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Well, it appears it's a dark day for America. Freedom is gone...

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None of us will be able to sleep with a porn star, pay her not to talk and cover up the payment ever again.
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I don’t think watching half the nation gleefully cheer a corrupt judge and a corrupt prosecutor obtain a guilty verdict on 34 corrupt charges against the man the other half of the nation is voting for needs much elaboration.

It shows we are not “one nation under God”.

It’s really amazing how the Hart Cellar act destroyed the country within 60 years.
 
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I don’t think watching half the nation gleefully cheer a corrupt judge and a corrupt prosecutor obtain a guilty verdict on 34 corrupt charges against the man the other half of the nation is voting for needs much elaboration.

It shows we are not “one people under God”.

It’s really amazing how the Hart Cellar act destroyed the country within 60 years.
It's funny you mention that, because this tribalism all started with Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority in the early eighties. Before that you found a lot of differing views on lot of things in both parties.
 
I don’t think watching half the nation gleefully cheer a corrupt judge and a corrupt prosecutor obtain a guilty verdict on 34 corrupt charges against the man the other half of the nation is voting for needs much elaboration.

It shows we are not “one people under God”.

It’s really amazing how the Hart Cellar act destroyed the country within 60 years.
Was Jan. 6th a dark day? Or just some people having fun?
 
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I’m a libertarian and didn’t how I would vote in this election. After watching the politics play out in all of this, I may actually vote for Trump this time. Still a long ways to go until November and that could change.
 
I’m a libertarian and didn’t how I would vote in this election. After watching the politics play out in all of this, I may actually vote for Trump this time. Still a long ways to go until November and that could change.
I certainly wouldn't vote for someone to run the country because I felt they were wronged in the court system. I would have to think they actually were the best choice. But to each their own.
 
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I’m a libertarian and didn’t how I would vote in this election. After watching the politics play out in all of this, I may actually vote for Trump this time. Still a long ways to go until November and that could change.
are you a progressive, big government libertarian?
 
I bet mostly everyone could get away with that provided they weren’t a threat to the democrats.
It's a shame. Especially to go down for it over Stormy Daniels. Never had even heard of her before. Figured if it was gonna happen it'd be Jenna Jameson or one of the ones that had crossed over into the mainstream.
 
I don’t think watching half the nation gleefully cheer a corrupt judge and a corrupt prosecutor obtain a guilty verdict on 34 corrupt charges against the man the other half of the nation is voting for needs much elaboration.

It shows we are not “one nation under God”.

It’s really amazing how the Hart Cellar act destroyed the country within 60 years.
Is God pro-felony when the felonies are committed in a pre-election effort to suppress the fact that you got a BJ from a pornstar while your third wife was home nursing your newborn?

What’s are you even talking about?
 
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I can't wait for the day the Libertarian Party runs a quality candidate. It's truly amazing how a party with such popular, common-sense ideals always manages to find the biggest dimwits to run.

Until that day comes, I'll be voting for Trump (and future GOP candidates).
Who is a Libertarian that you would vote for?
 
Who is a Libertarian that you would vote for?

Do you mean registered Libertarians, or those outside the party who share libertarian ideals?

At either rate, I can't think of anyone unless someone finds a way to resurrect Barry Goldwater or Murray Rothbard.
 
It's funny you mention that, because this tribalism all started with Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority in the early eighties. Before that you found a lot of differing views on lot of things in both parties.
Yes the moral majority was the Christian tribe, the same tribe that settled and built this nation. There had never been any other tribe before the 80s when the immigration policies began rearing its ugly head.
 
So you only know two politicians (one former) who fit that category?

Seems like a broad generalization to make with such a limited sample size.
I don't know who runs on the Libertarian ticket. You, yourself said they are mostly goofy. I gave you two that I know supposedly lean Libertarian. That's kind of my point. I know two.....and they are/were Republican. The other ones that actually run as Libertarian, you say are goofy. What am I missing here? What Libertarian would you like to see? It was a legit question. It wasn't meant to be argumentative.
 
Yes the moral majority was the Christian tribe, the same tribe that settled and built this nation. There had never been any other tribe before the 80s when the immigration policies began rearing its ugly head.
The Christian tribe is far more than evangelicals. Methodists, Episcopalians, Catholics, Presbyterians, etc. are not all in one box politically speaking.
 
The Christian tribe is far more than evangelicals. Methodists, Episcopalians, Catholics, Presbyterians, etc. are not all in one box politically speaking.
alright. Without getting on google and reading an article written by someone else, what exactly did he get convicted of? What was the actual crime? What you people don't understand, is that this is a bad day for america. Former president who is the republican nominee is getting prosecuted by a far left Judge and prosecutor. We are turning into Venezuela. If Biden did whatever the left says Trump did, i would not want him on trial. That is not a good thing for America. This sets a precedent that will destroy America from within. Mark my words. From here on out, whoever is in control will just prosecute their opponent every single time.
 
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Falsifying business records in the 1st degree 34 times (with the intent to commit another crime)
which business records were proven to be falsified? Did the jury just listen to what Cohen had to say and took his word for it? How can a witness, who went to prison for lying under oath, become such a key piece to a trial? Was there ever full on video/audio evidence of Trump falsifying records? What about the other thing he's in court for about classified documents? Did Biden not have classified documents in his garage and in his glove compartment of his corvette in Delaware? Why is that not an issue? The whole thing that people are upset about is the double standard. What about the 30 people close to the clintons who have "committed suicide". I dont have evidence they were murdered, but should we now go to trial so I can find someone who says they were then we can just convict the Clintons? There's no proof in this case and everyone knows it. Again, if Biden or anyone was on trial for similar stuff I would not approve of that. Sad day for America to go after your political opponenets because your candidate can't even say his own name without taking 200 mg of adderall.
 
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which business records were proven to be falsified? Did the jury just listen to what Cohen had to say and took his word for it? How can a witness, who went to prison for lying under oath, become such a key piece to a trial? Was there ever full on video/audio evidence of Trump falsifying records? What about the other thing he's in court for about classified documents? Did Biden not have classified documents in his garage and in his glove compartment of his corvette in Delaware? Why is that not an issue? The whole thing that people are upset about is the double standard. What about the 30 people close to the clintons who have "committed suicide". I dont have evidence they were murdered, but should we now go to trial so I can find someone who says they were then we can just convict the Clintons? There's no proof in this case and everyone knows it. Again, if Biden or anyone was on trial for similar stuff I would not approve of that. Sad day for America to go after your political opponenets because your candidate can't even say his own name without taking 200 mg of adderall.
Invoices, checks and ledgers. Read the verdict form.

Also...this:

 
Invoices, checks and ledgers. Read the verdict form.

Also...this:

Hahahahah. Are you acting like the New York Times is an unbiased news source? You are lost. When a jury gets together and most people are on one side, they typically end up getting the last juror to agree. Yes, we see hung juries a lot, but the power of 11 people trying to convince 1 person is very powerful... Waste of time here. Dems will find a way to rig the election again, but at least the Dawgs will win the natty.
 
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Hahahahah. Are you acting like the New York Times is an unbiased news source? You are lost.
Did you even see that one juror gets all their news from truth social and even they didn't vote not guilty on one single count? All you need is one juror...ONE...and even that person was like "yeah...that dude's super guilty".
 
Did you even see that one juror gets all their news from truth social and even they didn't vote not guilty on one single count? All you need is one juror...ONE...and even that person was like "yeah...that dude's super guilty".
yeah read my entire message. Regardless of what anyone thinks, this is biting America in the ass. From here on out, each side is going to take the other one to the courthouse. This is not how elections should be run.
 
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Did you even see that one juror gets all their news from truth social and even they didn't vote not guilty on one single count? All you need is one juror...ONE...and even that person was like "yeah...that dude's super guilty".
Another interesting thing here too: So no matter what, you're just going to believe whatever the jurors say on where they get their news? Lots of "he said she said" in this entire sham.
 
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Another interesting thing here too: So no matter what, you're just going to believe whatever the jurors say on where they get their news? Lots of "he said she said" in this entire sham.
I think it speaks volumes that given the limited background provided on said juror, that juror voted guilty on all 34 counts.

It's counter to the narrative that it was a liberal jury.
 
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