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Further Comment on Trump / Kemp feud….

He never asked him to do something illegal. He wanted review of votes to make sure he did not win the state. Liberals interpret his words as make up votes for me and that is Not what was said at all. There was a lot of crap that went on especially in metro Atl in 2020 and the 2021 run off. Reports that poll workers wrote D or R on the privacy sleeve which invalidated votes. Targeted in red areas.
Here’s another issue with signature verification non biased report from MIT.
He's great. He's been wonderful. Couldn't have asked for a better three weeks than what old Don has given Republicans.

 
Not those numbers but this was from two years ago. Would be way higher now
"I just need 11,780 votes, Brad". Yes, Trump seemed very interested in finding out how corrupt and wide ranging voter fraud was in Georgia. I mean that's the kind of statement you make when you're interested in investigating illegal voting.

You know, like when the detective comes to investigate a murder and asks for a body.

BTW, any evidence that those non citizens actually voted? No. They weren't registered.
 
He's great. He's been wonderful. Couldn't have asked for a better three weeks than what old Don has given Republicans.

And you love our impending recession and market crash? Biden Harris policies led to the destabilization of the Middle East and approach to war. They gave Iran tons of money directly and indirectly by removing sanctions and allowing them to develop nuclear weapons. When Trump was in office Iran was broke and couldn’t afford to find terrorists but Harris and Biden made them rich which led to the funding of terrorism against Israel. Bidenomics is what led us to the recession which has technically been going on until they redefined the definition of recession. Part of the reason the market collapsed also is the fear that Harris could win and her economic policies would devastate businesses as well as all of us. If you truly support Harris radical policies then you are beyond reasoning with. There is no doubt that one party has pro America policies (R) and one is anti American (your Dems). If you can’t see that you are blinded by TDS. We are voting to save our country not for middle school president. Vote like the nation depends on it because this time it does.
 
And you love our impending recession and market crash? Biden Harris policies led to the destabilization of the Middle East and approach to war. They gave Iran tons of money directly and indirectly by removing sanctions and allowing them to develop nuclear weapons. When Trump was in office Iran was broke and couldn’t afford to find terrorists but Harris and Biden made them rich which led to the funding of terrorism against Israel. Bidenomics is what led us to the recession which has technically been going on until they redefined the definition of recession. Part of the reason the market collapsed also is the fear that Harris could win and her economic policies would devastate businesses as well as all of us. If you truly support Harris radical policies then you are beyond reasoning with. There is no doubt that one party has pro America policies (R) and one is anti American (your Dems). If you can’t see that you are blinded by TDS. We are voting to save our country not for middle school president. Vote like the nation depends on it because this time it does.
TLDR. Office is closed doc. Go home.
 
And you love our impending recession and market crash? Biden Harris policies led to the destabilization of the Middle East and approach to war. They gave Iran tons of money directly and indirectly by removing sanctions and allowing them to develop nuclear weapons. When Trump was in office Iran was broke and couldn’t afford to find terrorists but Harris and Biden made them rich which led to the funding of terrorism against Israel. Bidenomics is what led us to the recession which has technically been going on until they redefined the definition of recession. Part of the reason the market collapsed also is the fear that Harris could win and her economic policies would devastate businesses as well as all of us. If you truly support Harris radical policies then you are beyond reasoning with. There is no doubt that one party has pro America policies (R) and one is anti American (your Dems). If you can’t see that you are blinded by TDS. We are voting to save our country not for middle school president. Vote like the nation depends on it because this time it does.
Go to bed grandpa, I’ll turn off Fox News for you.
 
"I just need 11,780 votes, Brad". Yes, Trump seemed very interested in finding out how corrupt and wide ranging voter fraud was in Georgia. I mean that's the kind of statement you make when you're interested in investigating illegal voting.

You know, like when the detective comes to investigate a murder and asks for a body.

BTW, any evidence that those non citizens actually voted? No. They weren't registered.
Again that is your spin on a statement. It could be emphasis on just how close the election really was. Are you a fan of Marxism? That is what your girls policies are.
 
Again that is your spin on a statement. It could be emphasis on just how close the election really was. Are you a fan of Marxism? That is what your girls policies are.
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Didn't say you were old, Doc. Still bet you watch Newsmax.
I’m saying it. I know there are exceptions to the rule, but by and large young’ish intelligent professionals are not being influenced by trump.

I’m guessing what she is calling young is fifty something or older.
 
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First to Kemp

  1. You have been an excellent Governor, as good as we have had in my lifetime and Georgia is fortunate to have some pretty good ones in the past
  2. You have a great family who have served along side you, but it would be wise for your spouse to be guarded in her comments about your parties Candidate. It was at least tacky, perhaps even stupid.
  3. You are a very popular politician in Georgia who could certainly beat either of our current US Senators and we hope you do.
  4. Your current voting integrity rules and policies in Georgia are outstanding but your 2020 version where 75% of the opposition party voters showed no ID to vote and a portion of that number had their ballots requested and returned to an unsecured lockbox is certainly going to be questioned. Moreover there were little if any signature verification performed and signature verification equipment was not used, most likely intentionally in the largest Democrat County. Yes, some of us that are NOT trump supporters see the possibility of fraud above the norm and over an acceptable level.
  5. Without Trump’s support in the 2018 primary Casey Cagel would most likely been the Governor
Former President Trump

1. Policy wise you would be light years better than Karmala for the next President of the US
2. Yes you were probably let down by Kemp in 2020 but that is in the past , this is 2024 and Georgia is a swing state where Kemp can greatly assist you in winning the state
3. You have enough enemies, don’t make more from someone who supports you 96% of the time
4. Treat Kemp like Senate Candidate Hogan in Maryland, dislike him if you must but reach a truce and drive on.
5. You can beat Harris if you show humility and use some wisdom, unlike you did last night.
Great advice I wish like hell Trump would take it many of the people that like the rebuclians have a better plan for america feel that way.
It's really about what Policies are best for most Americans I just hope there enough People can see that inspite of the stupid stuff that being said
 
And you love our impending recession and market crash? Biden Harris policies led to the destabilization of the Middle East and approach to war. They gave Iran tons of money directly and indirectly by removing sanctions and allowing them to develop nuclear weapons. When Trump was in office Iran was broke and couldn’t afford to find terrorists but Harris and Biden made them rich which led to the funding of terrorism against Israel. Bidenomics is what led us to the recession which has technically been going on until they redefined the definition of recession. Part of the reason the market collapsed also is the fear that Harris could win and her economic policies would devastate businesses as well as all of us. If you truly support Harris radical policies then you are beyond reasoning with. There is no doubt that one party has pro America policies (R) and one is anti American (your Dems). If you can’t see that you are blinded by TDS. We are voting to save our country not for middle school president. Vote like the nation depends on it because this time it does.
Doc. He doesn’t do policy. He only insults trump. Then when finished he has a snappy gif or meme. Had three people dm me about him checking to see if he was all there. He is most times. Just not when it comes to trump. Most of it is troll work.
 
Doc. He doesn’t do policy. He only insults trump. Then when finished he has a snappy gif or meme. Had three people dm me about him checking to see if he was all there. He is most times. Just not when it comes to trump. Most of it is troll work.
Oh, I've had discussions about you too Zing. But honestly I don't know you and you don't know me. Whatever you say about me really is just a guess. I'd say the same about you, though I have interacted with people who have actually met you. It seems the doc blows a fuse rather easily.
 
Not surprised you are voting for kamala
Its makes sense lol
At a tombstone bar in a juke joint car, he made a stop
Just long enough to grab a handle off the top
 
He never asked him to do something illegal. He wanted review of votes to make sure he did not win the state. Liberals interpret his words as make up votes for me and that is Not what was said at all. There was a lot of crap that went on especially in metro Atl in 2020 and the 2021 run off. Reports that poll workers wrote D or R on the privacy sleeve which invalidated votes. Targeted in red areas.
Here’s another issue with signature verification non biased report from MIT.
He started his comment with two lies and then asked Raffensberger to to find exactly the number of votes needed to win the state.



During the call, Trump stated there was proof of tens of thousands of dead people voting (there wasn’t), brought up the suitcase accusations that ruined the lives of two innocent poll workers and cost Rudy $148m, made accusations of vote machine tampering (that’s actually republicans in Coffee county indicted for that crime) as well as other lies about the election in Georgia.

He also threatened Ratffensperger if he didn’t comply.

As for Trump’s legal team, Scott Hall, Sidney Powell, Kenneth Chesebro, and Jenna Ellis have all pled guilty to serious crimes associated with their work for Trump in Georgia.

Ellis also just took a plea deal in the AZ fake electors case, which is more bad news for Trump and Rudy.
 
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He started his comment with two lies and then asked Raffensberger to to find exactly the number of votes needed to win the state.



During the call, Trump stated there was proof of tens of thousands of dead people voting (there wasn’t), brought up the suitcase accusations that ruined the lives of two innocent poll workers and cost Rudy $148m, made accusations of vote machine tampering (that’s actually republicans in Coffee county indicted for that crime) as well as other lies about the election in Georgia.

He also threatened Ratffensperger if he didn’t comply.

As for Trump’s legal team, Scott Hall, Sidney Powell, Kenneth Chesebro, and Jenna Ellis have all pled guilty to serious crimes associated with their work for Trump in Georgia.

Ellis also just took a plea deal in the AZ fake electors case, which is more bad news for Trump and Rudy.
It's really amazing when you look back how easily this is brushed aside and no one in his party held him accountable. At least not anyone with real power. Can you imagine if a sitting Dem had done this stuff?
 
Except this is the honeymoon phase. Which is crashingly coming to a halt after what happened today. Those numbers will likely only go in a different direction. Sooner than later. A lot of leaks coming from the Kamala camp recently. 92 percent turnover amongst staff working directly for her. One staffer said I will never work for a woman again after working for her. Maybe the hardest person to work for in dc. The microscope is slowly beginning to turn in her direction. You feel confident people will like what they see. That hasn’t been easy for heels up in the past.
Kamala's honeymoon phase will end shortly after the DNC if Trump can STFU, and I don't think he can. I don't pay any attention to the polls, but I do pay attention to Polymarket (international betting market), and it has been trending against Trump in a big way for the last week. Every time he rants against Kamala, Kemp, etc, his odds drop. Trump is still the statistical favorite, but barely. Trump can't win without getting at least 15% of the black vote, and Kamala has galvanized black women in a way that Sleepy couldn't.

I've got to be honest, my pessimism is growing about this election.
 
Kamala's honeymoon phase will end shortly after the DNC if Trump can STFU, and I don't think he can. I don't pay any attention to the polls, but I do pay attention to Polymarket (international betting market), and it has been trending against Trump in a big way for the last week. Every time he rants against Kamala, Kemp, etc, his odds drop. Trump is still the statistical favorite, but barely. Trump can't win without getting at least 15% of the black vote, and Kamala has galvanized black women in a way that Sleepy couldn't.

I've got to be honest, my pessimism is growing about this election.
He's gonna continue to call her dumb and talk about her race. It gets his base riled up. He's not interested in winning over people. He never has been.
 
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say at this point and time she's not gonna attack a popular democratic governor in a swing state.

You all should be pissed. Not surprising that some of you blame Kemp.
You all should be pissed that the Dems rolled out a Socialist retard that cant explain inflation without a Venn Diagram. This sugar high is gonna wear off of Kamala.



Look at the comments from all the morons. You think Trumpers are dumb? Holy shiot man.
 
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Kamala's honeymoon phase will end shortly after the DNC if Trump can STFU, and I don't think he can. I don't pay any attention to the polls, but I do pay attention to Polymarket (international betting market), and it has been trending against Trump in a big way for the last week. Every time he rants against Kamala, Kemp, etc, his odds drop. Trump is still the statistical favorite, but barely. Trump can't win without getting at least 15% of the black vote, and Kamala has galvanized black women in a way that Sleepy couldn't.

I've got to be honest, my pessimism is growing about this election.
You and I have always agreed there. His mouth is his biggest weakness. The other side can’t talk without a prompter. One, because he was obviously compromised. The other because she isn’t smart enough. He talks too damn much without a prompter. And to anyone who will listen.

The name calling and attacks rev up his main base. They do nothing for votes he may have won over and trying to keep. Or ones in the fence. The guys on the left are right about that. It can’t be denied
 
It's really amazing when you look back how easily this is brushed aside and no one in his party held him accountable. At least not anyone with real power. Can you imagine if a sitting Dem had done this stuff?
Mar A Lago is a magical place where people arrive as lawyers and leave as witnesses or defendants.

It’s utterly outrageous. Multiple people on Trump’s legal team have pled guilty to felonies and lost their law licenses because of their efforts to help him steal the last election, and that’s who the GOP decides should run the country for another four years.

One of a very long list of reason why anyone voting for Trump who claims that law and order are important to them can be dismissed out of hand.
 
Oh, I've had discussions about you too Zing. But honestly I don't know you and you don't know me. Whatever you say about me really is just a guess. I'd say the same about you, though I have interacted with people who have actually met you. It seems the doc blows a fuse rather easily.
I think it is good to have a lady in here getting into the mix. We all blow a fuse every so often. Not saying she is here. Glad to hear I am moving the needle to get people to dm you. If you know people that know me, I will always stand on how I treat my friends. One in this thread I have known since I was in kindergarten. He is one of the smartest guys I know. Certainly more intelligent and knowledgeable than I am.
 
I think it is good to have a lady in here getting into the mix. We all blow a fuse every so often. Not saying she is here. Glad to hear I am moving the needle to get people to dm you. If you know people that know me, I will always stand on how I treat my friends. One in this thread I have known since I was in kindergarten. He is one of the smartest guys I know. Certainly more intelligent and knowledgeable than I am.
Nothing was bad. Just saying your take on me when for the most part all that's been talked about is politics is quite incomplete. If other people have written you over what I've posted in here, that's funny.

I would think many in here have lost it if it wasn't for the fact 70% of the part right now believes conspiracy theories. At that point, you can't believe 70 percent of people are not (how did you put it?) "all there". Just led astray and have decided they will live in a place that's comfortable for them.
 
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Trump= Prosperity and Peace. Vote policy people, screw everything else.
If that's what it was, you could've picked someone else to implement the same policies. It's not like the other Republicans aren't in agreement with his policy. Kinsinger and Chaney voted with him on almost everything. I think Kinzinger was one percent off the average Republican in voting to pass Trump bills. Chaney was two percent above the average. You had a chance to run someone else.

Could've and should've chosen someone else the first time. They would've beaten Clinton. But the four years only proved what a terrible mistake it was and here we are again.

If Trump is a great candidate, why is he in in a dog fight with this candidate that everyone says is one of the worst ever and never even really had to win anything to secure the nomination?


If he is not a good candidate, how does he not show up for debates and win the nomination?

This was a big mistake. Republicans got cocky.
 
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If that's what it was, you could've picked someone else to implement the same policies. It's not like the other Republicans aren't in agreement with his policy. Kinsinger and Chaney voted with him on almost everything. I think Kinzinger was one percent off the average Republican in voting to pass Trump bills. Chaney was two percent above the average. You had a chance to run someone else.

Could've and should've chosen someone else the first time. They would've beaten Clinton. But the four years only proved what a terrible mistake it was and here we are again.

If Trump is a great candidate, why is he in in a dog fight with this candidate that everyone says is one of the worst ever and never even really had to win anything to secure the nomination?


If he is not a good candidate, how does he not show up for debates and win the nomination?

This was a big mistake. Republicans got cocky.
Dont you live in Korea?

If Trump is such a bad candidate why wasnt Biden kicking his ass? Why isnt Harris 10 points ahead already? Why did 77 million people vote for him last election?

Also , if you were having a good faith argument ( debatable) you could say that a Republican candidate would have a very hard time fighting against the media which is entirely in the bag for the Dems.
 
If that's what it was, you could've picked someone else to implement the same policies. It's not like the other Republicans aren't in agreement with his policy. Kinsinger and Chaney voted with him on almost everything. I think Kinzinger was one percent off the average Republican in voting to pass Trump bills. Chaney was two percent above the average. You had a chance to run someone else.

Could've and should've chosen someone else the first time. They would've beaten Clinton. But the four years only proved what a terrible mistake it was and here we are again.

If Trump is a great candidate, why is he in in a dog fight with this candidate that everyone says is one of the worst ever and never even really had to win anything to secure the nomination?


If he is not a good candidate, how does he not show up for debates and win the nomination?

This was a big mistake. Republicans got cocky.
How do you describe these last 4 years if Trump's were a terrible mistake? What debate has he declined outside of the 2nd debate he agreed to do with Biden? Why hasn't Harris addressed the nation since her annointment? Laughing at the dogfight comment.......per the corporate media maybe. It's the economy stupid and Trump's policies have him ahead on that issue by tens of points!
 
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How do you describe these last 4 years if Trump's were a terrible mistake? What debate has he declined outside of the 2nd debate he agreed to do with Biden? Why hasn't Harris addressed the nation since her annointment? Laughing at the dogfight comment.......per the corporate media maybe. It's the economy stupid and Trump's policies have him ahead on that issue by tens of points!
You're doing a what about. Not talking about my own opinions here. Choosing cube steak over liver is stupid if you could have had a T-bone.

I'm just talking about what I see here. You could've practically chosen anyone else and the race is over. You chose an extremely flawed candidate to flip your finger to the other party and you have a real chance of losing when the other side had to change course near the finish line.
 
If that's what it was, you could've picked someone else to implement the same policies. It's not like the other Republicans aren't in agreement with his policy. Kinsinger and Chaney voted with him on almost everything. I think Kinzinger was one percent off the average Republican in voting to pass Trump bills. Chaney was two percent above the average. You had a chance to run someone else.

Could've and should've chosen someone else the first time. They would've beaten Clinton. But the four years only proved what a terrible mistake it was and here we are again.

If Trump is a great candidate, why is he in in a dog fight with this candidate that everyone says is one of the worst ever and never even really had to win anything to secure the nomination?


If he is not a good candidate, how does he not show up for debates and win the nomination?

This was a big mistake. Republicans got cocky.
That is just it. I could really write a book here. I will try to keep it shorter. He isn’t a great candidate. He wasn’t a great candidate when he ran against Hillary. Literally no one but him thought he could win. The Dems were making jokes. What you have to understand is he hit on something in the base that was sick of being told they couldn’t say. It is still prevalent now obviously and has morphed into something much better. I don’t like who is leading it, but if you haven’t looked his rallies are more and more inclusive by the day. The other side cancels anyone and everyone. Liberal comedians Dave chappelle and Matt rife are feeling it right now. Go google a video of any lefty trying out a trump rally. Hell matt Damon did a movie where he emersed himself into a basic Trump rally. Said everyone treated him well. The hospitality was unbelievable compared to what I imagined. To all people. I would have voted for someone else in the primary. I have said it numerous times, he drives me crazy. I have pro Trump buddies that don’t get my opinion on him. Including my own parents. But he is the candidate, and while I agree, others would have made this a lot easier, he is the clear policy choice at the moment. He is the nominee.


That being said, only recognizing Trump as a poor candidate from you, totally gives a pass to the hold my beer movement from the left. Hillary, Biden and Harris. Biden was thrown out of an election for cheating. Ironic. Harris was thrown out for how bad her own record is. When used against her by tulsi she had no answers. Do I really need to address how bad Hillary was? She was the only person that could be nominated and lose to Trump.

And right now the policies they stand for aren’t real. Kamala has flipped on over 20 positions she had four years ago. In the 80’s and 90’s Biden was more like a republican than democrat. It is why Obama chose him to balance the ticket. Biden has no clue what he stands for anymore. Big example. Calling sanctuary cities dumps in 08. Then allowing 7.2 million to come flying into those cities unabated. Hillary, Biden, and Harris are only concerned with policy position that will keep them in power. Sad place imo from both sides.
 
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Dont you live in Korea?

If Trump is such a bad candidate why wasnt Biden kicking his ass? Why isnt Harris 10 points ahead already? Why did 77 million people vote for him last election?

Also , if you were having a good faith argument ( debatable) you could say that a Republican candidate would have a very hard time fighting against the media which is entirely in the bag for the Dems.
I’m voting for Trump, but if you think he isn’t a bad candidate you aren’t being objective. His negatives are too high and he shoots himself in the foot every chance he gets. The Democrats constantly set landmines for him and he steps on them every time. He would have been re-elected in 2020 if he could have learned to STFU, and he doesn’t seem to have learned any lessons. I vote on principles and ideas so I am voting for Trump no matter what, but many people vote on personality and he is sabotaging his own efforts with a sizable portion of independents.
 
I’m voting for Trump, but if you think he isn’t a bad candidate you aren’t being objective. His negatives are too high and he shoots himself in the foot every chance he gets. The Democrats constantly set landmines for him and he steps on them every time. He would have been re-elected in 2020 if he could have learned to STFU, and he doesn’t seem to have learned any lessons. I vote on principles and ideas so I am voting for Trump no matter what, but many people vote on personality and he is sabotaging his own efforts with a sizable portion of independents.
Yep. This is what worries me. Should be a landslide old friend if he just lets the implosion from the other side continue. Example. The dictator comment. Anyone with half a brain knows what he is getting at. So many out there with less than half a brain voting however think it is real. For god sake they put it in an ad just calling their own base, and independents too stupid to know better without saying it. Trump could have explained that he will be using some executive orders day one. All would be fine. You can even see Hannity duck his head after his answer. He was letting him clear it up. Trump doubles down. He just isn’t a politician. Doesn’t care to be one. It is what revs up the people that totally revere him. I get it. But it may keep him from getting elected for sure.
 
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You and I have always agreed there. His mouth is his biggest weakness. The other side can’t talk without a prompter. One, because he was obviously compromised. The other because she isn’t smart enough. He talks too damn much without a prompter. And to anyone who will listen.

The name calling and attacks rev up his main base. They do nothing for votes he may have won over and trying to keep. Or ones in the fence. The guys on the left are right about that. It can’t be denied
He has driven people like me away. I've voted Republican since I was able to vote. I will not vote for Trump. No way.
 
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