbines, engines, and heavy equipment
- Aluminum & Steel – Used in manufacturing, construction, and defense
- Natural Gas – Key for U.S. energy production
- Electrical Equipment – Power distribution components, transformers
- Pharmaceuticals & Medical Equipment – Includes vaccines, surgical tools
- Food & Agricultural Products – Wheat, canola, seafood, dairy products
- Aircraft & Aerospace Parts – Canada’s Bombardier is a major supplier

🇲🇽 U.S. Imports from Mexico
- Vehicles & Auto Parts – A critical supply chain for U.S. carmakers
- Computers & Electronics – Laptops, smartphones, semiconductors
- Machinery & Manufacturing Equipment – Includes industrial tools and robotics
- Medical Devices & Pharmaceuticals – Mexico is a key exporter of medical goods
- Agricultural Products – Avocados, tomatoes, berries, peppers, and tequila
- Oil & Petroleum Products – Fuel, refined oils
- Clothing & Textiles – Apparel, footwear, and fabric materials
- Appliances & Consumer Goods – Refrigerators, washing machines, and home goods
- Beer & Alcoholic Beverages – Mexico is the top supplier of beer to the U.S.
- Aerospace Components – Parts for planes and satellites

🇨🇳 U.S. Imports from China
- Electronics & Computers – Smartphones, laptops, semiconductors, networking equipment
- Machinery & Industrial Equipment – Manufacturing tools, robots, and heavy equipment
- Furniture & Home Goods – Sofas, tables, decorations
- Toys, Games & Sporting Equipment – The majority of U.S. toy imports come from China
- Clothing & Footwear – Shoes, apparel, and textiles
- Plastics & Rubber Products – Packaging, auto parts, medical supplies
- Pharmaceuticals & Medical Equipment – Generic drugs, masks, syringes
-Steel & Aluminum Products – Components for construction and manufacturing
- Auto Parts – Batteries, electronics, interior components
- Chemicals & Fertilizers – Essential for agriculture and industry
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Didn’t happen during his first term. One (of many) reasons is because of the offset in energy costs which drives down the costs of EVERYTHING.

This is all your side has. Do yourself a favor and just relax. There’s nothing you can do, and you will benefit from a lot of things he’s doing.
 
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Didn’t happen during his first term. One (of many) reasons is because of the offset in energy costs which drives down the costs of EVERYTHING.

This is all your side has. Do yourself a favor and just relax. There’s nothing you can do, and you will benefit from a lot of things he’s doing.
The offset in energy costs? Please explain.
 
Prices are going to rise, but it will all be Biden’s fault.

Fox News and One America will deliver that news to the followers who will believe every word.

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Here we go. Anyone want to take a pass at explaining how these widespread tariffs are going to help control inflation? I work with a number of manufacturers with production plants in CA and MX and I can tell you that this is not good.

Also, look for you pharmaceuticals (along with a long list of other items) to spike in price.

🇨🇦 U.S. Imports from Canada
- Crude Oil & Petroleum Products – Largest import, crucial for U.S. energy supply
- Vehicles & Auto Parts – Canada is a major supplier for U.S. automakers
- Lumber & Wood Products – Essential for construction and furniture
- Machinery & Industrial Equipment – Includes turbines, engines, and heavy equipment
- Aluminum & Steel – Used in manufacturing, construction, and defense
- Natural Gas – Key for U.S. energy production
- Electrical Equipment – Power distribution components, transformers
- Pharmaceuticals & Medical Equipment – Includes vaccines, surgical tools
- Food & Agricultural Products – Wheat, canola, seafood, dairy products
- Aircraft & Aerospace Parts – Canada’s Bombardier is a major supplier

🇲🇽 U.S. Imports from Mexico
- Vehicles & Auto Parts – A critical supply chain for U.S. carmakers
- Computers & Electronics – Laptops, smartphones, semiconductors
- Machinery & Manufacturing Equipment – Includes industrial tools and robotics
- Medical Devices & Pharmaceuticals – Mexico is a key exporter of medical goods
- Agricultural Products – Avocados, tomatoes, berries, peppers, and tequila
- Oil & Petroleum Products – Fuel, refined oils
- Clothing & Textiles – Apparel, footwear, and fabric materials
- Appliances & Consumer Goods – Refrigerators, washing machines, and home goods
- Beer & Alcoholic Beverages – Mexico is the top supplier of beer to the U.S.
- Aerospace Components – Parts for planes and satellites

🇨🇳 U.S. Imports from China
- Electronics & Computers – Smartphones, laptops, semiconductors, networking equipment
- Machinery & Industrial Equipment – Manufacturing tools, robots, and heavy equipment
- Furniture & Home Goods – Sofas, tables, decorations
- Toys, Games & Sporting Equipment – The majority of U.S. toy imports come from China
- Clothing & Footwear – Shoes, apparel, and textiles
- Plastics & Rubber Products – Packaging, auto parts, medical supplies
- Pharmaceuticals & Medical Equipment – Generic drugs, masks, syringes
-Steel & Aluminum Products – Components for construction and manufacturing
- Auto Parts – Batteries, electronics, interior components
- Chemicals & Fertilizers – Essential for agriculture and industry
I suspect this will cause inflation although it did not in his first term.

And even if it’s a bluff, Trump already signed his own pact with Canada and Mexicon in 2018, which he’s reneging on. So do you think foreign nations are going to trust his word moving forward?

Mexico could be a legit country but they are soooo corrupt. I don’t know how you get rid of their corruption.

I’m also curious. What happened to the wall he was going to build? Why no talk of that now? I’m still waiting.
 
I suspect this will cause inflation although it did not in his first term.

And even if it’s a bluff, Trump already signed his own pact with Canada and Mexicon in 2018, which he’s reneging on. So do you think foreign nations are going to trust his word moving forward?

Mexico could be a legit country but they are soooo corrupt. I don’t know how you get rid of their corruption.

I’m also curious. What happened to the wall he was going to build? Why no talk of that now? I’m still waiting.
Trust me, you’ll survive.
 
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Prices are going to rise, but it will all be Biden’s fault.

Fox News and One America will deliver that news to the followers who will believe every word.
Hahahahahahahahaha! Jesus.

This is the exceptionalism your side celebrates. Give me a single reason why anyone should listen to your side anymore.

 
Here we go. Anyone want to take a pass at explaining how these widespread tariffs are going to help control inflation? I work with a number of manufacturers with production plants in CA and MX and I can tell you that this is not good.

Also, look for you pharmaceuticals (along with a long list of other items) to spike in price.

🇨🇦 U.S. Imports from Canada
- Crude Oil & Petroleum Products – Largest import, crucial for U.S. energy supply
- Vehicles & Auto Parts – Canada is a major supplier for U.S. automakers
- Lumber & Wood Products – Essential for construction and furniture
- Machinery & Industrial Equipment – Includes turbines, engines, and heavy equipment
- Aluminum & Steel – Used in manufacturing, construction, and defense
- Natural Gas – Key for U.S. energy production
- Electrical Equipment – Power distribution components, transformers
- Pharmaceuticals & Medical Equipment – Includes vaccines, surgical tools
- Food & Agricultural Products – Wheat, canola, seafood, dairy products
- Aircraft & Aerospace Parts – Canada’s Bombardier is a major supplier

🇲🇽 U.S. Imports from Mexico
- Vehicles & Auto Parts – A critical supply chain for U.S. carmakers
- Computers & Electronics – Laptops, smartphones, semiconductors
- Machinery & Manufacturing Equipment – Includes industrial tools and robotics
- Medical Devices & Pharmaceuticals – Mexico is a key exporter of medical goods
- Agricultural Products – Avocados, tomatoes, berries, peppers, and tequila
- Oil & Petroleum Products – Fuel, refined oils
- Clothing & Textiles – Apparel, footwear, and fabric materials
- Appliances & Consumer Goods – Refrigerators, washing machines, and home goods
- Beer & Alcoholic Beverages – Mexico is the top supplier of beer to the U.S.
- Aerospace Components – Parts for planes and satellites

🇨🇳 U.S. Imports from China
- Electronics & Computers – Smartphones, laptops, semiconductors, networking equipment
- Machinery & Industrial Equipment – Manufacturing tools, robots, and heavy equipment
- Furniture & Home Goods – Sofas, tables, decorations
- Toys, Games & Sporting Equipment – The majority of U.S. toy imports come from China
- Clothing & Footwear – Shoes, apparel, and textiles
- Plastics & Rubber Products – Packaging, auto parts, medical supplies
- Pharmaceuticals & Medical Equipment – Generic drugs, masks, syringes
-Steel & Aluminum Products – Components for construction and manufacturing
- Auto Parts – Batteries, electronics, interior components
- Chemicals & Fertilizers – Essential for agriculture and industry
Who gives a shit. We don't need Canada nor Mexico. They need us. Period.

As long as the re-re is out of DC and your party is NOT in charge, we are going to be just fine.

Go have a day out with the family and enjoy the next 12 years of Republican domination.
 
The offset in energy costs? Please explain.
I have said it several times. Trump will ease restrictions on domestic energy and that will lower energy costs as he allows producers to access leases that make the acquisition of these resources cheaper. If the proposed moves lower oil, gas and natural gas by roughly 10% overall it would more than offset said tariffs. Energy costs are built into all aspects of our economy. This would affect all levels of products and services in the US including all the countries not mentioned in the post.
These tariffs are his attempt to get leverage to renegotiate deals, gain ground in other areas, and to show strength. These are almost always temporary in nature unless it involves sanctions.
 
I have said it several times. Trump will ease restrictions on domestic energy and that will lower energy costs as he allows producers to access leases that make the acquisition of these resources cheaper. If the proposed moves lower oil, gas and natural gas by roughly 10% overall it would more than offset said tariffs. Energy costs are built into all aspects of our economy. This would affect all levels of products and services in the US including all the countries not mentioned in the post.
These tariffs are his attempt to get leverage to renegotiate deals, gain ground in other areas, and to show strength. These are almost always temporary in nature unless it involves sanctions.
To hear the Dems on this issue you’d think Trump is adding tariffs for the sole reason of increasing cost snd inflation. They can’t think past the initial decision to see the long term gain down the road.
 
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Didn’t happen during his first term. One (of many) reasons is because of the offset in energy costs which drives down the costs of EVERYTHING.

This is all your side has. Do yourself a favor and just relax. There’s nothing you can do, and you will benefit from a lot of things he’s doing.
This. Drill baby drill we’ll help offset a lot. Like you say, the left needs stop being cucks to other countries and realize that in order for us to take a big step forward we have to stopped getting raped by all these other countries.

But I mean I guess we could keep sending 50 million in condoms to Gaza, that’ll help things state-side.
 
I have said it several times. Trump will ease restrictions on domestic energy and that will lower energy costs as he allows producers to access leases that make the acquisition of these resources cheaper. If the proposed moves lower oil, gas and natural gas by roughly 10% overall it would more than offset said tariffs. Energy costs are built into all aspects of our economy. This would affect all levels of products and services in the US including all the countries not mentioned in the post.
These tariffs are his attempt to get leverage to renegotiate deals, gain ground in other areas, and to show strength. These are almost always temporary in nature unless it involves sanctions.
Makes too much sense. People that get pissed about tariffs are the same that want billion spent on researching endangered, poisonous frogs in the Amazon.
 
I have said it several times. Trump will ease restrictions on domestic energy and that will lower energy costs as he allows producers to access leases that make the acquisition of these resources cheaper. If the proposed moves lower oil, gas and natural gas by roughly 10% overall it would more than offset said tariffs. Energy costs are built into all aspects of our economy. This would affect all levels of products and services in the US including all the countries not mentioned in the post.
These tariffs are his attempt to get leverage to renegotiate deals, gain ground in other areas, and to show strength. These are almost always temporary in nature unless it involves sanctions.
Big "if" right there. And of course you're assuming the producers will pass this 10% all the way through to the consumer.

This. Drill baby drill we’ll help offset a lot. Like you say, the left needs stop being cucks to other countries and realize that in order for us to take a big step forward we have to stopped getting raped by all these other countries.

But I mean I guess we could keep sending 50 million in condoms to Gaza, that’ll help things state-side.
Show me where we've ever sent 50 million in condoms to Gaza.

Makes too much sense. People that get pissed about tariffs are the same that want billion spent on researching endangered, poisonous frogs in the Amazon.
Know anybody who wants this? I sure don't.
 
Here we go. Anyone want to take a pass at explaining how these widespread tariffs are going to help control inflation? I work with a number of manufacturers with production plants in CA and MX and I can tell you that this is not good.

Also, look for you pharmaceuticals (along with a long list of other items) to spike in price.

🇨🇦 U.S. Imports from Canada
- Crude Oil & Petroleum Products – Largest import, crucial for U.S. energy supply
- Vehicles & Auto Parts – Canada is a major supplier for U.S. automakers
- Lumber & Wood Products – Essential for construction and furniture
- Machinery & Industrial Equipment – Includes turbines, engines, and heavy equipment
- Aluminum & Steel – Used in manufacturing, construction, and defense
- Natural Gas – Key for U.S. energy production
- Electrical Equipment – Power distribution components, transformers
- Pharmaceuticals & Medical Equipment – Includes vaccines, surgical tools
- Food & Agricultural Products – Wheat, canola, seafood, dairy products
- Aircraft & Aerospace Parts – Canada’s Bombardier is a major supplier

🇲🇽 U.S. Imports from Mexico
- Vehicles & Auto Parts – A critical supply chain for U.S. carmakers
- Computers & Electronics – Laptops, smartphones, semiconductors
- Machinery & Manufacturing Equipment – Includes industrial tools and robotics
- Medical Devices & Pharmaceuticals – Mexico is a key exporter of medical goods
- Agricultural Products – Avocados, tomatoes, berries, peppers, and tequila
- Oil & Petroleum Products – Fuel, refined oils
- Clothing & Textiles – Apparel, footwear, and fabric materials
- Appliances & Consumer Goods – Refrigerators, washing machines, and home goods
- Beer & Alcoholic Beverages – Mexico is the top supplier of beer to the U.S.
- Aerospace Components – Parts for planes and satellites

🇨🇳 U.S. Imports from China
- Electronics & Computers – Smartphones, laptops, semiconductors, networking equipment
- Machinery & Industrial Equipment – Manufacturing tools, robots, and heavy equipment
- Furniture & Home Goods – Sofas, tables, decorations
- Toys, Games & Sporting Equipment – The majority of U.S. toy imports come from China
- Clothing & Footwear – Shoes, apparel, and textiles
- Plastics & Rubber Products – Packaging, auto parts, medical supplies
- Pharmaceuticals & Medical Equipment – Generic drugs, masks, syringes
-Steel & Aluminum Products – Components for construction and manufacturing
- Auto Parts – Batteries, electronics, interior components
- Chemicals & Fertilizers – Essential for agriculture and industry
Got to try something different. We have already seen the trainwreck dem economic policies. It may hurt in the beginning. Even Trump has said this, but he thinks what will come out of the other side will be worth some short term pain. He will try to keep the pain to a minimum in other areas, but if they work the benefits will certainly outweigh short term inflation. We have seen what drunken spending and complete incompetence look like from the left. If it doesn’t work, you can crow a little. Until you remember again what a colossal f up dem policies became to the working class. Totally changed your voting base it was so bad. And not for the better.

I mean damn will, isn’t it a novel concept to see a president take questions and admit this will come with short term issues. Not pretend all is well, then say he wouldn’t change a thing. This is a massive reach. Considering where your party is at the moment. I get it.



There is always bartending.
 
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Here we go. Anyone want to take a pass at explaining how these widespread tariffs are going to help control inflation? I work with a number of manufacturers with production plants in CA and MX and I can tell you that this is not good.

Also, look for you pharmaceuticals (along with a long list of other items) to spike in price.

🇨🇦 U.S. Imports from Canada
- Crude Oil & Petroleum Products – Largest import, crucial for U.S. energy supply
- Vehicles & Auto Parts – Canada is a major supplier for U.S. automakers
- Lumber & Wood Products – Essential for construction and furniture
- Machinery & Industrial Equipment – Includes turbines, engines, and heavy equipment
- Aluminum & Steel – Used in manufacturing, construction, and defense
- Natural Gas – Key for U.S. energy production
- Electrical Equipment – Power distribution components, transformers
- Pharmaceuticals & Medical Equipment – Includes vaccines, surgical tools
- Food & Agricultural Products – Wheat, canola, seafood, dairy products
- Aircraft & Aerospace Parts – Canada’s Bombardier is a major supplier

🇲🇽 U.S. Imports from Mexico
- Vehicles & Auto Parts – A critical supply chain for U.S. carmakers
- Computers & Electronics – Laptops, smartphones, semiconductors
- Machinery & Manufacturing Equipment – Includes industrial tools and robotics
- Medical Devices & Pharmaceuticals – Mexico is a key exporter of medical goods
- Agricultural Products – Avocados, tomatoes, berries, peppers, and tequila
- Oil & Petroleum Products – Fuel, refined oils
- Clothing & Textiles – Apparel, footwear, and fabric materials
- Appliances & Consumer Goods – Refrigerators, washing machines, and home goods
- Beer & Alcoholic Beverages – Mexico is the top supplier of beer to the U.S.
- Aerospace Components – Parts for planes and satellites

🇨🇳 U.S. Imports from China
- Electronics & Computers – Smartphones, laptops, semiconductors, networking equipment
- Machinery & Industrial Equipment – Manufacturing tools, robots, and heavy equipment
- Furniture & Home Goods – Sofas, tables, decorations
- Toys, Games & Sporting Equipment – The majority of U.S. toy imports come from China
- Clothing & Footwear – Shoes, apparel, and textiles
- Plastics & Rubber Products – Packaging, auto parts, medical supplies
- Pharmaceuticals & Medical Equipment – Generic drugs, masks, syringes
-Steel & Aluminum Products – Components for construction and manufacturing
- Auto Parts – Batteries, electronics, interior components
- Chemicals & Fertilizers – Essential for agriculture and industry
Boy look at all those good jobs that we will be importing also!
 
For those who think this post or other concerns are just TDS, the National Home Builders Association’s sent a letter to Trump yesterday looking for an exemption for building materials because the price of construction will skyrocket.

The Walk Street Journal had an editorial explaining high tariffs as poor policy.

We all better hope this is all just a negotiation game because a trade war will cause significant inflation. It’s Econ 101.

 
Here we go. Anyone want to take a pass at explaining how these widespread tariffs are going to help control inflation? I work with a number of manufacturers with production plants in CA and MX and I can tell you that this is not good.

Also, look for you pharmaceuticals (along with a long list of other items) to spike in price.

🇨🇦 U.S. Imports from Canada
- Crude Oil & Petroleum Products – Largest import, crucial for U.S. energy supply
- Vehicles & Auto Parts – Canada is a major supplier for U.S. automakers
- Lumber & Wood Products – Essential for construction and furniture
- Machinery & Industrial Equipment – Includes turbines, engines, and heavy equipment
- Aluminum & Steel – Used in manufacturing, construction, and defense
- Natural Gas – Key for U.S. energy production
- Electrical Equipment – Power distribution components, transformers
- Pharmaceuticals & Medical Equipment – Includes vaccines, surgical tools
- Food & Agricultural Products – Wheat, canola, seafood, dairy products
- Aircraft & Aerospace Parts – Canada’s Bombardier is a major supplier

🇲🇽 U.S. Imports from Mexico
- Vehicles & Auto Parts – A critical supply chain for U.S. carmakers
- Computers & Electronics – Laptops, smartphones, semiconductors
- Machinery & Manufacturing Equipment – Includes industrial tools and robotics
- Medical Devices & Pharmaceuticals – Mexico is a key exporter of medical goods
- Agricultural Products – Avocados, tomatoes, berries, peppers, and tequila
- Oil & Petroleum Products – Fuel, refined oils
- Clothing & Textiles – Apparel, footwear, and fabric materials
- Appliances & Consumer Goods – Refrigerators, washing machines, and home goods
- Beer & Alcoholic Beverages – Mexico is the top supplier of beer to the U.S.
- Aerospace Components – Parts for planes and satellites

🇨🇳 U.S. Imports from China
- Electronics & Computers – Smartphones, laptops, semiconductors, networking equipment
- Machinery & Industrial Equipment – Manufacturing tools, robots, and heavy equipment
- Furniture & Home Goods – Sofas, tables, decorations
- Toys, Games & Sporting Equipment – The majority of U.S. toy imports come from China
- Clothing & Footwear – Shoes, apparel, and textiles
- Plastics & Rubber Products – Packaging, auto parts, medical supplies
- Pharmaceuticals & Medical Equipment – Generic drugs, masks, syringes
-Steel & Aluminum Products – Components for construction and manufacturing
- Auto Parts – Batteries, electronics, interior components
- Chemicals & Fertilizers – Essential for agriculture and industry
We’ll just have to revisit this in about a year.

Tariffs force change, not higher prices. The market demands will always allow for pricing competitiveness. A market will step up and the countries involved will concede. We are largest economy in the world, the countries involved must concede or risk economic catastrophe.

Change is the point. Harsh reality of international commerce. Too many years of rolling over. The U.S. is the ultimate decision maker again.

This is a good reset.

We’ll revisit the angst over this in a year.
 
We’ll just have to revisit this in about a year.

Tariffs force change, not higher prices. The market demands will always allow for pricing competitiveness. A market will step up and the countries involved will concede. We are largest economy in the world, the countries involved must concede or risk economic catastrophe.

Change is the point. Harsh reality of international commerce. Too many years of rolling over. The U.S. is the ultimate decision maker again.

This is a good reset.

We’ll revisit the angst over this in a year.
The more y'all talk about this, the more clear it is you have NO IDEA how tariffs work or have ever worked.

Especially unnecessary tariffs targeted toward allies that violate a trade deal that Trump himself boastfully negotiated.

I hope you didn't vote for Trump for lower grocery prices because that will not be happening anytime soon with his current economic "policies."

Cultists gonna cult, though, and y'all continue to demonstrate you cannot do any of your own research and believe everything that Trump or his administration puts out there. Sad state of affairs when propaganda is so eagerly believed with zero hesitation by so many.

Look forward to revisiting this in a year.
 
For those who think this post or other concerns are just TDS, the National Home Builders Association’s sent a letter to Trump yesterday looking for an exemption for building materials because the price of construction will skyrocket.

The Walk Street Journal had an editorial explaining high tariffs as poor policy.

We all better hope this is all just a negotiation game because a trade war will cause significant inflation. It’s Econ 101.

Unfortunately most people prefer to just believe anything Trump says instead of economic and industry experts. I have friends in the car industry who have said manufacturers have significant price increases in place if the tariffs come through because, as they always have, tariffs are passed on to consumers in the form of higher prices.
 
Unfortunately most people prefer to just believe anything Trump says instead of economic and industry experts. I have friends in the car industry who have said manufacturers have significant price increases in place if the tariffs come through because, as they always have, tariffs are passed on to consumers in the form of higher prices.
He has 4 years experience to point to. You guys are a trip! Big balls too, considering the shit show we just endured for 4 years.
 
Big "if" right there. And of course you're assuming the producers will pass this 10% all the way through to the consumer.
They do not have to pass all of it on. Just think of any product. There are usually transportation costs that are incurred on so many levels that if a third of the savings is passed on it would be significant.
The same thing happened over the last 4 to 6 years. When fuel costs are high or increase there is no way to avoid increased prices. These increases have far reaching impacts and I think had Biden changed his policy during his term he might have been re-elected.
 
The more y'all talk about this, the more clear it is you have NO IDEA how tariffs work or have ever worked.

Especially unnecessary tariffs targeted toward allies that violate a trade deal that Trump himself boastfully negotiated.

I hope you didn't vote for Trump for lower grocery prices because that will not be happening anytime soon with his current economic "policies."

Cultists gonna cult, though, and y'all continue to demonstrate you cannot do any of your own research and believe everything that Trump or his administration puts out there. Sad state of affairs when propaganda is so eagerly believed with zero hesitation by so many.

Look forward to revisiting this in a year.
I agree we will have to suffer and sacrifice for a while to get this country back on track. I am willing to do whatever it takes to get this country back to being great again.
 
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I’m also curious. What happened to the wall he was going to build? Why no talk of that now? I’m still waiting.
There has been plenty of "talk":

Link - Trump Restarts Border Wall Construction Amid Immigration Policy Overhaul

Furthermore:

  • Executive Orders: President Trump, upon re-election, has issued (link ->) executive orders to resume border wall construction. These orders are part of a broader strategy to enhance (link ->)border security, which also includes reinstating the "Remain in Mexico" policy and deploying (link ->) U.S. troops to the border. These actions were reported to be among the first initiatives taken by President Trump in his new term, indicating a direct policy to continue the wall's construction.
  • Legislative Actions: There has been legislative support to continue and complete the border wall. (link ->) Senator Katie Britt has reintroduced a bill aimed at finishing the wall, suggesting quick legislative moves to back the construction efforts.
  • Administrative Actions: The (link ->) Department of Homeland Security (DHS) under Trump's administration has restarted construction in specific areas. This includes filling gaps in existing sections of the wall, such as in (link ->) Deming, New Mexico, to enhance infrastructure and operational effectiveness.
  • Legal and Financial Context: There have been (link ->) legal constraints and (link ->) financial considerations affecting the wall's construction. A (link ->) federal judge previously blocked the sale of materials intended for the wall, mandating that funds allocated for its construction must be used for that purpose. This ruling has implications for the continuation of the project, ensuring that materials and funds from previous allocations are used as intended.
 
We’ll just have to revisit this in about a year.

Tariffs force change, not higher prices. The market demands will always allow for pricing competitiveness. A market will step up and the countries involved will concede. We are largest economy in the world, the countries involved must concede or risk economic catastrophe.

Change is the point. Harsh reality of international commerce. Too many years of rolling over. The U.S. is the ultimate decision maker again.

This is a good reset.

We’ll revisit the angst over this in a year.
I agree it can’t get better instantly and that’s what some on here want. We are about to go through some pretty rough times but it has to happen to get our economy back on track.
 
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I agree it can’t get better instantly and that’s what some on here want. We are about to go through some pretty rough times but it has to happen to get our economy back on track.
Yep. Trump was voted in as a change agent. He is going to break a lot of shit. I expect most of the breakage will be good and long overdue but some things we will look back on and admit we should of saved that one. 50 years of moving left, left, left, bigger bigger Federal (both Dems and Reps). There will be some collateral damage in turning the ship.
 
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