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Trump regretting picking Vance? More bad news for his VP pick.

With more and more past interviews and back story about Vance are released, if Trump loses in November picking Vance as VP will be the #1 reason. With his past comments about single and childless women coming out the woman vote is going to be key this election.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollyb...vance-struggling-in-polls-after-trump-vp-nod/
Kamala has far worse past views and stances and the MSM is taking them down to protect her. That is so surprising.
 
Rubio was the obvious pick. Other than Haley. She would have sured things up. If she would have even done it.
That's what I was hoping.
He may still win, but after the assassination attempt, he thought he could pick the one who brings in the least amount of undecided voters and still win.
We shall see.
As I have said before, if he would have actually acted like less of a prick after the attempt on his life....(he did for about 10 min), and picked Rubio, the Dems could run Obama himself and the Dems would still lose.
 
That's what I was hoping.
He may still win, but after the assassination attempt, he thought he could pick the one who brings in the least amount of undecided voters and still win.
We shall see.
As I have said before, if he would have actually acted like less of a prick after the attempt on his life....(he did for about 10 min), and picked Rubio, the Dems could run Obama himself and the Dems would still lose.
I could see him making a change. I hope he doesn’t. But it wouldnt surprise me
 
With more and more past interviews and back story about Vance are released, if Trump loses in November picking Vance as VP will be the #1 reason. With his past comments about single and childless women coming out the woman vote is going to be key this election.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollyb...vance-struggling-in-polls-after-trump-vp-nod/
It was an unorthodox pick. I would have picked governor of VA. But, Trump has done lots of things that are unorthodox.
 
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With more and more past interviews and back story about Vance are released, if Trump loses in November picking Vance as VP will be the #1 reason. With his past comments about single and childless women coming out the woman vote is going to be key this election.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollyb...vance-struggling-in-polls-after-trump-vp-nod/
It’s also weird that Vance’s comments are somehow more newsworthy that Kamala letting in 20,000,000 illegal aliens and then they murder Americans. Not sure how the former is a larger story than the latter, but I’m also not in charge of mainstream news rooms. I have my suspicions.
 
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I could see him making a change. I hope he doesn’t. But it wouldnt surprise me
That’s interesting. Even though Biden had all the delegates necessary to win the nomination, they pressured him to step down. It’s not illegal, it’s just unorthodox.

Trump could easily go pick a better Vice President.
 
You're unique. Most black men can't stand Harris.
Lol......lol.....oh really. Please tell me what drove you to make such a claim.

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Vance is basically done if they don't win. That's all I will say. He's so beyond Quayle/Palin levels of absurd.

And I have to say - I feel like many of y'all on here don't know enough about him. The guy is scary. Smart. etc.
 
Vance is basically done if they don't win. That's all I will say. He's so beyond Quayle/Palin levels of absurd.

And I have to say - I feel like many of y'all on here don't know enough about him. The guy is scary. Smart. etc.
The Vance pick makes zero sense until you understand that he is was basically grown in a lab by Peter Thiel, who’s terrifying, and was the first choice of the Federalist Society. Trump thought he had the election in the bag and that it wouldn’t matter that Vance is a huge liability with no charisma and some rather extreme views.
 
The Vance pick makes zero sense until you understand that he is was basically grown in a lab by Peter Thiel, who’s terrifying, and was the first choice of the Federalist Society. Trump thought he had the election in the bag and that it wouldn’t matter that Vance is a huge liability with no charisma and some rather extreme views.
Did you catch the movie about him? Before this was even a possibility really, the movie was made. More fear porn. He is a 40 year old white man. That is his weakness at the moment. We will see if actually being intelligent, and having the ability to speak in coherent sentences starts to help his cause. We have yet to see Kamala and Biden ever do that. Which is amazing. Four weeks ago you thought Biden was sharp as a tack. What will you try to pass off as the truth next. The truth is 9 months ago pelosi wouldn’t endorse her to stay on the ticket as a vp. This is nothing more than trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit.





Let’s protect our democracy!!!
 
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Vance is basically done if they don't win. That's all I will say. He's so beyond Quayle/Palin levels of absurd.

And I have to say - I feel like many of y'all on here don't know enough about him. The guy is scary. Smart. etc.
The only person to poll worse than Quayle is Kamala. Isn’t that ironic? Worst ever polling for a vp. And you guys want to elect her now. Let’s go elect someone who did a shittier job than Dan Quayle and promote her to president. Almost as smart as voting for a vegetable. You guys ought to sit this one out just for that moronic voting behavior. It wasn’t like tons of people weren’t warning you. And you are worried about what we don’t know about Vance. You honestly can’t make a statement that absurd up. Come on nice. You are right. That is absurd.
 
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Did you catch the movie about him? Before this was even a possibility really, the movie was made. More fear porn. He is a 40 year old white man. That is his weakness at the moment. We will see if actually being intelligent, and having the ability to speak in coherent sentences starts to help his cause. We have yet to see Kamala and Biden ever do that. Which is amazing. Four weeks ago you thought Biden was sharp as a tack. What will you try to pass off as the truth next. The truth is 9 months ago pelosi wouldn’t endorse her to stay on the ticket as a vp. This is nothing more than trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit.





Let’s protect our democracy!!!
Opinions like these are not going to help Trump expand his base, which is the only criteria he should have used to evaluate his choice for VP. Vance is going to be a disaster with suburban women and independents.



His reference to “shifting spouses like changing underwear” makes me think of someone. I just can’t quite put my finger on it.

But sure, abused spouses should stay in the marriage for the kids.

 
You guys keep messing with a marine.
"After graduating from Middletown High School in 2003, Vance enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps and served in Iraq as a combat correspondent for six months in late 2005. He was part of the Public Affairs section of the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing and said that his service "taught me how to live like an adult" and that he was "lucky to escape any real fighting"."
 
"After graduating from Middletown High School in 2003, Vance enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps and served in Iraq as a combat correspondent for six months in late 2005. He was part of the Public Affairs section of the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing and said that his service "taught me how to live like an adult" and that he was "lucky to escape any real fighting"."
Oh. So that makes his service less. He still faced the prospect of being shot at. This line of thinking is about as bad as your first post nice. I see you didn’t defend that one. Kind of difficult I know. He was still trained as a marine nice. That isn’t easy by any stretch. Do you know any marines? If you do I suggest you ask how easy that is and what it means. He was still in Iraq. 🤦‍♂️ what has Kamala done?
 
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Opinions like these are not going to help Trump expand his base, which is the only criteria he should have used to evaluate his choice for VP. Vance is going to be a disaster with suburban women and independents.



His reference to “shifting spouses like changing underwear” makes me think of someone. I just can’t quite put my finger on it.

But sure, abused spouses should stay in the marriage for the kids.

Did you listen to the video? More context. That isn’t what he suggested. His point was making divorce easy isn’t good for the children involved.

Agreed. Shifting spouses like people change underwear certainly describes trump. No one is going to believe exactly alike. The fear porn you are trying to use if very telling. There are no facts here. Just passing off these things as factual. He was an abused child. Both he and his sister. They took the brunt of the issues between his parents. That is his perspective. Doesn’t surprise me a bit.

I know right now the media is trying to tear him down. It is important for this to happen for your cause. His perspective comes from a real life issue. Watch the movie. That will explain his response. He worked thru the addiction with his mother. He worked thru the abuse his whole childhood. This is a different kind of supposed Republican experience of youth. His and trump’s are totally different in how they grew up. I would expect him to have several different feelings about things.

Kamala is on video talking about sharing wealth. And you are worried about this. Completely not the American way. Her views have been so radical they put her left of the squad. You say you are a middle of the road guy. Or you used too. Will do you realize how bad your candidate of choice could be for the country?
 
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Opinions like these are not going to help Trump expand his base, which is the only criteria he should have used to evaluate his choice for VP. Vance is going to be a disaster with suburban women and independents.



His reference to “shifting spouses like changing underwear” makes me think of someone. I just can’t quite put my finger on it.

But sure, abused spouses should stay in the marriage for the kids.

First video. Wasn’t there for my first response. What a dastardly thing for him to say. People with children should have more voting power. Because they are adding to the population and continuation of the country. He didn’t say they could only be Republican. This will never happen, but why are you suggesting this is such a horrendous thing to suggest. He isn’t the first person to suggest that. It has been something discussed for decades. It gives every citizen some kind of representation. Again, it won’t happen and hasn’t happened. It is a radical view but not fear porn worthy. Who are you suggesting this will hurt will? Your response could be considered insensitive
 
"After graduating from Middletown High School in 2003, Vance enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps and served in Iraq as a combat correspondent for six months in late 2005. He was part of the Public Affairs section of the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing and said that his service "taught me how to live like an adult" and that he was "lucky to escape any real fighting"."
what's your point? is he less a man because he was not in direct fighing while serviing What's wrong with being lucky? He DID serve. My dad served 4 years in the AF. When he got out, shortly after, Vietnam began. My dad was lucky. And a damn good man!!
 
It’s also weird that Vance’s comments are somehow more newsworthy that Kamala letting in 20,000,000 illegal aliens and then they murder Americans. Not sure how the former is a larger story than the latter, but I’m also not in charge of mainstream news rooms. I have my suspicions.
I think you just gave away the fact that you watch too much Fox News.
 
First video. Wasn’t there for my first response. What a dastardly thing for him to say. People with children should have more voting power. Because they are adding to the population and continuation of the country. He didn’t say they could only be Republican. This will never happen, but why are you suggesting this is such a horrendous thing to suggest. He isn’t the first person to suggest that. It has been something discussed for decades. It gives every citizen some kind of representation. Again, it won’t happen and hasn’t happened. It is a radical view but not fear porn worthy. Who are you suggesting this will hurt will? Your response could be considered insensitive
In one part of your post you say this isnt a "horrendous suggestion" and then you call it radical...so which is becauseit's definitely an unAmerican suggestion.

What about people who can't have kids?
What about people who's kids have died?
What about people having more kids than they can afford...should they have greater voting rights even though they would be a probable finical drain on the state?
What about child abusers?
What about individuals that marry a single parent, should their voting power increase even though it's nto their biological child, and what happens if that couple then divorces?

The mental gymnastics and dishonesty, to make this sound like a totally mainstream idea is the definition of delusional.
 
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First video. Wasn’t there for my first response. What a dastardly thing for him to say. People with children should have more voting power. Because they are adding to the population and continuation of the country. He didn’t say they could only be Republican. This will never happen, but why are you suggesting this is such a horrendous thing to suggest. He isn’t the first person to suggest that. It has been something discussed for decades. It gives every citizen some kind of representation. Again, it won’t happen and hasn’t happened. It is a radical view but not fear porn worthy. Who are you suggesting this will hurt will? Your response could be considered insensitive
Pretty weird/strange position. Not too many people have really made those stupid statements but defend them if you like.
 
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Did you listen to the video? More context. That isn’t what he suggested. His point was making divorce easy isn’t good for the children involved.

Agreed. Shifting spouses like people change underwear certainly describes trump. No one is going to believe exactly alike. The fear porn you are trying to use if very telling. There are no facts here. Just passing off these things as factual. He was an abused child. Both he and his sister. They took the brunt of the issues between his parents. That is his perspective. Doesn’t surprise me a bit.

I know right now the media is trying to tear him down. It is important for this to happen for your cause. His perspective comes from a real life issue. Watch the movie. That will explain his response. He worked thru the addiction with his mother. He worked thru the abuse his whole childhood. This is a different kind of supposed Republican experience of youth. His and trump’s are totally different in how they grew up. I would expect him to have several different feelings about things.

Kamala is on video talking about sharing wealth. And you are worried about this. Completely not the American way. Her views have been so radical they put her left of the squad. You say you are a middle of the road guy. Or you used too. Will do you realize how bad your candidate of choice could be for the country?
So now when I post videos of people expressing opinions, that’s fear porn? I suggested that Vance is not going to be popular with swing voters and then shared of few examples of why I believe that. If that is threatening to you, that’s your issue.

Suggesting that the government should make it more difficult to divorce is not a popular idea and is high hypocrisy when Trump is at the top of the ticket.

And that’s one example of many. As I said before, Vance isn’t charismatic and he is further right than Trump on social issues, which is not going to help him win the election. His appeal is to the people already committed to Trump.
 
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So now when I post videos of people expressing opinions, that’s fear porn? I suggested that Vance is not going to be popular with swing voters and then shared of few examples of why I believe that. If that is threatening to you, that’s your issue.

Suggesting that the government should make it more difficult to divorce is not a popular idea and is high hypocrisy when Trump is at the top of the ticket.

And that’s one example of many. As I said before, Vance isn’t charismatic and he is further right than Trump on social issues, which is not going to help him win the election. His appeal is to the people already committed to Trump.
He’s also a military veteran rags to riches story who married a minority. And he’s very intelligent and well spoken.

My advice would be to challenge whoever to as many debates as possible. Dude has the chops when his entire personality isn’t slave to a media desperate to lift up the Kamala ticket.

Without any real connections, the guy was admitted to the most prestigious law school
In the country. And married a fellow alum. A minority. This is a liberal wet dream of a candidate. Which is why he pisses them off so much.
 
Probably a little overstatement to say no bump. Definitely a bump with enthusiasm hitting laughable levels with media gushing, etc. make no mistake polls have moved in Dems favor. A bit.

But remember the opposite was true a week ago. Last weekend’s media and democrat mutiny had put Biden in an unprecedented low. Had he stayed in the race he probably makes up a few points from that floor.

Bottom line - 50/50 ish on national vote as NYC and LA voters circleJ over Kamala. Needle moves little in electoral college. Blue collar Midwest will not embrace Kamala Harris.
 
Opinions like these are not going to help Trump expand his base, which is the only criteria he should have used to evaluate his choice for VP. Vance is going to be a disaster with suburban women and independents.



His reference to “shifting spouses like changing underwear” makes me think of someone. I just can’t quite put my finger on it.

But sure, abused spouses should stay in the marriage for the kids.

While I don’t love the pic he is a safe choice and will help with the rust belt states. Trump has a solid team and the Dems are helping to expand his base for him. Trump’s poll numbers with minorities is much higher than than last election and growing. His biggest concerns are with illegals voting in mass and voter fraud like before.
 
Pretty weird/strange position. Not too many people have really made those stupid statements but defend them if you like.
The DNC ad people have to be salivating with all the advertisement possibilities presenting Trump and Vance and misogynistic.

Trump only won the white suburban vote in 2020 51%-47%. And he he only earned 44% of the woman vote in 2020 but that was an increase from 39% in 2016. To win in 2024 Trump has to equal or do better than those 2020 numbers. With Vance as his running mate and Trump's past "troubled" relationships with woman...I and the Dem party are all for the GOP and MAGA to double down on these radical ideas.

 
In one part of your post you say this isnt a "horrendous suggestion" and then you call it radical...so which is becauseit's definitely an unAmerican suggestion.

What about people who can't have kids?
What about people who's kids have died?
What about people having more kids than they can afford...should they have greater voting rights even though they would be a probable finical drain on the state?
What about child abusers?
What about individuals that marry a single parent, should their voting power increase even though it's nto their biological child, and what happens if that couple then divorces?

The mental gymnastics and dishonesty, to make this sound like a totally mainstream idea is the definition of delusional.
What is wrong with giving representation to every citizen in the country. That is the main reasoning behind this long time suggestion. It is radical because it has never been done anywhere. But the meaning behind it isn’t dastardly. The reasons you listed are part why it will never happen. It doesn’t mean it is an awful suggestion.

Guess who would be valued by politicians more. Families with more voting power. There will always be outliers like you listed. Don’t think for a minute your side trying every trick in the book to get illegals to vote. I don’t even know if that would be a system giving more likely Republican voters. I assume it would or he probably doesn’t say it. And you wouldn’t be offended by it.

My point sho, is this is something that has been around for a while. There is no ill will behind that like is being portrayed.
 
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What is wrong with giving representation to every citizen in the country. That is the main reasoning behind this long time suggestion. It is radical because it has never been done anywhere. But the meaning behind it isn’t dastardly. The reasons you listed are part why it will never happen. It doesn’t mean it is an awful suggestion.

Guess who would be valued by politicians more. Families with more voting power. There will always be outliers like you listed. Don’t think for a minute your side trying every trick in the book to get illegals to vote. I don’t even know if that would be a system giving more likely Republican voters. I assume it would or he probably doesn’t say it. And you wouldn’t be offended by it.

My point sho, is this is something that has been around for a while. There is no ill will behind that like is being portrayed.
I'm confused...are parents not able to vote now in America because I'm a parent and I vote so who's not being represented here? Please continue the double down...make it make sense.
 
So now when I post videos of people expressing opinions, that’s fear porn? I suggested that Vance is not going to be popular with swing voters and then shared of few examples of why I believe that. If that is threatening to you, that’s your issue.

Suggesting that the government should make it more difficult to divorce is not a popular idea and is high hypocrisy when Trump is at the top of the ticket.

And that’s one example of many. As I said before, Vance isn’t charismatic and he is further right than Trump on social issues, which is not going to help him win the election. His appeal is to the people already committed to Trump.
That is what the media is saying. He worked his way to everything. Was given nothing. Had nothing. Even struggled to eat. Married a minority and found his way into Yale. Joined the military to pay for law school.

He may be further right on some issues, but it isn’t easy to find pubs further left than Trump. That’s always been the thing about him. Unless you are taking manchin or tulsi. Anyone would be further right. There isn’t anyone on your roster further left than Kamala. She is hilariously radical. You think this is what we need right now. That is what got us into this mess. With a president with the lowest approval rating, and not surprising a vp with the worst approval rating of all time. Those are facts n
 
I'm confused...are parents not able to vote now in America because I'm a parent and I vote so who's not being represented here? Please continue the double down...make it make sense.
No. It doesn’t preclude anyone from voting. It literally gives every citizen representation including kids. You vote would count a little more if you had kids. There is no qualification other than that. Horrible right?

Your parents would vote for you until you are of legal age. There isn’t a more inclusive voting rights position than that. Which is funny that you are against it.
 
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