What do you believe in?

[KirbyIsMyDog]

The difference in where you are now and where you can be is very simple. It is only four words, "Lord dwell in me".
Scary? You bet. But it is the difference in being on the outside looking in and being on the inside looking out. There is no in between.

Not sure what part of ''people who don't believe in your Christian God are both comfortable in their beliefs and don't want to be preached to'', you're not quite getting. Christians just can't help themselves in preaching to non believers. We're good. We were mostly likely raised Christian, have evaluated Christianity as a religion and decided we want no part of it.

I will only speak of my personal belief, but I have absolutely zero fear that I am wrong in not believing in your specific version of God. If God does in fact exist, then I have no doubt Christians haven't cornered the market on the correct version of God.

 

[elevator]

It is true that God is love. Gary Wright had a song about it in the 70's called Love Is Alive.
He is the omnipotent power, outside and forever beyond what many in science want to define as our universe while clinging to the big bang theory as the origin. It is a way for them to put borders on forever. That is a word even the most intelligent of humans cannot comprehend. It seems to me that fear plays a part in that. It is understandable.

Here's why.
Surrender is scary. What if God made you one of those nerds in black pants and white shirt on a bicycle? What if you were required to give up watching college football and attend meetings with disgusting old women? Most of all, what if you were not in control anymore? The you that has secrets you aren't proud of, just like the rest of us, fears that uncertainty. Shame is the sharpest tool in satan's toolbox and he knows how to use it.

Here's what I'm getting at Mitchell. There is a small difference in "knowing of Him" and "knowing Him". I am absolutely sure you know He is there. You already have some trust in the fact that He is the ultimate power because you know that His mind and understanding surpasses what we can know. The difference in where you are now and where you can be is very simple. It is only four words, "Lord dwell in me".
Scary? You bet. But it is the difference in being on the outside looking in and being on the inside looking out. There is no in between.

Some people were just not born to know. You see them on this very site with their slippery reasons and mocking of believers. You are not one of them.

LOL. I've seen enough of your posts over the years to know you are not living up to any christian ideals...."disgusting old women and nerds" is that a biblical quote? So you just happen to be one of the chosen ones "born to know"? That seems pretty slippery to me.

And what is so tough about forever...it never ends. How tough is that? Kinda like spending a weekend with you I imagine.

 

[elevator]

No problem. I just do what I'm told.

Try some shrooms for all that fear and guilt. It'll do more for you than all that babbling about god.

 

[PotimusWillie]

I believe mostly in "The Golden Rule".

I believe there is probably a "Creator", or "Prime Mover" if you will.

I believe "God" is Love, and when you feel love, you feel the presence of God.

I believe religions are man-made, because they are man-made.

I believe that God would not create a situation that just because you were born in another part of the world, you would be sent to eternal punishment because of your religious beliefs.

I believe (and see it daily), that some people that claim to be "Christians" think they have God on their side and it gives them the right to judge and ridicule others. And say the most hateful and disgusting things to others just because they dare to not think like them. The self righteousness are truly awful, and most un-God like. If there is a hell, they are the first in line.....IMO.

I believe the mind of God is unknowable and since time began, man has always claimed to know the unknowable....how convenient that "God made man in his own image". A little arrogant if you ask me.

Lastly, these are just MY beliefs, and I do believe that living life by "The Golden Rule" and being honest, is a great way to live and makes the world a better place.

Thanks PW for this thread. I have thought about it for a few days before posting.
PW and I agree on very little on most things, but I consider him a "chat friend" of mine, and value that friendship.

Same back to ya mitchell!

 

[blackpug6]

I believe in the sanctity of life as God states in His Word.
I believe we were created in God’s image, male and female, as God states in His Word.
I believe in marriage, as described in God’s Word, as an example of Christ’s relationship to His Church.
I believe a man leaves his mother and father and a wife leaves her mother and father, and marries his wife and they become one.
I believe there is no amount of works or good deeds a man can do to earn Heaven.

So my beliefs and conviction is based on this premise. It is why no amount of political maneuvering, no amount of empathy or feelings can alter my belief in God’s Word. I do not believe I have the right to dictate the rules to God. And believe that is an eternal decision.

So that is my base. That is my point of reference. We can argue and disagree, that is both our right.

I laid it out there. Nothing to hide.

So what do you believe in? What’s your base?

there is No Base.
my listen plays nice
upon defending a non-point...

 

[blackpug6]

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[Whosyodawgy]

Not sure what part of ''people who don't believe in your Christian God are both comfortable in their beliefs and don't want to be preached to'', you're not quite getting. Christians just can't help themselves in preaching to non believers. We're good. We were mostly likely raised Christian, have evaluated Christianity as a religion and decided we want no part of it.

I will only speak of my personal belief, but I have absolutely zero fear that I am wrong in not believing in your specific version of God. If God does in fact exist, then I have no doubt Christians haven't cornered the market on the correct version of God.

Yes lou, I know it bothers you. Like acid on your flesh.

 

[Whosyodawgy]

LOL. I've seen enough of your posts over the years to know you are not living up to any christian ideals...."disgusting old women and nerds" is that a biblical quote? So you just happen to be one of the chosen ones "born to know"? That seems pretty slippery to me.

And what is so tough about forever...it never ends. How tough is that? Kinda like spending a weekend with you I imagine.

Why does it bother you? I wasn't even talking to you.

 

[KirbyIsMyDog]

Yes lou, I know it bothers you. Like acid on your flesh.

Lay off the whiskey, buddy, until you can type

 

[Whosyodawgy]

Lay off the whiskey, buddy, until you can type

You seethe with loathing ... and it's only beginning. Forever is beyond time.

 

[KirbyIsMyDog]

You seethe with loathing ... and it's only beginning. Forever is beyond time.

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Lauren Daigle isn’t your image in Christ. She actually likes gay people

 

[Boom MFer Dawg]

I believe in the sanctity of life as God states in His Word.
I believe we were created in God’s image, male and female, as God states in His Word.
I believe in marriage, as described in God’s Word, as an example of Christ’s relationship to His Church.
I believe a man leaves his mother and father and a wife leaves her mother and father, and marries his wife and they become one.
I believe there is no amount of works or good deeds a man can do to earn Heaven.

So my beliefs and conviction is based on this premise. It is why no amount of political maneuvering, no amount of empathy or feelings can alter my belief in God’s Word. I do not believe I have the right to dictate the rules to God. And believe that is an eternal decision.

So that is my base. That is my point of reference. We can argue and disagree, that is both our right.

I laid it out there. Nothing to hide.

So what do you believe in? What’s your base?

I believe people dumb down the Bible to use only what helps them to prove thier point as if God almighty said it himself. Taken out of context, used incorrectly and ignore what they don’t understand or want to use. It happens all the time. What about divorce being a sin, gluttony? The Bible says to kill those who commit adultery, kill non Christian’s, if someone attacks you don’t defend yourself. Greed, sloth, Wrath, idolatry? Lust?

Yet today so many focus on abortion and homosexuals. How ironic is that. Homosexual wasn’t even in the Greek language, never showed up in the Bible in until the 40’s? At least that’s what I read. What about slave owners using the Bible as as tool to enforce compliance? What about Saul? I Iove how the Jesus always used a broken person to show off his glory and grace.

I think we are flawed humans who have done a horrendous job of carrying out the simplest of requests from Jesus.. love one another. Maybe in Sundays for an hour, but I’m always miffed how rude people are in the church parking lot after the service, they won’t let another car out before they go.

I often think does God look down on us, in anger? Frustration? Those are human emotions, I can only imagine he celebrates the smallest of victories. Gratitude…

What was your question again? I hope this country, this state, the Dawgvent, even our families, can find away to accept our own flaws and shortcomings so we can accept others as they are. Have a good night.

PS, I always enjoy the levity and truth in this fictional scene.

 

[Whosyodawgy]

Lauren Daigle isn’t your image in Christ. She actually likes gay people

LOL
You cifers are experts on everything.

 

[elevator]

Why does it bother you? I wasn't even talking to you.

Probably because you're a hypocritical ass, and they always tend to bother me.

 

[elevator]

I believe people dumb down the Bible to use only what helps them to prove thier point as if God almighty said it himself. Taken out of context, used incorrectly and ignore what they don’t understand or want to use. It happens all the time. What about divorce being a sin, gluttony? The Bible says to kill those who commit adultery, kill non Christian’s, if someone attacks you don’t defend yourself. Greed, sloth, Wrath, idolatry? Lust?

Yet today so many focus on abortion and homosexuals. How ironic is that. Homosexual wasn’t even in the Greek language, never showed up in the Bible in until the 40’s? At least that’s what I read. What about slave owners using the Bible as as tool to enforce compliance? What about Saul? I Iove how the Jesus always used a broken person to show off his glory and grace.

I think we are flawed humans who have done a horrendous job of carrying out the simplest of requests from Jesus.. love one another. Maybe in Sundays for an hour, but I’m always miffed how rude people are in the church parking lot after the service, they won’t let another car out before they go.

I often think does God look down on us, in anger? Frustration? Those are human emotions, I can only imagine he celebrates the smallest of victories. Gratitude…

What was your question again? I hope this country, this state, the Dawgvent, even our families, can find away to accept our own flaws and shortcomings so we can accept others as they are. Have a good night.

PS, I always enjoy the levity and truth in this fictional scene.

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Jesus, Mohamed, Budda, Krishna all had some insightful wisdom in their messages, unfortunately, as you point out, their followers rarely take it to heart.

 

[elevator]

Yes lou, I know it bothers you. Like acid on your flesh.

More like a huge pain in the ass.

 

[elevator]

You seethe with loathing ... and it's only beginning. Forever is beyond time.

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Time is an imaginary construct to deal with space. So in essence there is no forever. However infinity is a possibility unless space actually curves back on itself. Then the can of worms really gets interesting.

 

[Whosyodawgy]

More like a huge pain in the ass.

Have another shroom and relax. Your blood pressure is spiking.

 

[Whosyodawgy]

Time is an imaginary construct to deal with space. So in essence there is no forever. However infinity is a possibility unless space actually curves back on itself. Then the can of worms really gets interesting.

The worms are in your tortured noggin. The answer is much simpler than the desperate attempts to find it out there.
All this venom because I tried to turn one of your slaves who is tired of living a lie.

 

[elevator]

I believe people dumb down the Bible to use only what helps them to prove thier point as if God almighty said it himself. Taken out of context, used incorrectly and ignore what they don’t understand or want to use. It happens all the time. What about divorce being a sin, gluttony? The Bible says to kill those who commit adultery, kill non Christian’s, if someone attacks you don’t defend yourself. Greed, sloth, Wrath, idolatry? Lust?

Yet today so many focus on abortion and homosexuals. How ironic is that. Homosexual wasn’t even in the Greek language, never showed up in the Bible in until the 40’s? At least that’s what I read. What about slave owners using the Bible as as tool to enforce compliance? What about Saul? I Iove how the Jesus always used a broken person to show off his glory and grace.

I think we are flawed humans who have done a horrendous job of carrying out the simplest of requests from Jesus.. love one another. Maybe in Sundays for an hour, but I’m always miffed how rude people are in the church parking lot after the service, they won’t let another car out before they go.

I often think does God look down on us, in anger? Frustration? Those are human emotions, I can only imagine he celebrates the smallest of victories. Gratitude…

What was your question again? I hope this country, this state, the Dawgvent, even our families, can find away to accept our own flaws and shortcomings so we can accept others as they are. Have a good night.

PS, I always enjoy the levity and truth in this fictional scene.

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Hope some of our local biblical experts will chime in to answer the President's questions.

 

[elevator]

Have another shroom and relax. Your blood pressure is spiking.

I'd use a doobie for that, but you don't cause a blip in my BP. Too many huge pain in the asses to worry about their nonsense.

 

[Whosyodawgy]

I'd use a doobie for that, but you don't cause a blip in my BP. Too many huge pain in the asses to worry about their nonsense.

Yep. Sounds like you got it all figured out. LOL
I was a druggie too, once upon a time.

 

[elevator]

The worms are in your tortured noggin. The answer is much simpler than the desperate attempts to find it out there.
All this venom because I tried to turn one of your slaves who is tired of living a lie.

A physics lesson is venom? At least I have something going on in my noggin.
And my slaves are all young, female and beyond turning because of my amazing evil powers, which makes me irresistible to them.

 

[Whosyodawgy]

A physics lesson is venom? At least I have something going on in my noggin.
And my slaves are all young, female and beyond turning because of my amazing evil powers, which makes me irresistible to them.

The weed must be pretty good. You're delusional.

 

[elevator]

Yep. Sounds like you got it all figured out. LOL

Have very little figured out actually, except life is all about love of family, friends and pets. No god needed for that. Beyond that, I have a lot of questions and few answers. But, it is rewarding to use one's intuition and imagination to try to understand and appreciate what science has shown us about the nature of reality to this point. Quantum physics has opened up incredible, exciting possibilities for the future. There is some evidence that the speed of light is not the barrier it was once considered to be, which would open up the universe in a way scarcely imaginable. The only drawback to exceeding the speed of light is that one's hat keeps blowing off.

 

[elevator]

The weed must be pretty good. You're delusional.

Pretty good? C'mon Man, I grow it myself in my garden and nurture and cure it to a sublime perfection. Several of the guys in the band I play with tell me it inspires a creativity almost...dare I say it, godlike.

 

[Whosyodawgy]

Have very little figured out actually, except life is all about love of family, friends and pets. No god needed for that. Beyond that, I have a lot of questions and few answers. But, it is rewarding to use one's intuition and imagination to try to understand and appreciate what science has shown us about the nature of reality to this point. Quantum physics has opened up incredible, exciting possibilities for the future. There is some evidence that the speed of light is not the barrier it was once considered to be, which would open up the universe in a way scarcely imaginable. The only drawback to exceeding the speed of light is that one's hat keeps blowing off.

Well, disregarding your aversion to the fact that we could not be here if there was not supreme life from which ours springs, does current theory indicate that matter can indeed travel at the speed of light without some degree of disintegration or transformation?
Also, you do realize that the state of Georgia still has horrible pot laws which hold that over 1oz is a felony with MINIMUM 1 year in the joint and a max of 10? It is sick, but it is what it is.

 

[elevator]

Well, disregarding your aversion to the fact that we could not be here if there was not supreme life from which ours springs, does current theory indicate that matter can indeed travel at the speed of light without some degree of disintegration or transformation?
Also, you do realize that the state of Georgia still has horrible pot laws which hold that over 1oz is a felony with MINIMUM 1 year in the joint and a max of 10? It is sick, but it is what it is.

Life needs no supreme being...that is pure conjecture not a fact. All that is needed is a combination of certain elements. They are one kind on earth, carbon based, but life could flourish across the universe with an almost limitless combination of chemical elements.

Exceeding the speed of light does transform matter, if it is done without cancelling out gravity around whatever vehicle one is traveling in. kinda like the aliens have figured out.

Georgia's pot laws have no effect here in Mexico where I have lived for almost nine years. Jalisco, the state I live in, has no penalties for possessing or growing small amounts. The weather is near perfect and I can grow all year if I wish.

 

[Whosyodawgy]

Life needs no supreme being...that is pure conjecture not a fact. All that is needed is a combination of certain elements. They are one kind on earth, carbon based, but life could flourish across the universe with an almost limitless combination of chemical elements.

Exceeding the speed of light does transform matter, if it is done without cancelling out gravity around whatever vehicle one is traveling in. kinda like the aliens have figured out.

Georgia's pot laws have no effect here in Mexico where I have lived for almost nine years. Jalisco, the state I live in, has no penalties for possessing or growing small amounts. The weather is near perfect and I can grow all year if I wish.

I am familiar with Jalisco. I had a condo in Vallarta and my biz partner and I had a company boat there for a very long time. It was a 60' teak decked schooner. We had that sucker built in Taiwan and sailed it back to San Diego. I musta been out of my mind. But we were both special operators in VN and we figured what the hell, we shouldn't still be alive anyway so might as well go for it.

 

[elevator]

I am familiar with Jalisco. I had a condo in Vallarta and my biz partner and I had a company boat there for a very long time. It was a 60' teak decked schooner. We had that sucker built in Taiwan and sailed it back to San Diego. I musta been out of my mind. But we were both special operators in VN and we figured what the hell, we shouldn't still be alive anyway so might as well go for it.

Good for you.