What do you believe in?

[PotimusWillie]

I believe in the sanctity of life as God states in His Word.
I believe we were created in God’s image, male and female, as God states in His Word.
I believe in marriage, as described in God’s Word, as an example of Christ’s relationship to His Church.
I believe a man leaves his mother and father and a wife leaves her mother and father, and marries his wife and they become one.
I believe there is no amount of works or good deeds a man can do to earn Heaven.

So my beliefs and conviction is based on this premise. It is why no amount of political maneuvering, no amount of empathy or feelings can alter my belief in God’s Word. I do not believe I have the right to dictate the rules to God. And believe that is an eternal decision.

So that is my base. That is my point of reference. We can argue and disagree, that is both our right.

I laid it out there. Nothing to hide.

So what do you believe in? What’s your base?

 

[Dawgfan1966]

I believe in the sanctity of life as God states in His Word.
I believe we were created in God’s image, male and female, as God states in His Word.
I believe in marriage, as described in God’s Word, as an example of Christ’s relationship to His Church.
I believe a man leaves his mother and father and a wife leaves her mother and father, and marries his wife and they become one.
I believe there is no amount of works or good deeds a man can do to earn Heaven.

So my beliefs and conviction is based on this premise. It is why no amount of political maneuvering, no amount of empathy or feelings can alter my belief in God’s Word. I do not believe I have the right to dictate the rules to God. And believe that is an eternal decision.

So that is my base. That is my point of reference. We can argue and disagree, that is both our right.

I laid it out there. Nothing to hide.

So what do you believe in? What’s your base?

I agree on all points you made. Based on the rock solid principles of the word of our( all of us) God. There are many that are trying to test God or to play God with their agenda to force upon us.

 

[Eastmandawg]

I believe in the sanctity of life as God states in His Word.
I believe we were created in God’s image, male and female, as God states in His Word.
I believe in marriage, as described in God’s Word, as an example of Christ’s relationship to His Church.
I believe a man leaves his mother and father and a wife leaves her mother and father, and marries his wife and they become one.
I believe there is no amount of works or good deeds a man can do to earn Heaven.

So my beliefs and conviction is based on this premise. It is why no amount of political maneuvering, no amount of empathy or feelings can alter my belief in God’s Word. I do not believe I have the right to dictate the rules to God. And believe that is an eternal decision.

So that is my base. That is my point of reference. We can argue and disagree, that is both our right.

I laid it out there. Nothing to hide.

So what do you believe in? What’s your base?

Waiting to hear what @jbpayne32 SAYZ…….

 

[PotimusWillie]

Waiting to hear what @jbpayne32 SAYZ…….

What he says is his opinion on the matter.

 

[Eastmandawg]

What he says is his opinion on the matter.

Ah….

 

[freespeechisfree]

I've stared into the abyss. It stared back into me.

Until he returns, we're f***ed as a species.

Bo HaShem.

 

[PotimusWillie]

I've stared into the abyss. It stared back into me.

Until he returns, we're f***ed as a species.

Bo HaShem.

That is actually pretty funny

 

[PotimusWillie]

Ah….

Just being fair. Everyone has an opinion.

 

[PotimusWillie]

I agree on all points you made. Based on the rock solid principles of the word of our( all of us) God. There are many that are trying to test God or to play God with their agenda to force upon us.

Never understood how professed Christians feel God can be dictated to.

 

[KirbyIsMyDog]

What he says is his opinion on the matter.

I believe there could be a god, but likely everything anyone on earth believes is completely wrong, if that god exists

 

[freespeechisfree]

That is actually pretty funny

It wasn't meant as a joke.

 

[PotimusWillie]

It wasn't meant as a joke.

Poor choice of words for my reply. I didn’t mean funny as in Ha ha.

 

[freespeechisfree]

Poor choice of words for my reply. I didn’t mean funny as in Ha ha.

No offense taken brother.

Bible Gateway passage: John 4:22 - Complete Jewish Bible

You people don’t know what you are worshipping; we worship what we do know, because salvation comes from the Jews.

www.biblegateway.com

Bo HaShem.

 

[elevator]

I believe in the sanctity of life as God states in His Word.
I believe we were created in God’s image, male and female, as God states in His Word.
I believe in marriage, as described in God’s Word, as an example of Christ’s relationship to His Church.
I believe a man leaves his mother and father and a wife leaves her mother and father, and marries his wife and they become one.
I believe there is no amount of works or good deeds a man can do to earn Heaven.

So my beliefs and conviction is based on this premise. It is why no amount of political maneuvering, no amount of empathy or feelings can alter my belief in God’s Word. I do not believe I have the right to dictate the rules to God. And believe that is an eternal decision.

So that is my base. That is my point of reference. We can argue and disagree, that is both our right.

I laid it out there. Nothing to hide.

So what do you believe in? What’s your base?

Um god never actually said a damn thing about anything. Just a bunch of ancient dudes trying to control other folks wrote shit down and fools took it as gospel. I believe, if there is anything resembling a god, he could not give less of a damn about what happens here.

 

[Dawgfan1966]

Um god never actually said a damn thing about anything. Just a bunch of ancient dudes trying to control other folks wrote shit down and fools took it as gospel. I believe, if there is anything resembling a god, he could not give less of a damn about what happens here.

That is a sad outlook on life. I’m sorry you feel that way. There is a better way than to believe in the Inherent good of man ( which we have seen mostly the bad side of). I believe we are heading to a much better place after this life if we accept Jesus into our hearts as our savior. It’s the best deal of anyone’s life.

 

[elevator]

That is a sad outlook on life. I’m sorry you feel that way. There is a better way than to believe in the Inherent good of man ( which we have seen mostly the bad side of). I believe we are heading to a much better place after this life if we accept Jesus into our hearts as our savior. It’s the best deal of anyone’s life.

And the billions who don't believe in Jesus cause they aren't Christians?
There is only one outlook on life and it is called reality.
If you consider oblivion a better place than this I won't argue the point, as I have not experienced it, except prior to being born, which I don't recall off hand.

 

[Boost Assendahm]

I believe in God. I believe He has many names & many forms. I believe He Judges us throughout our lives and how we respond to the good & bad in that life on earth. I believe we are free to make choices for ourselves and to live with every consequence of each choice.

I struggle to believe the loving & forgiving parts of my Christian upbringing. Death bed confessions, that yield total forgiveness make no sense to me. I believe God loves us in spite of our mistakes. In spite of repeatedly & knowingly making bad choices and hurting others? I cannot & do not believe all is forgotten or forgiven. from His perspective.

I believe we are and will be Judged, not endlessly & unconditionally Forgiven. Act right. Do right. Live right. Pretty simple.

 

[Dawgfan1966]

And the billions who don't believe in Jesus cause they aren't Christians?
There is only one outlook on life and it is called reality.
If you consider oblivion a better place than this I won't argue the point, as I have not experienced it, except prior to being born, which I don't recall off hand.

Long time , not seeing your post. Welcome back. That is your opinion and …. Well that is your opinion.

 

[wwforest]

I believe in God. I believe He has many names & many forms. I believe He Judges us throughout our lives and how we respond to the good & bad in that life on earth. I believe we are free to make choices for ourselves and to live with every consequence of each choice.

I struggle to believe the loving & forgiving parts of my Christian upbringing. Death bed confessions, that yield total forgiveness make no sense to me. I believe God loves us in spite of our mistakes. In spite of repeatedly & knowingly making bad choices and hurting others? I cannot & do not believe all is forgotten or forgiven. from His perspective.

I believe we are and will be Judged, not endlessly & unconditionally Forgiven. Act right. Do right. Live right. Pretty simple.

What's interesting about God is he is able to forgive and forget. Humans can forgive but we don't forget. We don't have that ability. God does.

You are correct that God does not have unconditional love. I taught on this just yesterday in church. God's love is conditional and the Bible tells us that it is.

One other interesting item. Neither Jesus nor the disciples EVER talked about God's love to unbelievers. Only to Believers. The entire book of Acts is about the church growing and increasing in the number of Believers and the word "love" is not in Acts once. And it is an evangelistic book. What is taught is repent, believe, be baptized and receive the Holy Spirit. That is the normal Christian birth.

 

[Whosyodawgy]

I believe in the sanctity of life as God states in His Word.
I believe we were created in God’s image, male and female, as God states in His Word.
I believe in marriage, as described in God’s Word, as an example of Christ’s relationship to His Church.
I believe a man leaves his mother and father and a wife leaves her mother and father, and marries his wife and they become one.
I believe there is no amount of works or good deeds a man can do to earn Heaven.

So my beliefs and conviction is based on this premise. It is why no amount of political maneuvering, no amount of empathy or feelings can alter my belief in God’s Word. I do not believe I have the right to dictate the rules to God. And believe that is an eternal decision.

So that is my base. That is my point of reference. We can argue and disagree, that is both our right.

I laid it out there. Nothing to hide.

So what do you believe in? What’s your base?

I know that I asked God to let me know Him and when I did that, I meant it and wanted it more than anything else in this life.
I know that He did reveal His presence to me.
I know that He was here all along and it was me who was just not seeing what was right in front of me.
I believe the DAWGS have a decent chance to threepeat.
I believe some people are not meant to ever know Him. Why He did that I have no clue.
I believe that when He returns, it will be from the inside and not out of the air.
There is a huge difference in "know" and "believe".

 

[PotimusWillie]

Um god never actually said a damn thing about anything. Just a bunch of ancient dudes trying to control other folks wrote shit down and fools took it as gospel. I believe, if there is anything resembling a god, he could not give less of a damn about what happens here.

OK. So why are you trying to push your beliefs on us?

 

[PotimusWillie]

What's interesting about God is he is able to forgive and forget. Humans can forgive but we don't forget. We don't have that ability. God does.

You are correct that God does not have unconditional love. I taught on this just yesterday in church. God's love is conditional and the Bible tells us that it is.

One other interesting item. Neither Jesus nor the disciples EVER talked about God's love to unbelievers. Only to Believers. The entire book of Acts is about the church growing and increasing in the number of Believers and the word "love" is not in Acts once. And it is an evangelistic book. What is taught is repent, believe, be baptized and receive the Holy Spirit. That is the normal Christian birth.

I contend you are incorrect in your interpretation of God’s love. God’s love is agape. His love for His creation is unconditional. What God does is discipline His creation. He has stated clearly what is sin. Sin will separate man from God. Sin and God cannot exist in the same space.

While we cannot work our way to Heaven, He speaks very clearly, from Genesis, through the Old Testament prophesies, to New Testament witnessed miracles and teachings that point to Christ as the Messiah. And in that, He speaks clearly that the only way to the Father is through Him. And the He backed this declaration by taking the sins of all man, on His shoulders, was beaten, died, and was resurrected. He was the blood sacrifice.

For all of man. Christ directed His disciples to spread the Gospel to all creation. The thief on the cross was not a believer until Christ forgave him and told him he would be in Heaven with Him. Paul converted Roman soldiers.

His love for man, His creation, is unconditional. Consequence and discipline, as with our children, isn’t a question of conditional love. We sin. And then we don’t follow His direction of placing Him before all others idols in our life, there is consequence. He provides us an out. It is our decision to deny Him and the consequence is death.

You discipline your children because you love your children. When you spank your son, you don’t hate your son. You spank him because you love him enough to raise him understanding consequence of behavior and actions.

Denying God is an eternal decision. With that, a consequence. His love for His creation was enough to place His Son in the merciless hands of man, so His love is unconditional. Our decisions are conditional. And denying Him has conditional consequence.

As I see it scripturally.

 

[wwforest]

I contend you are incorrect in your interpretation of God’s love. God’s love is agape. His love for His creation is unconditional. What God does is discipline His creation. He has stated clearly what is sin. Sin will separate man from God. Sin and God cannot exist in the same space.

While we cannot work our way to Heaven, He speaks very clearly, from Genesis, through the Old Testament prophesies, to New Testament witnessed miracles and teachings that point to Christ as the Messiah. And in that, He speaks clearly that the only way to the Father is through Him. And the He backed this declaration by taking the sins of all man, on His shoulders, was beaten, died, and was resurrected. He was the blood sacrifice.

For all of man. Christ directed His disciples to spread the Gospel to all creation. The thief on the cross was not a believer until Christ forgave him and told him he would be in Heaven with Him. Paul converted Roman soldiers.

His love for man, His creation, is unconditional. Consequence and discipline, as with our children, isn’t a question of conditional love. We sin. And then we don’t follow His direction of placing Him before all others idols in our life, there is consequence. He provides us an out. It is our decision to deny Him and the consequence is death.

You discipline your children because you love your children. When you spank your son, you don’t hate your son. You spank him because you love him enough to raise him understanding consequence of behavior and actions.

Denying God is an eternal decision. With that, a consequence. His love for His creation was enough to place His Son in the merciless hands of man, so His love is unconditional. Our decisions are conditional. And denying Him has conditional consequence.

As I see it scripturally.

I can agree with most of what you say. But the unconditional love of God is not in scripture anywhere. Out of 35,000 verses 30 mention God's love. 30 also mention that God hates.

God loves those who fear him.
God loves those who keep his commandments.
2 Samuel 7:15 but my steadfast love will not depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away from before you.
Romans 1 says man gave God up so God gave man up.

To me all those are conditional. As Believers we understand God's love. But unbelievers cannot understand the love of God. That is why neither Jesus nor the apostles ever talked about God's love to nonbelievers.

 

[elevator]

I believe in God. I believe He has many names & many forms. I believe He Judges us throughout our lives and how we respond to the good & bad in that life on earth. I believe we are free to make choices for ourselves and to live with every consequence of each choice.

I struggle to believe the loving & forgiving parts of my Christian upbringing. Death bed confessions, that yield total forgiveness make no sense to me. I believe God loves us in spite of our mistakes. In spite of repeatedly & knowingly making bad choices and hurting others? I cannot & do not believe all is forgotten or forgiven. from His perspective.

I believe we are and will be Judged, not endlessly & unconditionally Forgiven. Act right. Do right. Live right. Pretty simple.

Don't see any god caring about what happens on this tiny spec of a planet lost in the vastness of probably multiple universes. Don't deny there could be some benefit to living a life by the Golden rule, if only to allow one to pass on without pangs of guilt and remorse. But, I do not rule out any possibility that can be imagined as far as an afterlife. I just don't believe in one, And absolutely nobody has any proof at all that there is one. Belief in words written by man in books means nada.

 

[elevator]

I can agree with most of what you say. But the unconditional love of God is not in scripture anywhere. Out of 35,000 verses 30 mention God's love. 30 also mention that God hates.

God loves those who fear him.
God loves those who keep his commandments.
2 Samuel 7:15 but my steadfast love will not depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away from before you.
Romans 1 says man gave God up so God gave man up.

To me all those are conditional. As Believers we understand God's love. But unbelievers cannot understand the love of God. That is why neither Jesus nor the apostles ever talked about God's love to nonbelievers.

LOL. All you're doing is quoting a bunch of ancient dudes in ancient texts claiming to be god's words. It's just silly, but hey if it keeps you sane have at it.

 

[elevator]

I contend you are incorrect in your interpretation of God’s love. God’s love is agape. His love for His creation is unconditional. What God does is discipline His creation. He has stated clearly what is sin. Sin will separate man from God. Sin and God cannot exist in the same space.

While we cannot work our way to Heaven, He speaks very clearly, from Genesis, through the Old Testament prophesies, to New Testament witnessed miracles and teachings that point to Christ as the Messiah. And in that, He speaks clearly that the only way to the Father is through Him. And the He backed this declaration by taking the sins of all man, on His shoulders, was beaten, died, and was resurrected. He was the blood sacrifice.

For all of man. Christ directed His disciples to spread the Gospel to all creation. The thief on the cross was not a believer until Christ forgave him and told him he would be in Heaven with Him. Paul converted Roman soldiers.

His love for man, His creation, is unconditional. Consequence and discipline, as with our children, isn’t a question of conditional love. We sin. And then we don’t follow His direction of placing Him before all others idols in our life, there is consequence. He provides us an out. It is our decision to deny Him and the consequence is death.

You discipline your children because you love your children. When you spank your son, you don’t hate your son. You spank him because you love him enough to raise him understanding consequence of behavior and actions.

Denying God is an eternal decision. With that, a consequence. His love for His creation was enough to place His Son in the merciless hands of man, so His love is unconditional. Our decisions are conditional. And denying Him has conditional consequence.

As I see it scripturally.

LOL. So an all seeing and all knowing god forgets. Which is it for god's sake? He either knows all, or forgets some. The more you guys spout verses the more confusing it gets.

God's love is unconditional? Have you ever read the old testament? I thought god cannot abide sinners, or non-believers. That sounds like conditional in every sense of the word.

 

[Whosyodawgy]

I believe in the sanctity of life as God states in His Word.
I believe we were created in God’s image, male and female, as God states in His Word.
I believe in marriage, as described in God’s Word, as an example of Christ’s relationship to His Church.
I believe a man leaves his mother and father and a wife leaves her mother and father, and marries his wife and they become one.
I believe there is no amount of works or good deeds a man can do to earn Heaven.

So my beliefs and conviction is based on this premise. It is why no amount of political maneuvering, no amount of empathy or feelings can alter my belief in God’s Word. I do not believe I have the right to dictate the rules to God. And believe that is an eternal decision.

So that is my base. That is my point of reference. We can argue and disagree, that is both our right.

I laid it out there. Nothing to hide.

So what do you believe in? What’s your base?

 

[Smacdawg]

OK. So why are you trying to push your beliefs on us?

Well…in fairness you did ask what beliefs everyone had? And you are stating your beliefs “pushing” them.

Now before there is a misunderstanding, I share many of the beliefs you do. Just saying if you ask for open statements of belief, accept their rights to state them. I may not agree with him but…

 

[mitchelldawg]

I believe mostly in "The Golden Rule".

I believe there is probably a "Creator", or "Prime Mover" if you will.

I believe "God" is Love, and when you feel love, you feel the presence of God.

I believe religions are man-made, because they are man-made.

I believe that God would not create a situation that just because you were born in another part of the world, you would be sent to eternal punishment because of your religious beliefs.

I believe (and see it daily), that some people that claim to be "Christians" think they have God on their side and it gives them the right to judge and ridicule others. And say the most hateful and disgusting things to others just because they dare to not think like them. The self righteousness are truly awful, and most un-God like. If there is a hell, they are the first in line.....IMO.

I believe the mind of God is unknowable and since time began, man has always claimed to know the unknowable....how convenient that "God made man in his own image". A little arrogant if you ask me.

Lastly, these are just MY beliefs, and I do believe that living life by "The Golden Rule" and being honest, is a great way to live and makes the world a better place.

Thanks PW for this thread. I have thought about it for a few days before posting.
PW and I agree on very little on most things, but I consider him a "chat friend" of mine, and value that friendship.

 

[Boost Assendahm]

Don't see any god caring about what happens on this tiny spec of a planet lost in the vastness of probably multiple universes. Don't deny there could be some benefit to living a life by the Golden rule, if only to allow one to pass on without pangs of guilt and remorse. But, I do not rule out any possibility that can be imagined as far as an afterlife. I just don't believe in one, And absolutely nobody has any proof at all that there is one. Belief in words written by man in books means nada.

I understand & respect that perspective. Our inability to even imagine something coming from nothing proves that humans have no languages that can define It. We label things for the sake of reference, but we actually define few of our collective “mysteries of life.” All of the world(s) around us is pinned on a “big bang” theory? That to me is more like a randomly imagined cartoon special effects than a sensible & understandable “definition.

Life is good. You’re a good man. What a start for each day, perfectly defined or not.

 

[Reddawg4429]

I understand & respect that perspective. Our inability to even imagine something coming from nothing proves that humans have no languages that can define It. We label things for the sake of reference, but we actually define few of our collective “mysteries of life.” All of the world(s) around us is pinned on a “big bang” theory? That to me is more like a randomly imagined cartoon special effects than a sensible & understandable “definition.

Life is good. You’re a good man. What a start for each day, perfectly defined or not.

I always enjoy reading your posts. You should do so more often.

 

[Eastmandawg]

I believe mostly in "The Golden Rule".

I believe there is probably a "Creator", or "Prime Mover" if you will.

I believe "God" is Love, and when you feel love, you feel the presence of God.

I believe religions are man-made, because they are man-made.

I believe that God would not create a situation that just because you were born in another part of the world, you would be sent to eternal punishment because of your religious beliefs.

I believe (and see it daily), that some people that claim to be "Christians" think they have God on their side and it gives them the right to judge and ridicule others. And say the most hateful and disgusting things to others just because they dare to not think like them. The self righteousness are truly awful, and most un-God like. If there is a hell, they are the first in line.....IMO.

I believe the mind of God is unknowable and since time began, man has always claimed to know the unknowable....how convenient that "God made man in his own image". A little arrogant if you ask me.

Lastly, these are just MY beliefs, and I do believe that living life by "The Golden Rule" and being honest, is a great way to live and makes the world a better place.

Thanks PW for this thread. I have thought about it for a few days before posting.
PW and I agree on very little on most things, but I consider him a "chat friend" of mine, and value that friendship.

well thought out and said & I really agree with this:

"I believe (and see it daily), that some people that claim to be "Christians" think they have God on their side and it gives them the right to judge and ridicule others. And say the most hateful and disgusting things to others just because they dare to not think like them. The self righteousness are truly awful, and most un-God like. If there is a hell, they are the first in line".

I really hate it when people push their religion on me……or, tell me there is not one. It seems like even some in "this here" place have decided to do it, a HUGE turnoff.......usually I will just walk away. if I want to hear about it, I'll ask or I will go to church.

FWIW, I definitely believe there is a God, but won’t push it on anyone.

again, well said Mitchell.

 

[elevator]

I understand & respect that perspective. Our inability to even imagine something coming from nothing proves that humans have no languages that can define It. We label things for the sake of reference, but we actually define few of our collective “mysteries of life.” All of the world(s) around us is pinned on a “big bang” theory? That to me is more like a randomly imagined cartoon special effects than a sensible & understandable “definition.

Life is good. You’re a good man. What a start for each day, perfectly defined or not.

There has never been total nothingness, as far as can be determined. It just would not have been something recognizable by phyics at this point. The Big Bang is an over used expression that makes it easy to mock. The case for multiple universes is gaining in credence.

I appreciate your posts and perspective.

 

[elevator]

Well…in fairness you did ask what beliefs everyone had? And you are stating your beliefs “pushing” them.

Now before there is a misunderstanding, I share many of the beliefs you do. Just saying if you ask for open statements of belief, accept their rights to state them. I may not agree with him but…

Guess he forgot he asked and started the whole thing.

 

[elevator]

well thought out and said & I really agree with this:

"I believe (and see it daily), that some people that claim to be "Christians" think they have God on their side and it gives them the right to judge and ridicule others. And say the most hateful and disgusting things to others just because they dare to not think like them. The self righteousness are truly awful, and most un-God like. If there is a hell, they are the first in line".

I really hate it when people push their religion on me……or, tell me there is not one. It seems like even some in "this here" place have decided to do it, a HUGE turnoff.......usually I will just walk away. if I want to hear about it, I'll ask or I will go to church.

FWIW, I definitely believe there is a God, but won’t push it on anyone.

again, well said Mitchell.

FWIW, I have no idea if there is a god. And I never "push" that on anyone. If asked, as in the OP, I will opine that I don't believe there is a god. Once that is stated then all the condemnation about libs, perverts, sin, god's wrath etc starts.

 

[Eastmandawg]

FWIW, I have no idea if there is a god. And I never "push" that on anyone. If asked, as in the OP, I will opine that I don't believe there is a god. Once that is stated then all the condemnation about libs, perverts, sin, god's wrath etc starts.

Of course not, no one knows for sure until they are “dead & gone”…….and U may not know then, you may just turn to dust (not exist).

It’s all a personal belief……and I do not need anyone telling me what to believe, judging me, preaching to me, disparaging me or offering their unsolicited advice/opinion……all of that is insulting & offensive.

Just live your own life, I’m certainly not going to tell U/others how to live it….and don’t tell me how to live mine.

Let it fall where it falls.

 

[Whosyodawgy]

I believe mostly in "The Golden Rule".

I believe there is probably a "Creator", or "Prime Mover" if you will.

I believe "God" is Love, and when you feel love, you feel the presence of God.

I believe religions are man-made, because they are man-made.

I believe that God would not create a situation that just because you were born in another part of the world, you would be sent to eternal punishment because of your religious beliefs.

I believe (and see it daily), that some people that claim to be "Christians" think they have God on their side and it gives them the right to judge and ridicule others. And say the most hateful and disgusting things to others just because they dare to not think like them. The self righteousness are truly awful, and most un-God like. If there is a hell, they are the first in line.....IMO.

I believe the mind of God is unknowable and since time began, man has always claimed to know the unknowable....how convenient that "God made man in his own image". A little arrogant if you ask me.

Lastly, these are just MY beliefs, and I do believe that living life by "The Golden Rule" and being honest, is a great way to live and makes the world a better place.

Thanks PW for this thread. I have thought about it for a few days before posting.
PW and I agree on very little on most things, but I consider him a "chat friend" of mine, and value that friendship.

It is true that God is love. Gary Wright had a song about it in the 70's called Love Is Alive.
He is the omnipotent power, outside and forever beyond what many in science want to define as our universe while clinging to the big bang theory as the origin. It is a way for them to put borders on forever. That is a word even the most intelligent of humans cannot comprehend. It seems to me that fear plays a part in that. It is understandable.

Here's why.
Surrender is scary. What if God made you one of those nerds in black pants and white shirt on a bicycle? What if you were required to give up watching college football and attend meetings with disgusting old women? Most of all, what if you were not in control anymore? The you that has secrets you aren't proud of, just like the rest of us, fears that uncertainty. Shame is the sharpest tool in satan's toolbox and he knows how to use it.

Here's what I'm getting at Mitchell. There is a small difference in "knowing of Him" and "knowing Him". I am absolutely sure you know He is there. You already have some trust in the fact that He is the ultimate power because you know that His mind and understanding surpasses what we can know. The difference in where you are now and where you can be is very simple. It is only four words, "Lord dwell in me".
Scary? You bet. But it is the difference in being on the outside looking in and being on the inside looking out. There is no in between.

Some people were just not born to know. You see them on this very site with their slippery reasons and mocking of believers. You are not one of them.

 

[Whosyodawgy]

I believe mostly in "The Golden Rule".

I believe there is probably a "Creator", or "Prime Mover" if you will.

I believe "God" is Love, and when you feel love, you feel the presence of God.

I believe religions are man-made, because they are man-made.

I believe that God would not create a situation that just because you were born in another part of the world, you would be sent to eternal punishment because of your religious beliefs.

I believe (and see it daily), that some people that claim to be "Christians" think they have God on their side and it gives them the right to judge and ridicule others. And say the most hateful and disgusting things to others just because they dare to not think like them. The self righteousness are truly awful, and most un-God like. If there is a hell, they are the first in line.....IMO.

I believe the mind of God is unknowable and since time began, man has always claimed to know the unknowable....how convenient that "God made man in his own image". A little arrogant if you ask me.

Lastly, these are just MY beliefs, and I do believe that living life by "The Golden Rule" and being honest, is a great way to live and makes the world a better place.

Thanks PW for this thread. I have thought about it for a few days before posting.
PW and I agree on very little on most things, but I consider him a "chat friend" of mine, and value that friendship.

Check this out bro.

 

[mitchelldawg]

Check this out bro.

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Thanks.

 

[Whosyodawgy]

Thanks.

No problem. I just do what I'm told.