Just a simple question do you want to put American boots on the ground there or is saving Ukraine about keeping our missile factories running until Ukraine runs out of bodies to kill and the Russians take it anyway? There is no equation where the Russians don't take that country without outside intervention.
I want my country to stand up for democracy against invasions of non-democratic countries all over the world, as they have done for the most part since the end of WW2. That is what those soldiers fought for. If that means I have to die or my soldier age sons, then I believe in it enough for that sacrifice.
I appreciate your stance , it’s a brave and honorable one.
We shouldn't ask a single American soldier to die for "democracy."
Dude we were bonbed. I’m not willing to send my 2 sons to Ukraine. But y’all have at it. Think they are accepting mercenaries now.
Because our interventions have worked so well in Nam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. I'm not some peace at all costs freak. I'm ex military, 82nd Airborne. We got into WWII because Japan attacked us and Germany declared war on us. Hitler was an existential threat to us but he also didn't have nuclear weapons. You want to potentially start WW IIII to save Ukraine because if we went over there, we'd annihilate their ground troops and by necessity have to target locations deep inside Russia. His choices would be withdrawal or escalation, with tactical nukes. There's a place to draw the line with him but invading Russia to save Ukraine is not what we need to be doing. We can keep shipping them arms but he's running out of troops and time. It's a numbers game.
Yeah, you and most others on this thread are indeed supporting Russia. Why? Because you support Trump and Trump obviously supports Russia in the Ukraine war. Why does he support Russia? There are several reasons not the least of which is he has publicly expressed his admiration for Putin.
This is likely the single dumbest post on this board, ever. Good grief, dude. Do you drink bleach in your spare time? Even the worst of the Trump-deranged media wouldn't go this far. You're in Joy Reid-Land.
There is a reason NATO didn’t want Ukraine, they didn’t want to have to fight their war.
Get back to me in four years and we will see who is drinking bleach. At the end of the last election Trump showed who he is on January 6 and the MAGA republicans are still in denial.This is likely the single dumbest post on this board, ever. Good grief, dude. Do you drink bleach in your spare time? Even the worst of the Trump-deranged media wouldn't go this far. You're in Joy Reid-Land.
That's quite an accomplishment.
Did you know that we have nuclear weapons as well? Are you familiar with mutually assured destruction? So no, I am not in favor of placating Putin out of misplaced fear
He could continue down the same path as Biden and the Dems. And there would be no chance to bring everyone to the table. Especially that shithead Putin (see I don’t like him). I don’t know what to tell you if you can’t see Trump is simply trying to bring Putin to the table. 3 options. Stop sending weapons and Ukraine falls quickly. Send weapons and Ukraine dies a slow death. Or negotiate a peace deal. It’s really that simple.
So, you're now advocating that we get in a nuclear tit-for-tat? Are you aware of the the short-range low-yield nuclear weapons that Russia has collected, in violation of multiple treaties, including the INF? Are you also aware that Russia would be willing to use it (per multiple academic/military studies) because we don't have a robust low-yield option?
This in an objectively stupid post, with all due respect.
Again...that's not how it works.
Well, I hope you are right that Trump is trying to bring Putin to the table, but he certainly had a very crude way of doing it by what he did today. He now doesn't need to bring Putin to the table because he has destroyed Zelensky. We'll see what happens in the next few days, but whatever it is it won't be good for Ukraine. The way it stands now is that Putin will achieve his goal that he started with.
Today is the third time Zelensky has done this. Only difference is we all saw it. And I’m sure Trump is even more frustrated. Zelensky will back with a little more humility
Well, time has already told...Trump has a long list of non-supportive Russia actions....which is why your post was largely inaccurate.
We might have actually gotten something done.
Wow, that is the limits of your understanding of global military engagement? Fascinating
There is a very long history of avoiding crossing the ultimate line by engaging in the sort of proxy actions that we have been conducting in Ukraine. This isn’t radical at all. I suspect I don’t have to break this down for you.
