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Will the Trump Fest last?

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I try to remind myself that 4 years ago Santorum was the leader coming out of Iowa, but Trump seems to have a different voter base. He appeals to the 25% that are dissatisfied with the GOP and are looking for a non-career politician. I can't see him gaining much more in the polls and over the next few months as the field dwindles I think others will absorb the votes and not Trump. He seems to appeal to the non-informed voter or the ones that core Conservative values are not necessarily their top priority when choosing a candidate. He seem to be the popularity contest choice which is superficial at best. But as long as Hannity, Limbaugh, Levin, Coulter etc. continue to give him free publicity he will undoubtedly continue to hang around. I saw an article this weekend where Glen Beck is surprised at his Conservative cohorts and their infatuation with Trump. I'll take anyone besides Hillary but surely we can do better than Trump?
 
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Yes it will last. The reason will be substance.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform

As Trump becomes more engaged in the process his views may prove he’s evolved more as a conservative then people give him credit for. His additional policies must contain the same type of substance as his immigration policy. Then, he must go out and articulate those policies with confidence.

Trump has brilliant people working for him and I'm positive they are currently writing his policies and views as we speak. Team Trump.

His shock & awe campaign is working as planned. He shocked everyone with his over the top personality, name calling, and aggressive rhetoric towards Illegal immigration. He has caught the attention of ever single news outlet in the land and receiving 10times more air time then any other candidate. He realizes there is a 24hr news cycle and he's using it to his advantage. No other candidate, except maybe Cruz, has figured this strategy out yet.
He will now attempt to dazzle (awe) everyone with his teams brilliance with additional substantive policies to make this country great again. Hide and watch.
 
I think a vote for Trump right now is not an actually vote for Trump but rather a vote against the GOP. People are pissed at the Republicans for not fighting against the dems. People are fed up. I know I am.

I'm voting for Hillary. You keep voting Republican then you can't blame anyone for what you get. It's the only way to get their attention. They are all the same. They don't give a shat about us.

Just my opinion...
 
I think a vote for Trump right now is not an actually vote for Trump but rather a vote against the GOP. People are pissed at the Republicans for not fighting against the dems. People are fed up. I know I am.

I'm voting for Hillary. You keep voting Republican then you can't blame anyone for what you get. It's the only way to get their attention. They are all the same. They don't give a shat about us.

Just my opinion...

Damn you're upset about no one caring about the common man and you say you're gonna vote Hillary. Something is wrong with your thinking. I can't think of anyone currently in this race that thinks less about the common man than Hillary.
 
I think a vote for Trump right now is not an actually vote for Trump but rather a vote against the GOP. People are pissed at the Republicans for not fighting against the dems. People are fed up. I know I am.

I'm voting for Hillary. You keep voting Republican then you can't blame anyone for what you get. It's the only way to get their attention. They are all the same. They don't give a shat about us.

Just my opinion...
You can not with a straight face think hillary has the best interest of the working class in mind. She has taken screwing the general public to new standards, along with slick willy making money hand over fist at their speaking engagements. Benghazi alone is reason for a trial for treason of this nation on her part.
 
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Your right, but you do realize that the Republicans do the same exact thing but look you straight in the eye and lie. They are all for big government.

The only way to get their attention is for them to get killed in the election.

It really doesn't matter who gets elected anyway. Big money is running the country.

You keep voting republican, how has that worked out for you?
 
Oh, and by the way, you don't actually think that Trump is a conservative and cares about the things he talking about it. He is in cahoots with the Clintons. He's smart enough to realize the Republicans have screwed the pooch again. He's betting on the winning horse. A vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary. So in essence, you guys are ragging on me about voting for Hillary and you are doing the same thing voting for Trump.

When the GOP decides not to take my vote for granted because I'm a conservative, then I will start voting for them again. Until them, screw me...I voting for anything not Republican. Boner can bite me for all I care.
 
Oh, and by the way, you don't actually think that Trump is a conservative and cares about the things he talking about it. He is in cahoots with the Clintons. He's smart enough to realize the Republicans have screwed the pooch again. He's betting on the winning horse. A vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary. So in essence, you guys are ragging on me about voting for Hillary and you are doing the same thing voting for Trump.

When the GOP decides not to take my vote for granted because I'm a conservative, then I will start voting for them again. Until them, screw me...I voting for anything not Republican. Boner can bite me for all I care.

Trump would never get my vote. If he wins the GOP I won't vote in November.
 
Oh, and by the way, you don't actually think that Trump is a conservative and cares about the things he talking about it. He is in cahoots with the Clintons. He's smart enough to realize the Republicans have screwed the pooch again. He's betting on the winning horse. A vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary. So in essence, you guys are ragging on me about voting for Hillary and you are doing the same thing voting for Trump.

When the GOP decides not to take my vote for granted because I'm a conservative, then I will start voting for them again. Until them, screw me...I voting for anything not Republican. Boner can bite me for all I care.
At least vote for Bernie. Please no Hillary. Heck, get Biden trending on Twitter.
 
Trump would never get my vote. If he wins the GOP I won't vote in November.

For the first time in my life a candidate has put forth a comprehensive immigration plan that makes sense. That candidate is Trump. Hil wants to give everyone free college and wants to increase immigration and convert the country into a 3rd world welfare state. Not sure how anyone could vote for that. Not voting is a vote for Hil.
 
You can not with a straight face think hillary has the best interest of the working class in mind. She has taken screwing the general public to new standards, along with slick willy making money hand over fist at their speaking engagements. Benghazi alone is reason for a trial for treason of this nation on her part.

You can't with a straight face tell me that Trump has the best interest of the working class in mind either. This man is an entertainer that is running the biggest con-game in political history and 25% of repubs are falling for it.
 
You can't with a straight face tell me that Trump has the best interest of the working class in mind either. This man is an entertainer that is running the biggest con-game in political history and 25% of repubs are falling for it.

Yep, can you believe they are falling for it.
 
Yep, can you believe they are falling for it.

My thoughts exactly. I can't believe people are falling for this guy. It's all about expanding the Trump name and empire. The biggest surprise for me is the Conservative talking heads who had abandoned their core principles and are blindly following the piper. He is playing them like a cheap fiddle. Last night Hannity had Glen Beck on and Beck has taken him to task because Hannity has basically taken the bait. My respect for some of these guys as true conservatives has diminished. I now realize that they will compromise their beliefs for ratings.
 
You can't with a straight face tell me that Trump has the best interest of the working class in mind either. This man is an entertainer that is running the biggest con-game in political history and 25% of repubs are falling for it.

With all due respect, you're wrong. You can dismiss Trump as an entertainer at your on own demise. Trump has unbelievably brilliant people working for him; you don't get to be worth 10billion dollars and have a bunch of dummies hanging around. He may or may not be a true conservative, but if you've watched Trump over the past few years, as I have, you know he has a great desire to make this country great again. His views have evolved (light is now on) after watching what the Democrats have become over the past decade: Socialist or Statist, whichever you prefer, (Stat-ism definition: concentration of economic controls and planning in the hands of a highly centralized government often extending to government ownership of industry), has hijacked the Democrat party. And, Socialism always leads to communism, which ends up leading to Tyranny. Comprehend?

Is it in Trump's, or the American people's, best interest to allow this to continue? I think not. Socialism, throughout human history, has failed at every attempt. Capitalism has created more wealth and pulled more people out of poverty around the world than socialism ever thought of doing.

In addition, Trump has zero reason to elevate Hillary as President. She's currently going down in flames. Her classified email account has now grown to 305. The woman is toxic. Just because someone is upset at the Republicans, rightfully so (Boehner & McConnell for their obvious lies), is no reason to give up on the Republican Party. Ronald Reagan never gave up and neither should we. The outright lies from the establishment Republicans energizes me to oust our current leadership at any and every opportunity. Ted Cruz, imo, is our best hope as a true conservative. He has a record for not only fighting the Democrats but challenging the establishment Republican leadership to his own detriment.
 
For the first time in my life a candidate has put forth a comprehensive immigration plan that makes sense. That candidate is Trump. Hil wants to give everyone free college and wants to increase immigration and convert the country into a 3rd world welfare state. Not sure how anyone could vote for that. Not voting is a vote for Hil.


His immigration plan sounds good on the surface because it appeals to most people but it's simply not feasible and not going to happen. He's not going to be running a company where he makes all the decisions and expects his minions to carry out the plan. How the heck is he going to deport the children (born in the USA) of illegal immigrants? There's no way the courts will allow it. We have an imperial leader already who think he can change or ignore laws, we surely do not need another.
 
With all due respect, you're wrong. You can dismiss Trump as an entertainer at your on own demise. Trump has unbelievably brilliant people working for him; you don't get to be worth 10billion dollars and have a bunch of dummies hanging around. He may or may not be a true conservative, but if you've watched Trump over the past few years, as I have, you know he has a great desire to make this country great again. His views have evolved (light is now on) after watching what the Democrats have become over the past decade: Socialist or Statist, whichever you prefer, (Stat-ism definition: concentration of economic controls and planning in the hands of a highly centralized government often extending to government ownership of industry), has hijacked the Democrat party. And, Socialism always leads to communism, which ends up leading to Tyranny. Comprehend?

Is it in Trump's, or the American people's, best interest to allow this to continue? I think not. Socialism, throughout human history, has failed at every attempt. Capitalism has created more wealth and pulled more people out of poverty around the world than socialism ever thought of doing.

In addition, Trump has zero reason to elevate Hillary as President. She's currently going down in flames. Her classified email account has now grown to 305. The woman is toxic. Just because someone is upset at the Republicans, rightfully so (Boehner & McConnell for their obvious lies), is no reason to give up on the Republican Party. Ronald Reagan never gave up and neither should we. The outright lies from the establishment Republicans energizes me to oust our current leadership at any and every opportunity. Ted Cruz, imo, is our best hope as a true conservative. He has a record for not only fighting the Democrats but challenging the establishment Republican leadership to his own detriment.


CCD, a man's past is a pretty good indication of his core beliefs, just look at BHO. Did we really think he would go the socialist path after his election. All the pundits said he would evolve to a more centralist, didn't happen.
Trump may a brilliant businessman surrounded with great people, but he still obviously made mistake along the way, 4 bankruptcy's.
Personally I like the fact that he challenges the GOP establishment and leadership (he could be a little more civil) but I'm not convinced he's the "one". Maybe he's the John the Baptist and is preparing the way for the one to come?
 
His immigration plan sounds good on the surface because it appeals to most people but it's simply not feasible and not going to happen. He's not going to be running a company where he makes all the decisions and expects his minions to carry out the plan. How the heck is he going to deport the children (born in the USA) of illegal immigrants? There's no way the courts will allow it. We have an imperial leader already who think he can change or ignore laws, we surely do not need another.

How does obama keep pissing on the constitution and breaking laws? I'm not saying it makes it right for Trump to deport illegals that have had children that are us citizens, but they broke the law in the process of gaining that advantage. We are being flooded with immigrants that do not care about the American dream of self-sufficient living, but want all the freebies with out paying into the system. We need to make them pay if they stay for the services they are provided. We can not as a state or nation keep taxing our tax payers to subsidize people not paying into the system.
I appreciate what Trump has brought to the table with immigration bringing it back to the table for debate, he is forcing the candidates on both sides to face the real issues that were swept under the rug. I think Cruz, Walker or Carson would be great choices for the conservative platform.
 
I think voters need to start seeking execution strategy from candidates rather than statements of what should be...

The problem is the majority of people are not analysts, strategists, or engineers so they don't value the process of achieving a desired result given a set of circumstances and dynamic variables.

Tell people what they want to hear, get elected, fulfill the minimum if any promise at all, enjoy the wealth. That's politics today.

People are just too lazy to think more than 1 or 2 moves ahead about most issues. That's why politics have regressed to high school popularity, middle school name calling, and the displayed intelligence of an elementary age whiny brat all wrapped up into an infant desire for wanting to be fed.

Lord help us.

I am not a Trump fan but I don't think he can do more damage than any other candidate.
 
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How does obama keep pissing on the constitution and breaking laws? I'm not saying it makes it right for Trump to deport illegals that have had children that are us citizens, but they broke the law in the process of gaining that advantage. We are being flooded with immigrants that do not care about the American dream of self-sufficient living, but want all the freebies with out paying into the system. We need to make them pay if they stay for the services they are provided. We can not as a state or nation keep taxing our tax payers to subsidize people not paying into the system.
I appreciate what Trump has brought to the table with immigration bringing it back to the table for debate, he is forcing the candidates on both sides to face the real issues that were swept under the rug. I think Cruz, Walker or Carson would be great choices for the conservative platform.

I'm not disagreeing with your statement and totally agree with your analysis of our current situation. I'm just saying Trump is talking a big game but I'm concerned too many people are buying into his words and think he can magically fix all that is wrong. There is a process that has to be followed and he will never get the votes necessary to deport or the courts to agree. We are past the tipping point on the immigration issue. Trump gets a lot of "atta boys" on his tough talk but the reality is that he will be powerless to change anything.
 
How does obama keep pissing on the constitution and breaking laws? I'm not saying it makes it right for Trump to deport illegals that have had children that are us citizens, but they broke the law in the process of gaining that advantage. We are being flooded with immigrants that do not care about the American dream of self-sufficient living, but want all the freebies with out paying into the system. We need to make them pay if they stay for the services they are provided. We can not as a state or nation keep taxing our tax payers to subsidize people not paying into the system.
I appreciate what Trump has brought to the table with immigration bringing it back to the table for debate, he is forcing the candidates on both sides to face the real issues that were swept under the rug. I think Cruz, Walker or Carson would be great choices for the conservative platform.

I'm not disagreeing with your statement and totally agree with your analysis of our current situation. I'm just saying Trump is talking a big game but I'm concerned too many people are buying into his words and think he can magically fix all that is wrong. There is a process that has to be followed and he will never get the votes necessary to deport or the courts to agree. We are past the tipping point on the immigration issue. Trump gets a lot of "atta boys" on his tough talk but the reality is that he will be powerless to change anything.
 
His immigration plan sounds good on the surface because it appeals to most people but it's simply not feasible and not going to happen. He's not going to be running a company where he makes all the decisions and expects his minions to carry out the plan. How the heck is he going to deport the children (born in the USA) of illegal immigrants? There's no way the courts will allow it. We have an imperial leader already who think he can change or ignore laws, we surely do not need another.[/QUOTe


All he has to do is enforce immigration laws on the books, defund sanctuary cities, crack down on e-verify, and secure the border. That should be doable and is 100% better than what we have now. Anchor baby issue is a little more complicated but it was originally put in the constitution to ensure that slaves would be citizens upon birth. It was interpreted in the 1980s by SCOTUS to include anyone including illegal immigrants. It might be an uphill battle but it is worth a challenge to that interpretation. What I don't really understand is why people don't look at the entire picture and see the positives rather than point out that certain parts of the plan would be impossible to achieve.
 
CCD, a man's past is a pretty good indication of his core beliefs, just look at BHO. Did we really think he would go the socialist path after his election. All the pundits said he would evolve to a more centralist, didn't happen.
Trump may a brilliant businessman surrounded with great people, but he still obviously made mistake along the way, 4 bankruptcy's.
Personally I like the fact that he challenges the GOP establishment and leadership (he could be a little more civil) but I'm not convinced he's the "one". Maybe he's the John the Baptist and is preparing the way for the one to come?

I'm not convinced he's the 'one' either. But here is my point... I wasn't always a conservative either. Becoming conservative is an educated process, more or less a self-educated process for me. When you finally rely on the facts and evidence the new Democrat Party is full of Socialist/Statist with an agenda to redistribute wealth, import voters, take over industry, and destroy capitalism, it doesn't take long to figure out what side of the fence you're on. Trump may not be a 'true' conservative, but he definitely leans to the Right.
 
I'm not convinced he's the 'one' either. But here is my point... I wasn't always a conservative either. Becoming conservative is an educated process, more or less a self-educated process for me. When you finally rely on the facts and evidence the new Democrat Party is full of Socialist/Statist with an agenda to redistribute wealth, import voters, take over industry, and destroy capitalism, it doesn't take long to figure out what side of the fence you're on. Trump may not be a 'true' conservative, but he definitely leans to the Right.

Well, we have a few months to see how it all plays out. Compared to the DEMS, yes he is to the right on most issues. I'm not convinced at this point in the race that he is sincere and will hold to Conservative principles. But, I will give him a chance to prove otherwise. I don't hear much from him on the Constitution and would like to hear more. For me, Cruz, Walker and Rubio are the ones I line up with although each have some views that are concerning. Cruz really intrigues me because he has stood up to the GOP and is not well liked by the party leaders. Plus, he is strong on the Constitution and has the legal background to prove his positions. I enjoy talking politics with everyone and respect the opinion of all.
 
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Well, we have a few months to see how it all plays out. Compared to the DEMS, yes he is to the right on most issues. I'm not convinced at this point in the race that he is sincere and will hold to Conservative principles. But, I will give him a chance to prove otherwise. I don't hear much from him on the Constitution and would like to hear more. For me, Cruz, Walker and Rubio are the ones I line up with although each have some views that are concerning. Cruz really intrigues me because he has stood up to the GOP and is not well liked by the party leaders. Plus, he is strong on the Constitution and has the legal background to prove his positions. I enjoy talking politics with everyone and respect the opinion of all.

Cruz and Walker are currently my top two as well.
 
Cruz and Walker are currently my top two as well.

Does Cruz come across to you as being almost too smooth or polished? If that makes any sense. He projects confidence and clearly thinks before he speaks, but there is something about his delivery that can be viewed as political speak and not genuine. I like his message, just not sure how others perceive him personally.
 
Does Cruz come across to you as being almost too smooth or polished? If that makes any sense. He projects confidence and clearly thinks before he speaks, but there is something about his delivery that can be viewed as political speak and not genuine. I like his message, just not sure how others perceive him personally.

Cruz is a brilliant man, and from my perspective is a real conservative. Running for President is a balance of appearing Presidential while expressing your genuine passion for what one believes will make America better for future generations. It's a delicate balance. Cruz, to me, doesn't appear spurious, but rather he seems coached at times. He just needs to relax and be himself. But don't be fooled, he's a polished Politician.
 
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Does Cruz come across to you as being almost too smooth or polished? If that makes any sense. He projects confidence and clearly thinks before he speaks, but there is something about his delivery that can be viewed as political speak and not genuine. I like his message, just not sure how others perceive him personally.

He comes off as a televangelist, not a politician to me. Probably because of his father. I have always said his delivery is like a preacher you see on tv. Can be very convincing with his delivery. His father is an issue with me that most don't talk about. His father wanted to join up and fight for the Castro's, got out of Cuba, came to Univ of TX, then to Canada for a short time and then back here since. Over 40 yrs. And he JUST becomes a US citizen in 2005? Why? The obvious reason is Ted was getting into politics, and how that would look, but 40 yrs and you never WANT to be a citizen? You live here all these years, get the great advantages of living here, etc. and you still won't apply for citizenship?

For me, there's just something not quite right about all that.

That said, it's 2015. The election is Nov 2016. Over a year of all this craziness!
 
I try to remind myself that 4 years ago Santorum was the leader coming out of Iowa, but Trump seems to have a different voter base. He appeals to the 25% that are dissatisfied with the GOP and are looking for a non-career politician. I can't see him gaining much more in the polls and over the next few months as the field dwindles I think others will absorb the votes and not Trump. He seems to appeal to the non-informed voter or the ones that core Conservative values are not necessarily their top priority when choosing a candidate. He seem to be the popularity contest choice which is superficial at best. But as long as Hannity, Limbaugh, Levin, Coulter etc. continue to give him free publicity he will undoubtedly continue to hang around. I saw an article this weekend where Glen Beck is surprised at his Conservative cohorts and their infatuation with Trump. I'll take anyone besides Hillary but surely we can do better than Trump?

The GOP will do better than Trump and he won't run as a third (rate) party (not his style) candidate. What he is doing and likely will be thanked for (behind closed doors and with favors accordingly) later is forcing media and other candidates of both parties to address questions and topics that they would ordinarily not, except for the usual platitudes and politically correct (for public consumption) talking points, which function only to deflect, delay and/or say nothing substantive. Like the horse that gets out front early (but fades late), he makes the others with more stamina run faster and compete more effectively. Good for him. Good for us. Good for both parties. Good for better government.
 
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You can't with a straight face tell me that Trump has the best interest of the working class in mind either. This man is an entertainer that is running the biggest con-game in political history and 25% of repubs are falling for it.
I am a fan of Cruz and Walker who both stood up to the establishment. They have shown they believe in the Constitution and are willing to fight for what is right. Trump has forced immigration back to the forefront where it needs to be, if nothing else I appreciate that action from him. I love that he is not PC which has killed this nation. Maybe the conservatives can act like they have a set now. I agree both sides are taking us on the road to hell, one just at a slower rate that the other. If we do not get real conservative leaders to fix this broken nation we are doomed to fail in the next 10-20 years.
 
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I am a fan of Cruz and Walker who both stood up to the establishment. They have shown they believe in the Constitution and are willing to fight for what is right. Trump has forced immigration back to the forefront where it needs to be, if nothing else I appreciate that action from him. I love that he is not PC which has killed this nation. Maybe the conservatives can act like they have a set now. I agree both sides are taking us on the road to hell, one just at a slower rate that the other. If we do not get real conservative leaders to fix this broken nation we are doomed to fail in the next 10-20 years.

Please don't call them conservatives, they are not.
 
Please don't call them conservatives, they are not.

They are more conservative than 99.9% of the Republican party. I don't know where you get they are not conservative.
They have proven their stand for the conservative view by rebelling against the dems and pubs. If I listen to you I should quit pulling for the dawgs until we kill off Richt and hope for hillary to win and finish this nation off.
 
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We are doomed trumps immigration plan? Building a wall is not an immigration plan it is a shovel ready boondoggle, just what we need.
 
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We are doomed trumps immigration plan? Building a wall is not an immigration plan it is a shovel ready boondoggle, just what we need.


Whoever the GOP nominee and hopefully next President, it won't really matter unless we have a change of leadership in the House and Senate.
 
I damn sure hope he hangs in. If nothing else, he is making the other candidates take a position and defend it. But of course you can't get a firm position out of Bush, but what else is new?
 
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They are more conservative than 99.9% of the Republican party. I don't know where you get they are not conservative.
They have proven their stand for the conservative view by rebelling against the dems and pubs. If I listen to you I should quit pulling for the dawgs until we kill off Richt and hope for hillary to win and finish this nation off.

Really, did the republicans vote to buy out the banks in 2008...yes.

They promised to fight to overturn Obamacare....how did they do?

They promised to do something about illegal immigration...how has that worked out?

They talk a good game, but ultimately they are crony capitalist. High powered movers and shakers are colluding to fix prices for greater profit. It is the governments job in a free market system to make sure that companies and people are not colluding and fixing prices. They are colluding and the government is doing nothing to stop it.

Case in point...the airline industry. If we had free airfare market, we would see those prices coming down because of gas prices.

Just my opinion...
 
Really, did the republicans vote to buy out the banks in 2008...yes.

They promised to fight to overturn Obamacare....how did they do?

They promised to do something about illegal immigration...how has that worked out?

They talk a good game, but ultimately they are crony capitalist. High powered movers and shakers are colluding to fix prices for greater profit. It is the governments job in a free market system to make sure that companies and people are not colluding and fixing prices. They are colluding and the government is doing nothing to stop it.

Case in point...the airline industry. If we had free airfare market, we would see those prices coming down because of gas prices.

Just my opinion...


Agree to a point. Yes the GOP made some promises regarding the border, the budget and Obamacare just to get elected and control congress, but even with the majority could they really do anything with BHO as President? They would need 60 votes in the Senate just to pass a bill (not possible) only to have it vetoed by BHO. Then it would take 2/3 votes for an over ride and that surely won't happen. My point being that we are in a messed up time with polarized party leaders that will not compromise in order to pass legislation. The House is a mess but the Senate is 1 F'd up government body. Nothing has gotten accomplished the past several years under Reid and now McConnell. The only way Obamacare was passed was changing the Senate rules to allow a simple majority to pass legislation. How in heck does that happen?
It has come to the point to where the only way to pass legislation is to have control in all 3 branches and that is a very dangerous scenario.
 
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Agree to a point. Yes the GOP made some promises regarding the border, the budget and Obamacare just to get elected and control congress, but even with the majority could they really do anything with BHO as President? They would need 60 votes in the Senate just to pass a bill (not possible) only to have it vetoed by BHO. Then it would take 2/3 votes for an over ride and that surely won't happen. My point being that we are in a messed up time with polarized party leaders that will not compromise in order to pass legislation. The House is a mess but the Senate is 1 F'd up government body. Nothing has gotten accomplished the past several years under Reid and now McConnell. The only way Obamacare was passed was changing the Senate rules to allow a simple majority to pass legislation. How in heck does that happen?
It has come to the point to where the only way to pass legislation is to have control in all 3 branches and that is a very dangerous scenario.

it also SUX that congress passes laws and then exempts themselves ..............OBAMACARE !
 
Exactly, that is just one example of many. Obamacare was written by insurance companies. They have 40 million new customers with government subsidies. Pubs are in on it too. They just like to pretend they are against it.
I agree with much of your sentiment, but do we insure more of the same by allowing hillary to get in? I will fight and do all I can do to keep the flag flying over this broken nation. I hope we can get it back and build it up again, just like when Reagan came in after carter had decimated the country.
 
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