How enlightening..especially coming from Bill Barr…we saw who the “snowflakes” were last night …front and center…lol
What an incredibly pitiful demonstration of behavior...
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Yes and you believe Trump is....what a bunch of mess. My is life beautiful with God and he has allowed me to prosper and not fall into a ditch by opening my eyes.
Thessalonians 2:11 says that God will send a strong delusion to make people believe in Satan's lies instead of the truth in order to have the same people condemned for their unrighteousness.
Good luck to you and the deceivers.
You got me, it’s BurrThis is so confusing, I want both to be true. Are you calling Bill Barr a comedian, or did you mean Bill Burr?
The "Deceivers" were run out of DC on a rail on November 5th 2024.....
Burr used to be pretty funny, but like most of them he went political and let the world know he hates Trump. Obviously that's more important than being funny. 🙄
He told the truth? You have a hard time with facts.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/03/05/us/trump-speech-congress
I was referring to Trumps comments on explaining why he has a mandate for change. His win was historic, largest increase in voters across several demographics, won every swing state, won the popular vote, increased winning the most counties etc. You might not like it but Trump has a mandate to change some of the crazy left policies to more common sense policies that the American people actually want.
Linking a liberal rag like the NY Times as a resource for an argument just doesn’t hold much water.
Why dont you just use quotes from MSNBC. Its just as reliable. Mandate. It hurts. I know.
Dems basically have a choice, go along with the ride or bend over and touch your toes. Sad but I think they’d rather make the decision to take it dry yet scream that they’ve been violated.
Trump voters getting their panties in a wad on the topic of decorum at the Capitol.
Irony is dead, buried, dug up, shot and buried again.
I'll have you know, I don't wear underwear.
But, I challenge you to provide a single example of the type of widespread, coordinated behavior the right has ever attempted like we saw. Just one. You can't.
Widespread coordinated behavior at the Capitol by the right? You really aren’t getting there, are you?I'll have you know, I don't wear underwear.
But, I challenge you to provide a single example of the type of widespread, coordinated behavior the right has ever attempted like we saw. Just one. You can't.
Maybe this will help.
They can find an occasional outburst by 1 person (MTG or Joe Smith) but the vocal leftist are becoming downright vulgar. All you have to do is listen to AOC, Crockett, any of the squad, Maxine Waters among others and their tone and language is beneath the office they hold.I'll have you know, I don't wear underwear.
But, I challenge you to provide a single example of the type of widespread, coordinated behavior the right has ever attempted like we saw. Just one. You can't.
He is talking about behavior of Congress. Not a mob of jackasses.
So, we can now include non-politicians in this argument? I'm not sure you want to open that can. You're greatly expanding the bounds of my original point, because you know their behavior was unprecedented.
Are you suddenly okay with "whataboutism", again?
Not sure that Diaper over her mouth is a good look for old Nans....maybe they couldn't smell the Gin on her breath..
The Democrats biggest issue beyond petty performance theater is they have no message. Rudderless and ineffective. "Trump Bad" has been played out, except to those (like you) who will never be convinced that anything Trump does might not be the worst thing ever.
A blanket pardon for 1500 Capital rioters there to disrupt a political process, some of whom were sentenced to well over a decade in prison for felony assault on the police.
I’d love to hear the outrage about how your choice for POTUS continues to praise and honor those people. But please continue to act offended and bemoan the loss of decorum at the Capitol.
You've completely missed the point and you had to dig out something from Aaron Rupar from Jan 23rd. Again, I don't think you want to get into a tit for tat of bad behavior by rioters on the Left vs. Right. You're also managing to completely ignore what this thread was about because it's inconvenient to your arguments and your repeated attempts to bring everything back to January 6th. It's all you have: "...yeah, but January 6th happened."
Like the Democrats, your broken record of "old reliable" has reached its expiration date. Nobody cares.
I guess it's only Republicans who can be "circus monkeys"? Maybe if they had stood up, waved a cane, and refused to sit down or be quiet, you wouldn't have had a problem with it?
You expressed righteous indignation about a loss of decorum at the Capitol.
I pointed out that the single worst day for “loss of decorum” in the history of the building was perpetrated by followers of DJT, who praised them at the time, continues to praise them and proved his unqualified support by pardoning every single last one of them.
You don’t want to acknowledge the hypocrisy because that makes for a very slippery slope. But that doesn’t change the hypocrisy.
(You may want to hold off on the 'righteous indignation' digs...hypocrisy is a bad look)
How many times does it have to be noted that this is about behavior by elected officials? And you want to discuss praising those illegally protesting? Again, I don't think this would end the way you would want it to.
Beyond the clear hypocrisy of you complaining about pardons, here's a bit more with Democrats praising "violent protestors":
- Kamala Harris on violent protests: “They’re not gonna stop… This is a movement… They’re not gonna stop before Election Day in November and they’re not gonna stop after Election Day… They’re not gonna let up and they should not, and we should not.”
- Maxine Waters: “If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd, and you push back on them, and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.” and AGAIN later “We’ve got to stay on the street, and we’ve got to get more active, we’ve got to get more confrontational, we’ve got to make sure that they know that we mean business.”
- Ayanna Pressley: “There needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there’s unrest in our lives.”
- Nancy Pelosi on the violent Portland protests, including assaulting Federal Officers “People will do what they do,”
- Devin Kelley called the burning of a police precinct “pure righteousness to open new worlds of understanding”
When did winning by only 1 percent become a mandate? He only won by 1% in swing states like Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, and in Michigan by less than a 1/2 of 1 percent. Facts Matter.
When did winning by only 1 percent become a mandate? He only won by 1% in swing states like Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, and in Michigan by less than a 1/2 of 1 percent. Facts hurt. Try harder.
Arguing that he doesn't have a mandate is stupid, by every objective measure. He won the Electoral College with 312 votes to 226 (the largest win since Obama’s 126 margin in '12), won the popular vote (which some literally laughed at here, when it was predicted) and had a rare sweep of all seven battleground states.
Not enough? His victory also came with a return of Republican control of both the Senate and House. He did this despite the felony convictions and an obviously unfriendly/hostile media. He was outspent 2-to-1 with significant negative coverage and he made gains across nearly all voter groups, some at historic levels (e.g., Latino and Black voters).
Hell, there was a poll in mid-November that had 71% of voters agreeing he has a mandate, with 50% calling it "strong". You may find a link ---> here, if you don't believe me.
Fact matter, right? Or do mine just hurt your narrative? (I'd recommend giving up vs. trying harder, fwiw. Your argument is a losing one)
LMAO. I know you have to have your spin so you can sleep at night. Your bell cow is AOC and the like. Really? He won every single swing state. Every single one. Mandate.
Sorry, I’m getting winded chasing the goal posts you keep moving.
I’ll address the only quote you provided that I care about.
The quote from Harris was not “on violent protests”. I hope that’s not an intentional mischaracterization.
That’s a pull quote from her interview with Steven Colbert in June, 2020 and was regarding the non-violent protests that made up 90% of the protests happening in response to the George Floyd case. At no point during that appearance did she praise or make excuses for violence or looting.
In fact, in August 2020, following the unrest in Kenosha, Wisconsin (after the police shooting of Jacob Blake), Harris stated:
“We should not confuse them [peaceful protesters] with those looting and committing acts of violence, including the shooter who was arrested for murder. And make no mistake, we will not let these vigilantes and extremists derail the path to justice.”
Have anything similar from Trump over the last four years, much less since he took office a second time?
The rest of your quotes, don’t care. I didn’t vote for them and wouldn’t support them for local office, much less President.
I’m frankly disappointed that you would attempt to dismiss the clip of Trump, sitting at the resolute desk, praising and honoring hundreds of convicted felons and making excuses for their actions after pardoning them, just because Rupar posted it. Satan himself could have posted it, it’s still a very clear statement from our current POTUS. Unless you are claiming it isn’t a real clip.
Maybe this will work better for you? This is POTUS, on AF1. Good to know that the people convicted of felony assault on the police were the true victims that day.
Decorum in the Capitol. Decorum during an important political event. Yes, the recent history and statements from the guy at the podium Tuesday during the Dems very weak attempts at protest are highly relevant, and bemoaning the loss of decorum as a Trump voter is hypocrisy.
Land doesn’t vote and he still didn’t break 50%. It was the closest popular vote win since Nixon.LMAO. I know you have to have your spin so you can sleep at night. Your bell cow is AOC and the like. Really? He won every single swing state. Every single one. Mandate.
You may not be good with math, but in no world is less than 50% a mandate.
The only person moving a goal post is you. I was talking about behavior by politicians, clearly. It was your choice to attempt to change the discussion away from that to a topic you're more comfortable with (and not one you're clearly hypocritical on, as evidenced by your quote I provided)
This thread is not a J6 debate, despite your desire to make it one. Voters didn't care, because it's an overblown media story designed to keep Trump out of the White House. It failed. You should find a way to let it go, to.
EDIT: I should be clear that I'm not defending any behavior on January 6th. My comments on the narrative are part of a much longer discussion.
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No, but dead people do
He was the first Republican to win the Popular vote since '04, with an exponential increase in third party candidate popularity and on ballots since that time. Being dismissive of his win is exactly what I hope Democrats continue to do...it's a clear demonstration of not learning the lesson.
I am excellent with math. A guru actually. Funny how Clinton was running around screaming "mandate" and didnt break 50%. It was the largest political turnaround in American History. Mandate. Its actually not 'math'. Its understanding the growth of the Trump reach, his coalition spread significantly, and that should scare you, as a liberal democrat.
Less than $50,000 per year. Trump won by 1% after Biden won by 10%
$50,000 - $100,000 income. Trump won by 2% after Biden won by 15%
Trump support among black voters was 12% higher than it was against Biden
Trump support among women went up 2%
Trump support among hispanic voters went up 10%
No, no no. You don't understand. The only relevant number is 1/6....which coincidentally equals less than 17%, which also happens to be the Democrat's chances of winning the next election if they continue on their current course of no message beyond "Trump is literally Hitler".
So you are morally offended that the Dems verbally disrupted the State of the Union, but voted for the guy whose angry mob (and the pardons and revisionist lies prove they were his mob) physically attacked the Capitol and chased the congressmen out of the Senate Chamber to prevent them from certifying the election that Trump still hasn’t acknowledged he lost. And they injured 130 police officers while doing it.
Yes, it’s relevant and yes, you are being a hypocrite.
There is a lot of space between “being dismissive” and agreeing with the idea that Trump has a mandate.No, but dead people do
He was the first Republican to win the Popular vote since '04, with an exponential increase in third party candidate popularity and on ballots since that time. Being dismissive of his win is exactly what I hope Democrats continue to do...it's a clear demonstration of not learning the lesson.
Trump won less than 50% of the vote, the GOP has a narrow majority in the Senate and the most narrow majority of either party in the House since 1931-33.
That’s not a mandate, not mathematically and not historically.
I’m glad that Trump is acting like he has mandate. He’s overreaching and the courts, the markets and polling that is trending very negatively are punishing him for it.
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