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Trump with 17 point lead in betting odds now. By far the largest he has had.....

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Funny, I got a similar reaction three months before the 2020 election when I suggested there was a good chance that Trump wouldn’t accept the results if he lost. How did that work out?
 
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Funny, I got a similar reaction three months before the 2020 election when I suggested there was a good chance that Trump wouldn’t accept the results if he lost. How did that work out?
Biden was inaugurated, with no delays. I'm not sure Ms. Clinton has ever accepted her loss. I think Gore might have had a Supreme Court case, too. But, I guess those don't count. :(

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Biden was inaugurated, with no delays. I'm not sure Ms. Clinton has ever accepted her loss. I think Gore might have had a Supreme Court case, too. But, I guess those don't count. :(

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Right, after the fake electors plot and the effort to stop certification failed.

You do admit that Trump attempted to stop the certification, right? And you do acknowledge that the entire point of the J6 riot was to prevent certification so that the fake electors could be taken up by the same republicans who refused to certify the election?
 
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Biden was inaugurated, with no delays. I'm not sure Ms. Clinton has ever accepted her loss. I think Gore might have had a Supreme Court case, too. But, I guess those don't count. :(

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Gore lost by 700 something votes in Florida. With a margin that small, of course he asked for a recount. While the recount was occurring, the Bush campaign petitioned the Supreme Court to stop the recount. The Supreme Court ordered the recount stopped. Within an hour, Gore went on TV to concede. On Jan 6, he presided over the Electoral Count.

Now compare that to Trump’s post election actions.
 
Right, after the fake electors plot and the effort to stop certification failed.

You do admit that Trump attempted to stop the certification, right? And you do acknowledge that the entire point of the J6 riot was to prevent certification so that the fake electors could be taken up by the same republicans who refused to certify the election?

Having alternate electors ready to go is not illegal. At all, as history has shown. "Fake Electors! OMG!" is just political grandstanding.

"Plot"? Come on, man. Democrats literally asked the Electoral College to not vote for Trump, despite their obligations.

"OH NO! THAT WAS (D)IFFERENT!!!"

Stop.
 
Gore lost by 700 something votes in Florida. With a margin that small, of course he asked for a recount. While the recount was occurring, the Bush campaign petitioned the Supreme Court to stop the recount. The Supreme Court ordered the recount stopped. Within an hour, Gore went on TV to concede. On Jan 6, he presided over the Electoral Count.

Now compare that to Trump’s post election actions.

Again, you're missing the point. Trump was asking for legal action, too. But, again...it's Trump. So, it's apparently an illegal attempt or something.

Argle Bargle.
 
Again, you're missing the point. Trump was asking for legal action, too. But, again...it's Trump. So, it's apparently an illegal attempt or something.

Argle Bargle.
I didn’t realize that storming the Capitol was legal. Don’t give the BS that Trump didn’t know what was going to happen, Steve Bannon said on his radio show on Jan 5 that all hell was going to break loose on Jan 6. Trump and everyone in his circle knew what was about to happen.
 
I didn’t realize that storming the Capitol was legal. Don’t give the BS that Trump didn’t know what was going to happen, Steve Bannon said on his radio show on Jan 5 that all hell was going to break loose on Jan 6. Trump and everyone in his circle knew what was about to happen.

Sir. Are you paying attention to what I'm referencing? Or trying for some sort of zinger?

(But, again...this is different, apparently)

 
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Sir. Are you paying attention to what I'm referencing? Or trying for some sort of zinger?

(But, again...this is different, apparently)


You have the right to protest peacefully, these were not, so lock the bastards up and throw away the key.

But c'mon Lava, you are a smart guy, the protests you showed were not designed to stop the peaceful transfer of power, which had existed for over 200 years until Trump came along. These were some idiots being violent after Trump had been inaugurated. The Capitol protests were designed by Trump's inner circle to stop the count to buy time to figure out a way to steal an election. There is no comparison to the idiots protesting on inauguration day, and you know it.
 
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You have the right to protest peacefully, these were not, so lock the bastards up and throw away the key.

But c'mon Lava, you are a smart guy, the protests you showed were not designed to stop the peaceful transfer of power, which had existed for over 200 years until Trump came along. These were some idiots being violent after Trump had been inaugurated. The Capitol protests were it it designed by Trump's inner circle to stop the count to buy time to figure out a way to steal an election. There is no comparison to the idiots protesting on inauguration day, and you know it.
Trump's inner circle. Prove it.
 
Trump's election day victory is going to be so GLORIOUS
 
Agreed. If this specific betting market moved in a vacuum without anything else changing will might have a point. But every poll has seemingly moved in one direction in a pretty big way relative to the general non-movement in recent months. And the average of all betting markets is now 60/40. There are several weeks where a lot can happen particularly when trump is involved. But a 60/40 this far out is significant. If nothing changes from a polling standpoint I would expect the 60/40 to be more like 75/25 on Election Day.
Bump for 61/37 margin now.
 
Gore lost by 700 something votes in Florida. With a margin that small, of course he asked for a recount. While the recount was occurring, the Bush campaign petitioned the Supreme Court to stop the recount. The Supreme Court ordered the recount stopped. Within an hour, Gore went on TV to concede. On Jan 6, he presided over the Electoral Count.

Now compare that to Trump’s post election actions.
You forget that after the recount, Bush ended up with even more votes.
 
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You have the right to protest peacefully, these were not, so lock the bastards up and throw away the key.

But c'mon Lava, you are a smart guy, the protests you showed were not designed to stop the peaceful transfer of power, which had existed for over 200 years until Trump came along. These were some idiots being violent after Trump had been inaugurated. The Capitol protests were designed by Trump's inner circle to stop the count to buy time to figure out a way to steal an election. There is no comparison to the idiots protesting on inauguration day, and you know it.
Seems like things would have gone smoother if the Pelosi and the Dems had taken Trumps offer of 10k national guard troops in advance.

I assume he thought his devious plan to overturn the election would work better if nobody brought weapons and the military was there to stop him?
 
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