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Weird. All the Dem posters here…

what policy changes will allow that?

And ^^^this^^^ was sort of the point of my post.
You’re asking me to speculate? Well in other countries where it has happened they have claimed that the government was infiltrated by enemies of the state and that they needed to be rooted out and that the elections were controlled by those enemies so those elections must be delayed until they could be assured of fairness. Alternatively, he could push for an alternative interpretation of the 22nd amendment. For example, arguing that he could run in the 2nd position and then the electors could presumably switch them. Lastly, he could attempt to amend the constitution (Putin-style), but unlike in Russia our amendment process is quite difficult so I very much doubt that could work.

Typically, rights and legal protections are most effectively eroded in a crisis. He could claim the border issue or some deep state conspiracy justifies him to act under his emergency/inherent national security powers. This is all raw speculation and far too premature. Even typing it seems outlandish. But I think COVID taught us that our systems are much more fragile than we ever thought.
 
You’re asking me to speculate? Well in other countries where it has happened they have claimed that the government was infiltrated by enemies of the state and that they needed to be rooted out and that the elections were controlled by those enemies so those elections must be delayed until they could be assured of fairness. Alternatively, he could push for an alternative interpretation of the 22nd amendment. For example, arguing that he could run in the 2nd position and then the electors could presumably switch them. Lastly, he could attempt to amend the constitution (Putin-style), but unlike in Russia our amendment process is quite difficult so I very much doubt that could work.

Typically, rights and legal protections are most effectively eroded in a crisis. He could claim the border issue or some deep state conspiracy justifies him to act under his emergency/inherent national security powers. This is all raw speculation and far too premature. Even typing it seems outlandish. But I think COVID taught us that our systems are much more fragile than we ever thought.
I guess any of that is possible. But COVID is where Democrats showed their authoritarian side, not Republicans.

Democrats are statists and would do anything to increase power of the state and decrease power of the citizen.

Remember when CDC tried to claim they could tell landlords to whom they could rent and evict? Absurd. And unconstitutional. But that is what democrats want and Covid was their/ your perfect excuse to use emergency powers to act on every look left wing impulse.
 
You’re asking me to speculate? Well in other countries where it has happened they have claimed that the government was infiltrated by enemies of the state and that they needed to be rooted out and that the elections were controlled by those enemies so those elections must be delayed until they could be assured of fairness. Alternatively, he could push for an alternative interpretation of the 22nd amendment. For example, arguing that he could run in the 2nd position and then the electors could presumably switch them. Lastly, he could attempt to amend the constitution (Putin-style), but unlike in Russia our amendment process is quite difficult so I very much doubt that could work.

Typically, rights and legal protections are most effectively eroded in a crisis. He could claim the border issue or some deep state conspiracy justifies him to act under his emergency/inherent national security powers. This is all raw speculation and far too premature. Even typing it seems outlandish. But I think COVID taught us that our systems are much more fragile than we ever thought.
Sounds like a lot of speculation..

He didn’t do any of this before, why do you think he would do it now??

I guess more than one can play this silly little game.

Here is what I “speculate”……you are like a lot of others and are trying to sell fear when you know absolutely nothing.

How’s this….I “speculate” that DJT is NOT a threat to democracy and you are FOS.

You brought up all this crazy shat, but have nothing to back it up with other than hot air. Most that believe he is not a threat at least have a history to go on, you have nothing.

You:

But the reality is that if enough of his policy changes go through, the system will be so weakened that it will only be a matter of time before someone finds a way to stay in the White House permanently.”

I also “speculate” he is running again for the love of his country. He certainly doesn’t need the money and I am pretty sure he won’t drop of of the race after yesterday,
 
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Sounds like a lot of speculation..

He didn’t do any of this before, why do you think he would do it now??

I guess more than one can play that silly little game.

Here is what I “speculate”……you are like a lot of others and are trying to sell fear when you know absolutely nothing.

How’s this….I “speculate” that DJT is NOT a threat to democracy and you are FOS.

You brought up all this crazy shat, but have nothing to back it up with other than hot air. Most that believe he is not a threat at least have a history to go on, you have nothing.

You:

But the reality is that if enough of his policy changes go through, the system will be so weakened that it will only be a matter of time before someone finds a way to stay in the White House permanently.”

I also “speculate” he is running again for the love of his country. He certainly doesn’t need the money and I am pretty sure he won’t drop of of the race after yesterday,
I think yours is a totally fair response. He certainly hasn’t gone to this extent yet. I really hope I’m wrong. We will definitely find out though because I don’t see him losing.
 
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I guess any of that is possible. But COVID is where Democrats showed their authoritarian side, not Republicans.

Democrats are statists and would do anything to increase power of the state and decrease power of the citizen.

Remember when CDC tried to claim they could tell landlords to whom they could rent and evict? Absurd. And unconstitutional. But that is what democrats want and Covid was their/ your perfect excuse to use emergency powers to act on every look left wing impulse.
I agree that there were some extreme responses to COVID that were illegal.
 
I definitely don’t work for the government. I own a law firm and employ over 150 people. I will do very well financially under another Trump administration, as I did the last. This isn’t about that. Before civil service protections you had the spoils system where all the government employees were political loyalists and it was rife with corruption and influence-peddling FAR beyond anything we have seen in today’s government. The sort of corruption we have seen in other countries stems from this politicizing of basic government functions.
Ok then I stand corrected.
So, your biggest issue with Donald Trump being President is that a guy that just got freaking shot might choose to employ people less likely to shoot him.
Got it.
Also, though, tell us more about how giving half a billion dollars to Solyndra wasn’t part of this corrupt evil shadowy boogeyman spoils system you describe.
Tell us more about how the basic functions of government are not politicized under the current administration
 
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Ok then I stand corrected.
So, your biggest issue with Donald Trump being President is that a guy that just got freaking shot might choose to employ people less likely to shoot him.
Got it.
Also, though, tell us more about how giving half a billion dollars to Solyndra wasn’t part of this corrupt evil shadowy boogeyman spoils system you describe.
Tell us more about how the basic functions of government are not politicized under the current administration
To be honest, you’re doing a terrific job reiterating liberal talking points, but you’re doing a terrible job giving any evidence to back up your assertions.
I’m an ordinary citizen. You can bet your ass I’m voting for my own economic interests.
If I were President with an agenda to make America great again, you can bet your ass I’d fire anyone in a skinny minute who actively worked against me.
Just sit back and enjoy your coming prosperity under Trump fawty Sebbum.
You’ll be able to afford someone to check under your bed every night for spoils system.
 
did you watch it? He’s obviously joking and Colbert is laughing. Also, it’s a quick cut. Ask yourself why?
did you watch it? He’s obviously joking and Colbert is laughing. Also, it’s a quick cut. Ask yourself why?
ii axed myself why. The conclusion to which I came is that Obama thinks it’s amusing what a dip shit Biden is, like we told you, and how someone else is running the government.
I know.- the Shadow Government currently in charge is an imaginary boogeyman invented by conservatives in their own minds.
He’s hiding under your bed beside Spoils System. Please look for him!
When is the last time someone overextended their stay??….and what policy changes will allow that?
it’s my understanding that a third Trump term would require a two- thirds vote in each house and approval of 3/4 of state legislatures. That’s what consulting my COTUS told me.
I’m not a lawyer. Respecting the 22nd, where does your concern lie?
 
ii axed myself why. The conclusion to which I came is that Obama thinks it’s amusing what a dip shit Biden is, like we told you, and how someone else is running the government.
I know.- the Shadow Government currently in charge is an imaginary boogeyman invented by conservatives in their own minds.
He’s hiding under your bed beside Spoils System. Please look for him!

it’s my understanding that a third Trump term would require a two- thirds vote in each house and approval of 3/4 of state legislatures. That’s what consulting my COTUS told me.
I’m not a lawyer. Respecting the 22nd, where does your concern lie?
Not you @Eastmandawg .
@brimur
Why you so scared of bad urnge man? Because he’s pledged to surround himself with loyalists?
Really?
You think Joe Biden has not done the exact same? Well except for Obama. Obama is a haw show him the money.
 
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They’ll come back strong with calls for “sensible gun control”. It's all they got.
They will never convince (or take) our guns willingly. The common everyday gun owner will never use a gun to break a law, much less try to murder someone they do not like. I hate every second Biden has had had to ruin our nation, by stealing , lying and cheating to increase his bank account and power. I would never wish violence upon him though. He will face his crimes when he meets God on his judgment day!
The priority now is to help my family and help others, when I can to make a better life for all involved in this short time on this earth.
I saw a complete and Confident badass on that stage after nearly being killed, pump his fist and tell us to Fight, Fight ,Fight!
What a polar opposite of the man occupying the White House now! I think Trump will win by a landslide this November!
 
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Im still here. Though I do have a life, wife, kids, work, outside of this echo chamber. Just because I believe Trump to be an existential threat to democracy, does not mean that I personally support a violation of human rights. Assassination and political killings are insanely wrong. And two wrongs don’t make a right. And this only bolsters him. I really am surprised we aren’t hearing from more leftwing nuts calling this a false flag, given just how convenient this is for Trump. It basically secures him the election. So let’s talk about how he is explicitly intending to end civil service protections and hire a bunch of loyalists so we will return to basically the Spoils system. This will be bad by any measure and will further erode the effectiveness of out government. He has laid the groundwork for 8 years now with his venom (which propaganda you can hear echoed here daily) to sow distrust among the people in all basic American institutions like the courts and the media. So now you are all gleefully following his plans. You are literally handing over your democracy. Within 4 years there will be absolutely nobody left in any position of power to question almighty Trump.
Are you serious?
Willing to bet on it?
Hysterical over reaction here.
 
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I know I know, you are such a tough guy. I do remain cautiously optimistic that there will be enough rational Trump supporters to deny him in any effort he might make to extend his stay beyond 4 years. But the reality is that if enough of his policy changes go through, the system will be so weakened that it will only be a matter of time before someone finds a way to stay in the White House permanently.
Name the policy questions that concern you most.
 
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You’re asking me to speculate? Well in other countries where it has happened they have claimed that the government was infiltrated by enemies of the state and that they needed to be rooted out and that the elections were controlled by those enemies so those elections must be delayed until they could be assured of fairness. Alternatively, he could push for an alternative interpretation of the 22nd amendment. For example, arguing that he could run in the 2nd position and then the electors could presumably switch them. Lastly, he could attempt to amend the constitution (Putin-style), but unlike in Russia our amendment process is quite difficult so I very much doubt that could work.

Typically, rights and legal protections are most effectively eroded in a crisis. He could claim the border issue or some deep state conspiracy justifies him to act under his emergency/inherent national security powers. This is all raw speculation and far too premature. Even typing it seems outlandish. But I think COVID taught us that our systems are much more fragile than we ever thought.
You call it raw and premature, but nonsensical is a better description for your speculation. Nothing he has done is close to as damaging as what the left has been doing.
 
Im still here. Though I do have a life, wife, kids, work, outside of this echo chamber. Just because I believe Trump to be an existential threat to democracy, does not mean that I personally support a violation of human rights. Assassination and political killings are insanely wrong. And two wrongs don’t make a right. And this only bolsters him. I really am surprised we aren’t hearing from more leftwing nuts calling this a false flag, given just how convenient this is for Trump. It basically secures him the election. So let’s talk about how he is explicitly intending to end civil service protections and hire a bunch of loyalists so we will return to basically the Spoils system. This will be bad by any measure and will further erode the effectiveness of out government. He has laid the groundwork for 8 years now with his venom (which propaganda you can hear echoed here daily) to sow distrust among the people in all basic American institutions like the courts and the media. So now you are all gleefully following his plans. You are literally handing over your democracy. Within 4 years there will be absolutely nobody left in any position of power to question almighty Trump.
You are acting like a fool bro.
 
Im still here. Though I do have a life, wife, kids, work, outside of this echo chamber. Just because I believe Trump to be an existential threat to democracy, does not mean that I personally support a violation of human rights. Assassination and political killings are insanely wrong. And two wrongs don’t make a right. And this only bolsters him. I really am surprised we aren’t hearing from more leftwing nuts calling this a false flag, given just how convenient this is for Trump. It basically secures him the election. So let’s talk about how he is explicitly intending to end civil service protections and hire a bunch of loyalists so we will return to basically the Spoils system. This will be bad by any measure and will further erode the effectiveness of out government. He has laid the groundwork for 8 years now with his venom (which propaganda you can hear echoed here daily) to sow distrust among the people in all basic American institutions like the courts and the media. So now you are all gleefully following his plans. You are literally handing over your democracy. Within 4 years there will be absolutely nobody left in any position of power to question almighty Trump.
The grand brain of Thomas Jefferson made sure this nation was not a democracy, but a republic.
 
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Guess you forgot about January 6th. Or do you still think it was antifa or the FBI?
Jan 6th I still wide open for explanation. FBI Dir Wray refuses to acknowledge how many FBI agents were imbedded in the crowd. Was Ray Epps a hired instigator? Pelosi is on video accepting responsibility for the chaos. She failed to advise Cap Police of potential trouble, she did not secure Additional security assets. Jan 6 became a riot and trespassing. No weapons, Cap Police even escorted trespassers into the building. No doubt there were some bad actors in the crowd. Why was the BLM member who was leading a group released without charges? Those who broke windows,damaged property, assaulted people absolutely should be prosecuted appropriately. Sitting in solitary 22 hrs day, forced training, no trial after 3 hrs is unacceptable which any reasonable person should deplore. Sentencing a 75 yr old Granny from Indiana, undergoing chemo, who stepped inside for 45 secs ( according to security video) for a photo, should not be serving 3 hrs in Fed prison in Calif

The Antifa/BLM riots of 2020 were far worse, Billions in property damage, multiple deaths, thousands injured, not a single person pursued by Biden’s DOJ, why is that? Two Attys in NYC who threw a Molotov cocktail into a Police Car with officers inside received reduced charges, no time, weren’t disbarred.
 
Jan 6th I still wide open for explanation. FBI Dir Wray refuses to acknowledge how many FBI agents were imbedded in the crowd. Was Ray Epps a hired instigator? Pelosi is on video accepting responsibility for the chaos. She failed to advise Cap Police of potential trouble, she did not secure Additional security assets. Jan 6 became a riot and trespassing. No weapons, Cap Police even escorted trespassers into the building. No doubt there were some bad actors in the crowd. Why was the BLM member who was leading a group released without charges? Those who broke windows,damaged property, assaulted people absolutely should be prosecuted appropriately. Sitting in solitary 22 hrs day, forced training, no trial after 3 hrs is unacceptable which any reasonable person should deplore. Sentencing a 75 yr old Granny from Indiana, undergoing chemo, who stepped inside for 45 secs ( according to security video) for a photo, should not be serving 3 hrs in Fed prison in Calif

The Antifa/BLM riots of 2020 were far worse, Billions in property damage, multiple deaths, thousands injured, not a single person pursued by Biden’s DOJ, why is that? Two Attys in NYC who threw a Molotov cocktail into a Police Car with officers inside received reduced charges, no time, weren’t disbarred.
J6 happened because Trump lied about fraud, lost the election, lied some more about fraud, called his gang to DC on the day of certification he wanted to prevent, held a rally, told his followers to go fight for the country and sat and watched them attack the Capitol for three hours before telling them to go home.

The summer riots happened because three LEOs stood around and watched one LEO choke a man to death and it was all captured on video.

I don't understand why everybody is angry at the Dems about the assassination attempt. Nobody has said anything about Trump that he hasn't said about Biden, Clinton, Judges, prosecutors and many others.

At the end of the day, one republican shot another republican after openly carrying in a state where republicans passed an open carry law, using a rifle that only republicans want to remain legal. Seems an inhouse problem to me.
 
Biden is the tyrant my friend. Or I guess I should say Obama and Soros are the tyrants. Joe is just the mouthpiece. The globalist cabal is what they are. Once you realize that you will be on the road to recovery.
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I’m a rational Trump supporter. I’m supporting him because my choice dropped out before our primary. If he gets old like the big guy (actually big boy- that media nobody trusts because of Donald Trump 🙄listened and said he was having a big boy press conference) and is clearly unable to govern then no I will not support him.
Joe Biden is clearly unable to govern. He likely has never really even done so. Just walked around shaking hand with the air and talking about Corn Pop and cannibalized uncles.
Because of the media covering up his glaring health condition, here’s where the Democrats are.
Yet, it’s likely Joe Biden is going to be the nominee for the Democrats.
Since he is clearly not capable of running the US of A for four years, and I’m not interested in debating that you know it and I know it, the question becomes:
When you vote for Joe Biden anyhow, knowing he is incapable of running OUR country,
Are you going to consider yourself a rational Biden supporter?
Biden wasn't competent to do the job when he was elected in 2020.... what's gonna stop the Dems from running him again?
 
J6 happened because Trump lied about fraud, lost the election, lied some more about fraud, called his gang to DC on the day of certification he wanted to prevent, held a rally, told his followers to go fight for the country and sat and watched them attack the Capitol for three hours before telling them to go home.

The summer riots happened because three LEOs stood around and watched one LEO choke a man to death and it was all captured on video.

I don't understand why everybody is angry at the Dems about the assassination attempt. Nobody has said anything about Trump that he hasn't said about Biden, Clinton, Judges, prosecutors and many others.

At the end of the day, one republican shot another republican after openly carrying in a state where republicans passed an open carry law, using a rifle that only republicans want to remain legal. Seems an inhouse problem to me.
And....trump said his VP deserved to be hanged on Jan 6....

...but Dems are the ones with violent rhetoric....
 
Jan 6th I still wide open for explanation. FBI Dir Wray refuses to acknowledge how many FBI agents were imbedded in the crowd. Was Ray Epps a hired instigator? Pelosi is on video accepting responsibility for the chaos. She failed to advise Cap Police of potential trouble, she did not secure Additional security assets. Jan 6 became a riot and trespassing. No weapons, Cap Police even escorted trespassers into the building. No doubt there were some bad actors in the crowd. Why was the BLM member who was leading a group released without charges? Those who broke windows, damaged property, assaulted people absolutely should be prosecuted appropriately. Sitting in solitary 22 hrs day, forced training, no trial after 3 hrs is unacceptable which any reasonable person should deplore. Sentencing a 75 yr old Granny from Indiana, undergoing chemo, who stepped inside for 45 secs ( according to security video) for a photo, should not be serving 3 hrs in Fed prison in Calif

The Antifa/BLM riots of 2020 were far worse, Billions in property damage, multiple deaths, thousands injured, not a single person pursued by Biden’s DOJ, why is that? Two Attys in NYC who threw a Molotov cocktail into a Police Car with officers inside received reduced charges, no time, weren’t disbarred.

The most overblown situation of modern times. Proof of liberal propaganda and the lemmings like you eat it up. How many FBI agents played a role in instigating that set up? I bet you don’t know the answer.
Overblown? Five people died from the January 6 insurrection. 140 Capitol police officers were hurt. Over 1,000 people were charged, 750 of those were convicted including the leaders of the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.

FBI? How many episodes have you watched of Tucker, InfoWars, and War Room?
 
J6 happened because Trump lied about fraud, lost the election, lied some more about fraud, called his gang to DC on the day of certification he wanted to prevent, held a rally, told his followers to go fight for the country and sat and watched them attack the Capitol for three hours before telling them to go home.

The summer riots happened because three LEOs stood around and watched one LEO choke a man to death and it was all captured on video.

I don't understand why everybody is angry at the Dems about the assassination attempt. Nobody has said anything about Trump that he hasn't said about Biden, Clinton, Judges, prosecutors and many others.

At the end of the day, one republican shot another republican after openly carrying in a state where republicans passed an open carry law, using a rifle that only republicans want to remain legal. Seems an inhouse problem to me.
1) he’s not a Republican, he’s a left-wing kook. Pennsylvania is one of the states where you can register for any party and vote in their primary. He hated Trump so much he wanted to vote against him in the primary. There were many large internet campaigns telling Pennsylvanians to do just this. My wife’s family is from there. (And I have no problem with people doing this it)
2) not sure how you can just leave out the Twitter video where Trump asked all his supporters to act peacefully and dissipate. For whatever reason, Twitter took it down 3 minutes after Trump posted it. That discovery was one of the main reasons Elon wanted to buy Twitter. not so much, because he likes to post, which he was already able to do, but because we found out, they were actively deleting things that could impact our country. (I’m sure you will doubt everything I’m posting, so just go Google it so you have the information)
 
1) he’s not a Republican, he’s a left-wing kook. Pennsylvania is one of the states where you can register for any party and vote in their primary. He hated Trump so much he wanted to vote against him in the primary. There were many large internet campaigns telling Pennsylvanians to do just this. My wife’s family is from there. (And I have no problem with people doing this it)
2) not sure how you can just leave out the Twitter video where Trump asked all his supporters to act peacefully and dissipate. For whatever reason, Twitter took it down 3 minutes after Trump posted it. That discovery was one of the main reasons Elon wanted to buy Twitter. not so much, because he likes to post, which he was already able to do, but because we found out, they were actively deleting things that could impact our country. (I’m sure you will doubt everything I’m posting, so just go Google it so you have the information)
A lot of info available contradicts your first point. His HS peers have said he leaned conservative on ever issue. He's not a left wing kook by any stretch.

If Biden/Dems rhetoric are responsible for Saturday, trump/pubs are just as culpable for Jan 6.
 
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Overblown? Five people died from the January 6 insurrection. 140 Capitol police officers were hurt. Over 1,000 people were charged, 750 of those were convicted including the leaders of the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.

FBI? How many episodes have you watched of Tucker, InfoWars, and War Room?
Does anyone die without the undercovers instigating things? I see the fbi director answer questions about them. Did you miss it?
 
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A lot of info available contradicts your first point. His HS peers have said he leaned conservative on ever issue. He's not a left wing kook by any stretch.

If Biden/Dems rhetoric are responsible for Saturday, trump/pubs are just as culpable for Jan 6.
High school? The dude was 20, not 17. Safe to assume he went off the lefts deep end since high school.
 
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1) he’s not a Republican, he’s a left-wing kook. Pennsylvania is one of the states where you can register for any party and vote in their primary. He hated Trump so much he wanted to vote against him in the primary. There were many large internet campaigns telling Pennsylvanians to do just this. My wife’s family is from there. (And I have no problem with people doing this it)
2) not sure how you can just leave out the Twitter video where Trump asked all his supporters to act peacefully and dissipate. For whatever reason, Twitter took it down 3 minutes after Trump posted it. That discovery was one of the main reasons Elon wanted to buy Twitter. not so much, because he likes to post, which he was already able to do, but because we found out, they were actively deleting things that could impact our country. (I’m sure you will doubt everything I’m posting, so just go Google it so you have the information)
On what reports do you base the suggestion that he was a left-wing kook? The more that comes out the more it seems he was a right-wing kook.

 
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