Creed was and is the last great band. I am excited they’ll tour again.
NonDawg I admit I'm massively out of touch regardling Taylor Swift...
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Just wanted to second this sentiment. There are more ways now to be successful as a musician than there was 20,30 years ago. Sites like Bandcamp allow artists to publish records without major label backing. As long as you’re even marginally plugged into the news about a genre that interests you, you can get introduced to endless new artists. Truly a golden age for music, even though the mainstream is filled with a lot of cookie-cutter blandness.
I consider myself a music aficionado with excellent taste. I've listened to everything Taylor swift has released, and I still don't get why she's as popular as she is. She's broken every record for sold out shows and has a bigger fanbase than anyone before her excluding the beatlemania years. She writes her own stuff but it all sounds extremely over produced with autotune edits. I'll never understand it.
Then again, I still don't understand why Beyonce has won more grammy's than anyone on the planet.
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Yep. I think when people say “there’s no good music” what they’re really saying is there will never be another Led Zeppelin, Stones etc. And there probably won’t be. But there is a crazy amount of good music being made
Good music will likely always be made, but good music doesn't 'win the day' anymore. What's getting lost in all the white-pills we're shoving down our throats here, is that 4 people in a room of 100 (and I think I'm being kind) aren't attracted like a moth to arguably bad and certainly dumbed down music.
Yeah, bad music may inspire some troubadors... but my problem isn't production one, it's consumption one.
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These guys are fairly new from the Netherlands, playing live here at a random guitar store in Germany. This is talent. They just randomly appeared in my feed the other day. I've already ordered one of their live LPs to my collection.
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Word. King of the offseason. Lol
In the words of Merle Haggard…..
I thank God for Marty Stuart
Every time he's through
And thanks to Willie Nelson
And thanks to Emmylou
Hey, we gotta be more demanding
Down at the corner pub
There's too much boogie woogie
And not enough Ernest Tubb
I thank God for Marty Stuart
Every time he's through
And thanks to Willie Nelson
And thanks to Emmylou
Hey, we gotta be more demanding
Down at the corner pub
There's too much boogie woogie
And not enough Ernest Tubb
I think a lot of what goes into the musical divide is those the listen to the radio and those that don't. My teenaged daughter doesn't listen to the radio much, but listens a lot to streaming services like Spotify, amazon music, etc. She listens to channels and likes and dislikes songs and of course the services start to hone into what she likes. To my shock (initially) she ended up playing a lot of the older stuff that I like. When I started turning up the volume, she was like how do you know this song? I'm like shit, this song is like 30 years old. She had no idea.
Any Taylor Swift questions should be directed to @BaileyDawg79
She doesn't have a spell on just 12 year old girls, but most of their mothers as well. Her audience is pretty vast. She's pretty young, but has been in the music biz for a long time.
I don't care for her music, I'm more of an alternative and classic rock guy myself.
However, I totally respect her music writing abilities, showmanship and business savvy.
I can't go there based on the little I've heard. But she is no doubt on top of an industry/had staying power in a culture that's at an all time low... and I don't think just any person could do that.
1989 is a pop masterpiece. Like it or not, it's a clinic in how to write and produce a pop album.
So very true. Some of us from earlier eras are afraid to be the old man yelling at the sky and fall into the trap that "my particular era is the only music." But it does seem like the sheer craft of song writing, that once came from the stage early in the twentieth century, then from the Brill Building with folks like Carole King and other geniuses, then of course the Beatles, is pretty much dead. The best songwriters often didn't perform at all, and the best lyricists wrote no notes. Just a whole lot of genius around in the sixties and seventies, and so much of that stuff still sounds good. Maybe the current music will, too. But I know a lot of folks who are millennial and later who really love old music.
"there's no good music" usually comes from someone of a certain age, no matter the generation
To me, the question is more how to find the good new music without sifting through all of the music that I do not care for.
I have been resisting my daughter’s plan to take me to a Mountain Goats concert for months now.
Of course the last three artists I’ve seen in concert are Cocker, Dylan, and Willie so I am sure I qualify as an Oulde.
Let’s be careful praising her “business savvy,” as her total lack of business acumen is how we ended up with an entire series of “Taylor’s Version” albums…
She got dunked on by her original manager…
Need to go find a singer this guy is not it. Other than his inability to sing I like them/him.
Agree 100%. Problem is, when Zep, ACDC, etc were around, it was in your face. Now you have to really work to find the good stuff. Its there, but you arent going to find it on the standard stations.
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No doubt. Scooter’s lawyer worked at H&K, I’m sure, which is why he ended up on the right side of that whole deal.
Amirite, @ggr1986 ?!?!
It's a good point you make, especially in the age of streaming and self-production. I'm an older adult too but I'm also a musician so I keep up with a lot of different genres and trends. It's a lot of work to sift through it all no doubt.
She's definitely not as big as she is because of business saavy. She writes good pop songs. Not everyone likes them (and she is not in my listening rotation), but a whole lot of people do - respected artists included.
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Eric Clapton is boring and uninspired? He's a legend in the music community, so I'm stumped on this one. How does Drake even end up in the same conversation?
I'm pretty confident that, in due time, AI will do a better job at composing music and lyrics than is humanly possible. Finding a human who can perform what AI generates will be key, until the inevitable day arrives where AI will also perform music better than any human can.
AI will have the same impact on football game plan creation and play calling. When you think it through, you'll understand that humans will eventually become the weakest link at some point. Humans are just too human, frought with mistakes and imperfections that will compare disfavorably to the technological future state.
The upcoming reality with AI will be similar to when men using pencils and paper were eclipsed by machines at doing math.
AI will have the same impact on football game plan creation and play calling. When you think it through, you'll understand that humans will eventually become the weakest link at some point. Humans are just too human, frought with mistakes and imperfections that will compare disfavorably to the technological future state.
The upcoming reality with AI will be similar to when men using pencils and paper were eclipsed by machines at doing math.
I went to a Kesem/UGA event yesterday and a Taylor Swift song came on and ALL the ladies (kids, counselors, adults, different races, etc) were singing or mouthing the words. I mean it seemed almost subconscious for some of them. We had a sleepover for a group of 8 year old girls a couple of weeks ago. They only listened to Taylor and they knew every word. I know realize what a phenomenon she has become
Sounds like the makings of a cult.
She's a self made billionaire. So sure, she was naive at one point, but it seems she made a pretty good recovery. Wouldn't you agree?
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Yeah, it feels like judging Sam Walton for failing at several business before he founded Walmart. Easy to judge from the outside.
I was stuck in the 80s and early 90s forever. Now that my kids are older, love music, and go to shows, I decided to download the top five songs from Apple Music of every show they go to. It’s been a fun way to learn new music and connect with the kids. Some of the bands suck, but i found my joy, lany, John cragie, the band Camino, valley, Noah kahan, and even a rainbow kitten surprise song that i like. I even hum along to a few Taylor swift songs.
On a side note my daughter texted me a few days ago saying she couldn’t decide if she was pulling for Taylor swift or roquan smith🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️. I said, be a smithie
On a side note my daughter texted me a few days ago saying she couldn’t decide if she was pulling for Taylor swift or roquan smith🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️. I said, be a smithie
Agree 100%, guess im old and biased , but today’s music just sucks period. I was fortunate enough to grow up during the late 60’s, 70’s and 80’s. Stones, Pink Floyd, Zeppelin, The Who, Kinks, Clapton, Beatles, Crosby stills, Nash, Neil Young….i could go on and on. Even the County genre was better, Dwight Yokum, Waylon Jennings, Jerry Jeff Walker, Johnny Cash.
Is Taylor Swift talented? Sure. But i would take Madonna over her all day long. I grew up in Athens but dont give a rats ass about REM, Swimming Pool Qi’s, Pylon or all of those other “cool bands” that were saturating Athens back in the 80’s.Traffic, Uriah Heap, Humble Pie, Blue Oyster Cult, Foghat, Fleetwood Mac, Eagles, Skynard, Marshall Tucker Band…..I could go on and on. We will never see an era like that again in our lifetime. Now its all choreographed dancers, with little or zero substance in actual songwriting amnd playing instruments.
She is obviously talented, but all of her music sounds the same To me. The stuff they call “country music” now is just straight up pop music garbage for the most part, guy with Timmy Tebow haircuts playing bro-country poppy shit, I took my daughter and her friends to swifts 1989 tour a few years back, it was painful. Very sterile and generic. My first concert was on May 8th, 1977 at the Stege , tickets were $6.00 a piece but my mom worked with the university Union at Memorial Hall and they were working with Alex Cooley at the time-so they were free to me. I was 14 year old at the time and it was the most eye-opening experience in my life. Neil Young can write better songs in his sleep than most artists today,
I ran into Mickey thomas at the Marriott hotel in south Beach back in 2014,we rode the elevator up to our respective floors and I personally thanked him for the music he gave us during our youth (Jeffreson Starship/ Elvin Bishop Band, i told him “Mickey, your music never gets old, even my kids listen to it” his response” That’s why they all is “classic Rock”,,,,,,it never gets old. BTW, Mickey sang lead vocals on “Fooled around and fell in love:“ with Eklvin Bishop and hails from Cairo Georgia.
Like her or not the girl is talented. Few can write their own lyrics anymore and she is tremendous at it. I'm not her biggest fan but I will acknowledge that she has serious talent.
I refuse to give her too much credit for something that shouldn't be thar big of a deal.
