Just because I am tired of hearing all the Bidenists scream insurrection……..

[Boost Assendahm]

How do you take over the capital building of a country, to take over the government, which is guarded by the most complex protection system in the world, with a police force that is trained as well as any enforcement organization in the world……. without a gun? Without any weapons?

Don’t let the terrorists know about the secret front door you can push the mall cop out of the way with.

If we can’t lock the front door of the most secure building in the world, we’re screwed on the border.

Of course, in both instances, the people in charge know exactly what they are doing.

January 6th was impossible…….unless you had help.

No guns
No drugs
No alcohol
No tear gas
No tasers
Men, women
Nothing set on fire
Nothing stolen
No hostages

……….. and they picked up after themselves

A powerful insurrection, brought to you by The Hallmark Channel.

If we still had Mr. Rogers to play the lead role in the movie follow-up. It could show him pushing past the Capital security and take over the country.

You know, real life.

January 6th was impossible unless orchestrated to allow.

Never a doubt about it. A demonstration turned riotous, yes, but ONLY because it was managed to look awful, and to achieve little other than shock value in selected video segments. Early on, we were encouraged to actually (seriously?) believe Bison Head Boy was the spiritual leader of Placard Guerrilla Shock Troops trained for years in Cuba for this very “insurrection” & horrid invasion to follow.

David Koresh’s women & children were more dangerous. And with that embarrassment of Big Government ineptitude, most every guy in a pickup flying the “American Flag” became type cast as white supremacists bent on killing or hypnotizing all the nice people of the world. God forgive us ALL for being so gullible and so eager to buy into anything that smacks of being smothered, mothered & covered from cradle to grave.

We earn all of this crap. ALL of it, for blindly & numbly electing & reelecting the SAME clowns & clones term after term after term and LAUGHABLY expecting better results. Children being lead by the narcissistic child like. We deserve the shit cauldron WE have allowed to fester & boil over. Own it! Do something about it. Throw out ALL incumbents. Make lobbying (foreign & domestic) a felony. Require our leadership at all levels to have a 50/50 balance between business & legal professionals. Make career politicians a joke. The longer you’re in office, the less your compensation from all sources must be. Term limits are a must, no matter whose FEELINGS it hurts. And balance in backgrounds & experience is a must for every elected office at every level of government. Easy fix, Quick fix. Cheap fix.

 

[Boost Assendahm]

You’ve cited studies several times studies that do not in any way examine the hack and release operation requested by Trump and run by the Russians. That’s the interference I’ve been focused on during all these discussions with you and it’s the interference that I believe may have had an impact on the outcome.

Let’s see if we can agree on a few things.

In any prior presidential campaign, a major candidate caught on tape laughing about the assertion that being a celebrity like himself meant he was free to grab women by their p**sy would have likely ended their campaign.

Roger Stone made a call the same day and had Russia release the first tranche of the embarrassing Dem emails that they had illegally hacked and been sitting on. They went public within hours of the Access Hollywood tape being released.

The Russians then continued to release more hacked emails in a steady drip over the following months and those releases continued to get significant coverage in the press.

All of the above is factual. So the question then becomes, did the hacked emails meaningfully blunt the impact of what would have otherwise been a campaign-ending PR nightmare for Trump and did the continued release of those embarrassing emails Influence anyone who might have otherwise begrudgingly voted for Hillary?

I don’t know if it swung the election, but it absolutely created noise that helped Trump survive a tough situation at an important time in the campaign. Trump requested and got that help from a top foreign adversary.

What exactly Russia got out of that arrangement is unknown, but it begs the question as to why, when Trump’s legal team clearly advised him that he must return the huge cache of classified docs in his possession, did he chose to lie, several times, and say he had returned them when he hadn’t?

Also, what did the Saudis get in return for their highly unusual $2b investment with Jared, but that’s a related but different discussion.

Regarding Hillary, she wasn’t a candidate, she wasn’t an elected or appointed official, she didn’t even have an official role within the DNC (hello Ronna McDaniel). As far as we know, she also wasn’t involved in a conspiracy to appoint fake electors or prevent certification. So I don’t care what she said.

Regarding mental fitness, there’s ample evidence that Trump is struggling cognitively. I’d be all for both candidates taking and publicizing a standardized cognitive test. Let’s get it all out there.

Here is a great example of the hypocrisy of right wing coverage of this topic.

View embedded media

Pussy should have no bearing on world or national governmental functions. Locker room talk is exactly that. Not meant for billboards nor for pumping pretend outrage. Politics at its worst gets in the way of pragmatic (too cruel?) governance.

 

[ugaboz]

insurrection insurrection insurrection rhythms with russia russia russia​

just another dim fake narrative.

Go to Youtube and listen to Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund tell the truth as to what happened.

exactly

 

[Boost Assendahm]

Putin in space. Putin in space. Putin on a horse. Putin on a horse. Bare chested, riding bare back. Napoleon boner Putin rules the sheeples of the world. And his mama loves him.

 

[willdup]

Pussy should have no bearing on world or national governmental functions. Locker room talk is exactly that. Not meant for billboards nor for pumping pretend outrage. Politics at its worst gets in the way of pragmatic (too cruel?) governance.

I understand that republicans would like to memory-hole the rest of us into believing that character and morals never mattered in politics, but it always has, at least until Trump. Your feelings aside, the Access Hollywood tape would have been a huge problem in any prior campaign and Roger Stone had the hacked Dem emails released on the same day because he knew the noise would help distract from the tape.

And regardless of what the impact was, the Trump campaign thought it would help, called in the favor, and the Russians accommodated them. And the Russians don’t provide favors without expectations.

 

[atlanta cock#]

Never a doubt about it. A demonstration turned riotous, yes, but ONLY because it was managed to look awful, and to achieve little other than shock value in selected video segments. Early on, we were encouraged to actually (seriously?) believe Bison Head Boy was the spiritual leader of Placard Guerrilla Shock Troops trained for years in Cuba for this very “insurrection” & horrid invasion to follow.

David Koresh’s women & children were more dangerous. And with that embarrassment of Big Government ineptitude, most every guy in a pickup flying the “American Flag” became type cast as white supremacists bent on killing or hypnotizing all the nice people of the world. God forgive us ALL for being so gullible and so eager to buy into anything that smacks of being smothered, mothered & covered from cradle to grave.

We earn all of this crap. ALL of it, for blindly & numbly electing & reelecting the SAME clowns & clones term after term after term and LAUGHABLY expecting better results. Children being lead by the narcissistic child like. We deserve the shit cauldron WE have allowed to fester & boil over. Own it! Do something about it. Throw out ALL incumbents. Make lobbying (foreign & domestic) a felony. Require our leadership at all levels to have a 50/50 balance between business & legal professionals. Make career politicians a joke. The longer you’re in office, the less your compensation from all sources must be. Term limits are a must, no matter whose FEELINGS it hurts. And balance in backgrounds & experience is a must for every elected office at every level of government. Easy fix, Quick fix. Cheap fix.

 

[Boost Assendahm]

I understand that republicans would like to memory-hole the rest of us into believing that character and morals never mattered in politics, but it always has, at least until Trump. Your feelings aside, the Access Hollywood tape would have been a huge problem in any prior campaign and Roger Stone had the hacked Dem emails released on the same day because he knew the noise would help distract from the tape.

And regardless of what the impact was, the Trump campaign thought it would help, called in the favor, and the Russians accommodated them. And the Russians don’t provide favors without expectations.

Pussy doesn’t matter nor should it. Didn't matter with BJs in the oval office except as political gamesmanship, which is literally the root cause of most of our societal & financial woes (the ones that never seem to be addressed beyond chatter among committees. Our system is paralyzed by legal and political games. And we buy it, eat it, drink it, take it in our every orifice. Then we stand in line to vote for MORE of the same. We’re staggering addicts of this insipid system, that has long lost its way. Blaming each other is surely not the answer nor a way toward solution. Merry Christmas.

 

[deadduckdawg]

I understand that republicans would like to memory-hole the rest of us into believing that character and morals never mattered in politics, but it always has, at least until Trump. Your feelings aside, the Access Hollywood tape would have been a huge problem in any prior campaign and Roger Stone had the hacked Dem emails released on the same day because he knew the noise would help distract from the tape.

And regardless of what the impact was, the Trump campaign thought it would help, called in the favor, and the Russians accommodated them. And the Russians don’t provide favors without expectations.

“And the Russians don’t provide favors without expectations.“

Neither do the Chinese, the Romanians, the Russians (as you said), the Kazakhstanis, and Burisma.

 

[Athens is Heaven]

Pussy doesn’t matter nor should it. Didn't matter with BJs in the oval office except as political gamesmanship, which is literally the root cause of most of our societal & financial woes (the ones that never seem to be addressed beyond chatter among committees. Our system is paralyzed by legal and political games. And we buy it, eat it, drink it, take it in our every orifice. Then we stand in line to vote for MORE of the same. We’re staggering addicts of this insipid system, that has long lost its way. Blaming each other is surely not the answer nor a way toward solution. Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas to you Boost!

 

[willdup]

“And the Russians don’t provide favors without expectations.“

Neither do the Chinese, the Romanians, the Russians (as you said), the Kazakhstanis, and Burisma.

Given all of that crime was so pervasive and was overseen by a crackhead who gifted the investigation his laptop three years ago, you’d think they’d have more than a $4200 car payment to hang Joe with by now. Maybe next year!

With that, I’ll bid you and all my Chat brethren a very Merry Christmas. Peace and goodwill to all!

 

[deadduckdawg]

Given all of that crime was so pervasive and was overseen by a crackhead who gifted the investigation his laptop three years ago, you’d think they’d have more than a $4200 car payment to hang Joe with by now. Maybe next year!

With that, I’ll bid you and all my Chat brethren a very Merry Christmas. Peace and goodwill to all!

So why was your contention so valid when you applied it to Trump, but you sneer at the same contention when applied to the Bidens?

 

[willdup]

So why was your contention so valid when you applied it to Trump, but you sneer at the same contention when applied to the Bidens?

Because the benefit Trump received (help in the 2016 and 2020 elections) is very well documented and there remains zero proof of a benefit that Joe received, which even prominent congressional republicans acknowledge.

We also don’t have Joe at an international press event standing next to the leaders of any of those countries siding with their lies over our own intelligence services, as Trump did with Putin. Or laughing in the Oval Office with the ambassadors of any of those countries after firing the head of the FBI, as Trump did shortly after firing the Comey. Or taking, keeping and then lying about having many boxes of highly classified government documents.

Those are all material differences.

 

[deadduckdawg]

Because the benefit Trump received (help in the 2016 and 2020 elections) is very well documented and there remains zero proof of a benefit that Joe received, which even prominent congressional republicans acknowledge.

We also don’t have Joe at an international press event standing next to the leaders of any of those countries siding with their lies over our own intelligence services, as Trump did with Putin. Or laughing in the Oval Office with the ambassadors of any of those countries after firing the head of the FBI, as Trump did shortly after firing the Comey. Or taking, keeping and then lying about having many boxes of highly classified government documents.

Those are all material differences.

It’s a perfect illustration of your hypocrisy, imo.

 

[willdup]

It’s a perfect illustration of your hypocrisy, imo.

So republicans acknowledge they have no proof against Joe and Trump has 91 felony count indictments across four different cases, many of which feature his own words as key evidence, and I’m the hypocrite. Ok.

Have a Merry Christmas, Duck. Peace to
you and yours.

 

[cherrydawg]

There are huge differences between what Trump did and what the Dems did, including but not limited to fake electors (under indictment in MI with others states on the way) and J6 itself. You can speculate about all of the laws the Dems were prepared to break if Trump had won in 2020, but it’s speculation and hypotheticals.

And absolutely no one can prove that Russia’s efforts didn’t impact the 2016 outcome. It’s impossible to prove either way and the FBI haven’t suggested otherwise.

The more important point is that Trump asked for help from Russia, got that help and his campaign was aware he was getting that help and welcomed it. That’s all documented fact. What did Putin expect and what did he receive in return for his considerable support?

If they can prove that Joe got money or provided benefit to a foreign power, throw the book at him. But we know the benefit (or at least some of the benefit) Russian provides Trump. Where’s the outrage about that?

What benefit will? Prove it. SMH

 

[cherrydawg]

You’ve cited studies several times studies that do not in any way examine the hack and release operation requested by Trump and run by the Russians. That’s the interference I’ve been focused on during all these discussions with you and it’s the interference that I believe may have had an impact on the outcome.

Let’s see if we can agree on a few things.

In any prior presidential campaign, a major candidate caught on tape laughing about the assertion that being a celebrity like himself meant he was free to grab women by their p**sy would have likely ended their campaign.

Roger Stone made a call the same day and had Russia release the first tranche of the embarrassing Dem emails that they had illegally hacked and been sitting on. They went public within hours of the Access Hollywood tape being released.

The Russians then continued to release more hacked emails in a steady drip over the following months and those releases continued to get significant coverage in the press.

All of the above is factual. So the question then becomes, did the hacked emails meaningfully blunt the impact of what would have otherwise been a campaign-ending PR nightmare for Trump and did the continued release of those embarrassing emails Influence anyone who might have otherwise begrudgingly voted for Hillary?

I don’t know if it swung the election, but it absolutely created noise that helped Trump survive a tough situation at an important time in the campaign. Trump requested and got that help from a top foreign adversary.

What exactly Russia got out of that arrangement is unknown, but it begs the question as to why, when Trump’s legal team clearly advised him that he must return the huge cache of classified docs in his possession, did he chose to lie, several times, and say he had returned them when he hadn’t?

Also, what did the Saudis get in return for their highly unusual $2b investment with Jared, but that’s a related but different discussion.

Regarding Hillary, she wasn’t a candidate, she wasn’t an elected or appointed official, she didn’t even have an official role within the DNC (hello Ronna McDaniel). As far as we know, she also wasn’t involved in a conspiracy to appoint fake electors or prevent certification. So I don’t care what she said.

Regarding mental fitness, there’s ample evidence that Trump is struggling cognitively. I’d be all for both candidates taking and publicizing a standardized cognitive test. Let’s get it all out there.

Here is a great example of the hypocrisy of right wing coverage of this topic.

View embedded media

You are really sad. What a waste.

 

[cherrydawg]

So republicans acknowledge they have no proof against Joe and Trump has 91 felony count indictments across four different cases, many of which feature his own words as key evidence, and I’m the hypocrite. Ok.

Have a Merry Christmas, Duck. Peace to
you and yours.

Hmmmm so for you indictments, from a highly politized doj/fbi or far left out to get tump da's that campaigned on "getting trump" is proof of guilt. I'm sure you would be accepted as a juror. At this point, anyone denying the double standard in the way folks are held accountable based on the D or R by their name is just a liar.

You claim to think for yourself but it is amazing how your views match exactly those of the most far left commies in DC. You schitless, scumer, and aoc. what a list to be affiliated with. LOL you are just one of the useful ones. So TDS inflicted you can't think for yourself at all.

 

[willdup]

Hmmmm so for you indictments, from a highly politized doj/fbi or far left out to get tump da's that campaigned on "getting trump" is proof of guilt. I'm sure you would be accepted as a juror. At this point, anyone denying the double standard in the way folks are held accountable based on the D or R by their name is just a liar.

You claim to think for yourself but it is amazing how your views match exactly those of the most far left commies in DC. You schitless, scumer, and aoc. what a list to be affiliated with. LOL you are just one of the useful ones. So TDS inflicted you can't think for yourself at all.

Merry Christmas, Cherry. I hope you are surrounded by family and friends and enjoy the holiday.

 

[cherrydawg]

Merry Christmas, Cherry. I hope you are surrounded by family and friends and enjoy the holiday.

Will do mr schiftscummer/

 

[kckd]

How do you take over the capital building of a country, to take over the government, which is guarded by the most complex protection system in the world, with a police force that is trained as well as any enforcement organization in the world……. without a gun? Without any weapons?

Don’t let the terrorists know about the secret front door you can push the mall cop out of the way with.

If we can’t lock the front door of the most secure building in the world, we’re screwed on the border.

Of course, in both instances, the people in charge know exactly what they are doing.

January 6th was impossible…….unless you had help.

No guns
No drugs
No alcohol
No tear gas
No tasers
Men, women
Nothing set on fire
Nothing stolen
No hostages

……….. and they picked up after themselves

A powerful insurrection, brought to you by The Hallmark Channel.

If we still had Mr. Rogers to play the lead role in the movie follow-up. It could show him pushing past the Capital security and take over the country.

You know, real life.

January 6th was impossible unless orchestrated to allow.

I see a lot of things said here that are iffy. Who said this? Likely more of an American exceptionalism thought that's not fact based. Generally speaking, the more fear you have that your government is gonna be toppled, the more likely it is you will have tougher security at your government buildings. I don't think there was any real fear until it was too late.

which is guarded by the most complex protection system in the world, with a police force that is trained as well as any enforcement organization in the world