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SIAP Dabo trending on twitter again...

I’ll take a swing at it for y’all then. What he said wasn’t wrong just a very incomplete picture of reality for a lot of people. The people that he says can move are expressing their freedom of speech. Our country can do a lot better. We have a huge legacy of poverty and other things things we should work on especially illiteracy. Just cherry picking a few facts doesn’t get at it. He’s disconnected without empathy. He’s still a great football coach though.
 
Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences or critique. A desire of speech without critique is some grade A snowflake stuff.
Who said he was afraid of criticism?

Send it. All you got. Let's have a *discussion *.

But it is way past "criticism" at this point. The cancel culture is real and ruining lives where unacceptable speech must be punished, not criticized.
 
I mean he isn’t really wrong ya know

if you hate it so much anyone is more than welcome to leave

nobody is making you stay
Agree with Dabo or not, this is the dumbest political take I see people say all the time. You realize that we live in a democratic Republic right? Which means that we have the freedom to change and advocate for things that we want right? Like, do you think that our social and political expectations have been unchanged since 1789? Have you never had a disagreement with the way the country was being run? Why didn't you just leave? Is it bc you are an American and you want to see your country improve? Also, plenty of things are stopping you from just getting up and going to another country. It's actually pretty difficult to change your citizenship, and if you don't want to pay taxes to two countries, you have to completely renounce your American citizenship. Think what you want about what Dabo said, idgaf, but use better reasoning that is both practical and not un-American.
 
Doesn't help Dabo with the CPI logo hanging in the background. Their CEO was ousted due to racial remarks.
 
Dabo is free to express his opinion. However, for a guy who makes his living largely on the backs of young African American men, it comes off as tone deaf. Saying that folks who hold different views need to “move to a different country” is a cop out and belittles their concerns.

Whether you agree or disagree with him, I’d bet there are a number of men that he coaches and recruits that don’t agree with him. Not a good look, IMO.
 
Dabo is free to express his opinion. However, for a guy who makes his living largely on the backs of young African American men, it comes off as tone deaf. Saying that folks who hold different views need to “move to a different country” is a cop out and belittles their concerns.

Whether you agree or disagree with him, I’d bet there are a number of men that he coaches and recruits that don’t agree with him. Not a good look, IMO.
This is from 2016
 
Dabo is free to express his opinion. However, for a guy who makes his living largely on the backs of young African American men, it comes off as tone deaf. Saying that folks who hold different views need to “move to a different country” is a cop out and belittles their concerns.

Whether you agree or disagree with him, I’d bet there are a number of men that he coaches and recruits that don’t agree with him. Not a good look, IMO.

There is a time to tell the truth no matter what your job is.
 
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I’ll take a swing at it for y’all then. What he said wasn’t wrong just a very incomplete picture of reality for a lot of people. The people that he says can move are expressing their freedom of speech. Our country can do a lot better. We have a huge legacy of poverty and other things things we should work on especially illiteracy. Just cherry picking a few facts doesn’t get at it. He’s disconnected without empathy. He’s still a great football coach though.
I would say the biggest thing we should work on is out of wedlock childbirth.
 
Agree with Dabo or not, this is the dumbest political take I see people say all the time. You realize that we live in a democratic Republic right? Which means that we have the freedom to change and advocate for things that we want right? Like, do you think that our social and political expectations have been unchanged since 1789? Have you never had a disagreement with the way the country was being run? Why didn't you just leave? Is it bc you are an American and you want to see your country improve? Also, plenty of things are stopping you from just getting up and going to another country. It's actually pretty difficult to change your citizenship, and if you don't want to pay taxes to two countries, you have to completely renounce your American citizenship. Think what you want about what Dabo said, idgaf, but use better reasoning that is both practical and not un-American.

Yeah I realize where we live...been here long enough. No I don’t think the government or expectations are the same for 200 plus years. Yes I have had a disagreement with the way the country has been run. Of course we want the country to improve who doesn’t.

there is a difference in folks who hate this country and folks who want this country to evolve/improve for the betterment of its citizens

I stand by what the hell I said. If you so dearly hate this country there are plenty of countries that you can move to that might suit your ideals and beliefs Better....anything wrong with that????

Parading the streets, looting public business, Vandalizing public property that doesn’t belong to you reeking havoc over 6 square blocks of an American city while taking over police precincts under the premise of socialist and communist ideals....is hatred. That does not belong here and you are welcome to carry those ideas to another country.
 
Oh was waiting for this.

At some point, when the entire weight of non-governmental force is *encouraged* to be brought against anyone who says the "wrong thing" the right to free speech loses meaning.

And I mean the larger right to free speech. As in, we are all better when we can all speak our minds reasonably, whatever the setting.

Your fallacy is assuming that I meant government action that limits free speech. Nope. I mean private sector action that scares the hell out of people and keeps them from uttering a word that might end their livelihoods.

That is not how people should have to live in any sector of life IMO.
This is such a stupid take.
This doesn’t even make sense.
Let me try again. Let's say your boss goes from humping your wife to humping your dog. Should you be content with the fact that your boss is no longer giving the business to your wife, or should you continue to strive to stop your boss from humping any of your loved ones?
 
Yeah I realize where we live...been here long enough. No I don’t think the government or expectations are the same for 200 plus years. Yes I have had a disagreement with the way the country has been run. Of course we want the country to improve who doesn’t.

there is a difference in folks who hate this country and folks who want this country to evolve/improve for the betterment of its citizens

I stand by what the hell I said. If you so dearly hate this country there are plenty of countries that you can move to that might suit your ideals and beliefs Better....anything wrong with that????

Parading the streets, looting public business, Vandalizing public property that doesn’t belong to you reeking havoc over 6 square blocks of an American city while taking over police precincts under the premise of socialist and communist ideals....is hatred. That does not belong here and you are welcome to carry those ideas to another country.
Perhaps we should've listened THE FIRST 1000 TIMES THE ISSUE WAS BROUGHT UP! The 'true patriots' couldn't even handle guys kneeling.
 
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Ah, so pointing out that our country freely elected an African-American president twice, by large margins, as a sign of the progress our nation has made is... Idiotic?

Damn the lengths some folks go to these days to beat hell out of other folks...
And how did your segment of the population handle that man's election?
 
Who said he was afraid of criticism?

Send it. All you got. Let's have a *discussion *.

But it is way past "criticism" at this point. The cancel culture is real and ruining lives where unacceptable speech must be punished, not criticized.
Define cancel culture. Should speech be free of consequence?
 
Perhaps we should've listened THE FIRST 1000 TIMES THE ISSUE WAS BROUGHT UP! The 'true patriots' couldn't even handle guys kneeling.

I don’t like the kneeling but If that’s a way You feel
Best to protest and exercise your 1rst amendment righT then so be it. Don’t like it or agree with it but it doesn’t show hatred in my opinion
 
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Oh was waiting for this.

At some point, when the entire weight of non-governmental force is *encouraged* to be brought against anyone who says the "wrong thing" the right to free speech loses meaning.

And I mean the larger right to free speech. As in, we are all better when we can all speak our minds reasonably, whatever the setting.

Your fallacy is assuming that I meant government action that limits free speech. Nope. I mean private sector action that scares the hell out of people and keeps them from uttering a word that might end their livelihoods.

That is not how people should have to live in any sector of life IMO.

Say whatever you want - even when it is moronic and idiotic. But live with the consequences of your stupidity.
 
Ah, so pointing out that our country freely elected an African-American president twice, by large margins, as a sign of the progress our nation has made is... Idiotic?

Damn the lengths some folks go to these days to beat hell out of other folks...

Progress, yes, full solution, no. And the right answer is leave the country instead of make it better/stand up for what you believe? Imbecilic. Oh, and un-American, btw.
 
And how did your segment of the population handle that man's election?
If you were not responding to me I would nuke this post for racial innuendo.

However I do not do such when someone is addressing something I said.

Using racial stereotypes of any sort is wrong and makes this problem worse, especially since you do not know a thing about me or "my segment of the population".

(Wants to point out he happened to be a god father to a black African refugee child he helped come to the US but what difference does it make to a guy on a roll...)
 
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Progress, yes, full solution, no. And the right answer is leave the country instead of make it better/stand up for what you believe? Imbecilic. Oh, and un-American, btw.

So I believe Dabo’s point was that progress has been made (which you admitted), and that this is still the greatest country in the world. So if you agree that progress has been made, your area of disagreement must be about the latter. What is your argument here?
 
Progress, yes, full solution, no. And the right answer is leave the country instead of make it better/stand up for what you believe? Imbecilic. Oh, and un-American, btw.
Please let me remind you what I was responding to:

Well, it’s not reasonable to say, “well, we had a black president so everything is kosher.” That’s not a good take. It’s an idiotic take.

I was not addressing the "leave" comments by Dabo. I was addressing Husker's (mis)representation of Dabo's comment on the election of a black president.

The election / re-election of Obama was a tremendous step forward for the US on racial reconciliation and progress. I will personally long remember the celebration in black communities and what it meant as history and healing for them.

I cared little for his politics but was grateful for what his elections represented to people who had been legally denied the vote but lived long enough to help elect him president.

To dismiss the importance of that to our country is hard to fathom.
 
So I believe Dabo’s point was that progress has been made (which you admitted), and that this is still the greatest country in the world. So if you agree that progress has been made, your area of disagreement must be about the latter. What is your argument here?
He’s telling people they should leave if we are not satisfied and think there is more room to be better....pretty straightforward actually. You should read more. Amazing how that affects brain function.
 
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So, let's sum up: we've done enough so now, shut up; it's better than slavery and Jim Crow so, whaddya want from us?; criticism is un-American if you're criticizing those with the power; mediocrity is our goal.

Again, being good at one thing doesn't make one's opinions on other topics unworthy of respect, but it also doesn't mean you can't be full of shit. Dabo is the latter, in this instance.
I think a black president, far exceeds mediocrity, and to make light of that, shows a lack of understanding of the real progress this country has made. Unfortunately, the corruption and disaster of that administration, is why Trump got elected. I hope this moment in time, will not be wasted, and that more real and lasting progress will be made, But it won't come from those using racism as a way to push socialism or marxism. We all know how that always turns out. Over the past few days I have been encouraged, by many voices coming from the black community, pushing back against the far left, and willing to start a dialogue about the many issues facing black communities. I have a feeling there is going to be a reckoning politically, and it is going to shake the powers that be. I think there is going to be a spiritual revival started in the black community, that will touch the nation and send the entire country in a different direction. They will produce leaders that will tackle real issues, and reverse the horrible policies of the last 50 years, that has caused the breakdown of families, crime , poverty. and poor education. It won't be easy, and the party of Jim Crowe and slavery will try to stop them, but this time I think enough people will see through the division and hypocrisy and push through to a new day.
 
This is such a stupid take.

Let me try again. Let's say your boss goes from humping your wife to humping your dog. Should you be content with the fact that your boss is no longer giving the business to your wife, or should you continue to strive to stop your boss from humping any of your loved ones?
Well if I'm a liberal, I would defend his right to identify as a dog humper, and push for a way to have it put into text books for elementary school.
 
I think a black president, far exceeds mediocrity, and to make light of that, shows a lack of understanding of the real progress this country has made. Unfortunately, the corruption and disaster of that administration, is why Trump got elected. I hope this moment in time, will not be wasted, and that more real and lasting progress will be made, But it won't come from those using racism as a way to push socialism or marxism. We all know how that always turns out. Over the past few days I have been encouraged, by many voices coming from the black community, pushing back against the far left, and willing to start a dialogue about the many issues facing black communities. I have a feeling there is going to be a reckoning politically, and it is going to shake the powers that be. I think there is going to be a spiritual revival started in the black community, that will touch the nation and send the entire country in a different direction. They will produce leaders that will tackle real issues, and reverse the horrible policies of the last 50 years, that has caused the breakdown of families, crime , poverty. and poor education. It won't be easy, and the party of Jim Crowe and slavery will try to stop them, but this time I think enough people will see through the division and hypocrisy and push through to a new day.
This is like a nice summation of the right's misunderstanding and misrepresentation of history and current events. Kudo's on the precision; it is rare for someone to be 100 percent wrong.
 
Maybe he’s not right, but he’s not wrong either. Everyone loves to say we need an open and honest dialogue about “systemic racism” and everything. People like open, that fires up the media and social media. People don’t like the HONEST part tho. Frederick Douglass’s monument In Massachusetts was just torn down this past weekend by protesters. Frederick Douglass! 67 people shot in Chicago this past weekend, none by cops. We’re good with the “open”, struggling with the “honest.”
 
I’m not saying what he says is wrong, but, we should not be satisfied that there was a two term African American president, or interracial marriages and churches. There are still injustices going on and it’s time to completely eradicate racism and discrimination.

Now if he is talking about comparing the United States to other countries, then the statement that you should go to another country is acceptable. However, if he is telling people to move to another country if you don’t like the current status in the United States, then he is clearly wrong. It’s open to interpretation if he is not willing to clarify.
 
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