You can not trust Russia

[LrgK9]

You can not trust Russia.

Afgantsy Redux: How Russian military intelligence used the Taliban to bleed U.S. forces…

Link:

https://theins.press/en/politics/277723

 

[Booneville Dawg]

If you consider what we have given Ukraine and the number of Russians that have been killed, that comes out to almost $250,000 per kill

 

[TivoliDawg]

You can not trust Russia.

Afgantsy Redux: How Russian military intelligence used the Taliban to bleed U.S. forces…

Link:

https://theins.press/en/politics/277723

Yeah, it’s clear there are. A lot of people on this board who never had to hide under their desks during the Cuban missile crisis.

Sigh.

The only thing new in this world is the history you don’t know.

 

[ugaboz]

thank god biden is gone

 

[Dirty Hairy Dawg]

Not a defense of Russia but we did similar during their excursion into Afghanistan as well.

 

[Southern_brand]

I am not a Russian sympathizer. But we have done and would do just about everything Russia has done recently. Imagine if we were in Russia’s shoes and a border country tried to join an adversarial organization. Let’s say Mexico or Canada wanted to join the newly created USSR. You think we would just let that happen? lol Yeah, ok. I’d bet money we would invade Mexico just like Russia invaded Ukraine.

 

[Georgia Knight]

I am not a Russian sympathizer. But we have done and would do just about everything Russia has done recently. Imagine if we were in Russia’s shoes and a border country tried to join an adversarial organization. Let’s say Mexico or Canada wanted to join the newly created USSR. You think we would just let that happen? lol Yeah, ok. I’d bet money we would invade Mexico just like Russia invaded Ukraine.

Russia's motivations with Ukraine was not simply about NATO.

 

[Georgia Knight]

No deal with Russia should be based on "trust", but national self interest.

 

[BDawg64]

I am not a Russian sympathizer. But we have done and would do just about everything Russia has done recently. Imagine if we were in Russia’s shoes and a border country tried to join an adversarial organization. Let’s say Mexico or Canada wanted to join the newly created USSR. You think we would just let that happen? lol Yeah, ok. I’d bet money we would invade Mexico just like Russia invaded Ukraine.

Your statements are absolutely sympathizing with Russia. Are you seriously trying to justify Russia invading a sovereign nation? Is it your opinion that Ukraine had it coming?

 

[atlanta cock#]

You can not trust Russia.

Afgantsy Redux: How Russian military intelligence used the Taliban to bleed U.S. forces…

Link:

https://theins.press/en/politics/277723

Ukraine is full of Nazis. If they could both lose, I'd be thrilled.

 

[The Original SLC Dawg]

Trust, but verify.

 

[brimur]

Ukraine is full of Nazis. If they could both lose, I'd be thrilled.

Wow, just cut and paste from RT eh?

 

[Georgia Knight]

Ukraine is full of Nazis. If they could both lose, I'd be thrthrilled.

My hot take is that the Ukrainian "Nazis" are the good guys in the conflict - they are the true Ukrainian nationalists.

That's preferable, in my view, to the Russians that want to eradicate Ukrainian culture and Ukrainian leadership that wants to sell out the country to the West.

It's obviously stupid to use Nazi iconography, but that is a direct result of the realities of anti-Soviet history. It's not as if the Azov Battalion is interested in Jewish genocide (though you wouldn't want to be Russian in a Nationalist Ukraine.)

 

[TivoliDawg]

I am not a Russian sympathizer. But we have done and would do just about everything Russia has done recently. Imagine if we were in Russia’s shoes and a border country tried to join an adversarial organization. Let’s say Mexico or Canada wanted to join the newly created USSR. You think we would just let that happen? lol Yeah, ok. I’d bet money we would invade Mexico just like Russia invaded Ukraine.

Wow. To know this little about both history and current events is astonishing. Actually par for thr course around here though.

 

[TivoliDawg]

Ukraine is full of Nazis. If they could both lose, I'd be thrilled.

Ukraine is full of Nazis? WTF. The crazy amount of Russian propaganda spread on here is insane. They are clearly winning hearts and mind of our own people. Pathetic.

Is America full of Nazis? Is that a true statement? Because there are certainly more here than Ukraine. Maybe Russia should invade us too.

 

[Georgia Knight]

Ukraine is full of Nazis? WTF. The crazy amount of Russian propaganda speared on here is insane. They are clearly winning hearts and mind of our own people. Pathetic.

Is America full of Nazis? Is that a true statement? Because there are certainly more here than Ukraine. Maybe Russia should invade us too.

For reasons I shared above, the topic is more nuanced than many would like - but the Ukraine "Nazi" issue is very different than American History X skinhead larpers.

The reality is that prominent Ukranian nationalist militias did lean into Nazi aesthetics and a very much motivated by ethnonationalist views. They played a role in pre-invasion violence against ethnic Russians in the Donbas that is part of the justification for the invasion (of course this claim is undermined by the fact that Moscow didn't simply send armed forces into that region, but tried to take Kyiv and overthrow the government.)

The Azov Battalion was a essential force for Ukraine, but also complicated relationships as they aren't particularly popular with allies.

So the claim isn't simply Russian propaganda, it is a real factor of the conflict.

 

[willdup]

I am not a Russian sympathizer. But we have done and would do just about everything Russia has done recently. Imagine if we were in Russia’s shoes and a border country tried to join an adversarial organization. Let’s say Mexico or Canada wanted to join the newly created USSR. You think we would just let that happen? lol Yeah, ok. I’d bet money we would invade Mexico just like Russia invaded Ukraine.

That is such an irredeemable load of crap that it’s difficult to formulate a response.

Ukraine is no more responsible for the invasion by Russian than they are responsible for the multitude of documented, heinous war crimes committed from day one to today by Russian forces.

But please do continue with your argument that Putin and Russia are no different than the US. The high irony is that the man that you support, with his expansionist talk regarding Canada, Greenland and Panama, is the one man who can make your comparison between the US and Russia more true than it’s ever been.

 

[Southern_brand]

That is such an irredeemable load of crap that it’s difficult to formulate a response.

Ukraine is no more responsible for the invasion by Russian than they are responsible for the multitude of documented, heinous war crimes committed from day one to today by Russian forces.

But please do continue with your argument that Putin and Russia are no different than the US. The high irony is that the man that you support, with his expansionist talk regarding Canada, Greenland and Panama, is the one man who can make your comparison between the US and Russia more true than it’s ever been.

You’re naive if you think I’m wrong.